Proof that God exists

[BADecker]

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If you don't believe what God says, you will have to read and think to figure it out. If you believe what God said, His Spirit will reveal it to you.

And if you don't?  You are just too stupid to understand God's word, right?

Seriously, the book was written by bronze age cave dwellers how could you expect to receive any wisdom or knowledge from them?

It is a serious question.

Seriously, mankind has only devolved since the time of bronze age cave dwellers. What they said and wrote were far more practical and beneficial for people than what is written today.

And I'm sure you don't use a car, and if you do you hate it. Or electricity. And let's not forget the internet. You hate them all don't you?

If mankind had not devolved so much, the necessity for driving and using electricity would not present itself. While these things are fun, they are being used by smart people to rule over you.

[mrflibblehat]

So I should either walk to work or move with a tent inside the company's yard and be evolved by doing this, of course?

[Moloch]

There are many people who read and understand Hebrew

Hebrew is probably the easiest language to learn on the planet... If you can't be bothered to learn a little Hebrew... don't pretend you know the Hebrew Bible (the origins or your own religion)

If you cannot read it yourself, then you are putting your faith in other people to interpret for you, not God

Exactly why I wouldn't put my faith in your understanding of the Bible.

I certainly wouldn't put my faith in your understanding of the bible...

You just said that God lives in everyone, whether they like it or not...

What about that part where you must invite Jesus into your heart for God to live inside you?

For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.

But to all who did receive him, who believed in his name, the gave the right to become children of God

even the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees him nor knows him. You know him, for he dwells with you and will be in you.

[BADecker]

I did say that when multiple tests offer the same results everytime, did I not?
God's been missing the last 2000 years. We have to think for ourselves.

I did say that when multiple tests offer the same results everytime, did I not?
God's been missing the last 2000 years. We have to think for ourselves.

Since the culmination of the things that Jesus did means that mankind is now being absorbed into Godness, God lives in all people, but especially in those who believe Him. So it is that when you talk to me, it is like talking to God.

When you deny God in yourself, you are dooming yourself to destruction the only way that a God can.

Why were you pretending you know much about science?  You're simply delusional.  If you think God is inside you and talking to you is like talking to God then you have to really check your health.  I think you might be in danger of completely losing your senses.

Check your local mental hospital, I'm sure you'll find at least one Napoleon, Jesus, Anti-Christ or Alien.  

Why do you think that I was or am pretending to know a lot about science? Since you think this, either you know little about science, or the things that I said must have made a big impression on you scientifically.

You really need to reevaluate what you are talking about, before you go off the deep end.

[BADecker]

There are many people who read and understand Hebrew

Hebrew is probably the easiest language to learn on the planet... If you can't be bothered to learn a little Hebrew... don't pretend you know the Hebrew Bible (the origins or your own religion)

If you cannot read it yourself, then you are putting your faith in other people to interpret for you, not God

Exactly why I wouldn't put my faith in your understanding of the Bible.

I certainly wouldn't put my faith in your understanding of the bible...

You just said that God lives in everyone, whether they like it or not...

What about that part where you must invite Jesus into your heart for God to live inside you?

For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.

But to all who did receive him, who believed in his name, the gave the right to become children of God

even the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees him nor knows him. You know him, for he dwells with you and will be in you.

Jesus has been in your heart since the time you were conceived. Can't help it if you are not aware of it, or that you can't figure out what those passages you refer to mean.

[mrflibblehat]

So you admit you don't know about science. Even so you tell us about cause and effect and other things. And when the guy before said that's he's an engineering graduate from a top university or the other guy that said he graduated theology, they're all stupid? Which is it man? Make up your mind.

[BADecker]

So I should either walk to work or move with a tent inside the company's yard and be evolved by doing this, of course?

You ask me this? Shouldn't you evaluate this on your own, according to the things that you desire, and at least consult the company about if they will let you do this?

Besides, if you do, do something like this, it will not make you less devolved. It might only indicate that you are way more devolved than anybody had thought.

[ekoice]

its difficult to say if God exists or not but logically every thng is manufactured prior to come into existense so this universe must be created by some one named God

[BADecker]

So you admit you don't know about science. Even so you tell us about cause and effect and other things. And when the guy before said that's he's an engineering graduate from a top university or the other guy that said he graduated theology, they're all stupid? Which is it man? Make up your mind.

Since you haven't indicated who you are talking to, perhaps it is af_newbie.

[Moloch]

So I came across this passage, and I was wondering if BADecker could interpret...

29 The jailer called for lights, rushed in and fell trembling before Paul and Silas.
30 He then brought them out and asked, “Sirs, what must I do to be saved?”
31 They replied, “Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved—you and your household.”

Is this saying that if I believe in Jesus, my entire family is saved?

I recall other parts of the bible stating that salvation was a personal matter, and that my personal faith could not save my family, only they can save themselves?

Seems like a contradiction here... and being that salvation through Jesus is the core of Christianity, you'd think they would be consistent throughout the bible, right?

[mrflibblehat]

So I should either walk to work or move with a tent inside the company's yard and be evolved by doing this, of course?

You ask me this? Shouldn't you evaluate this on your own, according to the things that you desire, and at least consult the company about if they will let you do this?

Besides, if you do, do something like this, it will not make you less devolved. It might only indicate that you are way more devolved than anybody had thought.

Still, you haven't answered my question. Will I be more evolved if I stop using my car or not? Enlighten me, oh great one, how to be more evolved, just like the cave people?

[BADecker]

So I came across this passage, and I was wondering if BADecker could interpret...

29 The jailer called for lights, rushed in and fell trembling before Paul and Silas.
30 He then brought them out and asked, “Sirs, what must I do to be saved?”
31 They replied, “Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved—you and your household.”

Is this saying that if I believe in Jesus, my entire family is saved?

I recall other parts of the bible stating that salvation was a personal matter, and that my personal faith could not save my family, only they can save themselves?

Seems like a contradiction here... and being that salvation through Jesus is the core of Christianity, you'd think they would be consistent throughout the bible, right?

As long as you are searching for contradictions, you will never see much of anything else in anything.

[Moloch]

There are many people who read and understand Hebrew

Hebrew is probably the easiest language to learn on the planet... If you can't be bothered to learn a little Hebrew... don't pretend you know the Hebrew Bible (the origins or your own religion)

If you cannot read it yourself, then you are putting your faith in other people to interpret for you, not God

Exactly why I wouldn't put my faith in your understanding of the Bible.

I certainly wouldn't put my faith in your understanding of the bible...

You just said that God lives in everyone, whether they like it or not...

What about that part where you must invite Jesus into your heart for God to live inside you?

For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.

But to all who did receive him, who believed in his name, the gave the right to become children of God

even the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees him nor knows him. You know him, for he dwells with you and will be in you.

Jesus has been in your heart since the time you were conceived. Can't help it if you are not aware of it, or that you can't figure out what those passages you refer to mean.

Really?  I've been to churches of several different Christian denominations, and I've never heard anyone claim that before...  It's always, "You must invite Jesus into your heart" (exactly like it says in the bible)

Where do you get that from?  Book, chapter, verse?

[Moloch]

So I came across this passage, and I was wondering if BADecker could interpret...

29 The jailer called for lights, rushed in and fell trembling before Paul and Silas.
30 He then brought them out and asked, “Sirs, what must I do to be saved?”
31 They replied, “Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved—you and your household.”

Is this saying that if I believe in Jesus, my entire family is saved?

I recall other parts of the bible stating that salvation was a personal matter, and that my personal faith could not save my family, only they can save themselves?

Seems like a contradiction here... and being that salvation through Jesus is the core of Christianity, you'd think they would be consistent throughout the bible, right?

As long as you are searching for contradictions, you will never see much of anything else in anything.

Translation:
Fuck if I know

[BADecker]

So I should either walk to work or move with a tent inside the company's yard and be evolved by doing this, of course?

You ask me this? Shouldn't you evaluate this on your own, according to the things that you desire, and at least consult the company about if they will let you do this?

Besides, if you do, do something like this, it will not make you less devolved. It might only indicate that you are way more devolved than anybody had thought.

Still, you haven't answered my question. Will I be more evolved if I stop using my car or not? Enlighten me, oh great one, how to be more evolved, just like the cave people?

If you are not intelligent enough to use your own discretion about this, consult one of the residents of your local funny farm.

 

[BADecker]

So I came across this passage, and I was wondering if BADecker could interpret...

29 The jailer called for lights, rushed in and fell trembling before Paul and Silas.
30 He then brought them out and asked, “Sirs, what must I do to be saved?”
31 They replied, “Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved—you and your household.”

Is this saying that if I believe in Jesus, my entire family is saved?

I recall other parts of the bible stating that salvation was a personal matter, and that my personal faith could not save my family, only they can save themselves?

Seems like a contradiction here... and being that salvation through Jesus is the core of Christianity, you'd think they would be consistent throughout the bible, right?

As long as you are searching for contradictions, you will never see much of anything else in anything.

Translation:
Fuck if I know

Well, obviously you don't know. If you had, you wouldn't have consulted me, who you have shown over and over that you don't believe anyway. This also shows your inability to rationally calculate much of anything.

[mrflibblehat]

So I should either walk to work or move with a tent inside the company's yard and be evolved by doing this, of course?

You ask me this? Shouldn't you evaluate this on your own, according to the things that you desire, and at least consult the company about if they will let you do this?

Besides, if you do, do something like this, it will not make you less devolved. It might only indicate that you are way more devolved than anybody had thought.

Still, you haven't answered my question. Will I be more evolved if I stop using my car or not? Enlighten me, oh great one, how to be more evolved, just like the cave people?

If you are not intelligent enough to use your own discretion about this, consult one of the residents of your local funny farm.

 

I'll let Moloch to answer for me with his previous post:

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Translation:
Fuck if I know
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[af_newbie]

So I should either walk to work or move with a tent inside the company's yard and be evolved by doing this, of course?

You ask me this? Shouldn't you evaluate this on your own, according to the things that you desire, and at least consult the company about if they will let you do this?

Besides, if you do, do something like this, it will not make you less devolved. It might only indicate that you are way more devolved than anybody had thought.

Still, you haven't answered my question. Will I be more evolved if I stop using my car or not? Enlighten me, oh great one, how to be more evolved, just like the cave people?

The guy does not have any proofs.  His knowledge of science and bible is very superficial.  He represents an average Christian.

He just talked himself into believing in "Lord Jesus Christ", whatever that means.  It was probably inspired by church ceremonies, cool paintings in the church etc.
Music, beautiful paintings, some nice passages in the Bible gave him enough to create this hallucination.

I'm sure he feels and sees Jesus in everything.  The nonsense he is spouting is a combination of his own imagination and what he heard from other people in his church.
When confronted on his bullshit, he refuses to debate, diverts attention to some minor detail in Bible or science and asserts he is right and everybody is wrong.

[mrflibblehat]

The moment people clearly and logically argue that you're wrong you start insulting them. That's not nice mr. christian dude.

[Moloch]

So I should either walk to work or move with a tent inside the company's yard and be evolved by doing this, of course?

You ask me this? Shouldn't you evaluate this on your own, according to the things that you desire, and at least consult the company about if they will let you do this?

Besides, if you do, do something like this, it will not make you less devolved. It might only indicate that you are way more devolved than anybody had thought.

Still, you haven't answered my question. Will I be more evolved if I stop using my car or not? Enlighten me, oh great one, how to be more evolved, just like the cave people?

If you are not intelligent enough to use your own discretion about this, consult one of the residents of your local funny farm.

Why do you deny the existence of Allah, but insist that Yahweh is the real God?

Why are you an Atheist with respect to Zeus, Odin, Vishnu, Hades, Thor, Waheguru, Aphrodite, Moloch, Thoth, Horus, Ra, and Allah... but not Yahweh?

You are an Atheist with respect to 3000+ deities!

Why did you choose to believe in Yahweh, rather than the other 3000+ gods available?