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February 25, 2016, 08:39:15 PM
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Ok, you choose who will you follow.

I have a feeling that someone reprogrammed your gut, instinct and intuition if you describe it as "that thing". Is it visible? What is it? How can i see it?

Your statement is 100% debunking the atheist dogma, please recheck here your beliefs  Cheesy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRq6qKp78W8




I'm not a sheep to need to follow anyone. I learn and do my own thing. No need to be a follower. You can live without.

I'm sorry to disappoint you, but you are led, and i can prove that to you.

Where is the source of your learning then, that as you say you "do your own thing".

Now think.

Do you make decisions in life? Of course. And that decisions are according to ideologies and or philosophies you follow.

How do you learn? Through ideologies and or philosophies you follow.  Maybe you even created your own idea. Now you just need followers to spread it and that idea will become an ideology that many will follow. That's how things work.

Make sense that you do not live out of thin air.  Real life is simple math.
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February 25, 2016, 08:45:39 PM
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Ok, you choose who will you follow.

I have a feeling that someone reprogrammed your gut, instinct and intuition if you describe it as "that thing". Is it visible? What is it? How can i see it?

Your statement is 100% debunking the atheist dogma, please recheck here your beliefs  Cheesy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRq6qKp78W8




That is some twisted logic.  The guy is basically saying if the world follows the laws of nature you have no reason to think about laws of nature.

He is an imbecile.  We use our brains to learn more about nature, how it works and why?  If you stop thinking and accept spoon fed religious bronze age nonsense you become an intellectual zombie.  Unable to think critically.

Science (and by extension, Atheism) will be more widely accepted because it represents progress,  whether you like it or not.  Pray to God all you want, nothing will change the fact that evolution cannot be stopped.

Your religious dogma is ridiculous, once people realize they have been fleeced, game is over for you crooks.






You even do not know basic definition or equation of atheism. Let me present it to you. Atheism=humanistic religion.

First of all, atheism is in rapid decline. Even Richard Dawkins is now starting to believe in aliens. It has nothing to do with REAL science and LOGOS the ultimate LOGIC.

The atheist's worldview is closer to fairy tales and fables than science. Making Grimm brothers real amateurs.  Grin

My dogma which in fact it is not mine is accurate and correct so you can grasp it and i can assure you that it will be PROFITABLE to you...well i believe.
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February 25, 2016, 09:55:13 PM
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When you take your last breath here on earth, you'll believe in God for sure ...

Your assertion is based on what?  Have you died and came back?  Has anyone died, say for a week and came back to tell us that God exist?  Post a link, I'd love to send my fellow atheists to investigate.

... If you can not define what exactly God is, then how can you say that God does not exist?

Why would I want to define something that has no evidence in reality.  I'm not in the business of writing Harry Potter's novels.

If you believe in God, you define it and provide evidence of its existence.  I can guarantee you'll win a Nobel Price and will be rich beyond your dreams if you provide a testable, scientific proof that supernatural beings exist.  Anything, ghosts, angels, devil, god, tooth fairies etc...

It just does not make sense to prove that something does not exist if that something does not exist.  It does not exist because there is no proof of it's existence.   What else is there to prove?

It is childish.  It is like asking someone to prove that Santa Claus does not exist.  It is a made up story like all religions.  Grow up people.

As we explore the world and discover how it actually works, the space for religion and superstition gets smaller and smaller...

Can you prove that he doesn't exist?  What is at the center of every galaxy?  When did we discover this?  How much do we actually know about black holes?  Time is relative, but how?  So, the universe with it's immense order and perfection was created by chance?  There will never be physical proof that god exists until the savior comes again or until you die.  Then you will be able to see with your own eyes how things really are.  If physical proof exists of God then there is no need to believe or have faith in Him, hence the lack of physical proof.

Cay you prove that He does exist?

The earth for example.  If the earth were a just little bit closer or farther then it couldn't sustain life like it does.  It's gravity is perfect, you aren't crushed and you don't fly off because its spinning so fast.  I suppose that it was pure luck that it ended up that way?  The entire universe is so perfectly ordered, I suppose that is pure chance as well.  The human body has organs and glands that we don't even know what they do.
But what you want is a picture of God or His DNA or something like that.  Well, that isn't going to happen like I said previously, then faith wouldn't be required.

Yeah, why have something measurable when you can have faith.

Yes, exactly that. Faith is the portal to enter the matrix of God. Without faith forget it. No evidence will be no good for you.

The real question here is not in providing the proof, it is the condition of a heart. Do you want to hear words to fit your agenda, or ultimate logic?

Atheists are walking, living contradictions. All the time they will appeal to logic and on the same side they will deny the ULTIMATE one, LOGOS. This is simple called madness or insanity if you like.

A simple equation: You and I are a creature, so we have been created, thus we have a Creator. So even you atheists, the Creator deniers are proof that Creator exist.   Wink

What proof do you want from a spritual God?  For example, I'm living proof. Yes, you don't know me, so you will have to do your own research as i did. Seek and you will find. The comprehension of Truth is even closer than your own breath.

Also atheists have very bad memory, so in time to time refreshing is needed. Refreshing the memory of top1 atheist  Grin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbNpi2d5oEs

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Are you as mad as the guy in the video Cheesy WHAT A LOAD OF SHIT.
You can see the foot prints have been carved..raised footprints Cheesy
Also i hope you know in the past they would make footprints in the ground to scare other natives from invading there tribes. They would put massive footprints to make people think they must be huge people and scare them away.
BUT the footprint next to the dinosaur is fake done by 20th century man or woman FACT

KEEP TRYING THO  Cheesy
Oh we have already had the LONDON HAMMER so try find something else..

THAT GUY IS A NUT CASE IN THE VIDEO just looking at him says it all Grin
So if you find god give us a shout please.

I have stepped on wet concrete many a time and sand on the beach.never once a raised carved footprint
It would have to be someone from TEXAS
London hammer TEXAS
YOU TEXAN'S ARE DUMB AS SHIT Cheesy Not all but most of you really are thick as shit Cheesy
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February 25, 2016, 11:13:34 PM
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Thank you, I'm aware of what atheism is.
Problem is when nothing is done to prevent that lacking. If my car lacks fuel i will refuel it. If i don't do that, car will become useless. The same is with atheism. You need to refuel your lack with LOGOS.  Ignorance of LOGOS is darkness. Comprehension of LOGOS is light.

Become enlightened, it will be for your profit, not mine, but I will speak to anyone who will listen and if you do not want to you need not to reply, thanks.

All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness.

Atheism has no power to do that for you.
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February 26, 2016, 12:05:41 AM
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Not any of these links you posted are mine, so your claims about so called "my scam" are obsolete. And why are you afraid of "my scam"-by your definition, if atheism is accurate and correct.

I see you like watching youtube videos, so here is a link specially for you:

Is Religion Intellectually Dangerous? Featuring Dr. John Lennox at the University of Toronto https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhrxwb2bfSg





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February 26, 2016, 12:14:47 AM
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Profit by becoming enlightened? Has religion become so desperate?

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February 26, 2016, 12:45:37 AM
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Problem is when nothing is done to prevent that lacking. If my car lacks fuel i will refuel it. If i don't do that, car will become useless. The same is with atheism. You need to refuel your lack with LOGOS.  Ignorance of LOGOS is darkness. Comprehension of LOGOS is light.

1) I lack nothing

B) I don't play with LEGOS

iii) When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child; but when I became a man, I put away childish things
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February 26, 2016, 12:47:07 AM
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Thank you, I'm aware of what atheism is.
Problem is when nothing is done to prevent that lacking. If my car lacks fuel i will refuel it. If i don't do that, car will become useless. The same is with atheism. You need to refuel your lack with LOGOS.  Ignorance of LOGOS is darkness. Comprehension of LOGOS is light.

Become enlightened, it will be for your profit, not mine, but I will speak to anyone who will listen and if you do not want to you need not to reply, thanks.

All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness.

Atheism has no power to do that for you.

What are these LOGS you speak of?

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Thank you, I'm aware of what atheism is.
Problem is when nothing is done to prevent that lacking. If my car lacks fuel i will refuel it. If i don't do that, car will become useless. The same is with atheism. You need to refuel your lack with LOGOS.  Ignorance of LOGOS is darkness. Comprehension of LOGOS is light.

Become enlightened, it will be for your profit, not mine, but I will speak to anyone who will listen and if you do not want to you need not to reply, thanks.

All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness.

Atheism has no power to do that for you.

What are these LOGS you speak of?

Whatever it is, it certainly isn't logic.

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February 26, 2016, 02:03:05 AM
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Thank you, I'm aware of what atheism is.
Problem is when nothing is done to prevent that lacking. If my car lacks fuel i will refuel it. If i don't do that, car will become useless. The same is with atheism. You need to refuel your lack with LOGOS.  Ignorance of LOGOS is darkness. Comprehension of LOGOS is light.

Become enlightened, it will be for your profit, not mine, but I will speak to anyone who will listen and if you do not want to you need not to reply, thanks.

All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness.

Atheism has no power to do that for you.

What are these LOGS you speak of?

Whatever it is, it certainly sin't logic.

You know, this reminds me of a joke that fits the context:
How do Chinese parents name a child? They throw a can on the stairs. Ding Dong Bing.

(Disclaimer: This is not meant to offend the Chinese people)

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February 26, 2016, 02:26:50 AM
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Not any of these links you posted are mine, so your claims about so called "my scam" are obsolete. And why are you afraid of "my scam"-by your definition, if atheism is accurate and correct.

I see you like watching youtube videos, so here is a link specially for you:

Is Religion Intellectually Dangerous? Featuring Dr. John Lennox at the University of Toronto https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhrxwb2bfSg


Religion is scam, you are supporter of this scam.

Religion has absolutely nothing to do with science. 

John Lennox got his ass handed to him by Lawrence Krauss.  The guy makes a bunch of assumptions based on his religious beliefs.
He sounds like BADecker.  He is not a scientist.  More like a philosopher.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKt2NPbTHM0




Perfectly agree. My theology teachers sometimes were not pleased with me asking uncomfortable questions in class about differences found in the Bible and sometimes used to fail me at exams and because since theology is not a science they would interpret my answers in different ways and I couldn't do anything about it.

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February 26, 2016, 03:54:31 AM
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can you see the air you breath? no. can you feel it? do you believe its there?  yes. SPAM
thats it. similar thing is with god..SPAM i am not justifyimg a sinle religions god, because I don't want a single religion to be targeted...
SPAM

Wow - that was hyper spammy bud. You're not doing a good job representing the religious people.

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February 26, 2016, 03:56:31 AM
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Not any of these links you posted are mine, so your claims about so called "my scam" are obsolete.<snip>


Obsolete? So you admit that you were previously a scammer?

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February 26, 2016, 09:09:53 AM
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Not any of these links you posted are mine, so your claims about so called "my scam" are obsolete.<snip>


Obsolete? So you admit that you were previously a scammer?

Maybe he was a scammer. But you show by your posts that you are nothing less than a deceptive, lying troll.

Cool

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February 26, 2016, 10:21:45 AM
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Not any of these links you posted are mine, so your claims about so called "my scam" are obsolete. And why are you afraid of "my scam"-by your definition, if atheism is accurate and correct.

I see you like watching youtube videos, so here is a link specially for you:

Is Religion Intellectually Dangerous? Featuring Dr. John Lennox at the University of Toronto https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhrxwb2bfSg


Religion is scam, you are supporter of this scam.

Religion has absolutely nothing to do with science. 

John Lennox got his ass handed to him by Lawrence Krauss.  The guy makes a bunch of assumptions based on his religious beliefs.
He sounds like BADecker.  He is not a scientist.  More like a philosopher.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKt2NPbTHM0




Wow you're a bit harsh dude ^^

Religion is not exactly a scam, it's more like  a strange bet without any proof.
But calling every religious scammer is a bit extreme xD
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February 26, 2016, 11:38:16 AM
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Not any of these links you posted are mine, so your claims about so called "my scam" are obsolete.<snip>


Obsolete? So you admit that you were previously a scammer?

Maybe he was a scammer. But you show by your posts that you are nothing less than a deceptive, lying troll.

Cool

No deception. I asked a question. You attacked. It's just what you do. And you're attacking because you have, well, nothing.

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February 26, 2016, 11:51:36 AM
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Not any of these links you posted are mine, so your claims about so called "my scam" are obsolete. And why are you afraid of "my scam"-by your definition, if atheism is accurate and correct.

I see you like watching youtube videos, so here is a link specially for you:

Is Religion Intellectually Dangerous? Featuring Dr. John Lennox at the University of Toronto https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhrxwb2bfSg


Religion is scam, you are supporter of this scam.

Religion has absolutely nothing to do with science. 

John Lennox got his ass handed to him by Lawrence Krauss.  The guy makes a bunch of assumptions based on his religious beliefs.
He sounds like BADecker.  He is not a scientist.  More like a philosopher.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKt2NPbTHM0




Wow you're a bit harsh dude ^^

Religion is not exactly a scam, it's more like  a strange bet without any proof.
But calling every religious scammer is a bit extreme xD

No one's saying anything but as log as there is no proof, you know... It isn't provable. Kinda pointless to say more.

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February 26, 2016, 12:34:21 PM
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Not any of these links you posted are mine, so your claims about so called "my scam" are obsolete.<snip>


Obsolete? So you admit that you were previously a scammer?

Maybe he was a scammer. But you show by your posts that you are nothing less than a deceptive, lying troll.

Cool

No deception. I asked a question. You attacked. It's just what you do. And you're attacking because you have, well, nothing.

You're trying to actually think through actual logic in a religious debate. hence you're a deceptive troll ^^
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February 26, 2016, 12:54:10 PM
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Not any of these links you posted are mine, so your claims about so called "my scam" are obsolete. And why are you afraid of "my scam"-by your definition, if atheism is accurate and correct.

I see you like watching youtube videos, so here is a link specially for you:

Is Religion Intellectually Dangerous? Featuring Dr. John Lennox at the University of Toronto https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhrxwb2bfSg


Religion is scam, you are supporter of this scam.

Religion has absolutely nothing to do with science. 

John Lennox got his ass handed to him by Lawrence Krauss.  The guy makes a bunch of assumptions based on his religious beliefs.
He sounds like BADecker.  He is not a scientist.  More like a philosopher.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKt2NPbTHM0




Wow you're a bit harsh dude ^^

Religion is not exactly a scam, it's more like  a strange bet without any proof.
But calling every religious scammer is a bit extreme xD

Listen, they are scamming people out of their money.  Promising them something that does not exist.
The best scammers believe in their scam.

Take a look at my other thread were I posted links to show how they scam people.  Documentaries were done
by major news networks.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1367070.0

Despite the fact it is an obvious scam, people still fall for it.  Just like Nigerian scam, only institutionalized and legal.


 

Damn yeah sorry I forgot you're talking about America the country of "free entreprise" where it's allowed to actually sell tickets to heaven xD

Sorry I thought you were talking in more general way, about civilized countries for example. Where such things are forbidden for rather obvious reasons...
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February 26, 2016, 05:20:49 PM
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There are amongst us a group of people who believe that while there is no proof that God exists, there also is no proof that He doesn't exist.
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Which god?  But even ignoring that fact.

The evidence for non-existence is circumstantial as there is no physical evidence of his/her/it existence.  But here is the circumstantial evidence:

- no physical evidence
- 'God' of different cultures, 'revealed' himself/herself/itself at various periods in distant past to a few individuals spoke fluent English, Arabic, Aramaic or Hebrew.  The wisdom he provided does not meet the very basic standard of human morality or social justice of today.  If he wanted to guide men and women, he would interact with the physical realm, update his/her holy books etc.
- this imaginary god supposedly created world with all the universes about 13.8 billion of years ago.  Then waited about 9 billion years to create Earth in this particular universe, and another 4.5 billion to create humans in his own image.  His works ethic are, well, questionable.  Why the wait?
- why did he created imperfect human body: why we have jaw that does not fit all the teeth, our immune system is in constant war with viruses and bacteria?  He is either lazy or is constantly fighting diseases himself, viruses/bacteria which he himself created?  I hope he has a good health plan.

Now more specific points about Christianity:
- Jesus of Nazareth is a myth.  Many historians already debunked this myth.  youtube Richard Carrier  
- nobody demonstrated virgin birth since 'birth of Christ', physically impossible to conceive without human sperm penetrating egg wall. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcDhf2was8w  But people who wrote the story did not know that.
- why would god want to be killed to forgive human sins, he could have just forgive them and be done with it. Again, the novelist who wrote the story did not think this through.  
- why he wants to torture people who use their brain he/she himself/herself gave them in the first place.  He behaves very ungodly, very human like.  Perhaps because he is an imaginary construct devised by the 1st century publicist.
- water cannot be turned into wine, the cracker you eat during mass does not turn into flesh of Christ, nobody can walk on water.  All these claims are false, so the whole premise is false.

And Islam:
- horses don't fly, never did, never will
- morality provided by this god is on par with Christian or Jewish god, from which the myth has been derived
- raping young children, killing apostates, or gay people is immoral.  Only genocidal maniac would recommend such 'solutions'.  Maybe because Quran was written by such people.

and not to forget Jewish god:
- 40 years in the dessert, parting sea waters and manna from heaven sounds as ridiculous as tooth fairies, or flat Earth.
- 600+ some 'laws'.  Why so many? He was lazy enough with creation job, but very diligent in describing who you can beat to death, who you can rape, or kill.  Who you can have sex with, who you cannot.  BTW, if he was against gays why did he create lambs?  15-20% of lambs are gay.
All their laws are ridiculous by today's standards.

Should I go on with Mormonism?  Or you have get the picture...





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