Proof that God exists

[BADecker]

Personally I believe God exist I have witness his wok in my life all yo need is to believe and accept his son Jesus

Again just words! And where is the evidence? You have any proof of these "God exists because it can not be!" It does not happen. You like children believe in fairytales.

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[jovs]

After long and secular debates about atheism, the need for a separate topic about God's existence has arisen.
There are amongst us a group of people who believe that while there is no proof that God exists, there also is no proof that He doesn't exist.
Please share your argument in a logical manner and abstain from saying things like "I'm right because I'm right".
I know that this, in the end, is a philosophical discussion so only logical are welcome.

Just like a cellphone, there should be a creator to do that and like a house, there should be a creator to do that. Hence, in our world, universe, and all life that exist, there should be a one supreme creator in order to do that, and that supreme creator is God.

[The_prodigy]

Scientist does not believe in god because they believing that all things or all in this world and created by science and not god but for us who don't have good studies on science and all things in science we do believe in god and we have big faith on him i believe in god that's 100% i always experienced how really good he is.

Everybody knows way down in their hearts that God exists. Some people simply try to hide it from themselves. Many who do this succeed. However, in times of great joy, or in times of great agony, most people can't maintain their delusion that there is no God within themselves.



EDIT: Part of the danger for people like God-fearing flat-earthers is, their intentional blindness to those things of science that are real, and their intentional adoption of false, flat-earth science, is becoming a religion within them, that might overcome their faith in God sometime.

Many of us are not believing in god they are blinded when it comes we talk to god because they have really bad experience that day (in my own prediction) and based on my friends experience and if you are keep believing on god then you will know the big differences in life with god is always win.
We always keep faith to god and with god we always success what we want.

[MiSKLaCH]

Just like a cellphone, there should be a creator to do that and like a house, there should be a creator to do that. Hence, in our world, universe, and all life that exist, there should be a one supreme creator in order to do that, and that supreme creator is God.

Why? Why there should be a creator? If you follow this concept, one could assume that there should be a creator of the creator itself... and so on... this is just nonsense!
Come on, try to use your brain... you are blindly trusting something written on a book centuries ago, when the knowledge about the universe and so on was a fraction of a fraction of what we actually know, and we're discovering new things every day. Science brought us to the Moon, will bring us to Mars... and, one day, even beyond!
If it was for the bible, we would still grazing goats in the desert, praying for the rain.

[shyich03]

If God do exist, and God reveals himself, there will be a way for mortals to become god. Then God is just a more powerful mortal. God is only God if no one can be certain of its existence, and can only exist in people's hearts.

[BADecker]

Just like a cellphone, there should be a creator to do that and like a house, there should be a creator to do that. Hence, in our world, universe, and all life that exist, there should be a one supreme creator in order to do that, and that supreme creator is God.

Why? Why there should be a creator? If you follow this concept, one could assume that there should be a creator of the creator itself... and so on... this is just nonsense!

Are you just trolling, or what? If there were a Creator of the universe, He would necessarily not be able to be part of the universe "before" He created it. The "laws" that rule His existence would not necessarily be the same as universe laws. This means that He would not necessarily have to be created at all.

Come on, try to use your brain... you are blindly trusting something written on a book centuries ago, when the knowledge about the universe and so on was a fraction of a fraction of what we actually know, and we're discovering new things every day. Science brought us to the Moon, will bring us to Mars... and, one day, even beyond!

Talk about using your brain. Haven't you seen how I have shown that science proves that God exists? And haven't you seen that the machinery of nature shows that God exists? What book are you talking about? No book needed.

If it was for the bible, we would still grazing goats in the desert, praying for the rain.

The Bible is the Book that tells how to get rid of crooks and murders. Kill them off so that we can live peaceably and make advancements in science... advancements that God set into the fabric of the Universe for us to find. It's hard to do this if there are bad guys around messing up our good work.

[BADecker]

If God do exist, and God reveals himself, there will be a way for mortals to become god. Then God is just a more powerful mortal. God is only God if no one can be certain of its existence, and can only exist in people's hearts.

God reveals Himself to us in the machinery of nature.

The way for mortals to become God is to take part of His divine holiness. As soon as we fail, we fall away from being God. God always is Himself even if we are part of Him.

[simpler2016]

If the forces of nature is called God, maybe I'll believe it. But all that the fairy tale, which is described in the Bible, and these books - for me only historical literature, fiction and no more

[BADecker]

If the forces of nature is called God, maybe I'll believe it. But all that the fairy tale, which is described in the Bible, and these books - for me only historical literature, fiction and no more

Not the forces of nature, but all of nature.

Nature is not God. A machine is not the maker of the machine. God made the machine of nature.

The history of the Bible and the people of Israel is a miraculous history. It is a history that shows God made the Bible to be what it is. The Bible is God's Word.

[Gasturcas]

I always believe in God. I was raised as a Catholic and mostly likely I'm already a Christian by religion. Just to share with you my experience, whenever I'm in need God is always there that provides. He has always a plan for everything. I do believe in the saying that "God knows what we feel, so therefore we need to act according to his will". Action is always made with a decision by man. But man needs to act the goodness and not for evil intentions.

[Buffer Overflow]

If the forces of nature is called God, maybe I'll believe it. But all that the fairy tale, which is described in the Bible, and these books - for me only historical literature, fiction and no more

Not the forces of nature, but all of nature.

Nature is not God. A machine is not the maker of the machine. God made the machine of nature.

The history of the Bible and the people of Israel is a miraculous history. It is a history that shows God made the Bible to be what it is. The Bible is God's Word.

Round and round BADlogic goes, like a washing machine.

[MiSKLaCH]

Are you just trolling, or what? If there were a Creator of the universe, He would necessarily not be able to be part of the universe "before" He created it. The "laws" that rule His existence would not necessarily be the same as universe laws. This means that He would not necessarily have to be created at all.

And this makes sense to you? Do you really believe to this fairy tale? Do you understand that this doesn't makes any sense at all?
A you just trolling or are you insane?

Talk about using your brain. Haven't you seen how I have shown that science proves that God exists? And haven't you seen that the machinery of nature shows that God exists? What book are you talking about? No book needed.

No, you keep saying that you give proofs that your god exists without giving any real proof, only your questionable point of view about stuff you cannot even understand.
Indeed, you trust the holy crap which says that the Earth has been created little less than 6,000 years ago... when there are real proofs (not your pathetic assumptions) that the Earth is, at least, 4,5 billion years old. There are a great number of ways to prove and confirm that, and you have not a single way prove the contrary, but you still keep blattering about proofs here, proofs there... pathetic.

The Bible is the Book that tells how to get rid of crooks and murders. Kill them off so that we can live peaceably and make advancements in science... advancements that God set into the fabric of the Universe for us to find. It's hard to do this if there are bad guys around messing up our good work.

The bible is a collection of fairy tales.

[BADecker]

Are you just trolling, or what? If there were a Creator of the universe, He would necessarily not be able to be part of the universe "before" He created it. The "laws" that rule His existence would not necessarily be the same as universe laws. This means that He would not necessarily have to be created at all.

And this makes sense to you? Do you really believe to this fairy tale? Do you understand that this doesn't makes any sense at all?
A you just trolling or are you insane?

None of the above. I was simply showing you how ridiculous your ideas are. God, being so much greater than this universe, doesn't have to act according to any of the laws of this universe.

Talk about using your brain. Haven't you seen how I have shown that science proves that God exists? And haven't you seen that the machinery of nature shows that God exists? What book are you talking about? No book needed.

No, you keep saying that you give proofs that your god exists without giving any real proof, only your questionable point of view about stuff you cannot even understand.
Indeed, you trust the holy crap which says that the Earth has been created little less than 6,000 years ago... when there are real proofs (not your pathetic assumptions) that the Earth is, at least, 4,5 billion years old. There are a great number of ways to prove and confirm that, and you have not a single way prove the contrary, but you still keep blattering about proofs here, proofs there... pathetic.

The funny part about the things you say is, it is all just blabber. How do we know? You can't refute the scientific laws and the logic behind combining them. You simply say that they don't make any sense. So, you would like to refute the whole science community who recognizes these laws. You're losing it.

The Bible is the Book that tells how to get rid of crooks and murders. Kill them off so that we can live peaceably and make advancements in science... advancements that God set into the fabric of the Universe for us to find. It's hard to do this if there are bad guys around messing up our good work.

The bible is a collection of fairy tales.

The Bible makes sense regarding man and God. The way it came together is a miracle. The nation of Israel is a miracle nation. The prophesies that are being fulfilled and have been fulfilled show the strength of the Bible. The fact that there is little or no change in over 2,000 years of hand copying, is proven by the Dead Sea Scrolls. The Bible is the Word of God Who has enough power to create a whole universe in 6 days.

You are sooo lucky He doesn't have something against you, and that He is patient with you. Otherwise you would simply be gone.

[Buffer Overflow]

The Bible is the Word of God Who has enough power to create a whole universe in 6 days.

[MiSKLaCH]

[looooots of bullshits snipped]

You are sooo lucky He doesn't have something against you, and that He is patient with you. Otherwise you would simply be gone.

LOL! Trust me, it's not that I'm sooo lucky... simply your almighty god is non-existant fictional character, so he cannot do a damn thing against anyone! 

You know what? It's not up to me to open your eyes... if you want to believe such bunch of funny stories, good for you.
I will keep living in the real world.

 

[BADecker]

[looooots of bullshits snipped]

You are sooo lucky He doesn't have something against you, and that He is patient with you. Otherwise you would simply be gone.

LOL! Trust me, it's not that I'm sooo lucky... simply your almighty god is non-existant fictional character, so he cannot do a damn thing against anyone! 

You know what? It's not up to me to open your eyes... if you want to believe such bunch of funny stories, good for you.
I will keep living in the real world.

 

As long as you deny science and observation of nature, God may remain hidden for you. This doesn't mean that God doesn't exist. It means that, like the proverbial ostrich, you have your head in the sand. You are worse than the ostrich. You are a thinking person. The ostrich simply does it out of ignorant fear. You do it out of intentional denial of facts.

Your choice as to the way that God will make Himself known to you. But you won't like it when He forces knowledge of Himself on you. At that time, you won't have the choice to recognize Him. It will be pure force.

[BADecker]

[looooots of bullshits snipped]

You are sooo lucky He doesn't have something against you, and that He is patient with you. Otherwise you would simply be gone.

LOL! Trust me, it's not that I'm sooo lucky... simply your almighty god is non-existant fictional character, so he cannot do a damn thing against anyone! 

You know what? It's not up to me to open your eyes... if you want to believe such bunch of funny stories, good for you.
I will keep living in the real world.

 

As long as you deny science and observation of nature, God may remain hidden for you. This doesn't mean that God doesn't exist. It means that, like the proverbial ostrich, you have your head in the sand. You are worse than the ostrich. You are a thinking person. The ostrich simply does it out of ignorant fear. You do it out of intentional denial of facts.

Your choice as to the way that God will make Himself known to you. But you won't like it when He forces knowledge of Himself on you. At that time, you won't have the choice to recognize Him. It will be pure force.

Badecker you could always sing this.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qj1heGiIehU

And repeat.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qj1heGiIehU

And repeat..https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qj1heGiIehU

Reminds me when you speak about religion ..

You could always look at the definition of "religion ( http://www.dictionary.com/browse/religion?s=t ) to see what a pathetic religion you have for yourself.

[Xester]

[looooots of bullshits snipped]

You are sooo lucky He doesn't have something against you, and that He is patient with you. Otherwise you would simply be gone.

LOL! Trust me, it's not that I'm sooo lucky... simply your almighty god is non-existant fictional character, so he cannot do a damn thing against anyone! 

You know what? It's not up to me to open your eyes... if you want to believe such bunch of funny stories, good for you.
I will keep living in the real world.

 

As long as you deny science and observation of nature, God may remain hidden for you. This doesn't mean that God doesn't exist. It means that, like the proverbial ostrich, you have your head in the sand. You are worse than the ostrich. You are a thinking person. The ostrich simply does it out of ignorant fear. You do it out of intentional denial of facts.

Your choice as to the way that God will make Himself known to you. But you won't like it when He forces knowledge of Himself on you. At that time, you won't have the choice to recognize Him. It will be pure force.

Badecker you could always sing this.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qj1heGiIehU

And repeat.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qj1heGiIehU

And repeat..https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qj1heGiIehU

Reminds me when you speak about religion ..

You could always look at the definition of "religion ( http://www.dictionary.com/browse/religion?s=t ) to see what a pathetic religion you have for yourself.

when we say religion we are also referring to god, you think if there is no religion, whom we should worship, whom we should praise? The existence of God was unbelievable but once you have faith. there is God in your life. Faith will lead you to our creator.  we may not see God but he is always with us. and if you love his creations, you also love him!

[Vod]

But you won't like it when He forces knowledge of Himself on you. At that time, you won't have the choice to recognize Him. It will be pure force.

Will probably be when I'm changing.  I've always said the christian god was nothing but a Trump-like pervert.   

[Kemarit]

After long and secular debates about atheism, the need for a separate topic about God's existence has arisen.
There are amongst us a group of people who believe that while there is no proof that God exists, there also is no proof that He doesn't exist.
Please share your argument in a logical manner and abstain from saying things like "I'm right because I'm right".
I know that this, in the end, is a philosophical discussion so only logical are welcome.

It will always be an argument if God do exist. But its really not a big deal here just respect what you believe.