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February 17, 2016, 06:42:11 PM |
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I didn't click on the links, so this may have been answered, but doesn't the Bible say that we shouldn't eat shellfish?
Land animals: 1 And the Lord spake unto Moses and to Aaron, saying unto them,
2 Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, These are the beasts which ye shall eat among all the beasts that are on the earth.
3 Whatsoever parteth the hoof, and is clovenfooted, and cheweth the cud, among the beasts, that shall ye eat.
4 Nevertheless these shall ye not eat of them that chew the cud, or of them that divide the hoof: as the camel, because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he is unclean unto you.
5 And the coney, because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he is unclean unto you.
6 And the hare, because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he is unclean unto you.
7 And the swine, though he divide the hoof, and be clovenfooted, yet he cheweth not the cud; he is unclean to you.
8 Of their flesh shall ye not eat, and their carcase shall ye not touch; they are unclean to you. Note: Hares are rabbits, which do not chew their cud like a cow or camel... God got this animal 100% wrong (also note, a coney is a hare/rabbit... God is redundant with his mistakes) Sea animals: 9 These shall ye eat of all that are in the waters: whatsoever hath fins and scales in the waters, in the seas, and in the rivers, them shall ye eat.
10 And all that have not fins and scales in the seas, and in the rivers, of all that move in the waters, and of any living thing which is in the waters, they shall be an abomination unto you:
11 They shall be even an abomination unto you; ye shall not eat of their flesh, but ye shall have their carcases in abomination.
12 Whatsoever hath no fins nor scales in the waters, that shall be an abomination unto you. Birds: 13 And these are they which ye shall have in abomination among the fowls; they shall not be eaten, they are an abomination: the eagle, and the ossifrage, and the ospray,
14 And the vulture, and the kite after his kind;
15 Every raven after his kind;
16 And the owl, and the night hawk, and the cuckow, and the hawk after his kind,
17 And the little owl, and the cormorant, and the great owl,
18 And the swan, and the pelican, and the gier eagle,
19 And the stork, the heron after her kind, and the lapwing, and the bat.
20 All fowls that creep, going upon all four, shall be an abomination unto you.
21 Yet these may ye eat of every flying creeping thing that goeth upon all four, which have legs above their feet, to leap withal upon the earth;
22 Even these of them ye may eat; the locust after his kind, and the bald locust after his kind, and the beetle after his kind, and the grasshopper after his kind.
23 But all other flying creeping things, which have four feet, shall be an abomination unto you. Note: this is only the tip of the iceberg... you also cannot eat meat and dairy in the same meal, etc... it's kinda spread throughout different books of the bible... God wasn't very organized when he wrote all those books... The Talmudic rabbis believed that the biblical text only forbade eating a mixture of milk and meat, but because the biblical regulation is triplicated they imposed three distinct regulations to represent it:
not cooking meat and milk together (regardless of whether the result was eaten)
not eating milk and meat together (regardless of whether it was cooked together)
not benefiting from the mixture in any other way Why did God need to repeat this law 3 times? Wouldn't a perfect God write it perfectly the first time? Because he was half drunk at the time  . The milk and meat bit was probably added by a guy with a really nasty diarrhea. Good find. Keep them coming.... |
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February 17, 2016, 06:43:26 PM |
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Well it's a good extract! I shall just take it out next time someone says "but it's so stupid to see Muslims not eating porks, at least there is nothing like this in the Bible it would be dumb" ^^
Newsflash: Not many Christians have actually read the bible... they have no clue what it says The quickest path to becoming an Atheist is reading the bible... I doubt many Christians would get past Deuteronomy before becoming an Atheist I'm neither Christians nor Atheist but I tried to read the Bible. I never past the page 15. It's probably the worst book ever! A style that could kill you of boredom and absolutely 0 sense or substance! |
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Moloch
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February 17, 2016, 06:44:36 PM |
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Well it's a good extract! I shall just take it out next time someone says "but it's so stupid to see Muslims not eating porks, at least there is nothing like this in the Bible it would be dumb" ^^
Newsflash: Not many Christians have actually read the bible... they have no clue what it says The quickest path to becoming an Atheist is reading the bible... I doubt many Christians would get past Deuteronomy before becoming an Atheist I'm neither Christians nor Atheist but I tried to read the Bible. I never past the page 15. It's probably the worst book ever! A style that could kill you of boredom and absolutely 0 sense or substance! Not to get technical, but if you don't believe in a god... that's the definition of Atheist Atheism is, in a broad sense, the rejection of belief in the existence of deities. In a narrower sense, atheism is specifically the position that there are no deities. Most inclusively, atheism is the absence of belief that any deities exist. Atheism is contrasted with theism, which, in its most general form, is the belief that at least one deity exists |
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February 17, 2016, 06:46:06 PM |
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bible, koran and any other religious stuff says illogical things not just bible but if someone believes these sayings of bible or other stuff's , we should respect to them.. |
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Moloch
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February 17, 2016, 06:47:44 PM |
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bible, koran and any other religious stuff says illogical things not just bible but if someone believes these sayings of bible or other stuff's , we should respect to them.. Should I also respect someone who believes in unicorns, Zeus, Santa Claus, and the Tooth Fairy? (at least people who believe in Santa Clause don't tell me, I am evil and Santa will condemn me to hell where I will burn in a lake of fire for all of eternity) I draw the line with respect, when someone loses touch with reality... and then tries to force their delusion upon me |
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af_newbie (OP)
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February 17, 2016, 06:50:45 PM |
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Well it's a good extract! I shall just take it out next time someone says "but it's so stupid to see Muslims not eating porks, at least there is nothing like this in the Bible it would be dumb" ^^
Newsflash: Not many Christians have actually read the bible... they have no clue what it says beyond the fru-fru stories the preacher cherry-picks for them The quickest path to becoming an Atheist is reading the bible... I doubt many Christians would get past Deuteronomy before becoming an Atheist (I didn't) I became Atheist reading first few verses when he created Earth in the dark, then created plants before creating the Sun and the Stars. It went down the hill after that.... Bible: ------ Kings 6:29 - cannibalism Leviticus 25:44 - slavery Deuteronomy 13:12-15 - genocide Leviticus 10:6 - you will die if you rip your clothes Leviticus 19:19 - breeding cattle is illegal Leviticus 21 - some bat crazy rules for priests, do not fuck young boys should be somewhere there.... Leviticus 20:10 - killing of adulterers Leviticus 20:9 - killing children who dishonor mother or father Leviticus 24:16 - stoning people if they say God's name Deuteronomy 28:53 - more cannibalism Genesis 19:8 - prostituting your virgin daughters Leviticus 19:19 - not mixing two kinds of material for clothing :-) Deuteronomy 22:20-21 - more stoning for not being a virgin Exodus 31:14-15 - killing of people who work on Sabbath Deuteronomy 25:11-12 - cutting off hands Deuteronomy 23:1 - you'll not go to heaven if your testicles are damaged Leviticus 19:27 - no haircuts of any kind Leviticus 19:28 - no tattoos, or else Leviticus 11:7-8 - eating pork is forbidden New Testament: -------------- Matthew 5:29 - plucking out eyes Matthew 5:30 - cutting off hands Matthew 10:34 - waging wars by a sword Corinthians 14:34-35 - women should be quiet and obey Mark 10:11-12 - only marry once otherwise check Leviticus 20:10 for remedy Luke 19:26-2 - genocide Romans 1:20-32 - killing sinners Revelation 2:5 - more killing Revelation 2:23 - killing children Psalm 137:9 - killing babies |
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February 17, 2016, 06:51:20 PM |
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Typical Internet atheist topic.
It's supposed to be about what the Bible says, but instead it's just some Youtube links and a bunch of people who don't know what they're talking about.
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af_newbie (OP)
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February 17, 2016, 06:51:49 PM |
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bible, koran and any other religious stuff says illogical things not just bible but if someone believes these sayings of bible or other stuff's , we should respect to them.. We'll do Quran next. We are not done with the Bible. |
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Moloch
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February 17, 2016, 06:52:29 PM |
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Typical Internet atheist topic.
It's supposed to be about what the Bible says, but instead it's just some Youtube links and a bunch of people who don't know what they're talking about.
Just ignore all the biblical quotes we keep posting And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye. |
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runpaint
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February 17, 2016, 06:53:32 PM |
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I became Atheist reading first few verses
No you didn't. If you had good reasons, you wouldn't have to lie. |
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Moloch
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February 17, 2016, 06:54:34 PM |
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I became Atheist reading first few verses
No you didn't. If you had good reasons, you wouldn't have to lie. Typical Christian tactics... blaming everyone else but themselves for being liars... A man cannot even give his own opinion/testimony without being called a liar? WHAT THE FUCK?!? This is his personal history... Who are you to say he's lying?!? |
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February 17, 2016, 06:54:46 PM |
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Typical Internet atheist topic.
It's supposed to be about what the Bible says, but instead it's just some Youtube links and a bunch of people who don't know what they're talking about.
Just ignore all the biblical quotes we keep posting And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye. What is "crazy" about the verses you're quoting here? Are you saying Jesus was wrong to speak against hypocrisy? |
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February 17, 2016, 06:56:36 PM |
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Typical Internet atheist topic.
It's supposed to be about what the Bible says, but instead it's just some Youtube links and a bunch of people who don't know what they're talking about.
What about all the crazy things we keep posting that are in the Bible? Oo You agree we should never eat rabbits and that rabbits are demons and anyone eating rabbits should go to hell? |
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Moloch
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February 17, 2016, 06:58:30 PM |
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Typical Internet atheist topic.
It's supposed to be about what the Bible says, but instead it's just some Youtube links and a bunch of people who don't know what they're talking about.
Just ignore all the biblical quotes we keep posting And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye. What is "crazy" about the verses you're quoting here? Are you saying Jesus was wrong to speak against hypocrisy? No, I'm calling you a hypocrite for posting, "It's supposed to be about what the Bible says, but instead it's just some Youtube links and a bunch of people who don't know what they're talking about." Perhaps if you read and understood the biblical passage you just quoted... you would feel embarrassed right now, but I somehow doubt that You obviously missed all the biblical quotes... and you didn't watch the youtube videos because they are 100% relevant... (proving " you don't know what you are talking about") |
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February 17, 2016, 07:04:05 PM |
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Typical Internet atheist topic.
It's supposed to be about what the Bible says, but instead it's just some Youtube links and a bunch of people who don't know what they're talking about.
Just ignore all the biblical quotes we keep posting And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye. What is "crazy" about the verses you're quoting here? Are you saying Jesus was wrong to speak against hypocrisy? The Messiah must be a physical descendant of David (Romans 1:3 & Acts 2:30). Yet, how could Jesus meet this requirement since his genealogies in Matthew 1 and Luke 3 show he descended from David through Joseph, who was not his natural father because of the Virgin Birth. Hence, this prophecy could not have been fulfilled. If this is the case then Jebus was a false messiah a liar a charlatan, a conman just like todays politicians. Only those who are not gullible to suggestion like me and many others, have free will to think how we like. I suppose a lot of people who believe in this bullcrap think the devil is real also. |
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February 17, 2016, 07:04:30 PM |
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Note: this is only the tip of the iceberg... you also cannot eat meat and dairy in the same meal, etc... it's kinda spread throughout different books of the bible... God wasn't very organized when he wrote all those books... The Talmudic rabbis believed that the biblical text only forbade eating a mixture of milk and meat, but because the biblical regulation is triplicated they imposed three distinct regulations to represent it:
not cooking meat and milk together (regardless of whether the result was eaten)
not eating milk and meat together (regardless of whether it was cooked together)
not benefiting from the mixture in any other way Why did God need to repeat this law 3 times? Wouldn't a perfect God write it perfectly the first time? Since you're talking about people who haven't read the Bible, and you're talking about hypocrites, perhaps you could show us the verses that say we can't eat meat and milk together. Unless you're a hypocrite doing the same thing you're accusing other people of doing. |
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February 17, 2016, 07:09:51 PM |
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Typical Internet atheist topic.
It's supposed to be about what the Bible says, but instead it's just some Youtube links and a bunch of people who don't know what they're talking about.
Updated the OP for you. If something is incorrect, let me know. |
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February 17, 2016, 07:11:32 PM |
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Typical Internet atheist topic.
It's supposed to be about what the Bible says, but instead it's just some Youtube links and a bunch of people who don't know what they're talking about.
Just ignore all the biblical quotes we keep posting And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye. What is "crazy" about the verses you're quoting here? Are you saying Jesus was wrong to speak against hypocrisy? No, I'm calling you a hypocrite for posting, "It's supposed to be about what the Bible says, but instead it's just some Youtube links and a bunch of people who don't know what they're talking about." Perhaps if you read and understood the biblical passage you just quoted... you would feel embarrassed right now, but I somehow doubt that So now you're quoting Bible verses that you agree with? You obviously missed all the biblical quotes... and you didn't watch the youtube videos because they are 100% relevant... (proving "you don't know what you are talking about")
I didn't watch the Youtube videos, because the person who made those videos isn't here. If OP has something to say about the Bible, why can't he say it? Because he just watched some Youtube videos and doesn't know what he's talking about? You posted some Bible verses about what food the Israelites were allowed to eat. You didn't explain why you thought the rules were crazy. Then you posted some other things that aren't even from the Bible. You raised some objection to the Hebrew classification of animals who re-eat things they've already eaten, but in fact rabbits do eat their own feces. Surprise surprise, you are the one who was wrong instead of God being wrong like you said. Amazing. |
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February 17, 2016, 07:13:17 PM |
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Note: this is only the tip of the iceberg... you also cannot eat meat and dairy in the same meal, etc... it's kinda spread throughout different books of the bible... God wasn't very organized when he wrote all those books... The Talmudic rabbis believed that the biblical text only forbade eating a mixture of milk and meat, but because the biblical regulation is triplicated they imposed three distinct regulations to represent it:
not cooking meat and milk together (regardless of whether the result was eaten)
not eating milk and meat together (regardless of whether it was cooked together)
not benefiting from the mixture in any other way Why did God need to repeat this law 3 times? Wouldn't a perfect God write it perfectly the first time? Since you're talking about people who haven't read the Bible, and you're talking about hypocrites, perhaps you could show us the verses that say we can't eat meat and milk together. Unless you're a hypocrite doing the same thing you're accusing other people of doing. Dude... what the fuck don't you understand? The Jews wrote the bible! It's called the HEBREW BIBLE Then post the Bible verses that say we can't eat milk and meat together. Otherwise just admit that you're a liar, a hypocrite, and completely wrong and foolish. You've just told us that God repeated this law 3 times. Why can't you show it even once? |
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February 17, 2016, 07:15:34 PM |
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Then post the Bible verses that say we can't eat milk and meat together.
Otherwise just admit that you're a liar, a hypocrite, and completely wrong and foolish.
You've just told us that God repeated this law 3 times. Why can't you show it even once?
Updated for your convenience: (if you were not so impatient with your reply, you could have waited for me to update the original) Note: this is only the tip of the iceberg... you also cannot eat meat and dairy in the same meal, etc... it's kinda spread throughout different books of the bible... God wasn't very organized when he wrote all those books... The Talmudic rabbis believed that the biblical text only forbade eating a mixture of milk and meat, but because the biblical regulation is triplicated they imposed three distinct regulations to represent it:
not cooking meat and milk together (regardless of whether the result was eaten)
not eating milk and meat together (regardless of whether it was cooked together)
not benefiting from the mixture in any other way Why did God need to repeat this law 3 times? Wouldn't a perfect God write it perfectly the first time? Since you're talking about people who haven't read the Bible, and you're talking about hypocrites, perhaps you could show us the verses that say we can't eat meat and milk together. Unless you're a hypocrite doing the same thing you're accusing other people of doing. Dude... what the fuck don't you understand? The Jews wrote the bible! It's called the HEBREW BIBLEThe first of the firstfruits of thy land thou shalt bring into the house of the Lord thy God. Thou shalt not seethe a kid in his mother's milk. The first of the firstfruits of thy land thou shalt bring unto the house of the Lord thy God. Thou shalt not seethe a kid in his mother's milk. Ye shall not eat of anything that dieth of itself: thou shalt give it unto the stranger that is in thy gates, that he may eat it; or thou mayest sell it unto an alien: for thou art an holy people unto the Lord thy God. Thou shalt not seethe a kid in his mother's milk. The question remains... why is a perfect God, so redundant? |
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