Crazy shit Bible says, crazy shit Christians say

[electronicash]

You people are showing a lot of hatred towards believers.. Just live and let others live... The other day posting something anti-religious... You people are questioning gods words... If there is no god then where do you think you will go after you die??
Within few days your body will turn into ashtrays... Then what about the soul.. Where do you think it will go??

What's the soul? You ever saw one? Touched one? Experienced one?
Yeah after death there is nothing. Religious know that it's true for animals, why would it be different for humans?
Animals have no souls but we do? Well would you care to explain why and how you know it?

Because we're the best creature from God. We're intelligent, we feel what's good and what's bad, and this is the soul. After your death, your judged and go spend the eternity in Heaven or in Hell.

We're intelligent? Have you thought yourself really?  

if for instance you were taught that killing is good you might just create a c4timer and bomb a damn building just to show you a good man.
see it all depends to how you were taught.. if you were taught to rape girls because its how it should be, you could probably rape a dozen of girls before resting like a bat hanging upside down if you were also taught its how you should rest.

Whene youre dead, its the end of your world. thats it end of story. you'll be forgetten after several years just like how you forgot tha name of your grandfather.,

[mrflibblehat]

Exactly. When you're dead you're dead. There's nothing else after that.

[af_newbie]

You people are showing a lot of hatred towards believers.. Just live and let others live... The other day posting something anti-religious... You people are questioning gods words... If there is no god then where do you think you will go after you die??
Within few days your body will turn into ashtrays... Then what about the soul.. Where do you think it will go??

What's the soul? You ever saw one? Touched one? Experienced one?
Yeah after death there is nothing. Religious know that it's true for animals, why would it be different for humans?
Animals have no souls but we do? Well would you care to explain why and how you know it?

Because we're the best creature from God. We're intelligent, we feel what's good and what's bad, and this is the soul. After your death, your judged and go spend the eternity in Heaven or in Hell.

Just go and study a little bit of biochemistry and see if you still think you'll be alive after you die.

Soul is a fancy, religious word for "you, your identity, your personality etc."  It is a valid question.  How do we determine what constitutes one's personality and identity, is it a ghostly soul?

The answer is rather simple.  Some people who had accidental damage to their brains (due to car or other accidents) come out without knowing who they were.  Their personality completely changes, they might not remember their loved ones, they don't remember themselves.  There is your proof that what you call a soul is purely physical, it is somewhere in your brain.  Probably a set of interconnections that make you, you.  You distort that set and you get a different person.

The most fascinating and scary aspect of AI is that once those interconnections are fully understood and can be up/down loaded to/from another carbon based or silicon life form, you can be reproduced, you can become someone else, someone else can become you.

Question for you?  Why you think "we are the best creature from God"?  Because the Bible says?  Or you have some inside knowledge?

What makes you think God is done creating animals?  Species die and new species evolve to take their place all the time.

When human evolution will eventually split human specie into several species due to unrestricted genetic manipulation, who will be the God's people. The most primitive ones?  The ones without enhanced genetic pedigree?

Your God is becoming irrelevant.  To most scientists God does not enter into their equations.  Their work has nothing to do with God.
It is not even topic of a discussion among scientists.  There is no data, nothing to discuss.

So your belief is very irrational, I hope one day you'll realize it.

There is a new religion that most people probably fail to see.  It is religion of "data processing".  I don't have a word for it.

When you come to Amazon, amazon website recommends you products to buy.  There are many other examples of this. The external to your body algorithms know more about you than you think and you rely on their wisdom and for the most part trust their wisdom.  When you drive your GPS tells you to turn left and you do if you don't know the area.  You ask this external intelligence for help and get it.  As this external data processing algorithms become more complex, people will rely on them to perform even the simplest task of making a breakfast.  Your fridge will recommend what you should eat on that morning, and you'll do it because the fridge will know more about your body biochemistry, predicted hormone levels, your physical state than you.  This extra processing power is popping up in all new products and people accept it without even realizing what is happening.
 
The religions of the past will be studied by historians but will be irrelevant to other people.  

[-XXIII-]

You people are showing a lot of hatred towards believers.. Just live and let others live... The other day posting something anti-religious... You people are questioning gods words... If there is no god then where do you think you will go after you die??
Within few days your body will turn into ashtrays... Then what about the soul.. Where do you think it will go??

What's the soul? You ever saw one? Touched one? Experienced one?
Yeah after death there is nothing. Religious know that it's true for animals, why would it be different for humans?
Animals have no souls but we do? Well would you care to explain why and how you know it?

Because we're the best creature from God. We're intelligent, we feel what's good and what's bad, and this is the soul. After your death, your judged and go spend the eternity in Heaven or in Hell.

Just go and study a little bit of biochemistry and see if you still think you'll be alive after you die.

Soul is a fancy, religious word for "you, your identity, your personality etc."  It is a valid question.  How do we determine what constitutes one's personality and identity, is it a ghostly soul?

The answer is rather simple.  Some people who had accidental damage to their brains (due to car or other accidents) come out without knowing who they were.  Their personality completely changes, they might not remember their loved ones, they don't remember themselves.  There is your proof that what you call a soul is purely physical, it is somewhere in your brain.  Probably a set of interconnections that make you, you.  You distort that set and you get a different person.

The most fascinating and scary aspect of AI is that once those interconnections are fully understood and can be up/down loaded to/from another carbon based or silicon life form, you can be reproduced, you can become someone else, someone else can become you.

Question for you?  Why you think "we are the best creature from God"?  Because the Bible says?  Or you have some inside knowledge?

What makes you think God is done creating animals?  Species die and new species evolve to take their place all the time.

When human evolution will eventually split human specie into several species due to unrestricted genetic manipulation, who will be the God's people. The most primitive ones?  The ones without enhanced genetic pedigree?

Your God is becoming irrelevant.  To most scientists God does not enter into their equations.  Their work has nothing to do with God.
It is not even topic of a discussion among scientists.  There is no data, nothing to discuss.

So your belief is very irrational, I hope one day you'll realize it.

There is a new religion that most people probably fail to see.  It is religion of "data processing".  I don't have a word for it.

When you come to Amazon, amazon website recommends you products to buy.  There are many other examples of this. The external to your body algorithms know more about you than you think and you rely on their wisdom and for the most part trust their wisdom.  When you drive your GPS tells you to turn left and you do if you don't know the area.  You ask this external intelligence for help and get it.  As this external data processing algorithms become more complex, people will rely on them to perform even the simplest task of making a breakfast.  Your fridge will recommend what you should eat on that morning, and you'll do it because the fridge will know more about your body biochemistry, predicted hormone levels, your physical state than you.  This extra processing power is popping up in all new products and people accept it without even realizing what is happening.
 
The religions of the past will be studied by historians but will be irrelevant to other people.  

I got a question for you; what makes you less wrong than any of the people you're arguing against? You're constantly telling others what to do, and why their intelligence is biased and wrong, but forget the fact that you're also human and subject to it's imperfections.

If you truly want someone to argue religion with, find a religion forum and bash them there. You're not going to find anyone with a sustainable argument if you post debates in irrelevant forums.

edit: Let me also ask you this: You referred to bible verses in your OP. Do you believe these verses to be true or false?

[Losvienleg]

Lots of funny folks there !

About the soul : think the human body as a computer. The OS is the soul. If you erase the HDD, then the soul is still there. Your soul is your subconscious. You can't deleted it.

We're the best because we're made as God's image, and because who create music, write poems, invent cars. That's not ants for sure.

Someone else can't become you, because he will never have the same soul, the same way to think.

[af_newbie]

You people are showing a lot of hatred towards believers.. Just live and let others live... The other day posting something anti-religious... You people are questioning gods words... If there is no god then where do you think you will go after you die??
Within few days your body will turn into ashtrays... Then what about the soul.. Where do you think it will go??

What's the soul? You ever saw one? Touched one? Experienced one?
Yeah after death there is nothing. Religious know that it's true for animals, why would it be different for humans?
Animals have no souls but we do? Well would you care to explain why and how you know it?

Because we're the best creature from God. We're intelligent, we feel what's good and what's bad, and this is the soul. After your death, your judged and go spend the eternity in Heaven or in Hell.

Just go and study a little bit of biochemistry and see if you still think you'll be alive after you die.

Soul is a fancy, religious word for "you, your identity, your personality etc."  It is a valid question.  How do we determine what constitutes one's personality and identity, is it a ghostly soul?

The answer is rather simple.  Some people who had accidental damage to their brains (due to car or other accidents) come out without knowing who they were.  Their personality completely changes, they might not remember their loved ones, they don't remember themselves.  There is your proof that what you call a soul is purely physical, it is somewhere in your brain.  Probably a set of interconnections that make you, you.  You distort that set and you get a different person.

The most fascinating and scary aspect of AI is that once those interconnections are fully understood and can be up/down loaded to/from another carbon based or silicon life form, you can be reproduced, you can become someone else, someone else can become you.

Question for you?  Why you think "we are the best creature from God"?  Because the Bible says?  Or you have some inside knowledge?

What makes you think God is done creating animals?  Species die and new species evolve to take their place all the time.

When human evolution will eventually split human specie into several species due to unrestricted genetic manipulation, who will be the God's people. The most primitive ones?  The ones without enhanced genetic pedigree?

Your God is becoming irrelevant.  To most scientists God does not enter into their equations.  Their work has nothing to do with God.
It is not even topic of a discussion among scientists.  There is no data, nothing to discuss.

So your belief is very irrational, I hope one day you'll realize it.

There is a new religion that most people probably fail to see.  It is religion of "data processing".  I don't have a word for it.

When you come to Amazon, amazon website recommends you products to buy.  There are many other examples of this. The external to your body algorithms know more about you than you think and you rely on their wisdom and for the most part trust their wisdom.  When you drive your GPS tells you to turn left and you do if you don't know the area.  You ask this external intelligence for help and get it.  As this external data processing algorithms become more complex, people will rely on them to perform even the simplest task of making a breakfast.  Your fridge will recommend what you should eat on that morning, and you'll do it because the fridge will know more about your body biochemistry, predicted hormone levels, your physical state than you.  This extra processing power is popping up in all new products and people accept it without even realizing what is happening.
 
The religions of the past will be studied by historians but will be irrelevant to other people.  

I got a question for you; what makes you less wrong than any of the people you're arguing against? You're constantly telling others what to do, and why their intelligence is biased and wrong, but forget the fact that you're also human and subject to it's imperfections.

I don't tell people what to do.  I just point out that the bronze age religion has no place in today's world.
Its moral code is repugnant.  It provided no explanations on how the world actually works.  Actually, it is dangerous for people to think the world is structured as described in the Bible, the way societies should function as described in the Bible is a disaster waiting to happen with the military technology we have today.  We could easily wipe the whole human race (and most of the animal kingdom) if people with access to nuclear codes would follow the Bible.

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edit: Let me also ask you this: You referred to bible verses in your OP. Do you believe these verses to be true or false?

The verses were the law of the land during bronze age up to until very recently.  I disagree with the moral code preached in the Bible.  I do not believe this book was inspired by God because I don't believe in non-physical, out of this world realities.

The book provides a bronze age view of the world.  There is nothing in that book that is worth a spit.
The whole idea of non physical God is an insult on our senses.

If you are searching for answers on how to live your life the "religion" of socialism, capitalism, liberalism or humanism are probably the most progressive out there.  But even these will, in not so distant future, be replaced by other "religions".  The pace of change will pick up, so expect these new religions to be discussed in some future crypto currency forums in our lifetimes.

Progress would have never been made if people clung to the bronze age myths.

[xslugx]

Lots of funny folks there !

About the soul : think the human body as a computer. The OS is the soul. If you erase the HDD, then the soul is still there. Your soul is your subconscious. You can't deleted it.

We're the best because we're made as God's image, and because who create music, write poems, invent cars. That's not ants for sure.

Someone else can't become you, because he will never have the same soul, the same way to think.

So you don't acknowledge evolution I guess?

[Losvienleg]

Lots of funny folks there !

About the soul : think the human body as a computer. The OS is the soul. If you erase the HDD, then the soul is still there. Your soul is your subconscious. You can't deleted it.

We're the best because we're made as God's image, and because who create music, write poems, invent cars. That's not ants for sure.

Someone else can't become you, because he will never have the same soul, the same way to think.

So you don't acknowledge evolution I guess?

I don't have an opinion yet on this. I just know that if the evolution in fact happened, all has been conducted by God's hand.

[af_newbie]

Lots of funny folks there !

About the soul : think the human body as a computer. The OS is the soul. If you erase the HDD, then the soul is still there. Your soul is your subconscious. You can't deleted it.

We're the best because we're made as God's image, and because who create music, write poems, invent cars. That's not ants for sure.

Someone else can't become you, because he will never have the same soul, the same way to think.

So the God must be an Atheist.  

He does not believe he exists.  Oh, wait, never mind...

[af_newbie]

Lots of funny folks there !

About the soul : think the human body as a computer. The OS is the soul. If you erase the HDD, then the soul is still there. Your soul is your subconscious. You can't deleted it.

We're the best because we're made as God's image, and because who create music, write poems, invent cars. That's not ants for sure.

Someone else can't become you, because he will never have the same soul, the same way to think.

So you don't acknowledge evolution I guess?

I don't have an opinion yet on this. I just know that if the evolution in fact happened, all has been conducted by God's hand.

And you know this how?  Your gut?

[xslugx]

Lots of funny folks there !

About the soul : think the human body as a computer. The OS is the soul. If you erase the HDD, then the soul is still there. Your soul is your subconscious. You can't deleted it.

We're the best because we're made as God's image, and because who create music, write poems, invent cars. That's not ants for sure.

Someone else can't become you, because he will never have the same soul, the same way to think.

So you don't acknowledge evolution I guess?

I don't have an opinion yet on this. I just know that if the evolution in fact happened, all has been conducted by God's hand.

Great and how do you know that?
Cause if evolution is real could you explain when we started to have a soul?

[Losvienleg]

Lots of funny folks there !

About the soul : think the human body as a computer. The OS is the soul. If you erase the HDD, then the soul is still there. Your soul is your subconscious. You can't deleted it.

We're the best because we're made as God's image, and because who create music, write poems, invent cars. That's not ants for sure.

Someone else can't become you, because he will never have the same soul, the same way to think.

So the God must be an Atheist.  

He does not believe he exists.  Oh, wait, never mind...

Why should he ? Let's inverse the roles. why do you think, since the very beggining of the humanity, humans always trusted the religion ?

Lots of funny folks there !

About the soul : think the human body as a computer. The OS is the soul. If you erase the HDD, then the soul is still there. Your soul is your subconscious. You can't deleted it.

We're the best because we're made as God's image, and because who create music, write poems, invent cars. That's not ants for sure.

Someone else can't become you, because he will never have the same soul, the same way to think.

So you don't acknowledge evolution I guess?

I don't have an opinion yet on this. I just know that if the evolution in fact happened, all has been conducted by God's hand.

And you know this how?  Your gut?

We're perfect. The most beautiful creature in the whole Universe. The only intelligent one. Such a perfection cant be due to the randomness.

Lots of funny folks there !

About the soul : think the human body as a computer. The OS is the soul. If you erase the HDD, then the soul is still there. Your soul is your subconscious. You can't deleted it.

We're the best because we're made as God's image, and because who create music, write poems, invent cars. That's not ants for sure.

Someone else can't become you, because he will never have the same soul, the same way to think.

So you don't acknowledge evolution I guess?

I don't have an opinion yet on this. I just know that if the evolution in fact happened, all has been conducted by God's hand.

Great and how do you know that?
Cause if evolution is real could you explain when we started to have a soul?

We started to have a soul at the instant where God's created the human.

[-XXIII-]

I got a question for you; what makes you less wrong than any of the people you're arguing against? You're constantly telling others what to do, and why their intelligence is biased and wrong, but forget the fact that you're also human and subject to it's imperfections.

I don't tell people what to do.  I just point out that the bronze age religion has no place in today's world.
Its moral code is repugnant.  It provided no explanations on how the world actually works.  Actually, it is dangerous for people to think the world is structured as described in the Bible, the way societies should function as described in the Bible is a disaster waiting to happen with the military technology we have today.  We could easily wipe the whole human race (and most of the animal kingdom) if people with access to nuclear codes would follow the Bible.

....
edit: Let me also ask you this: You referred to bible verses in your OP. Do you believe these verses to be true or false?

The verses were the law of the land during bronze age up to until very recently.  I disagree with the moral code preached in the Bible.  I do not believe this book was inspired by God because I don't believe in non-physical, out of this world realities.

The book provides a bronze age view of the world.  There is nothing in that book that is worth a spit.
The whole idea of non physical God is an insult on our senses.

If you are searching for answers on how to live your life the "religion" of socialism, capitalism, liberalism or humanism are probably the most progressive out there.  But even these will, in not so distant future, be replaced by other "religions".  The pace of change will pick up, so expect these new religions to be discussed in some future crypto currency forums in our lifetimes.

Progress would have never been made if people clung to the bronze age myths.

You do realize your hypocrisy, yes? By invoking and participating in this debate you acknowledge the existence of God as a topic of discussion, and admitting the bible has true events which occurred in history.

[xslugx]

Lots of funny folks there !

About the soul : think the human body as a computer. The OS is the soul. If you erase the HDD, then the soul is still there. Your soul is your subconscious. You can't deleted it.

We're the best because we're made as God's image, and because who create music, write poems, invent cars. That's not ants for sure.

Someone else can't become you, because he will never have the same soul, the same way to think.

So you don't acknowledge evolution I guess?

I don't have an opinion yet on this. I just know that if the evolution in fact happened, all has been conducted by God's hand.

Great and how do you know that?
Cause if evolution is real could you explain when we started to have a soul?

We started to have a soul at the instant where God's created the human.

So you don't trust evolution theory. Because evolution theory explains that God didn't create directly humans but that humans comes from evolution of other species.

[af_newbie]

Lots of funny folks there !

About the soul : think the human body as a computer. The OS is the soul. If you erase the HDD, then the soul is still there. Your soul is your subconscious. You can't deleted it.

We're the best because we're made as God's image, and because who create music, write poems, invent cars. That's not ants for sure.

Someone else can't become you, because he will never have the same soul, the same way to think.

So the God must be an Atheist.  

He does not believe he exists.  Oh, wait, never mind...

Why should he ? Let's inverse the roles. why do you think, since the very beggining of the humanity, humans always trusted the religion ?

Easy.  Religion provided rules for organizing large group of people.  That is how early societies were formed around 70,000 years ago when sapiens moved out of East Africa.  Irrational myths provided answers on why people should trust strangers (with the same beliefs).  Religion enabled co-operation between strangers.  One of the reason Sapiens dominated other homo sub groups.

Lots of funny folks there !

About the soul : think the human body as a computer. The OS is the soul. If you erase the HDD, then the soul is still there. Your soul is your subconscious. You can't deleted it.

We're the best because we're made as God's image, and because who create music, write poems, invent cars. That's not ants for sure.

Someone else can't become you, because he will never have the same soul, the same way to think.

So you don't acknowledge evolution I guess?

I don't have an opinion yet on this. I just know that if the evolution in fact happened, all has been conducted by God's hand.

And you know this how?  Your gut?

We're perfect. The most beautiful creature in the whole Universe. The only intelligent one. Such a perfection cant be due to the randomness.

Are you sure?  Lots of people are born with mental and physical birth defects.

[af_newbie]

I got a question for you; what makes you less wrong than any of the people you're arguing against? You're constantly telling others what to do, and why their intelligence is biased and wrong, but forget the fact that you're also human and subject to it's imperfections.

I don't tell people what to do.  I just point out that the bronze age religion has no place in today's world.
Its moral code is repugnant.  It provided no explanations on how the world actually works.  Actually, it is dangerous for people to think the world is structured as described in the Bible, the way societies should function as described in the Bible is a disaster waiting to happen with the military technology we have today.  We could easily wipe the whole human race (and most of the animal kingdom) if people with access to nuclear codes would follow the Bible.

....
edit: Let me also ask you this: You referred to bible verses in your OP. Do you believe these verses to be true or false?

The verses were the law of the land during bronze age up to until very recently.  I disagree with the moral code preached in the Bible.  I do not believe this book was inspired by God because I don't believe in non-physical, out of this world realities.

The book provides a bronze age view of the world.  There is nothing in that book that is worth a spit.
The whole idea of non physical God is an insult on our senses.

If you are searching for answers on how to live your life the "religion" of socialism, capitalism, liberalism or humanism are probably the most progressive out there.  But even these will, in not so distant future, be replaced by other "religions".  The pace of change will pick up, so expect these new religions to be discussed in some future crypto currency forums in our lifetimes.

Progress would have never been made if people clung to the bronze age myths.

You do realize your hypocrisy, yes? By invoking and participating in this debate you acknowledge the existence of God as a topic of discussion, and admitting the bible has true events which occurred in history.

I participate because I'm offended by these irrational myths.

[-XXIII-]

Religion provided rules for organizing large group of people.

By this logic, science is a religion and math is it's god

[Losvienleg]

Lots of funny folks there !

About the soul : think the human body as a computer. The OS is the soul. If you erase the HDD, then the soul is still there. Your soul is your subconscious. You can't deleted it.

We're the best because we're made as God's image, and because who create music, write poems, invent cars. That's not ants for sure.

Someone else can't become you, because he will never have the same soul, the same way to think.

So you don't acknowledge evolution I guess?

I don't have an opinion yet on this. I just know that if the evolution in fact happened, all has been conducted by God's hand.

Great and how do you know that?
Cause if evolution is real could you explain when we started to have a soul?

We started to have a soul at the instant where God's created the human.

So you don't trust evolution theory. Because evolution theory explains that God didn't create directly humans but that humans comes from evolution of other species.

Yes, you're right. In a way or in another, that's God who created everything, except the sins, which all come from the humans.

To af_newbie (I'll stop quoting again and again) : the humanity in general is perfect (at least the unaltered groups). If some people born unfinished, that's their parents who aren't good enough ...

[craked5]

So you don't trust evolution theory. Because evolution theory explains that God didn't create directly humans but that humans comes from evolution of other species.

Yes, you're right. In a way or in another, that's God who created everything, except the sins, which all come from the humans.

To af_newbie (I'll stop quoting again and again) : the humanity in general is perfect (at least the unaltered groups). If some people born unfinished, that's their parents who aren't good enough ...

It's not the question. I don't care about is God at the source of evolution.
Let's say my question is: do you deny the evolution theory?

[af_newbie]

Religion provided rules for organizing large group of people.

By this logic, science is a religion and math is it's god

Not God.  God is not real.

Like I said before, I think a new religion of "data processing" will be named sometime in not so distant future.

People already follow this religion but it has not been formally defined yet.

The bronze age religions will be studied by historians, psychologists, neuroscientists  but regular people will stop following these irrational myths.  For the same reason they abandoned other religions of the past.

All of this is part of evolution.

BTW, I think there are many other "religions": capitalism, money, socialism, liberalism, humanism all have similar function as theistic religions.