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February 23, 2016, 06:33:30 PM
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I am sure that if downloading the brain information into a hard drive will be possible, the rich majority will try to keep it for themselves. They will not want to have too many immortals out there.

That could be why you have never heard of it Wink


Immortal might be a bit of a misnomer... The person could still die, like always... Just not death by old age... A bullet, or heart-attack could still be lethal

Though, I suppose if they did a nightly backup of their brain, they could have an emergency backup plan in case of death...

Fairly certain I saw a movie with this... the had these little dots under their eye-lids to show how many times they had been cloned already...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_6th_Day

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February 23, 2016, 07:54:10 PM
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I am sure that if downloading the brain information into a hard drive will be possible, the rich majority will try to keep it for themselves. They will not want to have too many immortals out there.

That could be why you have never heard of it Wink


Immortal might be a bit of a misnomer... The person could still die, like always... Just not death by old age... A bullet, or heart-attack could still be lethal

Though, I suppose if they did a nightly backup of their brain, they could have an emergency backup plan in case of death...

Fairly certain I saw a movie with this... the had these little dots under their eye-lids to show how many times they had been cloned already...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_6th_Day



Now there is your time machine.  You do yearly backup when you renew your driver's license.   When you die, they'll restore your brain to the year you specified on driver license application.  Or it could be a walk-in procedure, you walk in and do a refresh from 10 years ago. 

Sort of like the movie Groundhog Day.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VF5P7qLaEQ

Combined with human cloning they will be able to backup one's brain when he/she is born and then clone him/her, grow him/her, and upload the backup.  So people would never really die.


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February 23, 2016, 08:00:13 PM
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Now there is your time machine.  You do yearly backup when you renew your driver's license.   When you die, they'll restore your brain to the year you specified on driver license application.  Or it could be a walk-in procedure, you walk in and do a refresh from 10 years ago. 

Sort of like the movie Groundhog Day.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VF5P7qLaEQ

Combined with human cloning they will be able to backup one's brain when he/she is born and then clone him/her, grow him/her, and upload the backup.  So people would never really die.

That should be doable within 20-40 years, if not sooner...

The hard part is the clone... that's gonna take another 20 years unless you want to be a baby
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February 24, 2016, 08:37:55 AM
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I am sure that if downloading the brain information into a hard drive will be possible, the rich majority will try to keep it for themselves. They will not want to have too many immortals out there.

That could be why you have never heard of it Wink


Immortal might be a bit of a misnomer... The person could still die, like always... Just not death by old age... A bullet, or heart-attack could still be lethal

Though, I suppose if they did a nightly backup of their brain, they could have an emergency backup plan in case of death...

Fairly certain I saw a movie with this... the had these little dots under their eye-lids to show how many times they had been cloned already...


Meh?
How did you come from the Bible to crazy immortal rich dudes? ^^
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February 24, 2016, 01:04:15 PM
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I am sure that if downloading the brain information into a hard drive will be possible, the rich majority will try to keep it for themselves. They will not want to have too many immortals out there.

That could be why you have never heard of it Wink


Immortal might be a bit of a misnomer... The person could still die, like always... Just not death by old age... A bullet, or heart-attack could still be lethal

Though, I suppose if they did a nightly backup of their brain, they could have an emergency backup plan in case of death...

Fairly certain I saw a movie with this... the had these little dots under their eye-lids to show how many times they had been cloned already...


Meh?
How did you come from the Bible to crazy immortal rich dudes? ^^

ahahh, yes i am confused too... i want to know how could you manage to come this point from bible shit ?

 
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February 24, 2016, 01:28:30 PM
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Religion provided rules for organizing large group of people.
By this logic, science is a religion and math is it's god

Not God.  God is not real.

Like I said before, I think a new religion of "data processing" will be named sometime in not so distant future.

People already follow this religion but it has not been formally defined yet.

The bronze age religions will be studied by historians, psychologists, neuroscientists  but regular people will stop following these irrational myths.  For the same reason they abandoned other religions of the past.

All of this is part of evolution.

BTW, I think there are many other "religions": capitalism, money, socialism, liberalism, humanism all have similar function as theistic religions.



Interesting to talk about capitalism as a religion.

It's a good comparison. Capitalism is horrible, kills hundreds of thousands of people, gives everything to a small elite, like a religion.
And like a religion, the "followers" are indoctrinated to worship it without questioning it ever, and to chase the others...

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February 24, 2016, 02:12:28 PM
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Religion provided rules for organizing large group of people.
By this logic, science is a religion and math is it's god

Not God.  God is not real.

Like I said before, I think a new religion of "data processing" will be named sometime in not so distant future.

People already follow this religion but it has not been formally defined yet.

The bronze age religions will be studied by historians, psychologists, neuroscientists  but regular people will stop following these irrational myths.  For the same reason they abandoned other religions of the past.

All of this is part of evolution.

BTW, I think there are many other "religions": capitalism, money, socialism, liberalism, humanism all have similar function as theistic religions.



Interesting to talk about capitalism as a religion.

It's a good comparison. Capitalism is horrible, kills hundreds of thousands of people, gives everything to a small elite, like a religion.
And like a religion, the "followers" are indoctrinated to worship it without questioning it ever, and to chase the others...

Its sort of what its like. religion is like a legion of army. Moses didn't intend to create a religion in fact what he just did is free his people from Egypt. And before bringing them out, it means WAR.

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February 24, 2016, 08:39:48 PM
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Now there is your time machine.  You do yearly backup when you renew your driver's license.   When you die, they'll restore your brain to the year you specified on driver license application.  Or it could be a walk-in procedure, you walk in and do a refresh from 10 years ago.  

Sort of like the movie Groundhog Day.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VF5P7qLaEQ

Combined with human cloning they will be able to backup one's brain when he/she is born and then clone him/her, grow him/her, and upload the backup.  So people would never really die.

That should be doable within 20-40 years, if not sooner...

The hard part is the clone... that's gonna take another 20 years unless you want to be a baby

That's not because they can that they'll be let doing it. Be sure that the public doesn't agree with that. That's what technocrats call unethical.

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February 25, 2016, 09:48:51 AM
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Now there is your time machine.  You do yearly backup when you renew your driver's license.   When you die, they'll restore your brain to the year you specified on driver license application.  Or it could be a walk-in procedure, you walk in and do a refresh from 10 years ago.  

Sort of like the movie Groundhog Day.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VF5P7qLaEQ

Combined with human cloning they will be able to backup one's brain when he/she is born and then clone him/her, grow him/her, and upload the backup.  So people would never really die.

That should be doable within 20-40 years, if not sooner...

The hard part is the clone... that's gonna take another 20 years unless you want to be a baby

That's not because they can that they'll be let doing it. Be sure that the public doesn't agree with that. That's what technocrats call unethical.

It's not only unethical, it's also horribly biased way of doing things.

And you do support such a thing? As a Christian?

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February 25, 2016, 10:03:41 AM
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Now there is your time machine.  You do yearly backup when you renew your driver's license.   When you die, they'll restore your brain to the year you specified on driver license application.  Or it could be a walk-in procedure, you walk in and do a refresh from 10 years ago.  

Sort of like the movie Groundhog Day.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VF5P7qLaEQ

Combined with human cloning they will be able to backup one's brain when he/she is born and then clone him/her, grow him/her, and upload the backup.  So people would never really die.

That should be doable within 20-40 years, if not sooner...

The hard part is the clone... that's gonna take another 20 years unless you want to be a baby

That's not because they can that they'll be let doing it. Be sure that the public doesn't agree with that. That's what technocrats call unethical.

It's not only unethical, it's also horribly biased way of doing things.

And you do support such a thing? As a Christian?

Of course not ! I only support children made the genuine way, by two married people. That is the best way and should be the only one tolerated !

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February 25, 2016, 10:20:37 AM
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Now there is your time machine.  You do yearly backup when you renew your driver's license.   When you die, they'll restore your brain to the year you specified on driver license application.  Or it could be a walk-in procedure, you walk in and do a refresh from 10 years ago.  

Sort of like the movie Groundhog Day.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VF5P7qLaEQ

Combined with human cloning they will be able to backup one's brain when he/she is born and then clone him/her, grow him/her, and upload the backup.  So people would never really die.

That should be doable within 20-40 years, if not sooner...

The hard part is the clone... that's gonna take another 20 years unless you want to be a baby

That's not because they can that they'll be let doing it. Be sure that the public doesn't agree with that. That's what technocrats call unethical.

It's not only unethical, it's also horribly biased way of doing things.

And you do support such a thing? As a Christian?

Of course not ! I only support children made the genuine way, by two married people. That is the best way and should be the only one tolerated !

Well, finally something we agree on! ^^

Though probably not for the good reasons.
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February 25, 2016, 11:20:37 AM
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Of course not ! I only support children made the genuine way, by two married people. That is the best way and should be the only one tolerated !

That's right.

Any other way of acting will kill biodiversity and prevent nature from doing its way...
Look at "welcome to Gattaka"!

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February 25, 2016, 11:27:46 AM
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Now there is your time machine.  You do yearly backup when you renew your driver's license.   When you die, they'll restore your brain to the year you specified on driver license application.  Or it could be a walk-in procedure, you walk in and do a refresh from 10 years ago.  

Sort of like the movie Groundhog Day.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VF5P7qLaEQ

Combined with human cloning they will be able to backup one's brain when he/she is born and then clone him/her, grow him/her, and upload the backup.  So people would never really die.

That should be doable within 20-40 years, if not sooner...

The hard part is the clone... that's gonna take another 20 years unless you want to be a baby

That's not because they can that they'll be let doing it. Be sure that the public doesn't agree with that. That's what technocrats call unethical.

It's not only unethical, it's also horribly biased way of doing things.

And you do support such a thing? As a Christian?

Of course not ! I only support children made the genuine way, by two married people. That is the best way and should be the only one tolerated !

So any other people that are having children and are not married should be stoned? And their children as well? Is that what you're saying?

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February 25, 2016, 11:52:19 AM
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So any other people that are having children and are not married should be stoned? And their children as well? Is that what you're saying?

OH GOD!

I didn't pay attention to the married part when I gave my approval xD
Sorry I meant that children should only be made naturally from a man and a woman that's all xD

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February 25, 2016, 03:25:17 PM
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So any other people that are having children and are not married should be stoned? And their children as well? Is that what you're saying?

OH GOD!

I didn't pay attention to the married part when I gave my approval xD
Sorry I meant that children should only be made naturally from a man and a woman that's all xD

Well that's a relief since it's the only way science knows how to make a child...


They haven't quite figured out how to make a baby from 2 men or 2 women (yet)
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February 25, 2016, 07:38:35 PM
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Now there is your time machine.  You do yearly backup when you renew your driver's license.   When you die, they'll restore your brain to the year you specified on driver license application.  Or it could be a walk-in procedure, you walk in and do a refresh from 10 years ago. 

Sort of like the movie Groundhog Day.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VF5P7qLaEQ

Combined with human cloning they will be able to backup one's brain when he/she is born and then clone him/her, grow him/her, and upload the backup.  So people would never really die.

That should be doable within 20-40 years, if not sooner...

The hard part is the clone... that's gonna take another 20 years unless you want to be a baby

40 years? Are you guessing or have you read Kurzweil's book about the singularity?

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February 25, 2016, 07:41:44 PM
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Now there is your time machine.  You do yearly backup when you renew your driver's license.   When you die, they'll restore your brain to the year you specified on driver license application.  Or it could be a walk-in procedure, you walk in and do a refresh from 10 years ago.  

Sort of like the movie Groundhog Day.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VF5P7qLaEQ

Combined with human cloning they will be able to backup one's brain when he/she is born and then clone him/her, grow him/her, and upload the backup.  So people would never really die.

That should be doable within 20-40 years, if not sooner...

The hard part is the clone... that's gonna take another 20 years unless you want to be a baby

40 years? Are you guessing or have you read Kurzweil's book about the singularity?

Just an educated guess based on the progress of the current research

But then again, I thought we'd have flying cars too
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February 25, 2016, 07:43:57 PM
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Now there is your time machine.  You do yearly backup when you renew your driver's license.   When you die, they'll restore your brain to the year you specified on driver license application.  Or it could be a walk-in procedure, you walk in and do a refresh from 10 years ago.  

Sort of like the movie Groundhog Day.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VF5P7qLaEQ

Combined with human cloning they will be able to backup one's brain when he/she is born and then clone him/her, grow him/her, and upload the backup.  So people would never really die.

That should be doable within 20-40 years, if not sooner...

The hard part is the clone... that's gonna take another 20 years unless you want to be a baby

40 years? Are you guessing or have you read Kurzweil's book about the singularity?

Just an educated guess based on the progress of the current research

But then again, I thought we'd have flying cars too

Actually I think there are flying care - it's just that they're expensive.
Even so, I think many possible discoveries haven't been invented/revealed because of financial interests in the world. Which is sad.

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February 26, 2016, 12:56:02 AM
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Actually I think there are flying care - it's just that they're expensive.
Even so, I think many possible discoveries haven't been invented/revealed because of financial interests in the world. Which is sad.

Flying cars are a different story... I heard there was one manufacturer that could make them for ~$30k, but the gov wouldn't let them build it

I don't really want flying cars anyway... people cant drive, and i don't want them flying into my house... navigation would have to be fully automated, and require regular maintenance so they don't fall out of the sky, etc... flying cars are more trouble than they are worth
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February 26, 2016, 01:08:06 AM
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Actually I think there are flying care - it's just that they're expensive.
Even so, I think many possible discoveries haven't been invented/revealed because of financial interests in the world. Which is sad.

Flying cars are a different story... I heard there was one manufacturer that could make them for ~$30k, but the gov wouldn't let them build it

I don't really want flying cars anyway... people cant drive, and i don't want them flying into my house... navigation would have to be fully automated, and require regular maintenance so they don't fall out of the sky, etc... flying cars are more trouble than they are worth

I'm waiting for the flying speeders. No more losing traction in tight corners.

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