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So any other people that are having children and are not married should be stoned? And their children as well? Is that what you're saying?
OH GOD! I didn't pay attention to the married part when I gave my approval xD Sorry I meant that children should only be made naturally from a man and a woman that's all xD Well that's a relief since it's the only way science knows how to make a child... They haven't quite figured out how to make a baby from 2 men or 2 women (yet) Hmm... Technically you can make humans through the sperm and the ovules, without involving the man and the woman in any way but in taking their seeds.
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February 26, 2016, 10:25:35 AM |
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Now there is your time machine. You do yearly backup when you renew your driver's license. When you die, they'll restore your brain to the year you specified on driver license application. Or it could be a walk-in procedure, you walk in and do a refresh from 10 years ago. Sort of like the movie Groundhog Day. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VF5P7qLaEQCombined with human cloning they will be able to backup one's brain when he/she is born and then clone him/her, grow him/her, and upload the backup. So people would never really die. That should be doable within 20-40 years, if not sooner... The hard part is the clone... that's gonna take another 20 years unless you want to be a baby 40 years? Are you guessing or have you read Kurzweil's book about the singularity? Just an educated guess based on the progress of the current research But then again, I thought we'd have flying cars too We've got flying cars already. But nobody wants or need them. For the cloning part, I'd say much more than that especially because there no real use to it. We still can't implement the life experience, the thoughts, and we will probably never be able to do so. Hence a clone would be a totally different person.
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Now there is your time machine. You do yearly backup when you renew your driver's license. When you die, they'll restore your brain to the year you specified on driver license application. Or it could be a walk-in procedure, you walk in and do a refresh from 10 years ago. Sort of like the movie Groundhog Day. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VF5P7qLaEQCombined with human cloning they will be able to backup one's brain when he/she is born and then clone him/her, grow him/her, and upload the backup. So people would never really die. That should be doable within 20-40 years, if not sooner... The hard part is the clone... that's gonna take another 20 years unless you want to be a baby 40 years? Are you guessing or have you read Kurzweil's book about the singularity? Just an educated guess based on the progress of the current research But then again, I thought we'd have flying cars too We've got flying cars already. But nobody wants or need them. For the cloning part, I'd say much more than that especially because there no real use to it. We still can't implement the life experience, the thoughts, and we will probably never be able to do so. Hence a clone would be a totally different person. Hmm, that brings another question: Is talent something that is stored in the brain at birth? Or just a predisposition in the brain, that if exercised makes a person an arts or math genius. I'm sure you can copy the memory, but would your brain develop the same way if you were cloned? Pregnancy probably influences the brain development to some degree, so maybe you will never be able to clone humans exactly. Unless technology is developed to run pregnancy in a controlled environment, even then extra care would have to be taken to duplicate the subjects exactly. It is like if you take two seemingly identical seeds and plant them, it is hard to get 100% identical plants. One might get more nutrients, more water, more sunlight, less wind, no obstructions in soil etc. Human development is several magnitudes more complicated than plant development.
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February 26, 2016, 01:34:42 PM |
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Now there is your time machine. You do yearly backup when you renew your driver's license. When you die, they'll restore your brain to the year you specified on driver license application. Or it could be a walk-in procedure, you walk in and do a refresh from 10 years ago. Sort of like the movie Groundhog Day. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VF5P7qLaEQCombined with human cloning they will be able to backup one's brain when he/she is born and then clone him/her, grow him/her, and upload the backup. So people would never really die. That should be doable within 20-40 years, if not sooner... The hard part is the clone... that's gonna take another 20 years unless you want to be a baby 40 years? Are you guessing or have you read Kurzweil's book about the singularity? Just an educated guess based on the progress of the current research But then again, I thought we'd have flying cars too We've got flying cars already. But nobody wants or need them. For the cloning part, I'd say much more than that especially because there no real use to it. We still can't implement the life experience, the thoughts, and we will probably never be able to do so. Hence a clone would be a totally different person. Hmm, that brings another question: Is talent something that is stored in the brain at birth? Or just a predisposition in the brain, that if exercised makes a person an arts or math genius. I'm sure you can copy the memory, but would your brain develop the same way if you were cloned? Pregnancy probably influences the brain development to some degree, so maybe you will never be able to clone humans exactly. Unless technology is developed to run pregnancy in a controlled environment, even then extra care would have to be taken to duplicate the subjects exactly. It is like if you take two seemingly identical seeds and plant them, it is hard to get 100% identical plants. One might get more nutrients, more water, more sunlight, less wind, no obstructions in soil etc. Human development is several magnitudes more complicated than plant development. I don't see how you could copy the memory to be honest :/ And you wouldn't be able to copy the experience! Which would mean that by having a younger brain, you would also lose most of what you've learned!!!
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February 27, 2016, 12:33:26 AM |
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Now there is your time machine. You do yearly backup when you renew your driver's license. When you die, they'll restore your brain to the year you specified on driver license application. Or it could be a walk-in procedure, you walk in and do a refresh from 10 years ago. Sort of like the movie Groundhog Day. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VF5P7qLaEQCombined with human cloning they will be able to backup one's brain when he/she is born and then clone him/her, grow him/her, and upload the backup. So people would never really die. That should be doable within 20-40 years, if not sooner... The hard part is the clone... that's gonna take another 20 years unless you want to be a baby 40 years? Are you guessing or have you read Kurzweil's book about the singularity? Just an educated guess based on the progress of the current research But then again, I thought we'd have flying cars too We've got flying cars already. But nobody wants or need them. For the cloning part, I'd say much more than that especially because there no real use to it. We still can't implement the life experience, the thoughts, and we will probably never be able to do so. Hence a clone would be a totally different person. Hmm, that brings another question: Is talent something that is stored in the brain at birth? Or just a predisposition in the brain, that if exercised makes a person an arts or math genius. I'm sure you can copy the memory, but would your brain develop the same way if you were cloned? Pregnancy probably influences the brain development to some degree, so maybe you will never be able to clone humans exactly. Unless technology is developed to run pregnancy in a controlled environment, even then extra care would have to be taken to duplicate the subjects exactly. It is like if you take two seemingly identical seeds and plant them, it is hard to get 100% identical plants. One might get more nutrients, more water, more sunlight, less wind, no obstructions in soil etc. Human development is several magnitudes more complicated than plant development. I don't see how you could copy the memory to be honest :/ And you wouldn't be able to copy the experience! Which would mean that by having a younger brain, you would also lose most of what you've learned!!! The same way you're copying programs, apps, registry files or system files from one hard drive to another.
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February 29, 2016, 10:10:06 AM |
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Now there is your time machine. You do yearly backup when you renew your driver's license. When you die, they'll restore your brain to the year you specified on driver license application. Or it could be a walk-in procedure, you walk in and do a refresh from 10 years ago. Sort of like the movie Groundhog Day. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VF5P7qLaEQCombined with human cloning they will be able to backup one's brain when he/she is born and then clone him/her, grow him/her, and upload the backup. So people would never really die. That should be doable within 20-40 years, if not sooner... The hard part is the clone... that's gonna take another 20 years unless you want to be a baby 40 years? Are you guessing or have you read Kurzweil's book about the singularity? Just an educated guess based on the progress of the current research But then again, I thought we'd have flying cars too We've got flying cars already. But nobody wants or need them. For the cloning part, I'd say much more than that especially because there no real use to it. We still can't implement the life experience, the thoughts, and we will probably never be able to do so. Hence a clone would be a totally different person. Hmm, that brings another question: Is talent something that is stored in the brain at birth? Or just a predisposition in the brain, that if exercised makes a person an arts or math genius. I'm sure you can copy the memory, but would your brain develop the same way if you were cloned? Pregnancy probably influences the brain development to some degree, so maybe you will never be able to clone humans exactly. Unless technology is developed to run pregnancy in a controlled environment, even then extra care would have to be taken to duplicate the subjects exactly. It is like if you take two seemingly identical seeds and plant them, it is hard to get 100% identical plants. One might get more nutrients, more water, more sunlight, less wind, no obstructions in soil etc. Human development is several magnitudes more complicated than plant development. I don't see how you could copy the memory to be honest :/ And you wouldn't be able to copy the experience! Which would mean that by having a younger brain, you would also lose most of what you've learned!!! The same way you're copying programs, apps, registry files or system files from one hard drive to another. Yeah but you know how to copy them because you know how to store the data. Do we know how our brain stores data?
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February 29, 2016, 10:41:10 AM |
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Funny thing and consequence of creating clones would be that we became gods.
That would close the mouth of the religious freaks!
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February 29, 2016, 01:17:01 PM |
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Now there is your time machine. You do yearly backup when you renew your driver's license. When you die, they'll restore your brain to the year you specified on driver license application. Or it could be a walk-in procedure, you walk in and do a refresh from 10 years ago. Sort of like the movie Groundhog Day. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VF5P7qLaEQCombined with human cloning they will be able to backup one's brain when he/she is born and then clone him/her, grow him/her, and upload the backup. So people would never really die. That should be doable within 20-40 years, if not sooner... The hard part is the clone... that's gonna take another 20 years unless you want to be a baby 40 years? Are you guessing or have you read Kurzweil's book about the singularity? Just an educated guess based on the progress of the current research But then again, I thought we'd have flying cars too We've got flying cars already. But nobody wants or need them. For the cloning part, I'd say much more than that especially because there no real use to it. We still can't implement the life experience, the thoughts, and we will probably never be able to do so. Hence a clone would be a totally different person. Hmm, that brings another question: Is talent something that is stored in the brain at birth? Or just a predisposition in the brain, that if exercised makes a person an arts or math genius. I'm sure you can copy the memory, but would your brain develop the same way if you were cloned? Pregnancy probably influences the brain development to some degree, so maybe you will never be able to clone humans exactly. Unless technology is developed to run pregnancy in a controlled environment, even then extra care would have to be taken to duplicate the subjects exactly. It is like if you take two seemingly identical seeds and plant them, it is hard to get 100% identical plants. One might get more nutrients, more water, more sunlight, less wind, no obstructions in soil etc. Human development is several magnitudes more complicated than plant development. I don't see how you could copy the memory to be honest :/ And you wouldn't be able to copy the experience! Which would mean that by having a younger brain, you would also lose most of what you've learned!!! The same way you're copying programs, apps, registry files or system files from one hard drive to another. Yeah but you know how to copy them because you know how to store the data. Do we know how our brain stores data? We are working on it... ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Brain_Projecthttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BRAIN_Initiative
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Whaou, impressive. It would be something to be able to clone yourself completely... But what about experience and knowledge? Is it only a question of neuronal connexions? And what if you clone yourself? What will happen then seeing another you? And if you kill your other self? Will it be a suicide or a murder? ^^
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February 29, 2016, 03:17:34 PM |
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Whaou, impressive. It would be something to be able to clone yourself completely... But what about experience and knowledge? Is it only a question of neuronal connexions? And what if you clone yourself? What will happen then seeing another you? And if you kill your other self? Will it be a suicide or a murder? ^^ I think what is going to happen is that human mind will "evolve" very rapidly once we develop technology to backup/restore human brain complexity. Challenge now is to map neural complexity into a data model. Once this can be stored in some sort of model, the next step would be to first, make a single neural connection on demand. Once you can do that, the stored model can be used to re-generate the neural connections you have in your brain right now. And add more connections as desired. The regenerative brain technology will allow for rapid expansion of brain capacity. Imagine having brains of 1000s of people, without changing the size of your physical brain. It will completely change how these new specie of humans will view the world. We'll be viewed as a single threaded DOS programs. Neanderthals if you like. Now imagine these 'Homo Turing" humans working on new science and technologies. They will be able to advance human knowledge to completely unimaginable level. Average kids in kindergarten will be smarter than Newton and Einstein combined. It might go the other way, we'll abandon carbon based forms and go straight to silicon.
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What is that topic's purpose? To show a religion bad or unuseful and inconsistent?
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---------------------- Crazy shit Bible says ----------------------
Kings 6:29 - cannibalism Judges 11:29-40 - human sacrifice Leviticus 25:44 - slavery Deuteronomy 13:12-15 - genocide Leviticus 10:6 - you will die if you rip your clothes Leviticus 19:19 - breeding cattle is illegal Leviticus 21 - some bat crazy rules for priests, do not fuck young boys should be somewhere there.... Leviticus 20:10 - killing of adulterers Leviticus 20:9 - killing children who dishonor mother or father Leviticus 24:16 - stoning people if they say God's name Deuteronomy 28:53 - more cannibalism Genesis 19:8 - prostituting your virgin daughters Leviticus 19:19 - not mixing two kinds of material for clothing :-) Deuteronomy 22:20-21 - more stoning for not being a virgin Exodus 31:14-15 - killing of people who work on Sabbath Deuteronomy 25:11-12 - cutting off hands Deuteronomy 23:1 - you'll not go to heaven if your testicles are damaged Leviticus 19:27 - no haircuts of any kind Leviticus 19:28 - no tattoos, or else Leviticus 11:7-8 - eating pork is forbidden Matthew 5:29 - plucking out eyes Matthew 5:30 - cutting off hands Matthew 10:34 - waging wars by a sword Corinthians 14:34-35 - women should be quiet and obey Mark 10:11-12 - only marry once otherwise check Leviticus 20:10 for remedy Luke 19:26-2 - genocide Romans 1:20-32 - killing sinners Revelation 2:5 - more killing Revelation 2:23 - killing children Psalm 137:9 - killing babies Crazy things Bible says, #1: ---------------------------- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrWslruLvPoCrazy things Bible says, #2: ---------------------------- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tT0TXzeUbAECrazy things Bible says, #3: ---------------------------- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkl_PefewXc&index=3&list=PLlWVv7VJx45a57Qu74jPvikH78wleNTmdCrazy things Bible says, #4: ---------------------------- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adzi_XbxcPECrazy things Bible says, #5: ---------------------------- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6cb0GNc1WY.... -------------------------- Crazy shit Christians say --------------------------
Pat Robertson: Quit Your Job Over Voodoo doll: --------------------------------------------- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X65odgRN6FMWhat our Christian, bitcointalk members said: ------------------------------------------- ... You misunderstand: God created the angels, Jesus was one of them, he sent Jesus to Earth, we crucified him.
wow what a compilation of bible verses you're a excellent reader. i'm glad there are some good readers in this forum ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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March 10, 2016, 10:56:20 AM |
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What an irrevent wording you use! You may don't believe in christianity but it doesn't give you right to insult. I think you don't have anything to believe
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March 10, 2016, 01:10:43 PM |
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wow what a compilation of bible verses you're a excellent reader. i'm glad there are some good readers in this forum ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Lol. You don't seriously think he really read and copied those quotes from the bible? It wasn't that! It was much easier. He just typed "incredible shit the bible says" on Google ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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What an irrevent wording you use! You may don't believe in christianity but it doesn't give you right to insult. I think you don't have anything to believe Of course it does. Especially when a belief is ridiculous and harmful to others. Not only we have the right to insult religion, it is our duty to expose the bullshit religion preaches. Check your fucking calendar, what year does it say?
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March 10, 2016, 06:46:22 PM |
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What an irrevent wording you use! You may don't believe in christianity but it doesn't give you right to insult. I think you don't have anything to believe Of course it does. Especially when a belief is ridiculous and harmful to others. Not only we have the right to insult religion, it is our duty to expose the bullshit religion preaches. Check your fucking calendar, what year does it say? I don't care when! I care what you say about. You never can insult what people believe in. You may not believe in same way. Possible! You have not to accept. Ofcoutse! But never! Never you can insult. Do atheists build the peace on world? You have, nothing to be afraid of. At, the least a christian has a God to be afraid of being judged by when does a sin or, something bad.
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March 10, 2016, 06:54:14 PM |
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What an irrevent wording you use! You may don't believe in christianity but it doesn't give you right to insult. I think you don't have anything to believe Of course it does. Especially when a belief is ridiculous and harmful to others. Not only we have the right to insult religion, it is our duty to expose the bullshit religion preaches. Check your fucking calendar, what year does it say? I don't care when! I care what you say about. You never can insult what people believe in. You may not believe in same way. Possible! You have not to accept. Ofcoutse! But never! Never you can insult. Do atheists build the peace on world? You have, nothing to be afraid of. At, the least a christian has a God to be afraid of being judged by when does a sin or, something bad. First, the man tried to sell his daughter's virginity in the magazine named, Christianity Today... so it is relevant... Atheists are the only ones building peace... religions only know war, genocide, murder, pillaging, rape, slavery, burning witches, etc... Know thyself ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fpbs.twimg.com%2Fmedia%2FCcG073AXIAEAk1b.jpg%3Asmall&t=665&c=ZYTUNYTPId_Vcw) The ad is on the left titled "Son-in-Law"
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What an irrevent wording you use! You may don't believe in christianity but it doesn't give you right to insult. I think you don't have anything to believe Of course it does. Especially when a belief is ridiculous and harmful to others. Not only we have the right to insult religion, it is our duty to expose the bullshit religion preaches. Check your fucking calendar, what year does it say? I don't care when! I care what you say about. You never can insult what people believe in. You may not believe in same way. Possible! You have not to accept. Ofcoutse! But never! Never you can insult. Do atheists build the peace on world? You have, nothing to be afraid of. At, the least a christian has a God to be afraid of being judged by when does a sin or, something bad. I try not to insult religious people. Read my posts. I insult the BS of the religion and what it does to people. Religions are harmful, and should be exposed for their bullshit. Utter nonsense. You can believe whatever you want. I don't care about that. Unicorns, flying horses, whatever, but when you marry 9 year olds, put down women, kill gays, force non-Muslims to pay extra tax, impose sharia law etc. I have a problem with that. You should have a problem with that too.
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March 11, 2016, 09:38:45 AM |
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What an irrevent wording you use! You may don't believe in christianity but it doesn't give you right to insult. I think you don't have anything to believe History gives us any right to insult and shit on Christians. Christians destroyed our world for centuries. They've been the plague of Europe.
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