WAVES. Ultimate crypto-tokens blockchain platform.

[Twiggy Smile]

Cutting edge blockchain tech for real world

Wavesplatform has been started with a desire to bring existing blockchain tech to real world business applications. Blockchains can offer surprisingly a lot to the world even at the initial stage of their development. After all the technology is just 7 years old. I won’t mention closed blockchains solutions, which are becoming quite mature now. We’re focused on open blockchain technology, and want it to be implemented by real world business now.

Ability to create custom blockchains tokens and transact in them easily is the main emphasis of Wavesplatform. Any business should have an easy method to issue a custom token that can be used as an integral part of the business applications. Game currencies, crowdfunding, internal currencies, vouchers and loyalty reward programs — they all a gain a lot from using open blockchains. In effect network infrastructure and system audit is outsourced to an open blockchain. This is a new dimension for business.

Blockchain tech is hard to scale, it has some innate disadvantages that should be worked on to make it really usable beyond testing environment. Since we’re focused on blockchain tokens we need to make the infrastructure for them usable, scalable and flexible. Several approaches are pursued here by us — authenticated data structures, Bitcoin NG-like scalability enhancements, decentralized blockchain trading enhanced by centralized matching. Besides we’re considering several ways to realize blockchain-based logic functionality, in a more secure and scalable way than in existing systems. This will put us on the map of business-oriented smart contracts platforms.

Authenticated data structures are meant to solve the issues that emerge when you have many tokens and transactions on your blockchain. If a blockchain is used extensively it grows in size and the current balances ledger that the blockchain secures will be harder and harder to handle. Approach we pursue is based on the work of Leonid Reyzin, Dmitry Meshkov, Alexander Chepurnoy https://eprint.iacr.org/2016/994 . It is shown how to build effective Merkle tree — like data structures that beat all current best benchmarks. Scalability enhancements come from short crytpographic digest put on the blockchain, which allows network nodes not to store the state of the network tokens it does not want to track. Network nodes can store only the state of the tokens they have an interest in, for example the tokens they issued.

Authenticated data structures approach will be pursued further, with the goal of creating efficient lite clients, effective state storage, and enhanced system throughput. Blockchain pruning and working directly with authenticated state is our long term goal.

We want to create a high-load ready system. This is important from both practical and marketing point of view, network should be announced as ready for use in high load production systems.

Our technical vision of this consists in using Bitcoin NG approach, that provides a clear throughput increase through a soft-fork. New type of blocks is introduced, and the miners compete for the right to generate a succession of blocks between two anchor, key blocks. It uses the network infrastructure more efficiently allowing to increase throughput to potentially 1k transactions per second.

Blockchain tokens are essentially a new type of financial instruments, and, as such, there has to be a way to trade them efficiently and in a trustless way. Blockchain-based trading has an innate latency, centralized trading in crypto has serious security issues with all the crypto assets stored by exchanges in a centralized way. We try to have the best of the both worlds — Waves assets trading is done through centralized order matching but decentralized order settlement. You can have efficient and fast order execution without your money being stored by anybody but yourself. Users retain full control of their funds at all times, but can trade without significant latency anyway. This approach can be generalized beyond crypto, potentially traditional trading infrastructure could embrace it too.

Our research and development effort is directed towards real world applications of crypto technology. We develop the cutting edge tech to be usable NOW. Open blockchains is the future of humanity, and it’s high time to start using them in real life beyond simple money transfer applications.

Waves Wavesplatform Blockchain Bitcoin

Blog post - https://blog.wavesplatform.com/cutting-edge-blockchain-tech-for-real-world-d841fd56786e#.fszmk9wkf
Twitter - https://twitter.com/sasha35625/status/827545012745428992

[FlawLezZ]

Cutting edge blockchain tech for real world

Wavesplatform has been started with a desire to bring existing blockchain tech to real world business applications. Blockchains can offer surprisingly a lot to the world even at the initial stage of their development. After all the technology is just 7 years old. I won’t mention closed blockchains solutions, which are becoming quite mature now. We’re focused on open blockchain technology, and want it to be implemented by real world business now.

Ability to create custom blockchains tokens and transact in them easily is the main emphasis of Wavesplatform. Any business should have an easy method to issue a custom token that can be used as an integral part of the business applications. Game currencies, crowdfunding, internal currencies, vouchers and loyalty reward programs — they all a gain a lot from using open blockchains. In effect network infrastructure and system audit is outsourced to an open blockchain. This is a new dimension for business.

Blockchain tech is hard to scale, it has some innate disadvantages that should be worked on to make it really usable beyond testing environment. Since we’re focused on blockchain tokens we need to make the infrastructure for them usable, scalable and flexible. Several approaches are pursued here by us — authenticated data structures, Bitcoin NG-like scalability enhancements, decentralized blockchain trading enhanced by centralized matching. Besides we’re considering several ways to realize blockchain-based logic functionality, in a more secure and scalable way than in existing systems. This will put us on the map of business-oriented smart contracts platforms.

Authenticated data structures are meant to solve the issues that emerge when you have many tokens and transactions on your blockchain. If a blockchain is used extensively it grows in size and the current balances ledger that the blockchain secures will be harder and harder to handle. Approach we pursue is based on the work of Leonid Reyzin, Dmitry Meshkov, Alexander Chepurnoy https://eprint.iacr.org/2016/994 . It is shown how to build effective Merkle tree — like data structures that beat all current best benchmarks. Scalability enhancements come from short crytpographic digest put on the blockchain, which allows network nodes not to store the state of the network tokens it does not want to track. Network nodes can store only the state of the tokens they have an interest in, for example the tokens they issued.

Authenticated data structures approach will be pursued further, with the goal of creating efficient lite clients, effective state storage, and enhanced system throughput. Blockchain pruning and working directly with authenticated state is our long term goal.

We want to create a high-load ready system. This is important from both practical and marketing point of view, network should be announced as ready for use in high load production systems.

Our technical vision of this consists in using Bitcoin NG approach, that provides a clear throughput increase through a soft-fork. New type of blocks is introduced, and the miners compete for the right to generate a succession of blocks between two anchor, key blocks. It uses the network infrastructure more efficiently allowing to increase throughput to potentially 1k transactions per second.

Blockchain tokens are essentially a new type of financial instruments, and, as such, there has to be a way to trade them efficiently and in a trustless way. Blockchain-based trading has an innate latency, centralized trading in crypto has serious security issues with all the crypto assets stored by exchanges in a centralized way. We try to have the best of the both worlds — Waves assets trading is done through centralized order matching but decentralized order settlement. You can have efficient and fast order execution without your money being stored by anybody but yourself. Users retain full control of their funds at all times, but can trade without significant latency anyway. This approach can be generalized beyond crypto, potentially traditional trading infrastructure could embrace it too.

Our research and development effort is directed towards real world applications of crypto technology. We develop the cutting edge tech to be usable NOW. Open blockchains is the future of humanity, and it’s high time to start using them in real life beyond simple money transfer applications.

Waves Wavesplatform Blockchain Bitcoin

Blog post - https://blog.wavesplatform.com/cutting-edge-blockchain-tech-for-real-world-d841fd56786e#.fszmk9wkf
Twitter - https://twitter.com/sasha35625/status/827545012745428992

First WCT then CAT then DEX, THEn MYCELLIUM, FIAT GATWAYS, now you use  Bitcoin NG to keep the attention on wavesplatform ?
Instead of spamming articles can we see some progress ? or is it next week back to Tibix ? or maybe WCT or back to waiting for front end developer ?

You guys are all over the place and so much say say but nothing has been done so far
Yes i know we have lite wallet  and full node etc, but so does every other coin.

Just waiting till me sell order gets filled then am out..so am hoping you will show something soon because starting a post with Cutting edge blockchain tech for real world is BS since currently wavesplatform doesn't provide any Cutting edge features

[NutMasterTardd]

BTC goes up, alts go down for a while.. It is the same trading as always. Mycelium won't change anything obviously more time is needed, like the last few times we have hit 20k, then back up again, I'll wait for 25-27k and maybe then sell a few but it is easy to profit from.

WAVES value will go up extremely fast at some point over the next few months/years, it takes time..

[TC Alt 20]

BTC goes up, alts go down for a while.. It is the same trading as always. Mycelium won't change anything obviously more time is needed, like the last few times we have hit 20k, then back up again, I'll wait for 25-27k and maybe then sell a few but it is easy to profit from.

WAVES value will go up extremely fast at some point over the next few months/years, it takes time..

I don't think alts are actually crashing overall though, in terms of USD. While alts did crash from August through October 2017, alts overall are no longer downtrending when bitcoin pumps. Look at the charts here www.altindex.io. When bitcoin pumped in the beginning of the New Year, alts pumped massively (peaking briefly on Jan 5th). When Bitcoin recovered from Jan 12th to 21st, alts recovered as well. Even in the past 3 days with bitcoin pumping, the alts continue to climb.

The chart I'm referencing at www.altindex.io is the T&C 20 Index which is a market-cap index that includes approximately 20 highly traded medium to large altcoins (including Waves). Waves does seem to be struggling right now in terms of price; but, I'd say we are in the middle of an altcoin bull market overall. I think waves will gets its due attention within the next month or two.

[a29654]

BTC goes up, alts go down for a while.. It is the same trading as always. Mycelium won't change anything obviously more time is needed, like the last few times we have hit 20k, then back up again, I'll wait for 25-27k and maybe then sell a few but it is easy to profit from.

WAVES value will go up extremely fast at some point over the next few months/years, it takes time..

"Few months/years"

Might as well dump now and buy back in the next "few months/years"

[NutMasterTardd]

BTC goes up, alts go down for a while.. It is the same trading as always. Mycelium won't change anything obviously more time is needed, like the last few times we have hit 20k, then back up again, I'll wait for 25-27k and maybe then sell a few but it is easy to profit from.

WAVES value will go up extremely fast at some point over the next few months/years, it takes time..

"Few months/years"

Might as well dump now and buy back in the next "few months/years"

Anyone that has a problem with that is a wasteman, go and play other markets if you want faster money, my guess is price will start to head up over the next few days.

[St.Stephan]

Cutting edge blockchain tech for real world

Wavesplatform has been started with a desire to bring existing blockchain tech to real world business applications. Blockchains can offer surprisingly a lot to the world even at the initial stage of their development. After all the technology is just 7 years old. I won’t mention closed blockchains solutions, which are becoming quite mature now. We’re focused on open blockchain technology, and want it to be implemented by real world business now.

Ability to create custom blockchains tokens and transact in them easily is the main emphasis of Wavesplatform. Any business should have an easy method to issue a custom token that can be used as an integral part of the business applications. Game currencies, crowdfunding, internal currencies, vouchers and loyalty reward programs — they all a gain a lot from using open blockchains. In effect network infrastructure and system audit is outsourced to an open blockchain. This is a new dimension for business.

Blockchain tech is hard to scale, it has some innate disadvantages that should be worked on to make it really usable beyond testing environment. Since we’re focused on blockchain tokens we need to make the infrastructure for them usable, scalable and flexible. Several approaches are pursued here by us — authenticated data structures, Bitcoin NG-like scalability enhancements, decentralized blockchain trading enhanced by centralized matching. Besides we’re considering several ways to realize blockchain-based logic functionality, in a more secure and scalable way than in existing systems. This will put us on the map of business-oriented smart contracts platforms.

Authenticated data structures are meant to solve the issues that emerge when you have many tokens and transactions on your blockchain. If a blockchain is used extensively it grows in size and the current balances ledger that the blockchain secures will be harder and harder to handle. Approach we pursue is based on the work of Leonid Reyzin, Dmitry Meshkov, Alexander Chepurnoy https://eprint.iacr.org/2016/994 . It is shown how to build effective Merkle tree — like data structures that beat all current best benchmarks. Scalability enhancements come from short crytpographic digest put on the blockchain, which allows network nodes not to store the state of the network tokens it does not want to track. Network nodes can store only the state of the tokens they have an interest in, for example the tokens they issued.

Authenticated data structures approach will be pursued further, with the goal of creating efficient lite clients, effective state storage, and enhanced system throughput. Blockchain pruning and working directly with authenticated state is our long term goal.

We want to create a high-load ready system. This is important from both practical and marketing point of view, network should be announced as ready for use in high load production systems.

Our technical vision of this consists in using Bitcoin NG approach, that provides a clear throughput increase through a soft-fork. New type of blocks is introduced, and the miners compete for the right to generate a succession of blocks between two anchor, key blocks. It uses the network infrastructure more efficiently allowing to increase throughput to potentially 1k transactions per second.

Blockchain tokens are essentially a new type of financial instruments, and, as such, there has to be a way to trade them efficiently and in a trustless way. Blockchain-based trading has an innate latency, centralized trading in crypto has serious security issues with all the crypto assets stored by exchanges in a centralized way. We try to have the best of the both worlds — Waves assets trading is done through centralized order matching but decentralized order settlement. You can have efficient and fast order execution without your money being stored by anybody but yourself. Users retain full control of their funds at all times, but can trade without significant latency anyway. This approach can be generalized beyond crypto, potentially traditional trading infrastructure could embrace it too.

Our research and development effort is directed towards real world applications of crypto technology. We develop the cutting edge tech to be usable NOW. Open blockchains is the future of humanity, and it’s high time to start using them in real life beyond simple money transfer applications.

Waves Wavesplatform Blockchain Bitcoin

Blog post - https://blog.wavesplatform.com/cutting-edge-blockchain-tech-for-real-world-d841fd56786e#.fszmk9wkf
Twitter - https://twitter.com/sasha35625/status/827545012745428992

First WCT then CAT then DEX, THEn MYCELLIUM, FIAT GATWAYS, now you use  Bitcoin NG to keep the attention on wavesplatform ?
Instead of spamming articles can we see some progress ? or is it next week back to Tibix ? or maybe WCT or back to waiting for front end developer ?

You guys are all over the place and so much say say but nothing has been done so far
Yes i know we have lite wallet  and full node etc, but so does every other coin.

Just waiting till me sell order gets filled then am out..so am hoping you will show something soon because starting a post with Cutting edge blockchain tech for real world is BS since currently wavesplatform doesn't provide any Cutting edge features

Oh, but this is what waves specialized in, groovy #blockspeak blurbs that look good on Medium....

But seriously, user base is the key, you are right. And in Waves insider bubble world, this is not yet understood ....

[St.Stephan]

It is a shame about Mycelium. As I understand it, the CEO decided to sell the company and just left it behind.

Can Sasha buy Mycelium?

That would require selling a few lambos and daschas he bought with all the damn money he got from the ICO.

[St.Stephan]

first pay out for WCT.

"Next week we launch #BCT token on #wavesplatform. 35BTC will be distributed to current #WCT holders" - sasha

https://twitter.com/sasha35625/status/827055001449197568

Now they are promoting WCT (Tokens Community Waves), waves itself in the background, as I understand it. Exchange rate goes down, and it will continue to fall until the team will become reasonable. Incent that was released on the waves platform thus also is waiting for the collapse.

This is just worth clarifying as I think it misunderstands Waves.

Waves is a custom tokens platform. Ultimately there will be many, many tokens issued on Waves, and their value will be determined by the market, not by the WAVES token. They won't even be pegged to WAVES, in the way that many assets were pegged to NXT on the Nxt Asset Exchange, because they will trade directly against BTC and other currencies.

The market cap of a token is not dependent on the market cap of Waves. Successful independent tokens will drive the value of WAVES though.

WCT is one of many tokens, as is Incent. None is a replacement for the core WAVES token. An active token system is a pre-requisite for a valuable WAVES token.

yo Cassius where's that big earth shaking ANN you were bragging about two weeks ago? the one that was gonna raise Waves from the dead, etc etc?

I think you need to find the quote. I suspect you may have exaggerated something in your mind. It doesn't surprise me somehow.
Regardless, I don't think even you know why you're here any more. I won't waste more of your precious time answering your posts.

I post here to call bullshit on people like you. You called me a troll and said I would be proven wrong by the @big ANN that was in the works. Big Ann? Lol. Waves price has been tanking since you posted that,

At least I own what I post.

[bitcoin carpenter]

first pay out for WCT.

"Next week we launch #BCT token on #wavesplatform. 35BTC will be distributed to current #WCT holders" - sasha

https://twitter.com/sasha35625/status/827055001449197568

Now they are promoting WCT (Tokens Community Waves), waves itself in the background, as I understand it. Exchange rate goes down, and it will continue to fall until the team will become reasonable. Incent that was released on the waves platform thus also is waiting for the collapse.

This is just worth clarifying as I think it misunderstands Waves.

Waves is a custom tokens platform. Ultimately there will be many, many tokens issued on Waves, and their value will be determined by the market, not by the WAVES token. They won't even be pegged to WAVES, in the way that many assets were pegged to NXT on the Nxt Asset Exchange, because they will trade directly against BTC and other currencies.

The market cap of a token is not dependent on the market cap of Waves. Successful independent tokens will drive the value of WAVES though.

WCT is one of many tokens, as is Incent. None is a replacement for the core WAVES token. An active token system is a pre-requisite for a valuable WAVES token.

yo Cassius where's that big earth shaking ANN you were bragging about two weeks ago? the one that was gonna raise Waves from the dead, etc etc?

I think you need to find the quote. I suspect you may have exaggerated something in your mind. It doesn't surprise me somehow.
Regardless, I don't think even you know why you're here any more. I won't waste more of your precious time answering your posts.

I post here to call bullshit on people like you. You called me a troll and said I would be proven wrong by the @big ANN that was in the works. Big Ann? Lol. Waves price has been tanking since you posted that,

At least I own what I post.

If you own what you post, due some due diligence once and a while and back up your posts....  almost everything you comment on is a negative subjective bias.  We all know the schedule is months behind...  but you do things like accuse Sasha of buying lambos, and calling people out without referencing the posts you were talking about...

You really don't own up to what you post..

If you make your arguments more concise and stick to real arguments rather than name calling and false accusations of lambos people might take you more seriously.

[St.Stephan]

first pay out for WCT.

"Next week we launch #BCT token on #wavesplatform. 35BTC will be distributed to current #WCT holders" - sasha

https://twitter.com/sasha35625/status/827055001449197568

Now they are promoting WCT (Tokens Community Waves), waves itself in the background, as I understand it. Exchange rate goes down, and it will continue to fall until the team will become reasonable. Incent that was released on the waves platform thus also is waiting for the collapse.

This is just worth clarifying as I think it misunderstands Waves.

Waves is a custom tokens platform. Ultimately there will be many, many tokens issued on Waves, and their value will be determined by the market, not by the WAVES token. They won't even be pegged to WAVES, in the way that many assets were pegged to NXT on the Nxt Asset Exchange, because they will trade directly against BTC and other currencies.

The market cap of a token is not dependent on the market cap of Waves. Successful independent tokens will drive the value of WAVES though.

WCT is one of many tokens, as is Incent. None is a replacement for the core WAVES token. An active token system is a pre-requisite for a valuable WAVES token.

yo Cassius where's that big earth shaking ANN you were bragging about two weeks ago? the one that was gonna raise Waves from the dead, etc etc?

I think you need to find the quote. I suspect you may have exaggerated something in your mind. It doesn't surprise me somehow.
Regardless, I don't think even you know why you're here any more. I won't waste more of your precious time answering your posts.

I post here to call bullshit on people like you. You called me a troll and said I would be proven wrong by the @big ANN that was in the works. Big Ann? Lol. Waves price has been tanking since you posted that,

At least I own what I post.

If you own what you post, due some due diligence once and a while and back up your posts....  almost everything you comment on is a negative subjective bias.  We all know the schedule is months behind...  but you do things like accuse Sasha of buying lambos, and calling people out without referencing the posts you were talking about...

You really don't own up to what you post..

If you make your arguments more concise and stick to real arguments rather than name calling and false accusations of lambos people might take you more seriously.

Don't care how people take me. Sasha took 30,000 btc and is running this project into the ground. Maybe you fanboys should stop taking him so seriously?

As for Cassius, he knows damn well what he posted. Now he is being disingenuous. Typical Waves team behavior.

Concerning "real arguments", I have been posting relentlessly about 1) fiat gateways being bullshit  2) Mycellium partnership being bullshit  and 3) insider ICO's accepting Waves, then dumping them on original investors.

All three of these things are clear as day, indisputable. Your search for concreteness is misplaced. You are engaged in what Waves fanboys do best, attempting to kill the messenger.

[Cassius]

I think St. Stephan and CrowdFunder are the same person. They have the same writing style and sensibility. And they are always unrelentingly negative about Waves. Not just occasionally critical. Not balanced in any way. Just unrelentingly negative. I think this fellow was an ICO investor who had high hopes for a quick return and was kicked off slack early on for being critical. He has internalized that rage and become Waves top dedicated critic and troll. It is sad to see the kind of cynicism that springs up in one who feels such a sense of unrelieved victimhood.

Sorry Agatha Christie, you are wrong about me & Crowdfunder. You are to be forgiven, seeing as we are the only two persons on this thread who are not pathetic sycophants, sucking up to the Waves "team" (here's some tech! and here's some more tech! well not really, but hey! here's some photoshop!)

As for childhood issues, unresolved angst etc. not really. I have just been in this game a long time and i can see clear as day that these Wave people are running a ponzi. Insider trading, derivative ICO's where the raised funds get dumped on the investors at large . Seriously, how stupid and blind do you have to be - and for how long - to not see what is going on here?

Sasha promised fiat gateways in september, then october,  then december, then in two weeks; now it is pushing February and NADA. Nothing.

Instead "Twiggy Smile" gives you techie sounding updates, some chick strokes your balls on Waves Video once every few weeks, and you guys roll on the floor in orgasmic delirium,  rushing to your keyboards every now and then to proclaim what great tech, look what ethereum did, and other silly nonsense.

My involvement? Making money off you chumps while you type furiously about how unfair I am being. Maybe you should do a 180, and see who really has you bent over. Or maybe you are just enjoying it too much.

Haha, I wonder what you're going to do when the ANNs are made and it becomes clear what's actually going on. You're going to look so dumb.
My guess is that you'll just disappear like most trolls, maybe create another id and start trolling with another theme instead.

I've learned, rather late in the day, that it is never worth engaging trolls. Waves is behind the original schedule - bang to rights there - but this is a small, mean-spirited little man who won't ever accept that anything good is going on with the project but will stick around and spread misinformation and hatred anyway. It's the same in the other threads he's part of, including Komodo (which, as it happens, I'm not involved in, cool project though it is. I was asked to be a while back and am still on the website, but aside from making a few references to it into articles I haven't time to be active there).

This post is for the benefit of anyone who might have been misled by his claims about the 'big ANN' he's talking about. I've dug out the post in question. Despite what Stephen says about Lambos and Ponzis, which are obvious and outright lies, there is a very skilled team of coders at work in Moscow. Tidex is launching, DEX backend is tested, gateways are being created - BTC first, then EUR. All these pieces are going to fit together quite nicely into a comprehensive and self-contained ecosystem that is not reliant on or beholden to anyone else, though is open to all. (Sorry, there's no single big ANN that will make the price go 1,000% overnight.) Classic troll MO, and note he couldn't be bothered to find the post himself. More convenient that way.

Naturally, this won't be enough for Lord Trollmore and he'll twist it into something that suits his own narrative. Be amused, be sorry for him, but if you believe anything that comes out of his keyboard you probably deserve him.

Going to grab a beer and watch some TV now. Happy trolling and g'night.

[motodor]

the price of Waves is crashed so much~

All right ... then we will buy cheaper, very good ...

[St.Stephan]

I think St. Stephan and CrowdFunder are the same person. They have the same writing style and sensibility. And they are always unrelentingly negative about Waves. Not just occasionally critical. Not balanced in any way. Just unrelentingly negative. I think this fellow was an ICO investor who had high hopes for a quick return and was kicked off slack early on for being critical. He has internalized that rage and become Waves top dedicated critic and troll. It is sad to see the kind of cynicism that springs up in one who feels such a sense of unrelieved victimhood.

Sorry Agatha Christie, you are wrong about me & Crowdfunder. You are to be forgiven, seeing as we are the only two persons on this thread who are not pathetic sycophants, sucking up to the Waves "team" (here's some tech! and here's some more tech! well not really, but hey! here's some photoshop!)

As for childhood issues, unresolved angst etc. not really. I have just been in this game a long time and i can see clear as day that these Wave people are running a ponzi. Insider trading, derivative ICO's where the raised funds get dumped on the investors at large . Seriously, how stupid and blind do you have to be - and for how long - to not see what is going on here?

Sasha promised fiat gateways in september, then october,  then december, then in two weeks; now it is pushing February and NADA. Nothing.

Instead "Twiggy Smile" gives you techie sounding updates, some chick strokes your balls on Waves Video once every few weeks, and you guys roll on the floor in orgasmic delirium,  rushing to your keyboards every now and then to proclaim what great tech, look what ethereum did, and other silly nonsense.

My involvement? Making money off you chumps while you type furiously about how unfair I am being. Maybe you should do a 180, and see who really has you bent over. Or maybe you are just enjoying it too much.

Haha, I wonder what you're going to do when the ANNs are made and it becomes clear what's actually going on. You're going to look so dumb.
My guess is that you'll just disappear like most trolls, maybe create another id and start trolling with another theme instead.

I've learned, rather late in the day, that it is never worth engaging trolls. Waves is behind the original schedule - bang to rights there - but this is a small, mean-spirited little man who won't ever accept that anything good is going on with the project but will stick around and spread misinformation and hatred anyway. It's the same in the other threads he's part of, including Komodo (which, as it happens, I'm not involved in, cool project though it is. I was asked to be a while back and am still on the website, but aside from making a few references to it into articles I haven't time to be active there).

This post is for the benefit of anyone who might have been misled by his claims about the 'big ANN' he's talking about. I've dug out the post in question. Despite what Stephen says about Lambos and Ponzis, which are obvious and outright lies, there is a very skilled team of coders at work in Moscow. Tidex is launching, DEX backend is tested, gateways are being created - BTC first, then EUR. All these pieces are going to fit together quite nicely into a comprehensive and self-contained ecosystem that is not reliant on or beholden to anyone else, though is open to all. (Sorry, there's no single big ANN that will make the price go 1,000% overnight.) Classic troll MO, and note he couldn't be bothered to find the post himself. More convenient that way.

Naturally, this won't be enough for Lord Trollmore and he'll twist it into something that suits his own narrative. Be amused, be sorry for him, but if you believe anything that comes out of his keyboard you probably deserve him.

Going to grab a beer and watch some TV now. Happy trolling and g'night.

No Cassius, I could not be bothered to dig up a post that you made, then subsequently denied making. If I had not called you on it, you would have gone on denying you ever said it.

That much is clear. What is still unclear is the "Big Ann's" that were going to make me eat my words - - nothing but silence. No fiat gateways. No Mycellium partnership. No Polo.

You enjoy your beer and TV. I am sure you got a healthy slice of that 30,000 btc so that's not a problem for you. Nor the fact that Waves continues to tank because you guys are delivering nothing. Lord forbid your easy weekend should be disturbed by any of that.

Nice job distancing yourself from Komodo by the way. Another project where you took the money and ran. Once BTCD was a bright spot in the crypto landscape. People believed in you. Back in the day. But hey, idealism and principles and commitment all fade eventually amahrite? Enjoy that beer and tv.

[CrowdFunder]

WAVES Ultimate crypto-tokens blockchain platform.

'nough said.

[bitcoin carpenter]

first pay out for WCT.

"Next week we launch #BCT token on #wavesplatform. 35BTC will be distributed to current #WCT holders" - sasha

https://twitter.com/sasha35625/status/827055001449197568

Now they are promoting WCT (Tokens Community Waves), waves itself in the background, as I understand it. Exchange rate goes down, and it will continue to fall until the team will become reasonable. Incent that was released on the waves platform thus also is waiting for the collapse.

This is just worth clarifying as I think it misunderstands Waves.

Waves is a custom tokens platform. Ultimately there will be many, many tokens issued on Waves, and their value will be determined by the market, not by the WAVES token. They won't even be pegged to WAVES, in the way that many assets were pegged to NXT on the Nxt Asset Exchange, because they will trade directly against BTC and other currencies.

The market cap of a token is not dependent on the market cap of Waves. Successful independent tokens will drive the value of WAVES though.

WCT is one of many tokens, as is Incent. None is a replacement for the core WAVES token. An active token system is a pre-requisite for a valuable WAVES token.

yo Cassius where's that big earth shaking ANN you were bragging about two weeks ago? the one that was gonna raise Waves from the dead, etc etc?

I think you need to find the quote. I suspect you may have exaggerated something in your mind. It doesn't surprise me somehow.
Regardless, I don't think even you know why you're here any more. I won't waste more of your precious time answering your posts.

I post here to call bullshit on people like you. You called me a troll and said I would be proven wrong by the @big ANN that was in the works. Big Ann? Lol. Waves price has been tanking since you posted that,

At least I own what I post.

If you own what you post, due some due diligence once and a while and back up your posts....  almost everything you comment on is a negative subjective bias.  We all know the schedule is months behind...  but you do things like accuse Sasha of buying lambos, and calling people out without referencing the posts you were talking about...

You really don't own up to what you post..

If you make your arguments more concise and stick to real arguments rather than name calling and false accusations of lambos people might take you more seriously.

Don't care how people take me. Sasha took 30,000 btc and is running this project into the ground. Maybe you fanboys should stop taking him so seriously?

As for Cassius, he knows damn well what he posted. Now he is being disingenuous. Typical Waves team behavior.

Concerning "real arguments", I have been posting relentlessly about 1) fiat gateways being bullshit  2) Mycellium partnership being bullshit  and 3) insider ICO's accepting Waves, then dumping them on original investors.

All three of these things are clear as day, indisputable. Your search for concreteness is misplaced. You are engaged in what Waves fanboys do best, attempting to kill the messenger.

Saving this post.

Will you admit your wrong once fiat gateways are in place, and  when incent and bankcoin global prove their worth.  Or will you just then move onto another thing to flame about...

Mycelium looks to be dead in The water at the moment, as it has been sold and is being reorganized.  You can't blame waves for that.

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BTC goes up, alts go down for a while.. It is the same trading as always. Mycelium won't change anything obviously more time is needed, like the last few times we have hit 20k, then back up again, I'll wait for 25-27k and maybe then sell a few but it is easy to profit from.

WAVES value will go up extremely fast at some point over the next few months/years, it takes time..

"Few months/years"

Might as well dump now and buy back in the next "few months/years"

Anyone that has a problem with that is a wasteman, go and play other markets if you want faster money, my guess is price will start to head up over the next few days.

Great guess
Based on what exactly?

[l8orre]

... Once BTCD was a bright spot in the crypto landscape.

it is called BitcoinDark you clueless moron.

[cloggedup]

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/open-blockchain-waves-targets-manufacturing-kickstarter-tokens-1604672

[yubit]

Waves listed - https://liqui.io/#/exchange/WAVES_BTC

Why WAVES transactions from/to LIQUI are as type 4 (asset) in blockexplorer?

http://wavesexplorer.com/address/3PGXEsSmmiDwWXWVLrGFQjKFpGWC9NvUX9e

Must be type 2, as I know.