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[swogerino]

I think we are early to judge who will be the strong favorite,even Marquez is showing that he is there,he just needs just a very little bit more time and he maybe winning his first race and once he does so it means that he will be fighting for the title too.I have not seen any race and tomorrow I am going to watch the race just to see how things have changed,there are people saying that he can win his first race tomorrow as today he was leading the sprint when he crashed out of nowhere,it means he does not feel that much comfortable with his new bike but once he gets ahead of it,he will be winning races and even Championships.

That's how you I can be wrong, yesterday I was still talking about Bagnaia falling behind, and then Martin drops out and Bagnaia wins.

For me personally, Marquez has passed his peak and he won't win any more world championship, races yes, championship no.

It was a brilliant race to watch and Marquez although in his only 4th race with Ducatti almost won it by overtaking Bagnaia twice (not successfully as he got wide) but it showed that even though he is in a client team and not the main one,he is racing with Gressini team and not the official Ducatti team he put a great pressure to Bagnaia who is a back to back Champion.

Martin got off with a crash which surprised everyone,he was normally breaking and I don't know what happened to him yet the thing that impressed me more is the come back of Marquez from fourth and far behind to almost winning the race in the last 5-6 laps,wonderful riding skills.

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[panjul07]

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What you expected happened today, although the battle that was presented was between Jorge Martin, Marquez and Pecco Bagnaia before Jorge Martin fell at the sixth corner. However, after Jorge Martin fell at the sixth corner with fifteen laps left in the race, the battle was only seen between Marquez and Bagnaia until the finish flag was raised.

When Martin was still leading and Marc was on 4th, I thought that it would not be hard for Marc to overtake Bezzecchi and there would be the most wanted battle.
Too bad Martin crashed before what I hoped come true, we might watch an epic battle between the best 3 riders.
By the way, with the result of today race make the competition become tougher because the gap between top riders in the standing is not that big.
Congrats to Marc for his first podium in the main race, hope to see more podium for him to make MotoGP more interesting to watch.

[swogerino]

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What you expected happened today, although the battle that was presented was between Jorge Martin, Marquez and Pecco Bagnaia before Jorge Martin fell at the sixth corner. However, after Jorge Martin fell at the sixth corner with fifteen laps left in the race, the battle was only seen between Marquez and Bagnaia until the finish flag was raised.

When Martin was still leading and Marc was on 4th, I thought that it would not be hard for Marc to overtake Bezzecchi and there would be the most wanted battle.
Too bad Martin crashed before what I hoped come true, we might watch an epic battle between the best 3 riders.
By the way, with the result of today race make the competition become tougher because the gap between top riders in the standing is not that big.
Congrats to Marc for his first podium in the main race, hope to see more podium for him to make MotoGP more interesting to watch.

He said in a declaration before yesterday sprint which he almost won as his first race for the season that the "knowing the bike and adapting to it phase is already over so I am all out in attack from now on" it really showed it on track,he just needed to be a bit more patient and to have chosen a better turn to try his overtakes once he saw that it was not working yet this was the race.

While I do praise Marquez as doing a great race let's not forget that Bagnaia a back to back World Champion showed us that under such heavy pressure he managed to show us that he broke his own lap record of the track with a wonderful 1.37.3 lap,the fastest of all race and he did it while in big pressure from Marquez.

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When Martin was still leading and Marc was on 4th, I thought that it would not be hard for Marc to overtake Bezzecchi and there would be the most wanted battle.
Too bad Martin crashed before what I hoped come true, we might watch an epic battle between the best 3 riders.
By the way, with the result of today race make the competition become tougher because the gap between top riders in the standing is not that big.
Congrats to Marc for his first podium in the main race, hope to see more podium for him to make MotoGP more interesting to watch.

After a long time without Marquez experiencing a podium in the premier class, today he again experienced a second podium after starting the race on the first grid in Jerez. I quite enjoyed the extraordinary race today because there were many people cheering near me when they saw Marquez's action in overtaking Bagnaia even though Bagnaia himself was able to immediately take back the leading position. And the next race will be at Le Mans France which is also a very good circuit so you can expect a much fiercer battle.

[karabiber]

There are new speculations around about Mercedes - Verstappen possibility and these are claimed to be strong ones this time.

According to the source named Sportskeeda Mercedes is preparing to offer a contract worth €150 million. The negotiations are likely to happen after the Miami Grand Prix.

Toto Wolff really wants to see Verstappen in his team. He thinks Verstappen is the best driver to fill Hamilton's seat. I agree with him but still have doubts about this signing.    It just feels like Verstappen wouldn't prefer Mercedes unless they give him the fastest car. At least for the 2025 season this signing doesn't look realistic to me. Maybe for the 2026 season it can make more sense.

Verstappen was born to race. Right now he prefers the team that gives him the best car and his successes are obvious. I don't think Max has anything to do with money, he's only, only focused on racing and unless Mercedes gives him a good car, he's not going to choose Mercedes. Before 2026, it is a fact that a car that can beat the Red Bull car will not be produced. That's why I think Max will continue his career at Red Bull until 2026, and if Aramco wants Max after buying Aston Martin, it could change the balance. 2026 will be very different for F1.

[Velvet78]

Verstappen is a driver who every team would like to sign. While there is a 'crisis' situation at Red Bull things might get really serious in time. They are trying to solve the problem before it gets bigger but it is difficult to say whether this will end for the benefit of them. Verstappen made some neutral comments on Wolff's interest in him recently.

For now I'm just expecting Verstappen to focus on his racing. The contract rumours might be fake as well. News sources like to use a topic for spreading fake news for a long time in the end. But if this turns out to be a similar thing to the Hamilton - Ferrari thing then everyone would be surprised. 

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It's interesting what happened this afternoon in Spain in the Moto GP.
victory for Bagnaia but Marc Marquez is coming, today he managed to fight until the last lap for the top step of the podium but he didn't succeed.

If he continues as he is doing he will soon be able to triumph.
Disaster for Martin, now the leaderboard is shorter and at the moment I don't feel like excluding Marquez.

Sad to see Pedrosa retired.

[swogerino]

It's interesting what happened this afternoon in Spain in the Moto GP.
victory for Bagnaia but Marc Marquez is coming, today he managed to fight until the last lap for the top step of the podium but he didn't succeed.

If he continues as he is doing he will soon be able to triumph.
Disaster for Martin, now the leaderboard is shorter and at the moment I don't feel like excluding Marquez.

Sad to see Pedrosa retired.

I was really surprised to see him racing again,last time I knew he quit MotoGp some years ago and I don't think I have confused myself as I was cheering for him when he was racing for Honda,sad that he never won a MotoGP title while he fully deserved it,anyway glad to see him racing again at his age which should be high now.

Also glad watching Valentino Rossi,the living legend of MotoGP owning a team and cheering for Bezzechi saying "vai Bezz".The race was beautiful and I think if Marquez would have chosen a different spot to overtake he may as well have won the race.The fact that he stopped in the last lap shows that he is happy with the 2nd place rather than pushing more than normal and risking going home with 0 points.

[alegotardo]

Verstappen is a driver who every team would like to sign. While there is a 'crisis' situation at Red Bull things might get really serious in time. They are trying to solve the problem before it gets bigger but it is difficult to say whether this will end for the benefit of them. Verstappen made some neutral comments on Wolff's interest in him recently.

For now I'm just expecting Verstappen to focus on his racing. The contract rumours might be fake as well. News sources like to use a topic for spreading fake news for a long time in the end. But if this turns out to be a similar thing to the Hamilton - Ferrari thing then everyone would be surprised. 

As for Vertappen's departure or not... we all know that the driver wants to drive for the team that has the best car and he certainly has that at Red Bull and no other known team can offer the same or anything better than what he has today.
However, we know that the car is only 50% of the recipe for success and the other 50% is completed by the driver's skill. And we also know that Verstappen is the best that currently exists and that there is no other equal or superior to him.

Furthermore, Verstappen himself has already clearly stated his demands in that in addition to wanting a fast car, he also wants a quiet and relaxed place to work, which is certainly something that Red Bull is try managing to provide. Verstappen is known to be interested in keeping important people in his team like Helmut Marko, he needs to stay at Red Bull to keep Verstappen happy, and that's not the only person. So, Max Verstappen's condition to continue at Red Bull depends on the certainty that these people will also continue.

[LTU_btc]

South Korea and Thailand have announced that they will apply to the FIA ​​to have a grand prix in their countries. An emissary will go to analyze the projects and decide on any candidature.

I hope it's not city circuits. South Korea had  their track on calendar over than decade ago. Are they going to use same track. Somehow it didn't stuck in my memory very well, I just remember it was in the middle of nowhere.

Nico Hülkenberg has already been announced by Kick Sauber F1 team for the 2025 season! 

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If it is true, Bottas and Zhou are both out of the team by the end of this season. One of their members has been decided by this signing but we don't know who Hülkenberg's teammate will be there.

Yeah, Hülkenberg might sign for Audi maybe later but at least for one season we will watch him at Kick Sauber. While there is an opening at Haas maybe we might see Bearman being given a chance, what do you think? 

We are all waiting for confirmation about Sainz signing Audi, so, these news a bit unexpected. But logical choice, experienced driver who can give feedback about car for new team. Maybe he can even get his first career podium here if things will go as planned.
BTW, there is some rumours from David Croft that Gasly is negotiating with Williams, while Zhou can go to Alpine.

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Thailand it was a city track for sure, for Korea I honestly don't know and I haven't read anything about it but it will probably be a city track.
This is now the fashion.

Edit: I just searched the internet and found that the intention is to do a street circuit in the city of Incheon.

It must be said that however some street circuits are not bad like the Arab one or the one in Baku, while others are terrible like Monaco or Valencia (fortunately removed)

[tokeweed]

Verstappen is a driver who every team would like to sign. While there is a 'crisis' situation at Red Bull things might get really serious in time. They are trying to solve the problem before it gets bigger but it is difficult to say whether this will end for the benefit of them. Verstappen made some neutral comments on Wolff's interest in him recently.

For now I'm just expecting Verstappen to focus on his racing. The contract rumours might be fake as well. News sources like to use a topic for spreading fake news for a long time in the end. But if this turns out to be a similar thing to the Hamilton - Ferrari thing then everyone would be surprised. 

Nah, it's just sports journos looking for attention.  They need to eat.  Lol.  Hamilton's contract with Ferrari is confirmed news.  I don't think anybody had a clue what was gonna happen..  Not even those sports journos who are spreading 'Verstappen to leave Red Bull' rumors.

Here's a hint to all you guys, if Marko leaves then Verstappen leaves.  If either Horner or Newey leaves then both guys leave.  :/  And guess who's more likely to leave...  Marko or Newey? 

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I was really surprised to see him racing again,last time I knew he quit MotoGp some years ago and I don't think I have confused myself as I was cheering for him when he was racing for Honda,sad that he never won a MotoGP title while he fully deserved it,anyway glad to see him racing again at his age which should be high now.

If what you mean is Pedrosa, he only exercised his wildcard quota this season and that happened at Jerez just like last season. So he (Pedrosa) is not returning to MotoGP but is just doing it for his team and KTM itself is also really helped by this because they can apply it to their riders' motorbikes this season so they can be more competitive.

Also glad watching Valentino Rossi,the living legend of MotoGP owning a team and cheering for Bezzechi saying "vai Bezz".The race was beautiful and I think if Marquez would have chosen a different spot to overtake he may as well have won the race.The fact that he stopped in the last lap shows that he is happy with the 2nd place rather than pushing more than normal and risking going home with 0 points.

Marquez is a rider who is very smart in taking advantage of the moment, because when he could potentially lose points by being too persistent, he prefers to secure points in second place for himself. So this can be said to be quite wise because 20 points is very useful for the championship this season. And in terms of winning, he can try again in the next race because this season is still very long and there are still many opportunities he can achieve with better targets.

[Distraction]

With all the stuff going on with Red Bull with the infighting, they could end up getting none of Horner, Newey and Verstappen.  :/  Newey is rumored to leave this year and that means Horner is free to leave.  So if the team can't get Verstappen a fast car then he could be tempted to leave for another team, most likely joining in with Wolff at Mercedes.

I think the team that ends up winning in all of the shennanigans will be Ferrari or whoever could get Horner and Newey.  Hopefully Ferrari...

This is the scariest possibility for Red Bull, yeah.    With all of these names' departure Red Bull would be caught off guard and it might take them even a long while to get their current strength back.

They say even retirement is an option for Newey now. I mean if he can't agree terms with any team then he might even think of retiring. I hope that doesn't happen soon. Newey is a great engineer and it is great to watch the cars he designs.    I also hope that it would be Ferrari to get Newey. I have missed those golden times of Ferrari a lot. With Newey's designs Ferrari can really be the number 1 team finally.

We are all waiting for confirmation about Sainz signing Audi, so, these news a bit unexpected. But logical choice, experienced driver who can give feedback about car for new team. Maybe he can even get his first career podium here if things will go as planned.
BTW, there is some rumours from David Croft that Gasly is negotiating with Williams, while Zhou can go to Alpine.

Sainz would be one of the luckiest signings for Audi considering how skilled driver he is.    About Gasly to Williams, there is another rumour like Kimi Antonelli could start his F1 career by taking Sargeant's seat.

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according to insiders the announcement of Adrian Nevwy's farewell will be made tomorrow, it was supposed to be today but it was delayed.

According to these insiders, the favorite for the hiring is Ferrari and he should work for the 2026 car.

So even if he signs this month with Ferrari he shouldn't be able to work for the 2025 car, I believe due to company secrecy contractual rules.

[alegotardo]

according to insiders the announcement of Adrian Nevwy's farewell will be made tomorrow, it was supposed to be today but it was delayed.

According to these insiders, the favorite for the hiring is Ferrari and he should work for the 2026 car.

So even if he signs this month with Ferrari he shouldn't be able to work for the 2025 car, I believe due to company secrecy contractual rules.

Yes, that exists...The current agreement between Red Bull and Newey runs until the end of 2025, however there is still a so-called grace period, which prevents the immediate hiring of employees from other teams.

And with Newey's early departure, a lot is expected to change in F1, as the engineer would be available to work fully on the new team for the 2026 project, and that year there will be a change in Formula 1's technical regulations, with the next generation of engines.
I'm sure that, unofficially, some partnership will be made this year and that Newey will already start putting his plans into practice to take over with strength and a "new project" pre-architected for 2026.

I have a lot of respect for Newey, I consider him one of the greatest designers of the modern era of Formula 1... he was responsible for Williams projects for a long time and was mainly responsible for the creation of the revolutionary FW14B with which Nigel Mansell was champion. Then, at McLaren and finally now at Red Bull.... in all the teams he left his mark.

[retreat]

according to insiders the announcement of Adrian Nevwy's farewell will be made tomorrow, it was supposed to be today but it was delayed.

According to these insiders, the favorite for the hiring is Ferrari and he should work for the 2026 car.

So even if he signs this month with Ferrari he shouldn't be able to work for the 2025 car, I believe due to company secrecy contractual rules.

So it's confirmed that Nevwy will leave Red Bull? well, this is quite surprising news, after Hamilton's departure from Mercedes - because if you look at the internal chaos at Red Bull, it has been quite heated in recent times, so Nevwy's decision to leave Red Bull is the right one. However, the question of whether he will choose Ferrari or not as his new team is still a mystery, because if he really chooses Ferrari as his new team, that would be very good news for Ferrari and I as a Ferrari fan would be very happy with that. Hopefully he can choose Ferrari as his new team.

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and now it is official, Adrian Newey will leave the team in 2025, confirmed by Redbull.
The date is not great, it should have some pause time after the expiration of the cotnract so I don't think he will able to work on the 2026 car.


Anyway where do you think he will go? according to media Ferrari is in pole position.

[Distraction]

and now it is official, Adrian Newey will leave the team in 2025, confirmed by Redbull.
The date is not great, it should have some pause time after the expiration of the cotnract so I don't think he will able to work on the 2026 car.


Anyway where do you think he will go? according to media Ferrari is in pole position.

Yeah it has been confirmed that he is leaving quite earlier than the expectations.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2024/may/01/red-bull-confirm-celebrated-car-designer-adrian-newey-to-leave-f1-team

I believe Ferrari will reach an agreement with him soon. It is already said that the negotiations are expected to start after the Miami Grand Prix. It would be a wonderful deal for the Tifosi.    Bright times might not be that far away from Ferrari after this news. I hope Newey would be given an active role to design the best car on the grid.


By the way it looks like the previous images I shared were false alarm.    Ferrari is going to have the livery below for the upcoming race.

[criptoevangelista]

Yesterday it was 30 years since Ayrton Senna died, for me he was one of the greatest of all time, I always watched the races to see him, it was all very sad... Is anyone here from Senna's time? he was incredible, especially driving in the rain.