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[Distraction]

There wasn't a proper challenge even between Leclerc and Perez despite the qualifying results. Ferrari are really slow when it comes to race pace in comparison with Red Bull.    But it was still nice to see the young F2 driver Bearman doing a superb work in his first F1 race.

He didn't have much time to get prepared for even qualifying after Sainz's urgent surgery. Still Bearman managed to finish in 7th position by gaining a few more. 

Probably Bearman will finish this season ahead of a few F1 drivers after collecting 6 points yesterday. 

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What a race right ? Piastri is proving race after race to be way better than Norris but also he can be a top 4 easily race after race with just a bit of improvement to the car because the kid has everything it needs to bring success to McLaren.

Charles looked so focused the entire race that he forgot he was on the podium because his mind was still racing at that point and barely cameras barely got a smile from him so I guess this version of Charles 2024 is the most motivated one so far.

He prolly was thinking if he had Sainz instead of Bearman, Sainz would've finished third at quali and Sainz would've defended his rear and he would've finished second or better.  This year is his last chance as next year Ferrari will have Hamilton and possibly Horner and Newey.  Who would be the second driver under that scenario.  :/  

I feel for the guy...  I like Leclerc tbh.  He'll be a champ one day.

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Despite that Saudi Arabian track is fastest on calendar, it's not easy to overtake here and it makes races here not very interesting

Cars has changed.

The prediction made in 2022 was to reduce the drag resistance of the car using the bottom of the car.
In the 1st year of this generation of cars it was true, cars was able to follow in dirty air.

In just 2 years teams empowered their cars and now if they are following in dirty air they will lose drag, so we are going again to have the 2020 problem when cars weren't unable to follow in turns due the loss of drag.

Well the first two races just emphasized that this is going to be an extremely boring season for the third consecutive time,no one is getting even closer to Redbull,they are racing in another league as Fernando Alonso claimed yesterday through radio,do we have any plan B as these guys are racing in another league showing the frustration of the team being nowhere near competition together with all other teams.The bad thing is that I highly doubt any team will improve their car in order to be at least competing or trying to against Redbull this time,there is no drag problem for me,it is no competition at all and this is the biggest problem of F1 2024.

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Moto GP Losail Circuit of Qatar is about to being in 4 minutes and this year I'm said to myself that I will try to watch MotoGP from 1st race until the last one as I'm trying to engage with the sport like I do with F1.

Is Ducatti the best moto out there right now ? because I do see 3 Ducatti's in top 5 of the grid. 

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I think the Saudi Arabian GP was a good race for Leclerc and Bearman. Ferrari and Leclerc in particular will be the favorites for third place throughout the season. Maybe it's too early to say, but if the guys behind Leclerc don't go for him, he could see 2nd place a couple of times, depending on how Perez does during the season.

Bearman's got that Verstappen vibe. He's crazy. And that reminds me of Max Verstappen.
Red Bull's race pace is incredible. Maybe Leclerc will push them, but there is no one else to push them. I don't think we'll see any exciting races this season except Monaco and Barcelona.

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Cars has changed.

The prediction made in 2022 was to reduce the drag resistance of the car using the bottom of the car.
In the 1st year of this generation of cars it was true, cars was able to follow in dirty air.

In just 2 years teams empowered their cars and now if they are following in dirty air they will lose drag, so we are going again to have the 2020 problem when cars weren't unable to follow in turns due the loss of drag.

Well the first two races just emphasized that this is going to be an extremely boring season for the third consecutive time,no one is getting even closer to Redbull,they are racing in another league as Fernando Alonso claimed yesterday through radio,do we have any plan B as these guys are racing in another league showing the frustration of the team being nowhere near competition together with all other teams.The bad thing is that I highly doubt any team will improve their car in order to be at least competing or trying to against Redbull this time,there is no drag problem for me,it is no competition at all and this is the biggest problem of F1 2024.

At this point, I think it's a bit more regards to rest of the cars, like remove Max and even Perez from the calculations, and you start to see a real fight. For example last year Mercedes finished with 409 points at second place, but Ferrari had 406 points, ONLY THREE points behind, and became third, if you really watched that close then you would see some fun in that battle.

Or for example Mclaren finished fourth, but they were nowhere to be found at the start of the season, they had one of the worst cars in all of the track, whereas Aston Martin had a beast, they almost even won races, whereas at the end of the season Mclaren finished above Aston Martin to be fourth. If you watched their race, that was quite fun too. So as you can see, if you stop checking who is first, then you can find many battles in every part of it.

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Bagnaia is back with a win.
Only 3rd for Martin.

Marquez is getting the feeling, he will fight for some wins soon.

[Koal-84]

Is Ducatti the best moto out there right now ? because I do see 3 Ducatti's in top 5 of the grid.  

It has now become a Ducati League again, the only thing that makes me feel positive about the season is that the gaps are not as big as expected...

Marquez is getting the feeling, he will fight for some wins soon.

However, it won't be easy for Marc to win, as the favourites are once again as expected.

But a win for Marc is definitely possible this year.

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However, it won't be easy for Marc to win, as the favourites are once again as expected.

But a win for Marc is definitely possible this year.

I think it will the year of Martin, I really like him as driver, more then Bagnaia for sure.

[alegotardo]

Bearman's got that Verstappen vibe. He's crazy. And that reminds me of Max Verstappen.

That's what I don't understand... how did a "crazy" guy manage to run a perfect race without making any mistakes? Generally, those who go to the racetrack betting "all-inn" make some serious mistakes and then recover them, but that's not what I saw happen with Berman.

Although there is no guarantee that he will race in any more F1 circuits this year, Bearman has shown his potential and is already guaranteed that he will race in six more free practice sessions with Haas. So, if he can deliver a good performance, like what he did in the last race, it is possible that he will be able to win a place in the team in 2025.

[Koal-84]

I think it will the year of Martin, I really like him as driver, more then Bagnaia for sure.

The MotoGP title will definitely go to Bagnaia and Martin again, as a Rossi fan I am more a Bagnaia fan, but they are both top riders, and if neither of them gets injured I think Bagnaia will come out on top again in the end.

I would have expected Aprilia to be a bit stronger, but as an Austrian I like the fact that KTM is also at the front, especially for Binder. And it's good the see only 13 sec. between first and tenth.

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What a race right ? Piastri is proving race after race to be way better than Norris but also he can be a top 4 easily race after race with just a bit of improvement to the car because the kid has everything it needs to bring success to McLaren.

Charles looked so focused the entire race that he forgot he was on the podium because his mind was still racing at that point and barely cameras barely got a smile from him so I guess this version of Charles 2024 is the most motivated one so far.

Both Piastri and Norris are young drivers who have more potential to be able to bring McLaren to their best performance, it is quite difficult to see which one has more potential because both are very passionate about winning the race. But I see that Norris is better than Piasri, but the difference in their performance is quite small, so the results on the circuit could be different due to other factors.

And talking about Charles, I see that he is at his highest motivation right now. Even though in the last few races he only finished in P4 and P3, at the current standings he is in P3 and that is quite a good thing. I'm very optimistic that he can maintain his position or can get P2 (if he's not unlucky).

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Bagnaia is back with a win.
Only 3rd for Martin.

Marquez is getting the feeling, he will fight for some wins soon.

Marquez still needs an adjustment process on his new motorcycle, because new rider in ducati. but with a contract that is only 1 year, he must be quick in adjusting and giving achievements. if not, next season he will not be able to fill 1 spot that may be vacant in the Lenovo Ducati factory team, filling the spot of Bastiani. if want to fill that spot, his achievements obviously have to be greater than Jorge Martin.

[Koal-84]

Marquez still needs an adjustment process on his new motorcycle, because new rider in ducati. but with a contract that is only 1 year, he must be quick in adjusting and giving achievements. if not, next season he will not be able to fill 1 spot that may be vacant in the Lenovo Ducati factory team, filling the spot of Bastiani. if want to fill that spot, his achievements obviously have to be greater than Jorge Martin.

I wouldn't see a single reason why the Ducati factory team would want Marc Marquez?

The team has a world champion with ambitions for the next title this year, plus the second rider is young and talented, maybe not as good as Bagnaia, but if so Ducati would rather choose Martin than Marc, Ducati already had bad experiences with Lorenzo.

In any case, Marc's departure from Honda was the right decision

[püsür]

Bearman's got that Verstappen vibe. He's crazy. And that reminds me of Max Verstappen.

That's what I don't understand... how did a "crazy" guy manage to run a perfect race without making any mistakes? Generally, those who go to the racetrack betting "all-inn" make some serious mistakes and then recover them, but that's not what I saw happen with Berman.

Although there is no guarantee that he will race in any more F1 circuits this year, Bearman has shown his potential and is already guaranteed that he will race in six more free practice sessions with Haas. So, if he can deliver a good performance, like what he did in the last race, it is possible that he will be able to win a place in the team in 2025.

The biggest event of the race was that oliver bearman, the rookie who replaced carlos sainz due to his appendectomy, started from 11th place and finished 7th. He drove really close to faultlessly. He fully deserved the driver of the day award. The kid is only 18 years old. He became the youngest driver in ferrari history. He's 10th in the overall standings with 6 points and most probably the 6 points he got in this one race will be enough for someone to be ahead at the end of the season. The year Bearman was born, Alonso won the championship. It's not just an age difference, it's a generation difference now.

[koang]

In any case, Marc's departure from Honda was the right decision

Agree...
The first race of the year is always special. The main goal is to have a solid weekend,
and finishing in fourth place at the end of the race is a good achievement. This is quite a big improvement.
Long winter, long seasons... but now Marques can fight!
Marquez gave us what we've been missing since 2020. All the best for the rest of the season

[swogerino]

Of course Marquez has a lot of talent and for me is the most talented rider on the grid.The fact that he joined Ducati means only one thing and that is that he knew Honda was not pushing as hard as he needed to win races although thank to his masterclass riding skills he managed to give us some illusions in certain races in the first few laps during last season with Honda too.

Now he needs just a bit of time until he completely feels confident with his new bike and this means that most likely after a couple of races we are going to see great riding once again from Marquez and who knows,he may as well win quite some races and fight for the Championship this season.

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Marquez still needs an adjustment process on his new motorcycle, because new rider in ducati. but with a contract that is only 1 year, he must be quick in adjusting and giving achievements. if not, next season he will not be able to fill 1 spot that may be vacant in the Lenovo Ducati factory team, filling the spot of Bastiani. if want to fill that spot, his achievements obviously have to be greater than Jorge Martin.

The Ducati factory will not immediately choose Marquez if Bastianini is still good enough this season and there are still other options such as Jorge Martin, who is generally still better than Marquez in the first race this season. I appreciate Brad Binder who was able to bring the KTM motorbike to the runner-up podium after competing fiercely with Jorge Martin's Ducati motorbike. This means that the KTM motorbike this season is starting to show better progress through its strength so that in the first race of this season Brad Binder was immediately in second place in the standings table after being able to finish second in the Sprint and in the long race.

[Distraction]

That's what I don't understand... how did a "crazy" guy manage to run a perfect race without making any mistakes? Generally, those who go to the racetrack betting "all-inn" make some serious mistakes and then recover them, but that's not what I saw happen with Berman.

Although there is no guarantee that he will race in any more F1 circuits this year, Bearman has shown his potential and is already guaranteed that he will race in six more free practice sessions with Haas. So, if he can deliver a good performance, like what he did in the last race, it is possible that he will be able to win a place in the team in 2025.

I was also surprised with watching a very smooth performance by Bearman. Just think about it, he didn't have much time to prepare properly for the race weekend. We saw him driving the car in only FP3 session before the qualifying. But first the work he did in the qualifying was quite decent and later the race went even much better!  

Being really coldblooded and gaining a few more positions during the race was much more than the expectations from him. He was only an 18-year-old driver with no experience in F1.

He is expected to drive for Haas in the near future. Depending on his performance there maybe we might watch him at bigger teams later also.  

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Massa started a trial agaist FIA FOM and Ecclestone.

He wants the world title of 2008 after what Ecclestone admitted few months ago, do you think they will remove one from Hamilton?