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[tokeweed]

Oh nice, grid penalty for Bottas.  Nice to see Verstappen get bumped up to fourth on the grid.  We have ourselves a good race now.  No offense to Bottas, but I do find him quite boring.  I'd rather like to see Verstappen have a chance.

[cicciobtc]

F1 Silverstone GP results:

1 Lewis Hamilton MERCEDES    1:21:27.430
2 Valtteri Bottas MERCEDES           +14.063
3 Kimi Räikkönen FERRARI             +36.570
4 Mark Verstappen RED BULL          +52.125
5 Daniel Ricciardo  RED BULL        +1:05.955
6 Niko Hulkenberg RENAULT         +1:08.109
7 Sebastian Vettel FERRARI          +1:33.989
8 Esteban Ocon FORCE INDIA     +1 lap
9 Sergio Perez FORCE INDIA       +1 lap
10 Felipe Massa WILLIAMS          +1 lap



Harakiri for  Ferrari in the last 2 laps who lose 2nd place with Raikkonen and 4th place with Vettel.
Awesome race for Ricciardo starting from last place.

[LTU_btc]

Disaster for Ferrari in last laps. Verstappen had chance to finnish at podium, but Red Bull decided to not risk and made pit stop to change tyres in last laps. It helped for Raikkonen to stay in P3 after his pitstop.
In the middle of season we see only 1 point diference between Vettel and Hamilton. Bottas only 23 points behind leader.

[bbc.reporter]

@azguard. This will really be a good time to change the poll to Who will win the driver's championship, with only 3 drivers to choose from. Sebastian Vettel, Lewis Hamilton and Valteri Bottas. I am sure most of you who visit this thread regularly would agree.

[cicciobtc]

Standings Drivers after 10 races:

Vettel         177     gap
Hamilton     176       -1
Bottas         154     -23
Ricciardo     117     -60
Raikkonen     98     -79
Verstappen    57   -120
Perez            52    -125
Ocon             43    -134
Sainz            29     -148
Hulkenberg    26    -151
Massa            23    -154



Standings Teams after 10 races:

Mercedes   330     gap
Ferrari       275    -55
Red Bull     174 
Force India  95  
Williams      41 
Toro Rosso  33 
Haas           29 
Renault       26 
Sauber         5 
McLaren       2   

Vettel is still ahead for just one point, while Bottas has a 23-point detachment.
These 3 riders will play the world championship.

The World Championship Teams seems already closed, with the mercedes already having 55 points ahead on the ferrari

[bbc.reporter]

What would happen to Vettel if he does not get the driver's championship this year? He still has not signed a new contract with Ferrari and Mercedes' doors are still open for him to let him join their team.

@azguard. At the end of this season maybe this would also make a good poll. Will Vettel leave Ferrari?

[TravelMug]

If Hamilton is to win the 2017 Formula 1 crown, this will be seen as the crucial moment his fortunes turned for the better, considering Vettel entered the British Grand Prix with a 20-point advantage. Sunday's result means Vettel's lead at the top of the drivers' standings was cut down to just a single point following the 10th race of the year, while Verstappen and Ricciardo finished fourth and fifth, respectively.

[bbc.reporter]

@Travelmug. I speculate that Lewis Hamilton will take a break from Formula 1 by announcing his retirement. I reckon his former teammate at McClaren, Jenson Button is doing the same thing.

After 2 or maybe 3 years Lewis will be back to his old team, McClaren where he grew up and will be staying with them until his real retirement.

[TravelMug]

Guys, I saw this news today:

Halo: Formula 1 to introduce controversial cockpit head-protection system in 2018

The controversial 'halo' cockpit head-protection system will be introduced into Formula 1 in 2018, governing body the FIA has confirmed.

http://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/40663158

What is your call on this?

[cicciobtc]

There will not be races this week in F1 and Motogp.
Both championships are in mid-season, and never like this year there is so much balance and uncertainty about who will win.

In Motogp there are 5 riders in only 26 points, in F1 there are 3 riders in 23 points.


The second part of the season will be really electrifying, and those who want to win will have to minimize the mistakes.

[Loepuenkyou]

@Travelmug. I speculate that Lewis Hamilton will take a break from Formula 1 by announcing his retirement. I reckon his former teammate at McClaren, Jenson Button is doing the same thing.

After 2 or maybe 3 years Lewis will be back to his old team, McClaren where he grew up and will be staying with them until his real retirement.

if lewis hamilton leave from mercedes strong candidate replace position hamilton , vettel
but i think fereari can't leave vettel to join mercedes, except ferari not renewal contract

and mclaren need much develop can compete car, only with big salary hamilton can join to mclaren

if hamilton leave to mercedes, i think max vestapen can replace position hamilton

[LTU_btc]

@Travelmug. I speculate that Lewis Hamilton will take a break from Formula 1 by announcing his retirement. I reckon his former teammate at McClaren, Jenson Button is doing the same thing.

After 2 or maybe 3 years Lewis will be back to his old team, McClaren where he grew up and will be staying with them until his real retirement.

Maybe it's possible, if he will win this championship. But I believe he would want to defend his title in next season. And only after next season he may take break, or try to participate in other race series like IndyCar.
Hamilton to McClaren. I think it only would be possible if they change engine supplier from Honda to Mercedes.

And now there are some interesting news: we may see comeback of Robert Kubica on Spa GP. Probly he would replace Palmer. Renault aren't happy about results of newbie Palmer.

[bbc.reporter]

Guys, I saw this news today:

Halo: Formula 1 to introduce controversial cockpit head-protection system in 2018

The controversial 'halo' cockpit head-protection system will be introduced into Formula 1 in 2018, governing body the FIA has confirmed.

http://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/40663158

What is your call on this?

As long as it does not affect the performance of the drivers then it is good to have extra protection. Some say that they do not like the way it looks. I am sure it will evolve with how it looks over time making it aesthetically beautiful and functional at the same time.

[azguard]

Guys, I saw this news today:

Halo: Formula 1 to introduce controversial cockpit head-protection system in 2018

The controversial 'halo' cockpit head-protection system will be introduced into Formula 1 in 2018, governing body the FIA has confirmed.

http://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/40663158

What is your call on this?

As long as it does not affect the performance of the drivers then it is good to have extra protection. Some say that they do not like the way it looks. I am sure it will evolve with how it looks over time making it aesthetically beautiful and functional at the same time.

My option is bad look for starter and if this is really like on that picture provided by this article this is by me very bad. Poor view side like split screen. Ok safety first but this is hilarious. This is just beginning for going full cover and then it wont be formula 1 anymore. Formula 1 is cuz of open cockpit, if they do something like this then is worse then i tough. First was engine now this what is next speed limit to 200 km/h?

[Dux2K]

Guys, I saw this news today:

Halo: Formula 1 to introduce controversial cockpit head-protection system in 2018

The controversial 'halo' cockpit head-protection system will be introduced into Formula 1 in 2018, governing body the FIA has confirmed.

http://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/40663158

What is your call on this?

I will say this , safety ok but for look not.
What would be next this type over tyres.  Not supporting this one.

[cicciobtc]

It is now official, Robert Kubica will be on track in the tests on the Hungaroring circuit next week. He will guide the Renault R.S.17.

If he is competitive he will be able to go back to f1!

[bbc.reporter]

The FIA has imposed stricter rules on the oil burning issue during qualifying limiting the use of the strategy that has been giving Mercedes the advantage. I speculate the Ferraris to be on pole and 2nd in Hungary.

[masterzino]

The FIA has imposed stricter rules on the oil burning issue during qualifying limiting the use of the strategy that has been giving Mercedes the advantage. I speculate the Ferraris to be on pole and 2nd in Hungary.

FIA are making the Formula more boring and boring every year in past 10. I agree with you and I don't know why they are backing Mercedes, even unofficially. 5 years ago I was in front of TV every Sunday to watch the Formula. Now... once in a month or two.

[Bitcoingiver]

Guys, I saw this news today:

Halo: Formula 1 to introduce controversial cockpit head-protection system in 2018

The controversial 'halo' cockpit head-protection system will be introduced into Formula 1 in 2018, governing body the FIA has confirmed.

http://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/40663158

What is your call on this?

That would really be nice , at least that's one of the things I have being waiting to see around.

[bbc.reporter]

The FIA has imposed stricter rules on the oil burning issue during qualifying limiting the use of the strategy that has been giving Mercedes the advantage. I speculate the Ferraris to be on pole and 2nd in Hungary.

FIA are making the Formula more boring and boring every year in past 10. I agree with you and I don't know why they are backing Mercedes, even unofficially. 5 years ago I was in front of TV every Sunday to watch the Formula. Now... once in a month or two.

No. The new owners are trying to make formula 1 a more engaging sport. This year with the new car specifications we have seen faster races and the breaking of speed records in racing tracks.

What do you mean they are backing Mercedes unofficially. I did not say anything about that.