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May 10, 2017, 08:16:36 AM
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wait for full wallet!

Software Development looks like a life cycle. There is no best time. Look like to bitcoin, we are still using bitcoin with 0.X version. It is still experimantal, nobody think about that, but bitcoin is not version 1.0 yet.
Did i explain?
So we can use too lite wallet for contribute to Community. We are behind of the door, we need to reach more people..

lets start to vote for lite wallet & mainnet

Right point.
Some people ask how do they buy Elastic, but now it is impossible. They buy something another coins.
But it should be more and more people involved in Elastic project.
Yes, the last successful project is not necessarily the best in technology, but it must be in the forefront.

For the poll you wanna make a light wallet with a week work isnt it easier to make an ethereum ERC20 token, with a swap when the mainnet comes Live.
Then you dont need to make anything beside the token.

Plus everything that was on ethereum will have some ethereum hype added for free.
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May 10, 2017, 08:28:47 AM
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Proposal for poll options

- Lite wallet allowing transfers [a week of work for EK]
- MVP described by EK here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1396233.msg18931600#msg18931600 [needs ETA from EK]
- Full product [undefined features, undefined time]

Regarding the second option (MVP) I want to have a discussion and reach understanding and a decision if it would be a better route to keep or to lose the PoW - this is important for many reasons of course, but also has tangible implications on the time frame it will take to deliver a client (for one, without PoW it will be able to release sooner apparently).


I will vote for MVP, but we need some kind of ETA. waiting for the full product for release will take too long.
as rallier mentioned above even bitcoin isn't at version 1.0 yet.

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May 10, 2017, 11:48:32 AM
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From EK's awesome updates and one of a kind Bitcoin mining video to voting on the logo and the excitement everyone felt to complete silence now . I don't understand   Huh

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May 10, 2017, 11:58:12 AM
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One of the most interesting projects in crypto, but it is taking long time to develop.
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May 10, 2017, 12:38:34 PM
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From EK's awesome updates and one of a kind Bitcoin mining video to voting on the logo and the excitement everyone felt to complete silence now . I don't understand   Huh

I imagine that it would have been a hard blow for EK, just when it published its video on mining Bitcoin, with which I imagine that would be very satisfied, to explode all this discussion on the need to throw something to the markets.

I suppose that EK will have to digest it and raise its proposal on this discussion.

After all, we depend on him for any decision.

I imagine he will be thinking what to do. I have no doubt that he always thinks of the best for the community.

You may also be waiting for everyone who wants to speak about it, to have as many opinions as possible.

It is not easy, some want lite wallet immediately and others want to wait.

We would also have to know if EK would support the help of other devs, he may decide to leave the project if he can not finish it alone.

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May 10, 2017, 12:51:55 PM
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From EK's awesome updates and one of a kind Bitcoin mining video to voting on the logo and the excitement everyone felt to complete silence now . I don't understand   Huh

I imagine that it would have been a hard blow for EK, just when it published its video on mining Bitcoin, with which I imagine that would be very satisfied, to explode all this discussion on the need to throw something to the markets.

I suppose that EK will have to digest it and raise its proposal on this discussion.

After all, we depend on him for any decision.

I imagine he will be thinking what to do. I have no doubt that he always thinks of the best for the community.

You may also be waiting for everyone who wants to speak about it, to have as many opinions as possible.

It is not easy, some want lite wallet immediately and others want to wait.

We would also have to know if EK would support the help of other devs, he may decide to leave the project if he can not finish it alone.
Our dear Satoshi, EK, with all the speculations and guessworks, please shine your light on this  Smiley

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May 10, 2017, 12:56:27 PM
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From EK's awesome updates and one of a kind Bitcoin mining video to voting on the logo and the excitement everyone felt to complete silence now . I don't understand   Huh

... he may decide to leave the project if he can not finish it alone.


Why do you think so...?
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May 10, 2017, 01:26:59 PM
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From EK's awesome updates and one of a kind Bitcoin mining video to voting on the logo and the excitement everyone felt to complete silence now . I don't understand   Huh

... he may decide to leave the project if he can not finish it alone.


Why do you think so...?
you can read any posts from EK and you'll see he's always been welcoming knowledgeable help. He gave such positive compliments to Coralreefer. He's NOT the type that would say either only he finishes or would leave. EK has been here over 14 months, and even with occasional inpatient people ( including me), he's been professional and continued his work. EK is NOT a quitter !

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May 10, 2017, 01:35:09 PM
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From EK's awesome updates and one of a kind Bitcoin mining video to voting on the logo and the excitement everyone felt to complete silence now . I don't understand   Huh

... he may decide to leave the project if he can not finish it alone.


Why do you think so...?
Because the main network has not been on the line。
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May 10, 2017, 01:52:06 PM
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So we are all the same page..
BTW we will vote . I guess @unvoid is offline, If @unvoid won't make a poll today, I can on "polls.elastic.pw"

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May 10, 2017, 02:47:19 PM
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I think it is very useful to have a light client? Why?
We can use the light client to attract new people, new devs.
The way now, is that no new people can involve.
Is also better to have the ability to donate, someone who participated can than donate to certain people...

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So we are all the same page..
BTW we will vote . I guess @unvoid is offline, If @unvoid won't make a poll today, I can on "polls.elastic.pw"
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May 10, 2017, 03:06:15 PM
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We were on a roll, the impatience of some has pissed of the devs. Yes the alts are on the rise, but it could be a bubble. This isn't a pump and dump project. Look at Decent, all the fud they get and they won't launch until "THEY" say they're ready. So if EK states that the project is not ready for launch, we should listen. He's trying to do something unprecedented in the crypto space. Roll Eyes



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May 10, 2017, 03:25:00 PM
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We were on a roll, the impatience of some has pissed of the devs. Yes the alts are on the rise, but it could be a bubble. This isn't a pump and dump project. Look at Decent, all the fud they get and they won't launch until "THEY" say they're ready. So if EK states that the project is not ready for launch, we should listen. He's trying to do something unprecedented in the crypto space. Roll Eyes

you have a point, but i think it's still good if people can vote.
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We were on a roll, the impatience of some has pissed of the devs. Yes the alts are on the rise, but it could be a bubble. This isn't a pump and dump project. Look at Decent, all the fud they get and they won't launch until "THEY" say they're ready. So if EK states that the project is not ready for launch, we should listen. He's trying to do something unprecedented in the crypto space. Roll Eyes
I thought EK agreed for a vote and even offered further help. If our devs are upset ( which I don't think they are), that only makes the astroNUTS at Golem, SONM, ..... happy. Angry

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May 10, 2017, 03:44:35 PM
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Guys dont forget this, you can do best software but if you cant do PR , it doesn't make sense, nobody use it.  
Exchanges are best PR Option for us for now.

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Guys dont forget this, you can do best software but if you cant do PR , it doesn't make sense, nobody use it.  
Exchanges are best PR Option for us for now.

i also agree on this.

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We were on a roll, the impatience of some has pissed of the devs. Yes the alts are on the rise, but it could be a bubble. This isn't a pump and dump project. Look at Decent, all the fud they get and they won't launch until "THEY" say they're ready. So if EK states that the project is not ready for launch, we should listen. He's trying to do something unprecedented in the crypto space. Roll Eyes

We are still on a roll.

No one is in any doubt as to the tremendous work that EK has done and will do.

The desire to launch a lite wallet is as a means of getting more devs, testers and PR people to help EK.

We need a way to incentivise these types of people to become involved and to do that, we need to offer them the opportunity to have a financial stake in the future of Elastic.

By releasing some of the XEL tokens onto the exchanges, these type of people can buy into the project and have the opportunity to be financially rewarded through watching their investment rise and through seeing funds released so the community can offer bounties and other incentives.

It is and always has been unreasonable to burden EK with all of the work that's involved with this project.

It's unreasonable to expect Coralreefer, unvoid and others that have done work on the project not to be rewarded for their efforts.

Releasing a lite wallet allows others to become financially involved and provides the funds for future development.

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We were on a roll, the impatience of some has pissed of the devs. Yes the alts are on the rise, but it could be a bubble. This isn't a pump and dump project. Look at Decent, all the fud they get and they won't launch until "THEY" say they're ready. So if EK states that the project is not ready for launch, we should listen. He's trying to do something unprecedented in the crypto space. Roll Eyes

We are still on a roll.

No one is in any doubt as to the tremendous work that EK has done and will do.

The desire to launch a lite wallet is as a means of getting more devs, testers and PR people to help EK.

We need a way to incentivise these types of people to become involved and to do that, we need to offer them the opportunity to have a financial stake in the future of Elastic.

By releasing some of the XEL tokens onto the exchanges, these type of people can buy into the project and have the opportunity to be financially rewarded through watching their investment rise and through seeing funds released so the community can offer bounties and other incentives.

It is and always has been unreasonable to burden EK with all of the work that's involved with this project.

It's unreasonable to expect Coralreefer, unvoid and others that have done work on the project not to be rewarded for their efforts.

Releasing a lite wallet allows others to become financially involved and provides the funds for future development.


Well said ! This will make the dumpers dump ( the holders are not to worry ), will bring long overdue incentives to to EK and other developers and would put us on spotlight to attract more help for EK and the project overall.

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May 10, 2017, 05:00:56 PM
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If our devs are upset ( which I don't think they are)

I can only speak for myself, but I must admit that I AM a bit upset. And I more and more get the feeling that someone professional needs to take the lead - officially and long term.

First of all, sorry that I do not "report back" every few minutes - but I have no time for fluff talk. I also do not want to feel obligated that I must report my actions after all. Of course, I would share interesting new things that I thought of and that I think might be interesting for the community. This is by the way, why I do not want to be offered any BTC anymore for finishing some arbitrary steps (like in a work contract) because I simply do not want to become anyone's bitch.

What really drives me nuts is this: A few months back the whole thing was a lot of fun, we were multiple intelligent devs (others more intelligent than I am, no doubt, but I give my best): we were sharing thoughts, implemented prototypes, tested the whole stuff and made great progress. The knowhow in Elastic is a result of many hours of many highly talented people (thanks to coralreefer, or a friend from ireland who left recently) - some of them very qualified working in very high positions. I have put so much love into this; 14 months of my life - every single day, every single weekend, saturday and sunday full time, and even burned the midnight oil frequently.

But in the last few days/weeks things are getting really uncomfortable here. I feel there is a chaos, some people spread FUD, others want to launch the mainnet "right away" rambo-style, some devs are being accused of whatever (that's the reason some already left). Me personally, I am getting regularily accused of scamming (some people still believe that we have no code), people try to find out my real name (just ask?) and threaten to dox me (yes, it's one candidate who is active here in this thread and who actually is indeed motivated to get involved to some degree).

Anyway, I still stick around but honestly - despite all my love for this project - if I hadn't any XEL (which is not that much) I would have gone away long time ago.

Also: I am not running here anything, I am not an owner of anything, I have some XEL like you guys and I want to show - with you together - how a real supercomputer has to be made. The sentiment of the "supercomputer market" confirms, that this topic is hot and worth to be pursed. But if someone needs PR, then please do some PR. I can't code 14 months daily, write documentations, do PR, run a website (which I never would), administrate a forum, answer some dickheads to their threats, report back every time, etc.

Finally: I think it would be best for Elastic if some professional "team", foundation, or whoever would take over this loose community project and give it some structure. I think it's not good when multiple people run into totally contrary directions at the same time
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