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July 14, 2013, 01:56:11 PM
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allinvain: order on hold, payment address and price (17.4) on order page, payment made but no confirmation
rudrigor2: order on hold, no payment address
af_newbie: order on hold, no payment address
raize: order on hold, payment address and price (17.4) on order page
greaterninja: nothing (?)
fhh: nothing (?)
dylan186: nothing (?)
ailikum: nothing (?)
Ioshia: ?
server: ?
5107512: payment address and price (17.4) on order page
tucenaber: order on hold, no payment address

You forgot to add me to the list:

Sended Trade-In: Tue 16.04.2013    07:52
Swiss Post: RC659890833CH – international shipment (Switzerland → China, People's Republic)
Avalon Support Ticket: 1045

Thank you, till today we have nothing, no contact or anything, if the shipped hardware was stolen and never arrived at china, it would be great to get at least informed from the receiver about it, it would become possble to go to the police. But since there is no comunication - i still dnt know what happend. Thats why we have to consider that hardware as lost. After this expirience, i doubt that we will send ever again any more hardware to china.

This lack of comunicaion is horrible!  And the way ppl get treated is too, even with the price 17,4 they not gonna be able to cover the mess (besides that our goal was a mid to longtherm cooperation and not the "fast money" in first place). I realy miss the times with ngzhnag, no comunication problem, in-time delivery, great hardware.
Ngzhang made the hardware in first place soon after FPGAMiner, we supported it from the very first moment. Back then there was no norhtbridge mount on icarus, or x6500, so it was drawn from FPGAMiner, and soon after adopted for the Lancelot boards. Back then it seemed that we all work together, promises was met, everything was fine.
Its still readable here in the forum https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=90880.msg1098328#msg1098328

But from Avalon we never was contacted, and it was not even honored that we developed the watercooling element for Avalon and Lancelot http://i.imgur.com/SLmcBnf.jpg, http://i.imgur.com/RBieqMi.jpg.

Bitsyncom was even asking to send bulk Avalon order requests to ngzhang what we did - no answer
We wrote emails IM's Tickets etc. - no answer.
We sended the hardware - no answer or even a confirmation
And now according to you - we are not even listed...

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July 14, 2013, 03:12:24 PM
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allinvain: order on hold, payment address and price (17.4) on order page, payment made but no confirmation
rudrigor2: order on hold, no payment address
af_newbie: order on hold, no payment address
raize: order on hold, payment address and price (17.4) on order page
greaterninja: nothing (?)
fhh: nothing (?)
dylan186: nothing (?)
ailikum: nothing (?)
Ioshia: ?
server: ?
5107512: payment address and price (17.4) on order page
tucenaber: order on hold, no payment address

Nothing ,and no response for support ticket #1275
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July 14, 2013, 04:01:39 PM
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allinvain: order on hold, payment address and price (17.4) on order page, payment made but no confirmation
coretechs: order on hold, payment address and price (17.4) on order page, payment made but no confirmation
raize: order on hold, payment address and price (17.4) on order page
5107512: order on hold, payment address and price (17.4) on order page
af_newbie: order on hold, no payment address
rudrigor2: order on hold, no payment address
tucenaber: order on hold, no payment address
ailikum: nothing (?)
dylan186: nothing (?)
fhh: nothing (?)
greaterninja: nothing (?)
Icoin: nothing (?)
loshia: ?
server: ?

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July 14, 2013, 04:03:12 PM
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I think personal wellbeing is more important then business dissapointments.

Mafia is in control overthere.
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July 14, 2013, 04:39:38 PM
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Yes, this assessment is correct. I'm happy to pay, I just was confused with the pricing as listed (one says I need to pay several hundred BTC, the other is 17.4 * number of units).

If allinvain can confirm they have shipped his unit(s) then that will be sufficient for me to follow through with the payment, I just have to be ultra-careful since this is a reasonable amount of BTC (I'm getting more than one Avalon as a trade-in).

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July 14, 2013, 04:47:18 PM
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17.4 * number of units).

As batch#3 customer im sooo fcking jelous of your price :/
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July 14, 2013, 05:03:34 PM
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As batch#3 customer im sooo fcking jelous of your price :/

With the loss of mining for the last 3 months it's not exactly peachy-keen for me here, either. :/

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July 14, 2013, 05:27:54 PM
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allinvain: order on hold, payment address and price (17.4) on order page, payment made but no confirmation
rudrigor2: order on hold, no payment address
af_newbie: order on hold, no payment address
raize: order on hold, payment address and price (17.4) on order page
greaterninja: nothing (?)
fhh: nothing (?)
dylan186: nothing (?)
ailikum: nothing (?)
Ioshia: ?
server: ?
5107512: payment address and price (17.4) on order page
tucenaber: order on hold, no payment address

You forgot to add me to the list:

Sended Trade-In: Tue 16.04.2013    07:52
Swiss Post: RC659890833CH – international shipment (Switzerland → China, People's Republic)
Avalon Support Ticket: 1045

Thank you, till today we have nothing, no contact or anything, if the shipped hardware was stolen and never arrived at china, it would be great to get at least informed from the receiver about it, it would become possble to go to the police. But since there is no comunication - i still dnt know what happend. Thats why we have to consider that hardware as lost. After this expirience, i doubt that we will send ever again any more hardware to china.

This lack of comunicaion is horrible!  And the way ppl get treated is too, even with the price 17,4 they not gonna be able to cover the mess (besides that our goal was a mid to longtherm cooperation and not the "fast money" in first place). I realy miss the times with ngzhnag, no comunication problem, in-time delivery, great hardware.
Ngzhang made the hardware in first place soon after FPGAMiner, we supported it from the very first moment. Back then there was no norhtbridge mount on icarus, or x6500, so it was drawn from FPGAMiner, and soon after adopted for the Lancelot boards. Back then it seemed that we all work together, promises was met, everything was fine.
Its still readable here in the forum https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=90880.msg1098328#msg1098328

But from Avalon we never was contacted, and it was not even honored that we developed the watercooling element for Avalon and Lancelot http://i.imgur.com/SLmcBnf.jpg, http://i.imgur.com/RBieqMi.jpg.

Bitsyncom was even asking to send bulk Avalon order requests to ngzhang what we did - no answer
We wrote emails IM's Tickets etc. - no answer.
We sended the hardware - no answer or even a confirmation
And now according to you - we are not even listed...

Icoin, keep that list in the OP.
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July 14, 2013, 05:49:17 PM
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no mail, no order in my store acc  Cry


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July 14, 2013, 06:53:41 PM
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You forgot to add me to the list:

Sorry about that. I'll put you right in the top since you're the op Wink

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Thank you, till today we have nothing, no contact or anything, if the shipped hardware was stolen and never arrived at china, it would be great to get at least informed from the receiver about it, it would become possble to go to the police. But since there is no comunication - i still dnt know what happend. Thats why we have to consider that hardware as lost. After this expirience, i doubt that we will send ever again any more hardware to china.

This lack of comunicaion is horrible!  And the way ppl get treated is too, even with the price 17,4 they not gonna be able to cover the mess (besides that our goal was a mid to longtherm cooperation and not the "fast money" in first place). I realy miss the times with ngzhnag, no comunication problem, in-time delivery, great hardware.
Ngzhang made the hardware in first place soon after FPGAMiner, we supported it from the very first moment. Back then there was no norhtbridge mount on icarus, or x6500, so it was drawn from FPGAMiner, and soon after adopted for the Lancelot boards. Back then it seemed that we all work together, promises was met, everything was fine.
Its still readable here in the forum https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=90880.msg1098328#msg1098328

But from Avalon we never was contacted, and it was not even honored that we developed the watercooling element for Avalon and Lancelot http://i.imgur.com/SLmcBnf.jpg, http://i.imgur.com/RBieqMi.jpg.

Bitsyncom was even asking to send bulk Avalon order requests to ngzhang what we did - no answer
We wrote emails IM's Tickets etc. - no answer.
We sended the hardware - no answer or even a confirmation
And now according to you - we are not even listed...

+1

There's even more to be said about this but I'll refrain from doing that right now. What concerns me more is what will happen going forward. How do they come up with the price without even asking if the customer want a PSU or not? They actually advice all new customers not to order a PSU just to make the packages less likely to be held up in customs. Why are we not asked that question? I'm very concerned about the customs issue and would like to have an influence on the process. Will we get that opportunity or will they just quietly ship the packages to the shipping address?
I assume the former but who knows?

Heck, I would get rid of the cases even, if I had the chance Wink

The (hopefully) corrected status:

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icoin:nothing
allinvain: order on hold, payment address and price (17.4) on order page, payment made but no confirmation
rudrigor2: order on hold, no payment address
af_newbie: nothing
raize: order on hold, payment address and price (17.4) on order page
greaterninja: nothing (?)
fhh: nothing (?)
dylan186: nothing (?)
ailikum: nothing (?)
Ioshia: ?
server: ?
5107512: payment address and price (17.2) on order page
tucenaber: order on hold, no payment address
yxt: nothing
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July 14, 2013, 07:17:00 PM
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No mail and no order. Please add to list.

NO PSAKING!
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July 14, 2013, 07:56:58 PM
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My order was confirmed in Friday night. Paid 17.4 BTC

Please help the Led Boy aka Bicknellski to make us a nice Christmas led tree and pay WASP membership fee here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=643999.msg7191563#msg7191563
And remember Bicknellski is not collecting money from community;D
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July 14, 2013, 08:27:54 PM
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I've not sent my Icarus boards for trade-in yet as I haven't understood how and when it was supposed to proceed.

Did things become clear? Is there a proper procedure to follow and what are the trade-in choices and what is it we are trading for exactly? Avalon with 3 or 4 modules? with or without PSU? last-generation with controller board fixes?

Are there custom taxes to pay for (or is there a procedure to follow to avoid them)?

I have 4 Icarus boards, 2 or 3 of which I'll be OK to trade but I'm not sure I'll risk them until the whole trade-in process is made clear to me...

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July 14, 2013, 08:31:42 PM
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This was/is the trade-in "procedure" : http://us5.campaign-archive.com/?u=238a9ecd2e5192e3cd3ace26d&id=e476a748a0
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July 14, 2013, 08:44:14 PM
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Still no email or store update or invoice to send btc to.
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July 14, 2013, 10:31:52 PM
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My order was confirmed in Friday night. Paid 17.4 BTC


Does it say "trade-in on hold" or not? (in the order details page)


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July 14, 2013, 11:39:15 PM
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allinvain: order on hold, payment address and price (17.4) on order page, payment made but no confirmation
coretechs: order on hold, payment address and price (17.4) on order page, payment made but no confirmation
rudrigor2: order on hold, no payment address
af_newbie: nothing
raize: order on hold, payment address and price (17.4) on order page
greaterninja: nothing
fhh: nothing (?)
dylan186: nothing (?)
ailikum: nothing (?)
Ioshia: confirmed (order on old??), payment address and price (17.4) on order page, payment made
server: ?
5107512: payment address and price (17.2) on order page
tucenaber: order on hold, no payment address
yxt: nothing
needbmw: nothing
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July 15, 2013, 12:26:12 AM
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There's not much information and some of it isn't clear:

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As per usual the price of the unit is determined by the following equation.
mining_difficulty * ( 1 + number_of_month_in_lead_time) over a 30 day period on the unit's hashing

What does it mean exactly? I believed that the price was set so that it was expected to be earned back in one month and don't see how this equation matches.

For people who have been contacted by Avalon, did they ask which model you wanted or was it a 3 unit without PSU (without any choice)?

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July 15, 2013, 12:32:05 AM
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There's not much information and some of it isn't clear:

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As per usual the price of the unit is determined by the following equation.
mining_difficulty * ( 1 + number_of_month_in_lead_time) over a 30 day period on the unit's hashing

What does it mean exactly? I believed that the price was set so that it was expected to be earned back in one month and don't see how this equation matches.

For people who have been contacted by Avalon, did they ask which model you wanted or was it a 3 unit without PSU (without any choice)?


Did not ask. It is going to be a 3 module unit with PSU.

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July 15, 2013, 01:30:39 AM
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i vote for 4 module without psu  Smiley

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