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Science, then, is free of the main vice of religion, which is faith. But, as I pointed out, science does have some of religion’s virtues. Religion may aspire to provide its followers with various benefits among them explanation, consolation, and uplift. Science, too, has something to offer in these areas.
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May 03, 2016, 03:57:22 AM |
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Science, then, is free of the main vice of religion, which is faith. But, as I pointed out, science does have some of religion’s virtues. Religion may aspire to provide its followers with various benefits among them explanation, consolation, and uplift. Science, too, has something to offer in these areas.
Science theory is part of science. Science theory is not fact. But a bunch of scientists get together and suggest the odds that they think are close enough for a science theory to be fact, so that they can believe it is fact when not proven. Thus they have faith. Like religion, there are some things in science that are known to be fact. There are other things that are not known to be fact, but are believed as though they were fact. This is the same as religion. Science is religion. Now, this wouldn't be so bad. After all, why not have a bunch of religious scientists? But they and the media talk about theory as though it were fact, and they get a bunch of ignorant laypeople to believe they know what they are talking about. So, they have a bunch of "church-goers" in the laypeople who believe them. The universities and science investigation companies are the churches. The scientists are the priests. They do it for money, the great high priest. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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May 04, 2016, 03:39:13 PM |
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Science is just another belief system, and like any belief system it can be abused. Before anyone starts flipping out I am not denying science has value or saying it is not valid. The problem with science is it is a fact that most people do not KNOW anything about it. Science is based on empirical data, IE first hand observation via the senses. This can take many forms and come via many different types of instruments. Most people never personally conducted any of these experiments to verify the validity of any of this data, they are simply accepting second hand information from others who have. As a result most science is simply just a collection of beliefs. You believe the scientist that collected the data did so correctly. You believe they don't have ulterior motives. You believe the peer reviews of said studies are accurate and not doctored. You believe the journals that publish them do not have ulterior motives.
Since most people don't have the knowledge or resources to replicate these experiments themselves, what most people call science is just a string of beliefs. In sort, unless you have witnessed it with your own senses, you are just practicing another belief system. As a result science can be manipulated and have many of the same flaws of any other belief system, especially considering the fact that there is still a lot that science still does not claim to know. This is important to understand, because without this knowledge one can fall into many of the same traps that plague religious believers by blindly just swallowing what others have told you and accepting it as fact rather than a possible unknown.
Wow.. Nailed it! Science is just another belief system that happens to have some facts that everybody would agree on, same as any other religion. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) Science doesn't explain the most important things and is limited. While Religion is very vast and far more things included in it.
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that last one,hits the top ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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May 05, 2016, 05:23:31 AM |
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Science is the religion for people who don't believe God. i believe in the one above all
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May 05, 2016, 10:52:29 AM |
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by difination religion is a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, especially when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs...Science is close to being a religion but will never be a religion inspite Science being based upon verifiable evidence on the other hand Religious faith not only lacks evidence, its independence from evidence is its pride and joy
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May 05, 2016, 01:42:51 PM |
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by difination religion is a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, especially when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs...Science is close to being a religion but will never be a religion inspite Science being based upon verifiable evidence on the other hand Religious faith not only lacks evidence, its independence from evidence is its pride and joy
If you and I sit across from each other at a table in a coffee shop, we know the fact of each others existence. If I tell you that I will buy you a cup of coffee as soon as the waitress gets over to take our order, you might have faith that I will do it. But maybe you know me better, and have faith that I won't. The existence of God and nature are facts. The promises of God and nature may or may not be taken on faith. Both religion and science express both fact and things that must be taken on faith. Or do you know everything that all the scientists profess? ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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May 05, 2016, 05:34:47 PM |
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Science/atheism is a religion in the same way that abstinence is a sexual position... or that bald is a hairstyle... it's not
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May 05, 2016, 08:06:51 PM |
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Or do you know everything that all the scientists profess?![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) We know that scientific method undergoes scrutiny while religion undergoes story telling and measuring how bad you did in the world..
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May 05, 2016, 08:09:50 PM |
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Science is just another belief system that happens to have some facts that everybody would agree on, same as any other religion.
Science is not a belief system... it is an evidence system Science shows you the evidence, and you are free to believe whatever you like Science has proven itself to be reliable, time after time... it is capable of predicting future events, which religion is not
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May 05, 2016, 09:36:06 PM |
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Science is the religion of an atheist...
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May 05, 2016, 09:56:41 PM |
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Science is just another belief system that happens to have some facts that everybody would agree on, same as any other religion.
Science is not a belief system... it is an evidence system Science shows you the evidence, and you are free to believe whatever you like Science has proven itself to be reliable, time after time... it is capable of predicting future events, which religion is not Wrong! Science has become a probability belief system. Remember Quantum Theory? > Probability Theory. > Theory theory. Science is all wrapped up in believing it is true because it might be. Religion! ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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May 06, 2016, 12:19:15 AM |
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Science is the religion of an atheist...
I know a lot of nobrain atheists, lol I think that the main purpose of science is find a fact of God existing but they keep failing cause God will never show to us till we will stop making our sins.
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May 06, 2016, 12:21:11 AM |
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Science is just another belief system that happens to have some facts that everybody would agree on, same as any other religion.
Science is not a belief system... it is an evidence system Science shows you the evidence, and you are free to believe whatever you like Science has proven itself to be reliable, time after time... it is capable of predicting future events, which religion is not Wrong! Science has become a probability belief system. Remember Quantum Theory? > Probability Theory. > Theory theory. Science is all wrapped up in believing it is true because it might be. Religion! This only shows that you fail to understand science... science is about what you can prove... not what 'might' happen... wow I have never met someone so willfully ignorant that they will mislead people on purpose Is ignorance bliss, as they say?
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May 06, 2016, 04:33:27 AM |
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Science is just another belief system that happens to have some facts that everybody would agree on, same as any other religion.
Science is not a belief system... it is an evidence system Science shows you the evidence, and you are free to believe whatever you like Science has proven itself to be reliable, time after time... it is capable of predicting future events, which religion is not Wrong! Science has become a probability belief system. Remember Quantum Theory? > Probability Theory. > Theory theory. Science is all wrapped up in believing it is true because it might be. Religion! This only shows that you fail to understand science... science is about what you can prove... not what 'might' happen... wow I have never met someone so willfully ignorant that they will mislead people on purpose Is ignorance bliss, as they say? If scientists think something like you seem to, and people believe the scientists, no wonder the world is in as much trouble as it is. Wake up and see that believing science theory as truth is based on probability, which is not known to be truth. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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May 26, 2016, 04:18:38 PM |
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Science and Religion, both are important in the beginning of life but in entirely different ways and perspective. It all depends on how you see things and how you believe in things. Science is all about experiments, tests, hypothesis. You have to see everything, every angle in order to believe it. But in Religion, you just have to have faith for you to believe in things.
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May 26, 2016, 05:26:52 PM |
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Science and Religion, both are important in the beginning of life but in entirely different ways and perspective. It all depends on how you see things and how you believe in things. Science is all about experiments, tests, hypothesis. You have to see everything, every angle in order to believe it. But in Religion, you just have to have faith for you to believe in things.
The science you can see and use is not religion. It is the science theory that is believed to be truth when it is not known to be truth that is religion. God built the things that you can see and use. God also has told us many things in the Bible, things that we cannot see you use. Faith has to do with believing God. Btw, one of the things that we cannot see for a fact is, what is going to happen in the next second. So, we are constantly living in faith just to live. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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May 27, 2016, 04:50:44 PM |
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Science and religion were exactly different. Science is of true facts which has got evidence. Science is something innovative which is been developed and in some cases go in search of proof.
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May 27, 2016, 05:03:10 PM |
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Science is just another belief system, and like any belief system it can be abused. Before anyone starts flipping out I am not denying science has value or saying it is not valid. The problem with science is it is a fact that most people do not KNOW anything about it. Science is based on empirical data, IE first hand observation via the senses. This can take many forms and come via many different types of instruments. Most people never personally conducted any of these experiments to verify the validity of any of this data, they are simply accepting second hand information from others who have. As a result most science is simply just a collection of beliefs. You believe the scientist that collected the data did so correctly. You believe they don't have ulterior motives. You believe the peer reviews of said studies are accurate and not doctored. You believe the journals that publish them do not have ulterior motives.
Since most people don't have the knowledge or resources to replicate these experiments themselves, what most people call science is just a string of beliefs. In sort, unless you have witnessed it with your own senses, you are just practicing another belief system. As a result science can be manipulated and have many of the same flaws of any other belief system, especially considering the fact that there is still a lot that science still does not claim to know. This is important to understand, because without this knowledge one can fall into many of the same traps that plague religious believers by blindly just swallowing what others have told you and accepting it as fact rather than a possible unknown.
Wow.. Nailed it! Science is just another belief system that happens to have some facts that everybody would agree on, same as any other religion. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) Sorry but that is totaly wrong. Science doesnt need faith to work. That people are willing to accept x without proof and fact checking doesnt make science a belief system - logical fallacy here. I know that anybody on planet earth except the mentally challenged can research and understand any scientific fact with just enough time and discipline.
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May 27, 2016, 08:25:51 PM |
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Science is just another belief system, and like any belief system it can be abused. Before anyone starts flipping out I am not denying science has value or saying it is not valid. The problem with science is it is a fact that most people do not KNOW anything about it. Science is based on empirical data, IE first hand observation via the senses. This can take many forms and come via many different types of instruments. Most people never personally conducted any of these experiments to verify the validity of any of this data, they are simply accepting second hand information from others who have. As a result most science is simply just a collection of beliefs. You believe the scientist that collected the data did so correctly. You believe they don't have ulterior motives. You believe the peer reviews of said studies are accurate and not doctored. You believe the journals that publish them do not have ulterior motives.
Since most people don't have the knowledge or resources to replicate these experiments themselves, what most people call science is just a string of beliefs. In sort, unless you have witnessed it with your own senses, you are just practicing another belief system. As a result science can be manipulated and have many of the same flaws of any other belief system, especially considering the fact that there is still a lot that science still does not claim to know. This is important to understand, because without this knowledge one can fall into many of the same traps that plague religious believers by blindly just swallowing what others have told you and accepting it as fact rather than a possible unknown.
Wow.. Nailed it! Science is just another belief system that happens to have some facts that everybody would agree on, same as any other religion. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) Sorry but that is totaly wrong. Science doesnt need faith to work. That people are willing to accept x without proof and fact checking doesnt make science a belief system - logical fallacy here. I know that anybody on planet earth except the mentally challenged can research and understand any scientific fact with just enough time and discipline. Well, is science theory part of science or not? Do people believe that science theory is fact or not? If science theory is fact, then why is it not called science fact? The point is, science theory is not known to be fact. Yet there are many people who believe some of science theory to be true. Not only do they believe it, but they go around telling other people that it is true and real and factual when they don't know that it is true and real and factual. Why do they believe this way? They believe based on faith. A good example of this is that many people in NASA say that Big Bang is real when it is just a theory. The theory doesn't say it is real, and it doesn't say that it is not real. We don't know via science if BB is real or not. When people act like Big Bang is real, believing it to be so, they have a Big Bang religion going for themselves, because nobody knows if it is real or not. Science may not have always been like this. There may have been a time before science theory that science was based in complete fact. But now that it is partly based in theory (unknowns), science is religion. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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