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[rdewilde]

I wonder when people would be convinced ION is no scam? You need coincode? Features? Ledger for ant assets and/or spendings? People signing documents? More time? More commitment? More hours? More info? More value? Higher price? Other partners? More trading volume?


... when will you rest assured?

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[WildShark]

I wonder when people would be convinced ION is no scam? You need coincode? Features? Ledger for ant assets and/or spendings? People signing documents? More time? More commitment? More hours? More info? More value? Higher price? Other partners? More trading volume?


... when will you rest assured?

This question could be a good candidate for suchmoon's Bitcointalk ION agenda document... document the "real" answer to when is ION a scam?? and the shilling by the BCT trolls will stop???

[suchmoon]

I wonder when people would be convinced ION is no scam? You need coincode? Features? Ledger for ant assets and/or spendings? People signing documents? More time? More commitment? More hours? More info? More value? Higher price? Other partners? More trading volume?


... when will you rest assured?

It depends on how far you're willing to bend the definition of "scam".

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/scam


Edited 2020-11-29 to fix a broken image

It looks like the easiest way to make it "not a scam" would be to operate honestly and without deception. That's going to be impossible with characters like MrCoins, WildShark, korvas128, and others shilling for ION.

This question could be a good candidate for suchmoon's Bitcointalk ION agenda document... document the "real" answer to when is ION a scam?? and the shilling by the BCT trolls will stop???

Case in point.

[Franz_Huber]

I wonder when people would be convinced ION is no scam? You need coincode? Features? Ledger for ant assets and/or spendings? People signing documents? More time? More commitment? More hours? More info? More value? Higher price? Other partners? More trading volume?

... when will you rest assured?

I would start considering the possibility of ION not being a scam if Ionomy

* posts all the premine addresses
* posts the addresses of all team stakers/masternodes
* posts the burn addresses of all XPY that were exchanged into ION
* shows the registration of Ionomy PTE in Singapore
* publishes one game a month like they announced they would
* stops selling offchain tokens such as "atoms" and "electrons" that have nothing to do with cryptocurrency
* stops selling hyperinflating wallets that have nothing to do with real POS
* stops selling pretty PNG files (aka "skins") for their version of hashlets
* starts giving real answers to questions in their public forum thread instead of giving useless pseudo answers in a chat

That would be a start.

[WildShark]

Ionomy Updates

Hello ionomy,

 Updates are abound as we head toward the holiday season!

 ionomy will be switching into high gear over the next few weeks as we work toward the Crtypo Gravity beta, updates to the core coin code, and the expansion of the ionomy.com platform offerings.
 

ION testnet updated

 Testing of the next ion wallet release has begun on the ion-testnet. This update will feature several GUI fixes and updates. In addition, this update will address the slow block time issues ion has experienced since launch. It is important to note the next wallet update will be a HARD FORK update, requiring all ION wallets to be updated to the latest version.


 To assist with the testnet phase of the update please join us on ionomy slack by signing up at slack.ionomy.com and joining the #ion-testnet channel. Please watch this space for updates about the next phase of testnet testing and the future releases.
 
 
Buy ION Direct

 Altcoin purchasing has been enabled for all ionomy users. Registered users can now purchase ION directly using nearly 40 Altcoins including Ethereum and Zcash. Simply click the new “Buy ION” tab, select the coin you’d like to exchange, and send to the generated address to receive ION directly to your ionomy account.

 All ION purchased through the “Buy ION” page contributes directly to the market depth of ION. Currently set to automatically place a buy order of 15% below purchase price with the same total ION volume. Every direct buy using alternate currency will be used to build buy depth of ION directly on exchanges. 
•Example Transaction. User buys 5 ION at a value of .0002. And the user is credited 5 ION. Then a buy order is automatically placed on the exchange for 5 ION at the value of  0.000185

Are you Mining? Make sure you don't send coins directly from mining pools.  For best service please use private wallets when doing quick exchanges.  Please contact ionomy support if you encounter any issues.
 
 

As always ionomy thanks all of our customers. We’d like to extend a special acknowledgment to our ion-testnet testers for their ongoing contributions to the core code and the coming update.


 Keep an eye on your email, ionomy.com and ionomy slack in the coming days and weeks for more news about the next phase of ionomy.


 Regards,


 The ionomy Team
 
 

[CryptoBuds]

Ionomy Updates

Hello ionomy,

 Updates are abound as we head toward the holiday season!

 ionomy will be switching into high gear over the next few weeks as we work toward the Crtypo Gravity beta, updates to the core coin code, and the expansion of the ionomy.com platform offerings.
 

ION testnet updated

 Testing of the next ion wallet release has begun on the ion-testnet. This update will feature several GUI fixes and updates. In addition, this update will address the slow block time issues ion has experienced since launch. It is important to note the next wallet update will be a HARD FORK update, requiring all ION wallets to be updated to the latest version.


 To assist with the testnet phase of the update please join us on ionomy slack by signing up at slack.ionomy.com and joining the #ion-testnet channel. Please watch this space for updates about the next phase of testnet testing and the future releases.
 
 
Buy ION Direct

 Altcoin purchasing has been enabled for all ionomy users. Registered users can now purchase ION directly using nearly 40 Altcoins including Ethereum and Zcash. Simply click the new “Buy ION” tab, select the coin you’d like to exchange, and send to the generated address to receive ION directly to your ionomy account.

 All ION purchased through the “Buy ION” page contributes directly to the market depth of ION. Currently set to automatically place a buy order of 15% below purchase price with the same total ION volume. Every direct buy using alternate currency will be used to build buy depth of ION directly on exchanges. 
•Example Transaction. User buys 5 ION at a value of .0002. And the user is credited 5 ION. Then a buy order is automatically placed on the exchange for 5 ION at the value of  0.000185

Are you Mining? Make sure you don't send coins directly from mining pools.  For best service please use private wallets when doing quick exchanges.  Please contact ionomy support if you encounter any issues.
 
 

As always ionomy thanks all of our customers. We’d like to extend a special acknowledgment to our ion-testnet testers for their ongoing contributions to the core code and the coming update.


 Keep an eye on your email, ionomy.com and ionomy slack in the coming days and weeks for more news about the next phase of ionomy.


 Regards,


 The ionomy Team
 
 

What happens if there isn't enough IONs available to fill the buy order? What if people don't want to sell their IONs for 15% below the price they purchased at?

[suchmoon]

What happens if there isn't enough IONs available to fill the buy order? What if people don't want to sell their IONs for 15% below the price they purchased at?

Even if the order gets filled the 15% "fee" sounds quite steep, and of course it's again the slow and obsolete BTC that the team wants to keep. I know, nice guys and all, but that's just some thinly veiled bullshit.

[WildShark]

What happens if there isn't enough IONs available to fill the buy order? What if people don't want to sell their IONs for 15% below the price they purchased at?

Even if the order gets filled the 15% "fee" sounds quite steep, and of course it's again the slow and obsolete BTC that the team wants to keep. I know, nice guys and all, but that's just some thinly veiled bullshit.

Is it a "scam" if they charge 15%... that seems to be a little low for a scam???

[WildShark]

Ionomy Updates

Hello ionomy,

 Updates are abound as we head toward the holiday season!

 ionomy will be switching into high gear over the next few weeks as we work toward the Crtypo Gravity beta, updates to the core coin code, and the expansion of the ionomy.com platform offerings.
 

ION testnet updated

 Testing of the next ion wallet release has begun on the ion-testnet. This update will feature several GUI fixes and updates. In addition, this update will address the slow block time issues ion has experienced since launch. It is important to note the next wallet update will be a HARD FORK update, requiring all ION wallets to be updated to the latest version.


 To assist with the testnet phase of the update please join us on ionomy slack by signing up at slack.ionomy.com and joining the #ion-testnet channel. Please watch this space for updates about the next phase of testnet testing and the future releases.
 
 
Buy ION Direct

 Altcoin purchasing has been enabled for all ionomy users. Registered users can now purchase ION directly using nearly 40 Altcoins including Ethereum and Zcash. Simply click the new “Buy ION” tab, select the coin you’d like to exchange, and send to the generated address to receive ION directly to your ionomy account.

 All ION purchased through the “Buy ION” page contributes directly to the market depth of ION. Currently set to automatically place a buy order of 15% below purchase price with the same total ION volume. Every direct buy using alternate currency will be used to build buy depth of ION directly on exchanges. 
•Example Transaction. User buys 5 ION at a value of .0002. And the user is credited 5 ION. Then a buy order is automatically placed on the exchange for 5 ION at the value of  0.000185

Are you Mining? Make sure you don't send coins directly from mining pools.  For best service please use private wallets when doing quick exchanges.  Please contact ionomy support if you encounter any issues.
 
 

As always ionomy thanks all of our customers. We’d like to extend a special acknowledgment to our ion-testnet testers for their ongoing contributions to the core code and the coming update.


 Keep an eye on your email, ionomy.com and ionomy slack in the coming days and weeks for more news about the next phase of ionomy.


 Regards,


 The ionomy Team
 
 

What happens if there isn't enough IONs available to fill the buy order? What if people don't want to sell their IONs for 15% below the price they purchased at?

The bids just get readjusted after a long period of time if they are not dump into...

[suchmoon]

What happens if there isn't enough IONs available to fill the buy order? What if people don't want to sell their IONs for 15% below the price they purchased at?

Even if the order gets filled the 15% "fee" sounds quite steep, and of course it's again the slow and obsolete BTC that the team wants to keep. I know, nice guys and all, but that's just some thinly veiled bullshit.

Is it a "scam" if they charge 15%... that seems to be a little low for a scam???

Why are you asking me? I don't give a shit if it's a scam or not, it's your money that's invested with the "nice guys".

It is bullshit though. As in "we're calling it buy depth but it's actually a 15-100% fee" type of bullshit.

The bids just get readjusted after a long period of time if they are not dump into...

How long is the period of time and what price are the bids readjusted to?

[Franz_Huber]

Is it a "scam" if they charge 15%... that seems to be a little low for a scam???

No, WildShark. ION is considered a scam because Ionomy did not do these things yet:

* post all the premine addresses
* post the addresses of all team stakers/masternodes
* post the burn addresses of all XPY that were exchanged into ION
* show the registration of Ionomy PTE in Singapore
* publish one game a month like they announced they would
* stop selling offchain tokens such as "atoms" and "electrons" that have nothing to do with cryptocurrency
* stop selling hyperinflating wallets that have nothing to do with real POS
* stop selling pretty PNG files (aka "skins") for their version of hashlets
* start giving real answers to questions in their public forum thread instead of giving useless pseudo answers in a chat

In other words, ION seems like a scam because it's such an intransparent, premined, hyperinflating fake-POS coin with additional offchain tokens and a ponzi-like structure.

[CryptoBuds]

I wonder when people would be convinced ION is no scam? You need coincode? Features? Ledger for ant assets and/or spendings? People signing documents? More time? More commitment? More hours? More info? More value? Higher price? Other partners? More trading volume?


... when will you rest assured?

I personally don't think that ION is a scam. But I would think, with their past experiences, that they would have made ION the most transparent crypto operation out there. Instead, they went the EXACT opposite. Very little transparency and the main focus of the project doesn't even involve crypto and actually doesn't need the coin at all. Them not answering simple questions or publishing their addresses make it look like they are doing something shady. And then laughing out loud when people ask for more transparency. What are they hiding? Why won't they answer questions or post their addresses? They'll say because of the "trolls". But if they have nothing to hide, what would the "trolls" really be able to do? "Troll"  is an excuse everyone needs to stop using.


 I know they posted some and then those addresses brought on more questions. For instance, where are the 1 million plus coins that were minted from the premine coins they had?

It's almost like they don't want anymore people in the Ionomy than they have right now. Which is all fine and good. But why this thread then?

[korvas128]

I wonder when people would be convinced ION is no scam? You need coincode? Features? Ledger for ant assets and/or spendings? People signing documents? More time? More commitment? More hours? More info? More value? Higher price? Other partners? More trading volume?


... when will you rest assured?

I personally don't think that ION is a scam. But I would think, with their past experiences, that they would have made ION the most transparent crypto operation out there. Instead, they went the EXACT opposite. Very little transparency and the main focus of the project doesn't even involve crypto and actually doesn't need the coin at all. Them not answering simple questions or publishing their addresses make it look like they are doing something shady. And then laughing out loud when people ask for more transparency. What are they hiding? Why won't they answer questions or post their addresses? They'll say because of the "trolls". But if they have nothing to hide, what would the "trolls" really be able to do? "Troll"  is an excuse everyone needs to stop using.


 I know they posted some and then those addresses brought on more questions. For instance, where are the 1 million plus coins that were minted from the premine coins they had?

It's almost like they don't want anymore people in the Ionomy than they have right now. Which is all fine and good. But why this thread then?

You personally don't think ION is a scam..... no shit sherlock

A couple of posts ago you said I was shilling because over these past months I've tried to defend ION from various baseless scam accusations.

So when did your very own personnal epiphany happen was it before or after you had enough ION for your masternode   

[rdewilde]

I wonder when people would be convinced ION is no scam? You need coincode? Features? Ledger for ant assets and/or spendings? People signing documents? More time? More commitment? More hours? More info? More value? Higher price? Other partners? More trading volume?

... when will you rest assured?

I would start considering the possibility of ION not being a scam if Ionomy

* posts all the premine addresses
* posts the addresses of all team stakers/masternodes
* posts the burn addresses of all XPY that were exchanged into ION
* shows the registration of Ionomy PTE in Singapore
* publishes one game a month like they announced they would
* stops selling offchain tokens such as "atoms" and "electrons" that have nothing to do with cryptocurrency
* stops selling hyperinflating wallets that have nothing to do with real POS
* stops selling pretty PNG files (aka "skins") for their version of hashlets
* starts giving real answers to questions in their public forum thread instead of giving useless pseudo answers in a chat

That would be a start.

I'm not looking for a start, I'd like to know where it ends

[Phildo]

I wonder when people would be convinced ION is no scam? You need coincode? Features? Ledger for ant assets and/or spendings? People signing documents? More time? More commitment? More hours? More info? More value? Higher price? Other partners? More trading volume?


... when will you rest assured?

Do you get a medal for it being declared "not a scam" but still a shitty investment that only makes money for the team?

That's the part I don't get about all of this. Paycoin was a shitty investment and wouldn't have worked even if Garza wasn't a scumbag. So they've removed Garza and still have a shitty pos coin with no purpose and insane inflation and zero incentive for anyone to buy them.

[CryptoBuds]

I wonder when people would be convinced ION is no scam? You need coincode? Features? Ledger for ant assets and/or spendings? People signing documents? More time? More commitment? More hours? More info? More value? Higher price? Other partners? More trading volume?


... when will you rest assured?

I personally don't think that ION is a scam. But I would think, with their past experiences, that they would have made ION the most transparent crypto operation out there. Instead, they went the EXACT opposite. Very little transparency and the main focus of the project doesn't even involve crypto and actually doesn't need the coin at all. Them not answering simple questions or publishing their addresses make it look like they are doing something shady. And then laughing out loud when people ask for more transparency. What are they hiding? Why won't they answer questions or post their addresses? They'll say because of the "trolls". But if they have nothing to hide, what would the "trolls" really be able to do? "Troll"  is an excuse everyone needs to stop using.


 I know they posted some and then those addresses brought on more questions. For instance, where are the 1 million plus coins that were minted from the premine coins they had?

It's almost like they don't want anymore people in the Ionomy than they have right now. Which is all fine and good. But why this thread then?

You personally don't think ION is a scam..... no shit sherlock

A couple of posts ago you said I was shilling because over these past months I've tried to defend ION from various baseless scam accusations.

So when did your very own personnal epiphany happen was it before or after you had enough ION for your masternode   

of you'd answer simple questions, you wouldn't have to self declare yourself as a baseless scam buster.  But for some reason that eludes you and you just like to argue. So I'll tee that up for you. Go ahead, attack my character some more. Just remember, you paid to be important. So be important. Same some big words, talk down to me all the while leaving the glaring red flags fly in the wind. And I bet you'll ask "what red flags are those?". And that question right there is why this thread should be closed.

Bam, full circle. You sure are fun to converse with.

[WildShark]

What happens if there isn't enough IONs available to fill the buy order? What if people don't want to sell their IONs for 15% below the price they purchased at?

Even if the order gets filled the 15% "fee" sounds quite steep, and of course it's again the slow and obsolete BTC that the team wants to keep. I know, nice guys and all, but that's just some thinly veiled bullshit.

Is it a "scam" if they charge 15%... that seems to be a little low for a scam???

Why are you asking me? I don't give a shit if it's a scam or not, it's your money that's invested with the "nice guys".

It is bullshit though. As in "we're calling it buy depth but it's actually a 15-100% fee" type of bullshit.

The bids just get readjusted after a long period of time if they are not dump into...

How long is the period of time and what price are the bids readjusted to?

Going to ask you to add this question to suchmoon's Bitcointalk ION agenda document.. The details of the function's algorithm has not been released to the public.. In simple terms, Company Private information

[suchmoon]

Do you get a medal for it being declared "not a scam" but still a shitty investment that only makes money for the team?

"They need to make money because it's a business and not a charity".

glaring red flags

"That's not red flags, that's company private information".

Company Private information

Exactly.

Except the company doesn't exist but who cares about minor details like that.

See the whales have excuses that can be applied to anything ionomy does or doesn't do. It's pointless albeit amusing to argue with them.

[suchmoon]

i believe they finally paid bittrex 3BTC fee and might get listed in the near future. sharkie can finally stop saying how coinmarketcap is so biased. if 2 public exchanges do not reflect their internal one at all, its pretty obvious whats going on.

who wants to wager if the company name they will give out to bittrex is 3re llc located in texas which matlack is the CEO of? when a coin is premined they check up on these things as well as verify the devs. what are the implications of such move? woudnt that automatically mean all those atoms were sold by a company in the US

If Bittrex actually follows their own rules then ionomy might have a bit of trouble with some of the requirements:

https://bittrex.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/202583854-Submitting-a-Coin-to-Bittrex

If you run a crowdfunding campaign on another platform or premined your coin and would like to get listed, the following additional requirements apply:

We may require a 3 BTC compliance fee for the additional due diligence we need to fulfill to list your coin

A link to publicly accessible information about the CFC terms.  We need to see exactly how any funds were raised and what was promised to crowdfunders

A link to publicly accessible information about the premine.  We'd like to know how large of a premine it was and what the intended purpose of the premine is

You must also meet our CFC compliance standards; most notably having a proof of developer done and disclosing the full name and location of a member of the coin development team

Of course Bittrex is known to have listed obvious scams like Bitstone so I guess the rules are flexible there.

[WildShark]

Buy IONs using Alt. coins or Mine your Alt. coin directly to Ionomy wallet and get IONs!!!

https://ionomy.com/buy/ion

The buying part I get.

How do you mine an alt coin using the Ionomy wallet?

Set your payout addy for the mining to the corresponding coin address generated on your Ionomy account.



One of the good programs to mine alt. coins with is Minergate
https://minergate.com/downloads/gui

Does this only accept the respective alt coin to convert to ION or is each alt an actual wallet that can provide outgoing transactions and well as accept them?

It is only a deposit wallet used for converting to IONs for each of the supported coin types

What exchange are they using for the exchange rate?

or you can use suchmoon's unbiased "right" answer cause the "team" is not transparent:

Where are those IONs coming from? Sharkie still pretending no to be concerned at all that the "team" is dumping the premine in increasingly elaborate ways?

My apologies, let me rephrase my question. First off, I never mentioned or brought up suchmoon in this dialogue, so please don't drag him in as an argument aid. Anyway, what I really meant was what exchange is being used to give the alt coins their value? Why is 1 ETH worth 80 ION? Where did that value for ETH come from? That's what I meant initially, could have worded it better. My apologies again.

The value of the alt coin is determined from shapeshift. The value for the ION is determined by above procedure described by Huey...

i see shapeshift also adjust the min amount too

@suchmoon Your proof for your question can be "notice the small buy orders in the Ionomy exchange that have been appearing since yesterday". When the email goes out, the process will be explained. This buy support will build and over time it could be a significant dampener on potential future dumps on the Ionomy exchange...

Isn't this just a way they can dump their endless ION supply for currencies that they can convert into btc then cash out, can't believe anyone is stupid enough to think this is a good thing

The smart person would see that this is a service provided by Ionomy to put "buy pressure" on the exchange for ION... This also is another option to crypto users to convert their alt coin to IONs without the bothers of using a "direct" exchange...

What happens if there isn't enough ION coins for sale on the internal exchange? Does the transfer get put in hold until those coins become available? Or do those coins come from some other source?

i'm guessing that Ionomy has a pool of IONs that they are using to fill the order immediately and the buy order sits on the exchange... I will get a "real" answer when Huey wakes up...

Now the question is: where did that pool of IONs come from? If the IONs are coming from the "team", then this just got real shady as the "team" controls the premine.

I got to laugh at this one and say the pool comes from your account so this Ionomy service is NOT shady!!!

Why are you laughing? Seriously, where will this pool of IONs come from? If they are not enough on the exchange, where do the extra come from?

I thought it was a good laugh saying the pool would be created from Cryptobuds account and theirfore it wouldn't be shady. Don't you remember that Cryptobuds bought enough IONs to run a Masternode??? and would gladly use them to prime the ION purchasing pool... lol

The "real" answer is there is a pool of IONs being maintained by Ionomy (ION purchasing pool), that are being used to "buy the IONs" for instant transaction. The bid is placed on the Ionomy market and when that trade occurs, the IONs are added back into the pool to replenish it for consecutive ION purchases...

You can use your computer's CPUs & GPUs with the Minergate program to mine alt coins and send your payout to Ionomy's "Buy ION" service and receive IONs in your Ionomy wallet...

Download Minergate miner: https://minergate.com/downloads/gui


You can use your Windows computer's CPUs & GPUs with the NiceHash program to mine Bitcoin and set your auto payout to Ionomy's wallet. Use the Ionomy Exchange to convert your Bitcoin and receive IONs in your Ionomy wallet...

Download NiceHash miner: https://www.nicehash.com/?p=nhmintro