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October 12, 2016, 04:24:34 PM
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ION is a blockchain based decentralized cryptocurrency that rewards network participation via static proof of stake. ION rewards "connectivity age" instead of “coin age,” thus eliminating abuse from exchanges and users that do not actively contribute to the network. By having a static reward system, the rewards for participation are proportional to the work every active node contributes. This discourages centralization and promotes network health. In addition to static rewards, ION implements a masternode network to incentivize large holders, and perform advanced functions such as near instant and private transactions.

The long term vision for ION is a thriving cryptocurrency ecosystem centered on gaming and digital goods.

"Wild onION" Visit the depot using the following invitation @ http://invite.wildsdepot.com
ION Master Node[10K IONs] + ION Smart Node[500 Atoms] + All ION Staking Wallets = 18 IONs Block Reward for WILD Innovative ION Network ownership (WIN concept)
Plan Details: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1443633.msg50248724#msg50248724
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October 12, 2016, 04:26:13 PM
Last edit: October 12, 2016, 04:38:53 PM by suchmoon
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DEFINITIVE PROOF that there is no insider trading 1 :

1) Game is AWESOME (MrCon said so).
2) Whales are NOT buying ION.





1 Warning - paycoiner logic has been applied to the above post to enhance the ridicule. Any resemblance to people living or dead is purely coincidental.

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October 12, 2016, 04:38:17 PM
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ION is a blockchain based decentralized cryptocurrency that rewards network participation via static proof of stake. ION rewards "connectivity age" instead of “coin age,” thus eliminating abuse from exchanges and users that do not actively contribute to the network. By having a static reward system, the rewards for participation are proportional to the work every active node contributes. This discourages centralization and promotes network health. In addition to static rewards, ION implements a masternode network to incentivize large holders, and perform advanced functions such as near instant and private transactions.

The long term vision for ION is a thriving cryptocurrency ecosystem centered on gaming and digital goods.

Very good job copying the first paragraph of the whitepaper.

"Static Proof of Stake" is not new. Ironically PayCon (Paycoin parody) had a static block reward since early 2015 and of course Blackcoin does too. ION just tweaked the numbers towards hyperinflation. Masternodes are from Dash.

What else do you have sharkie?


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October 12, 2016, 05:12:35 PM
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DEFINITIVE PROOF that there is no insider trading 1 :

1) Game is AWESOME (MrCon said so).
2) Whales are NOT buying ION.





1 Warning - paycoiner logic has been applied to the above post to enhance the ridicule. Any resemblance to people living or dead is purely coincidental.

Just my luck missed out on some cheap ION...... did you buy any ?

Ionomy V3 for Wallets - Masternodes - Trading - Games
https://ionomy.com/en/aff/46cbe5fa1d262e23665191a7c7864072


For the few TROLLS left some inconvenient statements of FACT
https://news.ionomy.com/just-to-be-clear/
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October 12, 2016, 05:25:30 PM
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Just my luck missed out on some cheap ION...... did you buy any ?

Don't worry, it will be cheaper tomorrow. I didn't buy, why would I do that.

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October 12, 2016, 06:16:51 PM
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ION is a blockchain based decentralized cryptocurrency that rewards network participation via static proof of stake. ION rewards "connectivity age" instead of “coin age,” thus eliminating abuse from exchanges and users that do not actively contribute to the network. By having a static reward system, the rewards for participation are proportional to the work every active node contributes. This discourages centralization and promotes network health. In addition to static rewards, ION implements a masternode network to incentivize large holders, and perform advanced functions such as near instant and private transactions.

The long term vision for ION is a thriving cryptocurrency ecosystem centered on gaming and digital goods.


How many masternodes does the team own? And encouraging everyone to buy stakers is giving all the control to TeamION...centralized.

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October 12, 2016, 06:46:38 PM
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Ionomy/ION hasn't even started yet and you already pass a judgement of failure

awesome. what a great statement

  10 900 000 ions at launch
~14 000 000 ions right now

we know the team stakes their majority premine, "to battle inflation"  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes. combine that with delaying their product(s).... what should we call this? plain stealing or super duper incompetence


small investors => paycoined!


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October 12, 2016, 07:34:25 PM
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Just my luck missed out on some cheap ION...... did you buy any ?

Don't worry, it will be cheaper tomorrow. I didn't buy, why would I do that.

Saving up for a MasterNode....market research ?

Ionomy V3 for Wallets - Masternodes - Trading - Games
https://ionomy.com/en/aff/46cbe5fa1d262e23665191a7c7864072


For the few TROLLS left some inconvenient statements of FACT
https://news.ionomy.com/just-to-be-clear/
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October 12, 2016, 07:52:55 PM
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ION is a blockchain based decentralized cryptocurrency that rewards network participation via static proof of stake. ION rewards "connectivity age" instead of “coin age,” thus eliminating abuse from exchanges and users that do not actively contribute to the network. By having a static reward system, the rewards for participation are proportional to the work every active node contributes. This discourages centralization and promotes network health. In addition to static rewards, ION implements a masternode network to incentivize large holders, and perform advanced functions such as near instant and private transactions.

The long term vision for ION is a thriving cryptocurrency ecosystem centered on gaming and digital goods.


How many masternodes does the team own? And encouraging everyone to buy stakers is giving all the control to TeamION...centralized.

@CryptoBuds I think you are very confused because there is no TeamION!

ION is a POS coin that has developers supporting and maintaining the new coin...

Masternodes are setup by the user when the user has 20K IONs to stake and shares in the blockchain rewards...

"Wild onION" Visit the depot using the following invitation @ http://invite.wildsdepot.com
ION Master Node[10K IONs] + ION Smart Node[500 Atoms] + All ION Staking Wallets = 18 IONs Block Reward for WILD Innovative ION Network ownership (WIN concept)
Plan Details: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1443633.msg50248724#msg50248724
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October 12, 2016, 08:19:29 PM
Last edit: October 12, 2016, 08:32:24 PM by CryptoBuds
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ION is a blockchain based decentralized cryptocurrency that rewards network participation via static proof of stake. ION rewards "connectivity age" instead of “coin age,” thus eliminating abuse from exchanges and users that do not actively contribute to the network. By having a static reward system, the rewards for participation are proportional to the work every active node contributes. This discourages centralization and promotes network health. In addition to static rewards, ION implements a masternode network to incentivize large holders, and perform advanced functions such as near instant and private transactions.

The long term vision for ION is a thriving cryptocurrency ecosystem centered on gaming and digital goods.


How many masternodes does the team own? And encouraging everyone to buy stakers is giving all the control to TeamION...centralized.

@CryptoBuds I think you are very confused because there is no TeamION!

ION is a POS coin that has developers supporting and maintaining the new coin...

Masternodes are setup by the user when the user has 20K IONs to stake and shares in the blockchain rewards...

Semantics. How many masternodes does the team own? How much of the premine is in masternodes? How many free coins is the team minting? And don't tell me there is no team. That's a blatant fucking lie and I'm not confused. You're the one looking through rose colored glasses. But you're in too deep to actually want to ask critical questions. You're nothing by a shill that comes up with every excuse to not answer questions.

If there is no TeamION as you insist, who controls the premine then?

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October 12, 2016, 08:33:42 PM
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ION is a blockchain based decentralized cryptocurrency that rewards network participation via static proof of stake. ION rewards "connectivity age" instead of “coin age,” thus eliminating abuse from exchanges and users that do not actively contribute to the network. By having a static reward system, the rewards for participation are proportional to the work every active node contributes. This discourages centralization and promotes network health. In addition to static rewards, ION implements a masternode network to incentivize large holders, and perform advanced functions such as near instant and private transactions.

The long term vision for ION is a thriving cryptocurrency ecosystem centered on gaming and digital goods.


How many masternodes does the team own? And encouraging everyone to buy stakers is giving all the control to TeamION...centralized.

@CryptoBuds I think you are very confused because there is no TeamION!

ION is a POS coin that has developers supporting and maintaining the new coin...

Masternodes are setup by the user when the user has 20K IONs to stake and shares in the blockchain rewards...

Sharkie, quit the word games, you know very well what "TeamION" means in this context, and you even had huey's answer about the size of the team etc posted in your FAQ.... speaking of which, where is your FAQ?


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October 12, 2016, 08:35:11 PM
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ION is a blockchain based decentralized cryptocurrency that rewards network participation via static proof of stake. ION rewards "connectivity age" instead of “coin age,” thus eliminating abuse from exchanges and users that do not actively contribute to the network. By having a static reward system, the rewards for participation are proportional to the work every active node contributes. This discourages centralization and promotes network health. In addition to static rewards, ION implements a masternode network to incentivize large holders, and perform advanced functions such as near instant and private transactions.

The long term vision for ION is a thriving cryptocurrency ecosystem centered on gaming and digital goods.


How many masternodes does the team own? And encouraging everyone to buy stakers is giving all the control to TeamION...centralized.

@CryptoBuds I think you are very confused because there is no TeamION!

ION is a POS coin that has developers supporting and maintaining the new coin...

Masternodes are setup by the user when the user has 20K IONs to stake and shares in the blockchain rewards...

Semantics. How many masternodes does the team own? How much of the premine is in masternodes? How many free coins is the team minting? And don't tell me there is no team. That's a blatant fucking lie and I'm not confused. You're the one looking through rose colored glasses. But you're in too deep to actually want to ask critical questions. You're nothing by a shill that comes up with every excuse to not answer questions.

Masternodes are decentralized and maintain by users with an ION wallet. Here is a screen shot showing that there is currently 151 ION Masternodes in the system.


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ION Master Node[10K IONs] + ION Smart Node[500 Atoms] + All ION Staking Wallets = 18 IONs Block Reward for WILD Innovative ION Network ownership (WIN concept)
Plan Details: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1443633.msg50248724#msg50248724
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October 12, 2016, 09:03:14 PM
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ION is a blockchain based decentralized cryptocurrency that rewards network participation via static proof of stake. ION rewards "connectivity age" instead of “coin age,” thus eliminating abuse from exchanges and users that do not actively contribute to the network. By having a static reward system, the rewards for participation are proportional to the work every active node contributes. This discourages centralization and promotes network health. In addition to static rewards, ION implements a masternode network to incentivize large holders, and perform advanced functions such as near instant and private transactions.

The long term vision for ION is a thriving cryptocurrency ecosystem centered on gaming and digital goods.


How many masternodes does the team own? And encouraging everyone to buy stakers is giving all the control to TeamION...centralized.

@CryptoBuds I think you are very confused because there is no TeamION!

ION is a POS coin that has developers supporting and maintaining the new coin...

Masternodes are setup by the user when the user has 20K IONs to stake and shares in the blockchain rewards...

Semantics. How many masternodes does the team own? How much of the premine is in masternodes? How many free coins is the team minting? And don't tell me there is no team. That's a blatant fucking lie and I'm not confused. You're the one looking through rose colored glasses. But you're in too deep to actually want to ask critical questions. You're nothing by a shill that comes up with every excuse to not answer questions.

Masternodes are decentralized and maintain by users with an ION wallet. Here is a screen shot showing that there is currently 151 ION Masternodes in the system.



I didn't ask how many masternodes there were total, quit dancing around the question. How many masternodes does the "team" control? Or whomever controls the premine, since you enjoy the word games.

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October 12, 2016, 09:13:53 PM
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Noticed something odd on the ionomy exchange today:



After a while:



Note how the same transactions have different timestamps (easier to see if you start at the bottom of the list). I think they are still struggling to make that exchange "breathe" properly.

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October 12, 2016, 09:15:43 PM
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ION is a blockchain based decentralized cryptocurrency that rewards network participation via static proof of stake. ION rewards "connectivity age" instead of “coin age,” thus eliminating abuse from exchanges and users that do not actively contribute to the network. By having a static reward system, the rewards for participation are proportional to the work every active node contributes. This discourages centralization and promotes network health. In addition to static rewards, ION implements a masternode network to incentivize large holders, and perform advanced functions such as near instant and private transactions.

The long term vision for ION is a thriving cryptocurrency ecosystem centered on gaming and digital goods.


How many masternodes does the team own? And encouraging everyone to buy stakers is giving all the control to TeamION...centralized.

@CryptoBuds I think you are very confused because there is no TeamION!

ION is a POS coin that has developers supporting and maintaining the new coin...

Masternodes are setup by the user when the user has 20K IONs to stake and shares in the blockchain rewards...

Semantics. How many masternodes does the team own? How much of the premine is in masternodes? How many free coins is the team minting? And don't tell me there is no team. That's a blatant fucking lie and I'm not confused. You're the one looking through rose colored glasses. But you're in too deep to actually want to ask critical questions. You're nothing by a shill that comes up with every excuse to not answer questions.

Masternodes are decentralized and maintain by users with an ION wallet. Here is a screen shot showing that there is currently 151 ION Masternodes in the system.



I didn't ask how many masternodes there were total, quit dancing around the question. How many masternodes does the "team" control? Or whomever controls the premine, since you enjoy the word games.

The only team that advertises their masternodes is the Community Masternode Project which is displayed below in the current payout:

Here is some blockchain information for the last Community Node Payout on 10 October.
MN1 Payout (iYQmYLTngqQHeVQzf3nZdDSAYW1wMmD9qC) - 253.0 IONs
MN2 Payout (iZiGkguV1JiFGCvyCKTPoWSikn5rDcT6Wg) - 471.50151 IONs
MN3 Payout (iiTsA1KMktJgmddiij8kADiak3LKBZyjm2) - 483.00052 IONs
MN4 Payout (iigQptDvFfiTgSiJz1qfJKqxrdzuyJ7jTR) - 460.00107 IONs
MN5 Payout (iUC8pCRCnKi4eA7mV38W2TLSopfWWoFdJ4) - 264.500015 IONs
Total Payout - 1932.003115 IONs

Daily Average Masternode Reward - 55.200089 IONs @ 14 cents = $7.73 dollars

Minus 1% Pool Fee - 1912.68308385 IONs by 2000 shares = 0.956341541925 IONs per Share

The payout for the MNs reflect a 7 day sum.

For more information on the payout, visit http://www.iontalk.net/t/masternode-status-for-10-october/243

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October 12, 2016, 09:19:24 PM
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Daily Average Masternode Reward - 55.200089 IONs @ 14 cents = $7.73 dollars

Shark, you're lying again. Exchange rate on Yobit is ~11-ish cents. Even ionomy.com says "1 ION = $0.13" (although the last trade was ~$0.12, go figure).

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October 12, 2016, 09:28:45 PM
Last edit: October 12, 2016, 10:28:47 PM by WildShark
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The only team that advertises their masternodes is the Community Masternode Project which is displayed below in the current payout:

Here is some blockchain information for the last Community Node Payout on 10 October
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MN1 Payout (iYQmYLTngqQHeVQzf3nZdDSAYW1wMmD9qC) - 253.0 IONs
MN2 Payout (iZiGkguV1JiFGCvyCKTPoWSikn5rDcT6Wg) - 471.50151 IONs
MN3 Payout (iiTsA1KMktJgmddiij8kADiak3LKBZyjm2) - 483.00052 IONs
MN4 Payout (iigQptDvFfiTgSiJz1qfJKqxrdzuyJ7jTR) - 460.00107 IONs
MN5 Payout (iUC8pCRCnKi4eA7mV38W2TLSopfWWoFdJ4) - 264.500015 IONs
Total Payout - 1932.003115 IONs

Daily Average Masternode Reward - 55.200089 IONs @ 14 cents = $7.73 dollars

Minus 1% Pool Fee - 1912.68308385 IONs by 2000 shares = 0.956341541925 IONs per Share

The payout for the MNs reflect a 7 day sum.

For more information on the payout, visit http://www.iontalk.net/t/masternode-status-for-10-october/243


Shark, you're lying again. Exchange rate on Yobit is ~11-ish cents. Even ionomy.com says "1 ION = $0.13" (although the last trade was ~$0.12, go figure).

@suchmoon I double checked my figures and they are very accurate and truefull...

Wildshark, you are a liar.

Edit: @suchmoon & Franz_Huber  You are very good at jumping and calling people a liar when you didn't take the time to read that this data is for the 10th of October!!!! it must be nice to hide your identity so people can't sue you!!!

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October 12, 2016, 10:01:44 PM
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The only team that advertises their masternodes is the Community Masternode Project which is displayed below in the current payout:

Here is some blockchain information for the last Community Node Payout on 10 October
.
MN1 Payout (iYQmYLTngqQHeVQzf3nZdDSAYW1wMmD9qC) - 253.0 IONs
MN2 Payout (iZiGkguV1JiFGCvyCKTPoWSikn5rDcT6Wg) - 471.50151 IONs
MN3 Payout (iiTsA1KMktJgmddiij8kADiak3LKBZyjm2) - 483.00052 IONs
MN4 Payout (iigQptDvFfiTgSiJz1qfJKqxrdzuyJ7jTR) - 460.00107 IONs
MN5 Payout (iUC8pCRCnKi4eA7mV38W2TLSopfWWoFdJ4) - 264.500015 IONs
Total Payout - 1932.003115 IONs

Daily Average Masternode Reward - 55.200089 IONs @ 14 cents = $7.73 dollars

Minus 1% Pool Fee - 1912.68308385 IONs by 2000 shares = 0.956341541925 IONs per Share

The payout for the MNs reflect a 7 day sum.

For more information on the payout, visit http://www.iontalk.net/t/masternode-status-for-10-october/243


Shark, you're lying again. Exchange rate on Yobit is ~11-ish cents. Even ionomy.com says "1 ION = $0.13" (although the last trade was ~$0.12, go figure).

@suchmoon I double checked my figures and they are very accurate and truefull...

Wildshark, you are a liar.
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October 12, 2016, 10:09:53 PM
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ION is a blockchain based decentralized cryptocurrency that rewards network participation via static proof of stake. ION rewards "connectivity age" instead of “coin age,” thus eliminating abuse from exchanges and users that do not actively contribute to the network. By having a static reward system, the rewards for participation are proportional to the work every active node contributes. This discourages centralization and promotes network health. In addition to static rewards, ION implements a masternode network to incentivize large holders, and perform advanced functions such as near instant and private transactions.

The long term vision for ION is a thriving cryptocurrency ecosystem centered on gaming and digital goods.


How many masternodes does the team own? And encouraging everyone to buy stakers is giving all the control to TeamION...centralized.

@CryptoBuds I think you are very confused because there is no TeamION!

ION is a POS coin that has developers supporting and maintaining the new coin...

Masternodes are setup by the user when the user has 20K IONs to stake and shares in the blockchain rewards...

Semantics. How many masternodes does the team own? How much of the premine is in masternodes? How many free coins is the team minting? And don't tell me there is no team. That's a blatant fucking lie and I'm not confused. You're the one looking through rose colored glasses. But you're in too deep to actually want to ask critical questions. You're nothing by a shill that comes up with every excuse to not answer questions.

Masternodes are decentralized and maintain by users with an ION wallet. Here is a screen shot showing that there is currently 151 ION Masternodes in the system.



I didn't ask how many masternodes there were total, quit dancing around the question. How many masternodes does the "team" control? Or whomever controls the premine, since you enjoy the word games.

The only team that advertises their masternodes is the Community Masternode Project which is displayed below in the current payout:

Here is some blockchain information for the last Community Node Payout on 10 October.
MN1 Payout (iYQmYLTngqQHeVQzf3nZdDSAYW1wMmD9qC) - 253.0 IONs
MN2 Payout (iZiGkguV1JiFGCvyCKTPoWSikn5rDcT6Wg) - 471.50151 IONs
MN3 Payout (iiTsA1KMktJgmddiij8kADiak3LKBZyjm2) - 483.00052 IONs
MN4 Payout (iigQptDvFfiTgSiJz1qfJKqxrdzuyJ7jTR) - 460.00107 IONs
MN5 Payout (iUC8pCRCnKi4eA7mV38W2TLSopfWWoFdJ4) - 264.500015 IONs
Total Payout - 1932.003115 IONs

Daily Average Masternode Reward - 55.200089 IONs @ 14 cents = $7.73 dollars

Minus 1% Pool Fee - 1912.68308385 IONs by 2000 shares = 0.956341541925 IONs per Share

The payout for the MNs reflect a 7 day sum.

For more information on the payout, visit http://www.iontalk.net/t/masternode-status-for-10-october/243


So the core team refuses to disclose their masternodes? The masternodes that are filled with a bunch of unaccountable FREE coins. This project wreaks, especially with WildShill as the vocal face of ION.

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October 12, 2016, 10:21:15 PM
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ION is a blockchain based decentralized cryptocurrency that rewards network participation via static proof of stake. ION rewards "connectivity age" instead of “coin age,” thus eliminating abuse from exchanges and users that do not actively contribute to the network. By having a static reward system, the rewards for participation are proportional to the work every active node contributes. This discourages centralization and promotes network health. In addition to static rewards, ION implements a masternode network to incentivize large holders, and perform advanced functions such as near instant and private transactions.

The long term vision for ION is a thriving cryptocurrency ecosystem centered on gaming and digital goods.


How many masternodes does the team own? And encouraging everyone to buy stakers is giving all the control to TeamION...centralized.

@CryptoBuds I think you are very confused because there is no TeamION!

ION is a POS coin that has developers supporting and maintaining the new coin...

Masternodes are setup by the user when the user has 20K IONs to stake and shares in the blockchain rewards...

Semantics. How many masternodes does the team own? How much of the premine is in masternodes? How many free coins is the team minting? And don't tell me there is no team. That's a blatant fucking lie and I'm not confused. You're the one looking through rose colored glasses. But you're in too deep to actually want to ask critical questions. You're nothing by a shill that comes up with every excuse to not answer questions.

Masternodes are decentralized and maintain by users with an ION wallet. Here is a screen shot showing that there is currently 151 ION Masternodes in the system.



I didn't ask how many masternodes there were total, quit dancing around the question. How many masternodes does the "team" control? Or whomever controls the premine, since you enjoy the word games.

The only team that advertises their masternodes is the Community Masternode Project which is displayed below in the current payout:

Here is some blockchain information for the last Community Node Payout on 10 October.
MN1 Payout (iYQmYLTngqQHeVQzf3nZdDSAYW1wMmD9qC) - 253.0 IONs
MN2 Payout (iZiGkguV1JiFGCvyCKTPoWSikn5rDcT6Wg) - 471.50151 IONs
MN3 Payout (iiTsA1KMktJgmddiij8kADiak3LKBZyjm2) - 483.00052 IONs
MN4 Payout (iigQptDvFfiTgSiJz1qfJKqxrdzuyJ7jTR) - 460.00107 IONs
MN5 Payout (iUC8pCRCnKi4eA7mV38W2TLSopfWWoFdJ4) - 264.500015 IONs
Total Payout - 1932.003115 IONs

Daily Average Masternode Reward - 55.200089 IONs @ 14 cents = $7.73 dollars

Minus 1% Pool Fee - 1912.68308385 IONs by 2000 shares = 0.956341541925 IONs per Share

The payout for the MNs reflect a 7 day sum.

For more information on the payout, visit http://www.iontalk.net/t/masternode-status-for-10-october/243


So the core team refuses to disclose their masternodes?

If you are referring to Team Ionomy, suchmoon has asked this question in Ionomy Slack and got a reply that Huey believes that information is company private.

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Plan Details: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1443633.msg50248724#msg50248724
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