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If you have a lot of money and a knowledge on trading, obviously you can do so at your own will. Significant movements in prices require a lot of money and wouldn't be an instant feat. Leverage trading might also help, but still it depends to you how you do it.
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Only the big whales of 10.000 BTC would be able to have an impact on the price, and even then, it would be minimum.
We saw hundred of thousands of BTC stolen from Bitfinex and we saw a flash crash and we are already recovering. The amount of money you would need is simply too damn high.
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September 05, 2016, 04:23:50 PM |
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i think if some one or some group have big amount of bitcoin can do this because with big bitcoin in their wallet, they can make dump or pump the market and they can make effect on the rate of bitcoin but in note, maybe its just on one market, because if for all market, then its really need bigger amount of bitcoin, not only 100k or 1000k, but big amount.
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September 05, 2016, 06:08:18 PM |
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Only the big whales of 10.000 BTC would be able to have an impact on the price, and even then, it would be minimum.
We saw hundred of thousands of BTC stolen from Bitfinex and we saw a flash crash and we are already recovering. The amount of money you would need is simply too damn high.
Im agree with the minimum effects if ever big whales will pump or dump BTC10,000 in one full action. Why it has an after effect is because of those people who will bring with the trend that will build by those action by the big whales. And if most of the people will ride it, it's look like it was a price manipulation. But take note that my thoughts are only referring to bitcoin as other crypto is purely manipulated when there is a pump or dump.
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September 05, 2016, 06:09:25 PM |
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Why manipulate bitcoin? Altcoins are good.
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September 06, 2016, 08:30:23 AM |
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Why manipulate bitcoin? Altcoins are good.
Well, you have a good idea, bitcoin cannot be manipulated this days while altcoins can. I believe there are whales in altcoins and they can easily manipulate the price for their favor they are those people who are controlling the pump and dump game of altcoins and they are consistently making money on that method.
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September 06, 2016, 08:33:04 AM |
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i think if some one or some group have big amount of bitcoin can do this because with big bitcoin in their wallet, they can make dump or pump the market and they can make effect on the rate of bitcoin but in note, maybe its just on one market, because if for all market, then its really need bigger amount of bitcoin, not only 100k or 1000k, but big amount.
Whales already team up to get the price to move into a certain direction. This way of manipulating is very effective since they share the profits as it is a team effort. It makes them have more control over the market compared to them operating per individual.
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September 06, 2016, 11:33:58 AM |
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Why manipulate bitcoin? Altcoins are good.
Well, you have a good idea, bitcoin cannot be manipulated this days while altcoins can. I believe there are whales in altcoins and they can easily manipulate the price for their favor they are those people who are controlling the pump and dump game of altcoins and they are consistently making money on that method. It's pretty small chance to hope anyone can manipulated bitcoin price and yeah would be different with altcoin due in every coins has launch in back of them have a black wide to manipulation the price on the market.
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September 06, 2016, 03:37:21 PM |
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Only the big whales of 10.000 BTC would be able to have an impact on the price, and even then, it would be minimum.
We saw hundred of thousands of BTC stolen from Bitfinex and we saw a flash crash and we are already recovering. The amount of money you would need is simply too damn high.
thats right, i think you need to have a really big amount of money in order to manipulate the price and ordinary people cannot do that
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September 06, 2016, 03:45:49 PM |
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You need mass buyer around the world that agreeing to purchase bitcoin. Yes, there are some group that able to do that as the action can impact on their profit .... thats right, i think you need to have a really big amount of money in order to manipulate the price and ordinary people cannot do that
Remember the guy who seek for Pizza , BTC 10.000 If he hold his bitcoin until now, he able to manipulate the price right now ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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September 06, 2016, 04:42:14 PM |
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You need mass buyer around the world that agreeing to purchase bitcoin. Yes, there are some group that able to do that as the action can impact on their profit .... thats right, i think you need to have a really big amount of money in order to manipulate the price and ordinary people cannot do that
Remember the guy who seek for Pizza , BTC 10.000 If he hold his bitcoin until now, he able to manipulate the price right now ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) He would be a large whale, but there are plenty of other people who have a lot of bitcoin by now and they did take their chance to pump the price up. Because the yes i believe the halving can pump the price up but not to this extent. This was surely the work of some professional market manipulators.
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September 06, 2016, 11:19:25 PM |
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If you have a lot of money and a knowledge on trading, obviously you can do so at your own will. Significant movements in prices require a lot of money and wouldn't be an instant feat. Leverage trading might also help, but still it depends to you how you do it.
thats true, then you might manipulate the price a lot though there is no need to do that to be honest because you wont get anything good with that
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September 08, 2016, 03:03:20 PM |
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If you have a lot of money and a knowledge on trading, obviously you can do so at your own will. Significant movements in prices require a lot of money and wouldn't be an instant feat. Leverage trading might also help, but still it depends to you how you do it.
though it still would be really hard because i dont think that you would like to risk a lot of money when trying to manipulate
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September 21, 2016, 06:45:28 AM |
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If you have a lot of money and a knowledge on trading, obviously you can do so at your own will. Significant movements in prices require a lot of money and wouldn't be an instant feat. Leverage trading might also help, but still it depends to you how you do it.
though it still would be really hard because i dont think that you would like to risk a lot of money when trying to manipulate If you have a lot of funds, you can manipulate the price for the short term. But in the long term, the price is affected by supply and demand.
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September 21, 2016, 07:14:20 AM |
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Only big players can manipulate and play with the price action of bitcoin. Small players or participants can only wish they could. I don't know how much you must have to be able to influence price movement. For a small owners like me, I'll just let the price take its course and do necessary actions whenever the price is good enough for buying or selling.
Big players or a lot of little players working together in sync would be able to manipulate the market, but I would never even try to manipulate the price because I highly doubt we would be able to get it to work. I don't know why you would even try to bother and manipulate the price if you don't already have large holdings, most whales manipulate the price because they have large paychecks they can spend on Bitcoin, and can take the losses because it means they get more in the long term. While we play tic-tac-toe they're playing Korean Starcraft. I dont think there is such as a manner to manipulate the bitcoin i know for sure that the price of the bitcoin is not manipulated by people he is just doing what he needs to do off course.
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September 21, 2016, 07:38:23 AM |
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Why manipulate bitcoin? Altcoins are good.
Indeed, altcoins are definitely way easier to manipulate than Bitcoin. If you're invested in Bitcoin it would actually be risky to try and force price movement, it could easily backfire. You don't need a lot of money/BTC to influence the price of brand new altcoins, that's why there is a lot of pump and dump going on.
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September 21, 2016, 10:23:49 AM |
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You need mass buyer around the world that agreeing to purchase bitcoin. Yes, there are some group that able to do that as the action can impact on their profit .... thats right, i think you need to have a really big amount of money in order to manipulate the price and ordinary people cannot do that
Remember the guy who seek for Pizza , BTC 10.000 If he hold his bitcoin until now, he able to manipulate the price right now ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) For sure if the pizza guy would able to manage his bitcoin then it would surely affect the bitcoins price movement but sad to say that was before in the past which is somehow a very regretting situation. Manipulating price or moving bitcoins price would definitely need huge amounts of bitcoin to be sold or to be bought,
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September 21, 2016, 10:45:30 AM |
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You need mass buyer around the world that agreeing to purchase bitcoin. Yes, there are some group that able to do that as the action can impact on their profit .... thats right, i think you need to have a really big amount of money in order to manipulate the price and ordinary people cannot do that
Remember the guy who seek for Pizza , BTC 10.000 If he hold his bitcoin until now, he able to manipulate the price right now ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) For sure if the pizza guy would able to manage his bitcoin then it would surely affect the bitcoins price movement but sad to say that was before in the past which is somehow a very regretting situation. Manipulating price or moving bitcoins price would definitely need huge amounts of bitcoin to be sold or to be bought, I do not think users can manipulate the bitcoin price, if that is possible more users can do that to earn a lot of money in terms of bitcoin to make them billionaire that is why i am pretty sure that normal users can not manipulate the price
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September 21, 2016, 11:06:13 AM |
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It is too hard to manipulate the bitcoin price you need a lot of money to do that and I'm not sure it will be a success.
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September 21, 2016, 11:38:06 AM |
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For sure if the pizza guy would able to manage his bitcoin then it would surely affect the bitcoins price movement but sad to say that was before in the past which is somehow a very regretting situation. Manipulating price or moving bitcoins price would definitely need huge amounts of bitcoin to be sold or to be bought,
If we take that BTC10,000 today and someone dumped it, yes it will move the price down but not that much since I noticed that reaching the correction price today is more resistable with the support of the commonuity. Today's situation is different from the past where manipulation is just an easy task. There are many big whales today that has different aspects on how they will move their coins.
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