A4 Dominator - Pre-Order Group Buy - 280mh, roughly 1000w, $1800 + shipping

[Magnusd]

I am interested in ordering 1 unit, sign me up
I also would like to know which psu to order for it.

/Magnus

[Prelude]

I'm in for at least 1 or 2 units.

[AleScamHole]

I am interested in ordering 1 unit, sign me up
I also would like to know which psu to order for it.

/Magnus

lol brand new account, prob real credible to count your order ;p

o and the A4 dosent need a PSU, it's built in like all the A series miners.... drrr

[GenTarkin]

I have to say i am very disappointed with the final specs. Need more info before i decide to buy or not. Was looking at 2 or 3 but not sure now.

first news they accounced specs where much much better, better than knc titan. but 1000W per 260Mhs thats worse than KNC TITAN (how old knc titan is!!!). very disappoiting

Um...
Its better than Titan, but not by much.
Titan: 1500w @ 350mh - 4.3w/mh
A4: 1000w @ 260mh - 3.84w/mh

The Titan W are at the wall, who knows if the A4 quote is at the wall, if not then it could end up being worse than the Titan.

[Magnusd]

I am interested in ordering 1 unit, sign me up
I also would like to know which psu to order for it.

/Magnus

lol brand new account, prob real credible to count your order ;p

o and the A4 dosent need a PSU, it's built in like all the A series miners.... drrr

Well yes I am new to the forum, as I usually only read it. Anything I could do to add credibility just let me know.
Anyway I am serious about being part of the group order, count me in for 1 unit.
I have been mining for a while, but i use other type of mining equipment so I didnt know the PSU was included, now I know, thank you

[wolverine5pl]

would be interetsted in one unit.

[Longsnowsm]

I am interested in ordering 1 unit, sign me up
I also would like to know which psu to order for it.

/Magnus

lol brand new account, prob real credible to count your order ;p

o and the A4 dosent need a PSU, it's built in like all the A series miners.... drrr

This is actually a valid question in this case.  Innosilicon has indicated they are not including a PSU with this miner in order to cut down the shipping cost.  So we do need to know what PSU they recommend for the A4.  I have sent that question to Innosilicon, but I have not heard back from them yet.

So the added cost of a PSU is not factored into the price we have been given for the A4.  Just a heads up.

[charles2k]

I am interested in ordering 1 unit, sign me up
I also would like to know which psu to order for it.

This is actually a valid question in this case.  Innosilicon has indicated they are not including a PSU with this miner in order to cut down the shipping cost.  So we do need to know what PSU they recommend for the A4.  I have sent that question to Innosilicon, but I have not heard back from them yet.

So the added cost of a PSU is not factored into the price we have been given for the A4.  Just a heads up.

Maybe it is better, that PSU is not included. Last time (A2 110Mhash miners) their PSUs were disaster. After short time half of them were dead. They put inside usually some black noname OEM 1000W PSUs, but was needed at least 1100W, better 1200W.
But not all 1200W PSU is possible to put inside, because some of these are longer than free place. I used OCZ 1250W. Important is 6 independent PCI-E cables (not splitted). It is possible also use CPU ATX4+4 to PCIE adapter cable. Also not all previous Innosilicon hashing boards had the same PCIE connector. Some version 6 pin, some 8pin, some 180degrees rotated...

[cloudnthings]

When is payment required in a pre-order scenario?

[Searing]

When is payment required in a pre-order scenario?

We still need info from them imho..ie prototype video of unit....psu's needed...and such..............unless they inform us  we are a long way from
ordering...especially if they PLAN to get it out in Sept (and all asic makers of equip either for scrypt or sha-256 are usually late AT LEAST by ONE month)

They are gonna have to frigging dazzle me with support (45 day warranty) ..community support (firmware available to be tweaked by community on github)
and support in some manner after the 45 day warranty (advice on repairs..perhaps parts available for 3rd party support of some kind)

Most of the above would go a long way fro me to pre-order but I need to be razzle dazzled in some manner don't ya know ...before I ever do another pre-order
(ack BFL ack)

[cloudnthings]

So in the past, did pre-order mean everyone pays however many units they want to a main contact on this forum "x" months in advance and then waits? eg Money is  transferred in say July, everyone expects Sept delivery, it gets delayed and then it finally arrives x months later?

[r00tdude]

PM'd

I'm in for two on the first batch, three more on the second batch if all goes well with the first. My Titans need some buddies.

rootdude

[Longsnowsm]

So in the past, did pre-order mean everyone pays however many units they want to a main contact on this forum "x" months in advance and then waits? eg Money is  transferred in say July, everyone expects Sept delivery, it gets delayed and then it finally arrives x months later?

At this point Innosilicon has not indicated how they might want to handle the commitment to buy, payment, and shipping costs etc.  I am hoping that we can get these details from them soon.  I still have not heard anything back from them from my last list of questions that I sent them.  I have followed up with them, but still waiting at this time.

It is my understanding that Innosilicon is asking for payment up front for the pre-order.  So once we make the decision to buy then we would have to provide the payment for the number of units we want up front.  Then we would wait until the shipment date.  It is not my intention to be the "payment holder" for the pre-buy.  Once we reach the stage of this process where we plan to place the order I am hoping that Innosilicon will assist us with the handling of the payments directly to them.  If they do not want to do that then we can enlist the services of a forum member who is an escrow or trusted to handle funds for other members.  So we will wait to see how this progresses.  It looks like we have time to sort that end of things out.

Like others have mentioned here we still need to get some details and commitments from Innosilicon before we rush off and throw money at them! ROFL  Given how much the A4 timeline has slipped already others are making good observations that this time line we have been given may be in jeopardy already.  So it is a wait and see at this time.

Thanks again to everyone for chiming in on the pre-buy on the A4.  Hopefully we will get some news/feedback from Inno regarding the A4.

[r00tdude]

So in the past, did pre-order mean everyone pays however many units they want to a main contact on this forum "x" months in advance and then waits? eg Money is  transferred in say July, everyone expects Sept delivery, it gets delayed and then it finally arrives x months later?

At this point Innosilicon has not indicated how they might want to handle the commitment to buy, payment, and shipping costs etc.  I am hoping that we can get these details from them soon.  I still have not heard anything back from them from my last list of questions that I sent them.  I have followed up with them, but still waiting at this time.

It is my understanding that Innosilicon is asking for payment up front for the pre-order.  So once we make the decision to buy then we would have to provide the payment for the number of units we want up front.  Then we would wait until the shipment date.  It is not my intention to be the "payment holder" for the pre-buy.  Once we reach the stage of this process where we plan to place the order I am hoping that Innosilicon will assist us with the handling of the payments directly to them.  If they do not want to do that then we can enlist the services of a forum member who is an escrow or trusted to handle funds for other members.  So we will wait to see how this progresses.  It looks like we have time to sort that end of things out.

Like others have mentioned here we still need to get some details and commitments from Innosilicon before we rush off and throw money at them! ROFL  Given how much the A4 timeline has slipped already others are making good observations that this time line we have been given may be in jeopardy already.  So it is a wait and see at this time.

Thanks again to everyone for chiming in on the pre-buy on the A4.  Hopefully we will get some news/feedback from Inno regarding the A4.

Eh - I started reading back through the threads. Unless someone convinces me there are going to be units shipped, I'm not throwing good BTC against a dream of a marginally successful rig that isn't light years ahead of what I have already. IDK - let's see what they come back with. I don't do pre-orders and everyone here knows why we generally don't do 'em.

[wlefever]

Might be interested once preorder is over and more info available.  Bookmarking for now...

[excelerator]

I'd pay the ~$60.00 at https://www.escrow.com/ as part  of an $1800 pre-order to secure  my investment.

Here's a pre-order trip down memory lane for many people here.
http://cryptomining-blog.com/3066-the-gawminers-vaultbreaker-with-50-higher-hashrate/

[alucard20724]

well... i'm definitely interested in this.   I was on the litecointalk.org site all the time before it got hacked and became worthless.

I've got one of the uber expensive titans still mining.. 

Sweet!  The Titan has been the efficiency king.  How many A4's do you think you will want as part of this pre-order?  I am trying to keep a running tally of the people and interest.  Thanks.

I'd be interested in only one.  That's all my budget and conscious and afford right now.

[citronick]

I have to say i am very disappointed with the final specs. Need more info before i decide to buy or not. Was looking at 2 or 3 but not sure now.

first news they accounced specs where much much better, better than knc titan. but 1000W per 260Mhs thats worse than KNC TITAN (how old knc titan is!!!). very disappoiting

Um...
Its better than Titan, but not by much.
Titan: 1500w @ 350mh - 4.3w/mh
A4: 1000w @ 260mh - 3.84w/mh

The Titan W are at the wall, who knows if the A4 quote is at the wall, if not then it could end up being worse than the Titan.

I got some feedback from Innosilicon that, the final product will be at 280MHs@1000w, a minor improvement hash/power ratio.

[Longsnowsm]

I have to say i am very disappointed with the final specs. Need more info before i decide to buy or not. Was looking at 2 or 3 but not sure now.

first news they accounced specs where much much better, better than knc titan. but 1000W per 260Mhs thats worse than KNC TITAN (how old knc titan is!!!). very disappoiting

Um...
Its better than Titan, but not by much.
Titan: 1500w @ 350mh - 4.3w/mh
A4: 1000w @ 260mh - 3.84w/mh

The Titan W are at the wall, who knows if the A4 quote is at the wall, if not then it could end up being worse than the Titan.

I got some feedback from Innosilicon that, the final product will be at 280MHs@1000w, a minor improvement hash/power ratio.

Thanks for the added info Citronick.  They just replied back to me also indicating they will be providing the details and specs on the A4 miner in the next 1 or 2 days.  And that they will be joining us here on this group buy thread shortly.  So that is good news. 

[CartmanSPC]

Do not forget about shipping costs. I don't remember how much it was but it was not cheap with my A2s. Also wire transfer fee's.

I personally think this first batch will be slower than later batches due to quality improvements in future chip dies. My hunch is that this first batch did not turn out as expected although I have nothing to base that on other than experience in chip production.