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April 10, 2020, 11:57:17 PM
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Hey guys, got more fodder for your slash fiction  Wink

https://twitter.com/notsofast/status/1246810619153723392



That's NotSoFast, well known crypto name who's been a lowkey Tao supporter for a while now.



Oh so you've grown the userbase by like 5-20 %? Good for you!

Edit: I thought it might be worth pointing out: The however many thousand "followers" that the likes of notsofast and bryce have is not actual, real, flesh-and-blood people who are actually listening to them. You know that, right? I mean, it's pretty damn obvious when you look at the ratios of likes/comments/RTs and compare to other people with similar follower counts.

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The ETA for TAO2 about two more weeks  Smiley



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To be clear, that's the same kind of timeline that was given two weeks ago, and two weeks before that?


OK, since you are so confused as to not understand what the "E" in ETA stands for, it's "estimated."

I also used the word "about," which means approximately. You keep trying, though.  Wink





Whoops, you forgot!

Trade volume is not a relevant metric to determine the legitimacy of a project.

Neither is price

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April 11, 2020, 05:27:25 AM
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Oh noes I copied another codebase and never tried to hide it.  

What do you mean? You completely tried to hide it. You deleted any reference to TomoChain and replaced it with "Tao," without properly crediting TomoChain for cloning their codebase.

Is there a particular reason why Bryce didn't do a proper github fork of the codebase (Tomochain), instead just grabbing it without any kind of attribution?

If you weren't trying to hide it, why did you go about cloning TomoChain in such a non-standard manner?

In addition, this is plagiarism by any definition:





This would not fly in any other industry, so why do you think it is OK for crypto?

This behavior demonstrates a few things about you:

- you have a complete disrespect for the work done by others
- you are without original ideas of your own and must borrow ideas from others
- you are too lazy to generate your own materials.

I've been busting scams here for a number of years and projects that engage in this type of behavior are ALWAYS scams. They put in the minimum amount of effort into their work because they know there is no chance of long-term success for their project, because they know it is a SCAM. You're just trying to perform yet another fleecing and using this forum to do so. It will backfire on you spectacularly.

Finally, if you don't give a shit about Bitcointalk, and its never hurt you or helped you ever, then what are you doing here? If this was actually the case, just fuck off then, dummy.





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April 11, 2020, 10:32:11 AM
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Tagged for being a scam and supported the flag.

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April 11, 2020, 12:33:24 PM
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the troll made a mistake and was busted
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April 11, 2020, 01:35:36 PM
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Oh noes I copied another codebase and never tried to hide it.  

What do you mean? You completely tried to hide it. You deleted any reference to TomoChain and replaced it with "Tao," without properly crediting TomoChain for cloning their codebase.

Is there a particular reason why Bryce didn't do a proper github fork of the codebase (Tomochain), instead just grabbing it without any kind of attribution?

If you weren't trying to hide it, why did you go about cloning TomoChain in such a non-standard manner?

In addition, this is plagiarism by any definition:

https://i.imgur.com/5LJwk3j.png

https://i.imgur.com/JX4iWCi.png

This would not fly in any other industry, so why do you think it is OK for crypto?

This behavior demonstrates a few things about you:

- you have a complete disrespect for the work done by others
- you are without original ideas of your own and must borrow ideas from others
- you are too lazy to generate your own materials.

I've been busting scams here for a number of years and projects that engage in this type of behavior are ALWAYS scams. They put in the minimum amount of effort into their work because they know there is no chance of long-term success for their project, because they know it is a SCAM. You're just trying to perform yet another fleecing and using this forum to do so. It will backfire on you spectacularly.

Finally, if you don't give a shit about Bitcointalk, and its never hurt you or helped you ever, then what are you doing here? If this was actually the case, just fuck off then, dummy.
If you were able to discern the source then I wasn't trying to hide anything, was I?

If you don't think that a six year career and Tao being four years old and still trading above ICO price is "no chance for long term success" I got nothing for you.

This site wants things done their way, but crypto can be implemented anyway anyone wants.  It's a big, big world out there.  I don't do things your way and I never have and I never will.  I'm not here to please a forum where less people read the content than my twitter feed. 

As I stated before the mod removed it, I'm posting here because the one member of our community that thinks BCT has value got so frustrated w/ the trolling I had to come and see it for myself.

BTW, nice moving goalposts.  Done here.  Enjoy your witchhunt.
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April 11, 2020, 01:50:20 PM
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Oh noes I copied another codebase and never tried to hide it.  

What do you mean? You completely tried to hide it. You deleted any reference to TomoChain and replaced it with "Tao," without properly crediting TomoChain for cloning their codebase.

Is there a particular reason why Bryce didn't do a proper github fork of the codebase (Tomochain), instead just grabbing it without any kind of attribution?

If you weren't trying to hide it, why did you go about cloning TomoChain in such a non-standard manner?

In addition, this is plagiarism by any definition:

https://i.imgur.com/5LJwk3j.png

https://i.imgur.com/JX4iWCi.png

This would not fly in any other industry, so why do you think it is OK for crypto?

This behavior demonstrates a few things about you:

- you have a complete disrespect for the work done by others
- you are without original ideas of your own and must borrow ideas from others
- you are too lazy to generate your own materials.

I've been busting scams here for a number of years and projects that engage in this type of behavior are ALWAYS scams. They put in the minimum amount of effort into their work because they know there is no chance of long-term success for their project, because they know it is a SCAM. You're just trying to perform yet another fleecing and using this forum to do so. It will backfire on you spectacularly.

Finally, if you don't give a shit about Bitcointalk, and its never hurt you or helped you ever, then what are you doing here? If this was actually the case, just fuck off then, dummy.
If you were able to discern the source then I wasn't trying to hide anything, was I?
As you well know, having done so on other occasions, you can do a "fork" on Github, which links it back to the repo you've forked from.

You didn't do that. I'll leave it to others to determine if you've been straight with them in other forums about Tao2 being a fork of Tomochain.
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If you don't think that a six year career and Tao being four years old and still trading above ICO price is "no chance for long term success" I got nothing for you.
Tao was at an all-time low price the other day (75 sats).

Any advantage it has over ICO prices is not due to to the TAO/BTC price, but BTC/USD, which, sure, is higher than in 2016.
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This site wants things done their way, but crypto can be implemented anyway anyone wants.  It's a big, big world out there.  I don't do things your way and I never have and I never will.  I'm not here to please a forum where less people read the content than my twitter feed. 

As I stated before the mod removed it, I'm posting here because the one member of our community that thinks BCT has value got so frustrated w/ the trolling I had to come and see it for myself.

BTW, nice moving goalposts.  Done here.  Enjoy your witchhunt.
You know, I don't think you'd have nearly as many problems if you even once could admit responsibility for literally anything that went wrong. It's OK to fail sometimes, as long as you take steps to improve.
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April 11, 2020, 02:04:09 PM
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Warning to all readers. This project is a known scam. Read more: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5239328.0


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April 11, 2020, 02:40:36 PM
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Done here.

Yes, you are. That's one thing we can both agree on. You got caught plagiarizing a project and trying to pass it off as your own work.



You are done here.





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April 11, 2020, 04:40:59 PM
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If I thought my reputation was under threat I would step into this thread to defend myself but the detractors are clearly bored on covid19 lockdown so I'll just go back to doing fun stuff

twitter.com/notsofast
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April 11, 2020, 06:50:46 PM
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If I thought my reputation was under threat I would step into this thread to defend myself but the detractors are clearly bored on covid19 lockdown so I'll just go back to doing fun stuff

he deleted his facebook, but the screens are on the discord chat

Huh. I didn't honestly think you'd go into doxxing and threatening people as a first step. Silly me, I guess.
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Yikes, someone is extremely busy creating alts.

And it ain't nutildah.
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hi how can i get access to the secret discord, i want to see the rest of the pictures
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April 14, 2020, 02:34:04 PM
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These posts explain why Bryce did what he did, as described by previous developers that have worked with him in the past. Basically, he can't write code of his own and has a long-standing history of stealing the work of others and passing it off as his own. He also has no shame when it comes to manipulating social media to exact vengeance on those who have crossed him. I'm sure he has an excuse as to why all of his critics are wrong and he is a saint.

He only broke code Bryce did not make any coins imho especially a Blake based coin he does not even seem to be able to compile coin wallets atm Shocked

most if not all the working code and compiled wallets for his coins seem to be done by other devs wonder why  Roll Eyes

you can see from the github commits I was the fool who fixed and got Dirac working and also ran all the nodes and merged mined it on my pools but I am working on other projects namely the mmo games and Bryce did not like that as I would not do anymore work on coins and would not setup a merged pool on demand which resulted in him getting very abusive to me via DM and email which you can see some of that here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=616288.msg9527356#msg9527356

I never asked for any type of payment for any thing I have done with Blake based coin projects and I also really dislike the premine and ipo/ico crap that is also far too common if anyone wants to send coins to a dev because they have actually done some work great but these other schemes should be avoided as there is not any proof a dev will produce results after they have x% of a coin they claim to be the dev of or a big bag of BTC Roll Eyes
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Note: Market price does not equal results or development as they are far to easy to manipulate and is often the way these scam coins are hyped
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_fool_theory

Edit:
Another thing I know for sure is that Bryce uses multiple accounts both here and on twitter (both haters and lovers which is kind of weird)

it would not surprise me if he setup an account just so he could say it was not him after paying someone to make the coin for him
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I'll go and do it myself.  If I can't do it I'll pay someone to do it.

I am still not happy with the xdq code its got bugs and issues and Bryce cant be bothered to updated the code with even the simplest update *checkpoints

I will never work with Bryce again after the way he treated me he can apologize all he likes it does not change that he is a bully to work with and for an open source project there is nothing that will entice me to work with people like that including fake apologies, BTC or Fiat currency its not going to happen ever he burned his bridges with me and the other blake eco devs!

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You're creating a de facto closed source ecosystem.

Nice job.  You're everything crypto was created to fight against.

Bryce Weiner
26 May

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I'll go and do it myself.  If I can't do it I'll pay someone to do it.

If I sound disappointed it is because I am.


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I am not doing it for you


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26 May

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You're not doing it for anyone but yourself.

I'll take all the attention away from your ecosystem.  

It's that simple.


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you are welcome to do as you wish


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26 May

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As are we all.

Good luck.


Bryce Weiner
26 May

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I've never allowed anyone to hold my coins hostage.

I'll be hard forking off of BLC as soon as possible.

You can remove Dirac if you wish, but then I'll tell the world it's because you want total control over a closed source system and refuse to allow coin devs to setup their own pools.

I wanted you to know what's coming because I felt I owed you at least that much.

I am sorry we could not work together, but I will not work with wannabe tyrants.

Sincerely,


all my code is on Github as it always was and others have setup pools both public and private and I have helped them but thats not same as doing it for them  Roll Eyes


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Sorry if I made a mistake about the code not being open source.

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I'm trying to make money so we can all profit

I am simply disappointed and quite frankly if you don't wish to work with us anymore that's just fine.

I have a reputation to uphold for ethical behavior.

"us" is that meaning Blocktech because this at the time was from his Blocktech email Oops guess there is no "us" now  Tongue


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Hahahaha... Get the fuck over yourself.  

I did you a courtesy.  If you want me to just say your networks are fucked up on Twitter I can do that.

THEN I'll setup my pools.  Tee hee hee.

I don't need to spend money wasting resources when I can waste yours... that is... until your network fucks up like it has.


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to me
See how that works?

getting me to do all the work on xdq and trying to force me to setup a merge pool for Bryce because he can't and won't do it himself is certainly not a courtesy imho

Bryce has a screwed up way of thinking about ethics go work with him yourself and dont take my word on it!

atm I am stuck with running the nodes for xdq and maintaining it on the merged pools and it sucks  Cry

Exactly , we will never work with Bryce again, not for all the tea in china or all the btc in satoshi's hoarde.

ive seen those e mails with full headers and more detail.

i don't care how many fake forum accounts or fake twitter accounts come out to be his friend or pretend to be his enemy, Bryce is a waste of time , I will never ever acknowledge him or anything he is involved with again.

And no matter how many of you people running multiple accounts come out of the woodwork is no difference to me (or to Bluedragon obviously)

From what I've seen Bryce the Weiner is involved in scam after scam.

But here's the thing which people don't get.  The guy is totally incompetent as a coder. Last year he was asking around for advice how to compile a wallet in windows.  The guy is an idiot at programming and he's a bigger idiot at things like economics.  I have corrected him so many times regarding elementary issues, on twitter and he just deletes his tweets and lies about everything.

So I have to wonder how such an incompetent idiot is everywhere and gets so much credit when he knows nothing?

More to follow.





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April 14, 2020, 03:29:13 PM
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Nutildah you are a sad little man. Six damn years. Get a life and go away. All of your various alts.

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April 16, 2020, 08:10:00 PM
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Done here.

Yes, you are. That's one thing we can both agree on. You got caught plagiarizing a project and trying to pass it off as your own work.



You are done here.

Like you have any ability to say who is "done" anywhere, dummy. You're just a particularly inept little bully with a well justified inferiority complex.

I love how much fail you are full of. Well, that and the other thing you're full of.

You open a fraudulent scam accusation thread and self own so badly that you had to lock the thread to stop faceplanting.  Cheesy

You try to claim scam, whatever the hell it is that you think that means, on the basis of "plAgIaRisM"

But by doing this you demonstrate

A) you don't understand how open source software works, so you don't understand that it's legal and ethical to duplicate the software exactly before making changes

B) you don't understand how GitHub works, so you fail to notice over 11,000+ commits with citations giving credit to the Tomochain project and the Ethereum project it is forked from, proving your claim that there is no citation to be extremely false.

And your clueless lackey/sockpuppet "Lauda" then moves the goalposts in a similarly inept or dishonest fashion and not only acts as if I had claimed those 11,000+ commits were Bryce's, but decides that the recent ones aren't good enough to count or some nonsense.

So dumb.

C) you don't understand anything about the process for cloning an existing crypo, which as I had to explain to you begins with duplicating the codebase and making alterations starting with the coin name and symbol. 

This naturally would result in things like the description being temporarily identical to the description of the codebase it's derived from, other than the aforementioned currency name and symbol. This, again, invalidates your claim.

The screencap you chose to quote above as if it demonstrated wrongdoing literally says Bryce was only about 30% done with the process, so the fact that trivial details like the description in the readme file being unchanged other than the name and symbol is exactly what a knowledgeable person would expect to be the case.

Yet you're so clueless--or dishonest--that you chose to misrepresent that as "plagiarism"  Roll Eyes

D) Your second persona, "Coinclarity" is a fraud since, as has been demonstrated, you don't know a damn thing about how crypto works so you're clearly unqualified to be writing on the topic

E) You have so little basis for your "scam" claim that now you're pathetically dredging up people's opinions of Bryce up from six damn years ago like it says proves anything about the legitimacy of Tao, and now you're pathetically looking at old threads like OSC, desperate to find something, anything to prove yourself right.

F) You lack any integrity since you refuse to admit your plagiarism claim is entirely false and refuse to remove the libelous flags on my account and Bryce's

G) Tao, a cryptocurrency which has been in operation since 2016 and has worked with the law and not against it, is so legit you can't do anything but lie to attempt to discredit it

Thank you for the entertainment. I've had a lot of fun the last few days.  Smiley

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April 17, 2020, 07:12:57 AM
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I'd like to get an outsiders opinion on this (anybody except for shills and sockpuppets):







Does this sound like the type of project you would seriously consider investing in?





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April 18, 2020, 12:46:41 AM
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Does this sound like the type of project you would seriously consider investing in?

Can't help but notice that you, as usual, did not reply to my last post above where I once again explain to you how cloning a cryptocurrency works as I have been forced repeatedly to do to you in this thread and in your false accusation thread which I'm no longer able to reply to to defend myself against your lies and half truths.

This is deflection on your part, which you keep accusing me of for some damn reason, despite pages and pages of evidence to the contrary.  Roll Eyes  I actually directly respond to your nonsense over and over to the point where people ask me why I keep bothering since you are so obviously such a bad actor.

Anyway, I then point out that in the very screencap you posted, it shows that Bryce is only a little ways through the cloning process and that it is perfectly normal at an early stage of the cloning process for much of the text to simply have the coin name and symbol replaced before making further changes.

I've explained this to you repeatedly, but you ignore it because you know it proves you wrong.  

Now on to your latest post. I've removed the tweets you screencapped from this reply to save space since they are easily viewed immediately upthread.

If you were an honest person with integrity, you might have posted some caps of the other replies to that account's tweets so more than one perspective can be seen.

I'll do it for you.

First tweet below, you can see I offer to help Vxtron and make sure he knows that if he choses to participate in the upcoming coin swap to the new EVM-based network, that he will get a 10-15% bonus on however many Tao he holds at the time of the swap.

I also tell him we will not attack him the way you attack people.



and then when one of our community members says something uncharitable to Vxtron, I immediately step in and defuse the situation and ask him to treat V with fairness and take the high road



I ask the people reading this, does Nutildah seem like someone you can trust when he attacks and attempts to harm coin networks and people he dislikes?

Given how demonstrably dishonest he is with selective editing and constant misrepresentation of facts?




OK, below this line I will respond to Nutildah's most recent post in the false accusation thread which he has locked preventing me from being able to respond there. I will manually quote to respond as best I can the points I'm able to address.



Quote from: nutildah link=topic=5239328.msg54238670#msg54238670

There's tons of evidence. It's been presented in various forms for over 5 years now.

There is a fair amount of hearsay and your own claims and attacks which you have made for years and years against Bryce in your weird obsessive vendetta. Few, if any, amounting to more than at best circumstantial evidence, none of which I can really respond much to, but I'll say what I can without having any direct knowledge of any of the claims.

Quote from: nutildah link=topic=5239328.msg54238670#msg54238670
Let's start with this as it is directly related to Tao:

Quote from: Krypto Superdog
Why did Hakim Draper drop out of the project?  was he the connection to the ODB estate?  
Whats the reason for the pivot away from celebrity endorsed tokens?  it seems like the mission of fanmix is to onboard indie artists, right?

Here we have Hakim Draper, who despite leaving the project over a year and a half ago is still referenced on the Tao website as a "project founder," directly acknowledging having been ripped off by Bryce Weiner. Seems like Bryce could have edited his documents to reflect Draper's departure at some point since September 2019, that is, if he wasn't still using his name and connections to shill Tao.

OK, apparently I guess there's a pdf file still on the site I wasn't aware of which mentions him as a founder, which he was.

I really can't comment on this old situation because I don't know anything about it other than Draper tweeted a comment which he deleted a short time after. Draper I will note still does follow the official Tao twitter account, which may be deliberate or it may be unintentional, I have no idea and I can't really comment on this.

But I thought I'd at least try to respond to be fair.

This is what Kris, who is more familiar with the situation had to say on Twitter:



As for what Krypto said above, there is no pivot that he's claiming with FanMix that I can see. It was never about celebrity endorsed tokens, it has always been about official branded cryptocurrency/digital merchandise which is a different thing from a regulatory standpoint and one of the reasons the regulators have a positive view of what Bryce has been doing.

Anyway, the way Fanmix works is when an artist, whether indie or otherwise, uses the Fanmix platform to crowdfund an album the way that SMANTX did successfully last year.

They are issued a branded cryptocurrency if they raise at least $10,000, which SMANTX unfortunately did not as the first test case for the platform.  Anyone who helps fund a band's crowdfund gets a proportional share of the coins with one coin generated per dollar spent if the threshold is met.

So that doesn't seem much like a pivot to me so much as a minor tweak to the process, but that's just how I see it.

Large name artists are generally more encumbered by their contracts and may not be given permission to use the FanMix platform prior to a track record of fundraising success. So it seems a bit weird to me to find something sinister in the way this is being done step by step and gradually like a real business instead of rapidly like a typical crypto PND.

Quote from: nutildah
Not to mention the various problems people have been having with Bryce's alt.market exchange:

Here Nutildah posts two anecdotes which you're free to read if you check out the thread with the quote link near the top of this post.  

Since I try to honestly respond to everything I am able to, I tend to be long winded and I'll save some space by not reposting them and because Nutildah has locked the thread and I can't use the quote button anyway.  Not to mention these things have been brought up previously in this thread so we're really just rehashing old stuff as usual.

Anyway, I don't know anything about it any of the claims and so can't comment. I can say that I have traded on AltMarket for whatever it's been a year or two now that it's been running in limited form while other pieces are being built.

I personally have had a couple of minor issues with delivery of email 2fa codes which were resolved when I or someone else who had an issue mentioned it, and I have traded successfully a fair amount.

I also sold a small number of Tao back in I think it was last year for USD and since my bank is a very small locally owned outfit, it's not supported by Plaid which AM uses and I had no way to withdraw to my bank. So I asked Bryce if he could help and he wired the money to me at his personal expense. Which was nice of him and he could easily have charged me but didn't.

So I have no complaints about my own experiences and simply cannot comment about anyone else's. I do think that if there had been many issues I would have probably heard about them in the slack but I can't recall any cases.

Best answer I can give you. But you can't honestly claim I didn't try.

One thing I will mention is that AltMarket has effectively been in beta all this time and it looks like we are about to get the first non-beta version in the near future:



I sincerely hope if anyone has had issues during the extended beta that they are able to have them resolved.


Then, in response to me saying that the still in the early phases of development Tao2 repository maintains all 11,000+ commits going all of the way back through Tomo and back to Ethereum which it was forked from, giving credit to every person who contributed is crediting the source, Nutildah replies

Quote from: nutildah
No, its not. Crediting the source would have been mentioning TomoChain anywhere in the documentation. He purposely removed all references to "TomoChain" and replaced them with "Tao." If he wanted to be honest from the get-go he would have just done a proper fork of TomoChain instead of just copy/pasting it into his own repository. Only after he got caught did he make a few changes.

1. Again, he simply replaced the word "TomoChain" with "Tao", and changed a few others words. He obviously is trying to pass it off as his own work. If he wasn't, he would have come up with his own project description for his own project.

2. It is NOT "entirely unique." It is 90% plagiarized! Take a closer look:


Nutildah then goes on to post a screenshot of an old version of the readme file acting like Bryce having completed the very first steps of the standard, legal, and ethical way one ALWAYS clones a cryptocurrency--something I have gone over in detail in this thread and the false accusation thread and will not waste my time reiterating further-- completely ignoring the fact that Bryce has not finished the process so it is not evidence of wrongdoing and Nutildah's argument is demonstrably stupid and nonsensical.

I mean, this is literally the core of his argument and he cannot possibly be this obtuse.

IT IS HOW YOU CLONE A COIN AND THE PROCESS IS NOT FINISHED YET.  AS IS DOCUMENTED BY THE SCREENCAP ABOVE AND COMMON SENSE.


1) You always start with these exact changes
2) the process is incomplete as evidenced by the screencap you yourself quoted
3) the readme has already been updated with new text and an explicit citation and even praise
4) the there are literally 11,000 citations of every person who worked on it before Bryce since Bryce deliberate preserved each and every commit


I will not go over this again.

This is obviously not evidence of wrongdoing.

Your accusation is demonstrably based on a falsehood.

Period.

End of story.

Quote from: nutildah
This (along with copy/pasting a project's source code) represents the most severe form of laziness that a crypto "dev" could possibly possess! Take a look around at the other projects being labeled as scams in this section of the forum. This type of plagiarism is grounds for a negative trust and scam accusation 90%+ of the time!

Yes, I agree. Take a look around at the other projects being labeled as scams in the scam accusations forum.

When this absolute fucking nonsense is the main basis for attacks on projects, how many others have you falsely accused?

How much damage have you caused to this project and others like it with your insane obsessive attempt to frame everything that doesn't make you money as a scam?

Stop wasting everyone's time and stop attacking the project over nonsense like this.

YOU ARE ABUSING A POSITION OF POWER TO HARM LEGITIMATE PROJECTS even if you may also be accusing actual scams!


YOU ARE IN THE WRONG.


Quote from: nutildah
If you look at ACGCrypto's post history, pretty much the only thing he's ever done on the forum is promote Tao, which has done nothing but fall in value over the course of the last 2-3 years. At least 90% of the updates he posted about Bryce's promises have never materialized. That's what Bryce Weiner does: over-promises and under-delivers.

Yes, I wonder why a small cryptocurrency project which you and your cohorts/alts have relentlessly attacked and attempted to destroy might fall in price when Bitcointalk is one of the main public sources of information on the project? 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

When nearly every time I post an update the post is buried in absolute garbage attacks repeating the same few scraps, insults and attacks so nobody can see anything but lies, distortions, anecdotes, and half truths.

What a fucking mystery!

And MAYBE, just MAYBE, the plans for the project might have been able to advance further and faster if the financial legs weren't cut out from under it by baseless attacks like yours!

AND just because something hasn't happened on your schedule doesn't mean it won't.  

AND more has been done with this project than you are willing to admit to because you are fundamentally dishonest and a bad actor.



Quote from: nutildah
If you look at ACGCrypto's post history, pretty much the only thing he's ever done on the forum is promote Tao, which has done nothing but fall in value over the course of the last 2-3 years. At least 90% of the updates he posted about Bryce's promises have never materialized. That's what Bryce Weiner does: over-promises and under-delivers.

It is apparent that Bryce (and Tao bagholders) are gearing up for one final pump before abandoning this project completely. In addition to all the evidence presented earlier in this thread about the massive dishonesty taking place in the Tao team (as is usual for a Bryce Weiner project), these tweets basically sum up the situation as to why neither Bryce nor ACGCrypto is to be trusted
<Vxtron tweets from his last post in this thread which he also posted in the other thread removed for space>


Literally all I have ever done here is pass information on and try to be helpful. That's it.

That, and deal with unjustified attacks from you hiding behind at least two known aliases as well as either additional sockpuppet accounts or people you are clearly coordinating with, plus a couple of people like Vxtron who in all likelyhood is a victim of your sleazy tactics.

Just because a coin is down from where someone bought at an ATH does not make it a scam any more than if someone bought BTC in December 2017 and now is way down on their money makes BTC a scam. Especially if part of the reason for the price decline is YOUR OWN ACTIONS

Quote from: nutildah
This is why I am putting a warning flag on ACGCrypto for the same reason as there are flags on taoron and bryceweiner.

So there is no valid basis to your false flagging of our accounts.

The entire basis for your argument is absolute fucking nonsense and if you don't know it you are wildly, incredibly incompetent and have no fucking place to be judging projects because you clearly don't understand them.  

But my bet is you do know what you are saying is bullshit and you just don't care.

Quote from: nutildah
He's been shamelessly encouraging people to buy what is essentially a long-time scammer's garbage, and people need to be aware of his duplicity.

"long-time scammer's garbage" nonsense aside, can you give me an example of where I've been "shamelessly encouraging people to buy?" I do not recall doing this and I searched the thread for the word "buy" and the word "invest" and can't find a single time I said either of those words or anything similar.

I don't give investment advice and never have to the best of my knowledge.

I have been posting updates which you have drowned in a torrent of bullshit in a clear attack on Tao and Bryce and myself based almost exclusively on specious arguments, innuendo and half truths, and outright lies.

Now you have, on the basis of nothing put a dishonest warning banner at the top of every page of the thread and a libelous flag on my account, Bryce's, and the Taoron OP account.

Last quote from the false accusation thread:
Quote from: nutildah
I would be happy to leave this thread open, but the fact is I have been receiving death threats from people attempting to act on information being posted by sockpuppets in this thread. Their posts are always deleted by a moderator, but I can't leave the thread open because of this evil coward. It is truly a new low for Bryce (which is hard to achieve) and after these actions I don't understand why anybody would consider investing in Tao for one second.

I have no idea if anyone actually has posted death threats in that thread, but if anyone did or is thinking about doing so STOP IT. NOT FUCKING COOL. Not even Nutildah deserves that and it's fucking asinine.

The only posts I saw in the thread which got deleted by the moderator--and I was checking regularly--are archived on archive.is and none of them were threats.  

After all of the well documented wrongdoing on your part, I don't know why anyone would trust you.

I've never done a single thing wrong or unethical at any point.

Yes, I have been insulting af towards you and some of the "other" people attacking me in this thread, which is extraordinarily out of character for me, but I am fucking tired of your relentless bullying dishonesty, and abuse of your position on this site so just fucking deal.

Any person who comes to me here or on twitter or in slack and has genuine questions or needs help only has to ask. You'll get a polite, sincere, and helpful response to the best of my ability every time.  

My rudeness and insults are exclusively reserved for the trolls who have endlessly attacked this thread and this project and others for years.

If this somehow turns out to be a scam, the worst you can say about me is that I was duped.

But if I was duped I was in good company including significant Hollywood/music industry players like business partner Peter Rafelson, and people very high up in the government.

I mean, this would be some historical level of scam that will be talked about for decades and you'll be hailed as the asshole genius.  Roll Eyes

And if it turns out to be the case, which I really doubt given all the evidence for and against that argument, especially after going on 4 years of operation, then I will publicly admit it here without hesitation.

Because I have the integrity to own up to mistakes and misjudgments. A trait you do not seem to share.



I will ask again for the record, how much damage have you done to the price of this coin and the ability to progress at a decent pace?

How many other cryptocurrencies and communities have you demeaned and destroyed with your attacks based on such inconsistent, thin and baseless claims while abusing your power and position here?


How many people have been screwed over by you?

How many millions of dollars of damages have you done to all of the investors in all of those projects?


I believe time will prove you to be in the wrong.

Certainly anyone reading my responses to your claims and comparing the two will see you're not much of anything but a little bully with no integrity or honesty in your actions.

And you will not stop Tao and the related businesses like AltMarket, Fanmix, and Digiramp from succeeding despite your best efforts to destroy them.

We have the approval of the law and are on the right path.  

You are not.

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Wow, uh....

I'm not sure that you claiming to have been foiled by a single guy (or a small group or w/e) from untold riches (who, apparently, somehow has made all your mistakes for you) gives quite the impression you want to give.

Perhaps if there was some actual merit to the project rather than it being a lot of hot air, minimal fronts and PoCs (mostly bought or "borrowed" open source projects and stock images), and if it had been headed up by someone with actual experience, knowhow, trustworthiness, and skill (rather than Bryce)...

Perhaps.

Oh well.
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Wow, uh....

I'm not sure that you claiming to have been foiled by a single guy (or a small group or w/e) from untold riches (who, apparently, somehow has made all your mistakes for you) gives quite the impression you want to give.

Perhaps if there was some actual merit to the project rather than it being a lot of hot air, minimal fronts and PoCs (mostly bought or "borrowed" open source projects and stock images), and if it had been headed up by someone with actual experience, knowhow, trustworthiness, and skill (rather than Bryce)...

Perhaps.

Oh well.

 Roll Eyes

I don't care what impression it gives you. You came into this with your set false impression and I'm not going to waste my time trying to change it.

My point being that Bitcointalk is still one of the main sources of public information for cryptocurrencies. And for Tao it is just about the only public source of information for anyone unfamiliar with it who might want to learn. As such, BCT has an undue influence on the public perception of cryptos and specifically Tao. And high-ranking members of the site have an undue influence on how projects can be discovered and viewed when discovered by visitors.

Every time I've published any updates, you and various other accounts, at least two run deceptively by a single person who appears to coordinate with others, have acted to bury my posts in tediously repetitive attacks that have no real bearing on the updates I'm trying to share.

And now, this has been escalated with a completely unjustified flag on my account and the posting account, leading anyone unfamiliar with the project to see a false warning which of course would immediately give a negative perception and cause 90+ percent of new people to bail without learning any actual facts.

The project has more merit than most in crypto, something I've articulated and demonstrated for some time, but there's little way for someone trying to look into it to actually be able to evaluate it on it's genuine merits. 

So yes, it is reasonable to suppose that the price has been suppressed as a result so part of what I was establishing was that it's disingenuous at best to use the price as a strike against it.

But nothing being done by all of you accounts, however many people are actually behind them, will ultimately matter. Have a nice day.

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I'll just note that once again, as is tradition, nothing is your fault.

Not indefinite delays, not lack of PR, not lack of results, not failed deployments, not lack of documentation, not lack of attribution to previous work.

Nothing.

It's all a big conspiracy against y'all, right? Or things being "unexpectedly" difficult. Or "temperamental artists", or "shitty family", or "some guy" posting on fucking Bitcointalk.

I mean, I get that that's a much better feeling, but it won't get you much of anywhere, I'm afraid.

Also, your insults notwithstanding, it seems to me you're actually the only guy in the whole Tao "community" that's actually doing any sort of real work. You might want to use that energy and drive for something or some group that'll actually appreciate that.
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