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August 08, 2016, 01:17:37 AM
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Oof, another Weinercoin... Will be tough to invest given past track record of abandoning projects when setbacks were encountered.

Thanks for bringing this up!

I've been involved in this industry for a few years now and my work as perceived on these forums rarely matches reality.

What I can say beyond a doubt that every single project I have ever engaged in has been a free, open launch.  Further, those efforts were engaged either as a paid contract, a startup, or implementing another's vision.

This is the first project that is truly my own and I appreciate the opportunity to clear that up on these forums as I've mentioned it repeatedly in interviews and appearances.

Exactly that will be interesting to watch. Everybody who is in Crypto since some time knows that it always was part of the game that you never really was responsible - and the list is long, right?

And now you're already moving and spending funds before the ICO even has ended. That's ridiculous. But bashing Factom while they are an example for being correct with ICO-money. Until now they've not touched more than 1/3 of their ICO-money while working hard to meet their three Milestones (Because you are questioning that they've produced something: https://github.com/FactomProject/ or https://www.factom.com/blog/ ), but you're right: They don't work with the Nigerian government, at least not that I know of, but in Honduras - while you are also involved in Bitland.



What did you say once?

Nov 04 15:12:12 <%Cogburn>      I make money from thin air. I don't need all that shit.
Nov 04 15:12:21 <%Cogburn>      I can just do it myself.

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Nov 04 15:39:21 <%Cogburn>      Still the cleanest, most ethical guy in crypto.
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August 08, 2016, 01:40:04 AM
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ICO again?
Any developer can really milk a lot of USD by just launching an ICO every month. Run away after taking the money. Hire someone to develop the coin for them and that's it. Good luck.
I can't agree more.
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August 08, 2016, 02:21:54 AM
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here is TAO inside in Chinese blog.

http://btc12.com/2016/08/08/taoscam/
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i see in your wp, TAO refers "道" in Chinese, but actually it pronounces as "dao"
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August 08, 2016, 02:27:16 AM
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here is TAO inside in Chinese blog.

http://btc12.com/2016/08/08/taoscam/
nicely made mate, if this coin is recognized by the Chinese might have good potential let me
review more and try to buy some. good luck dev.

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August 08, 2016, 02:32:08 AM
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i see in your wp, TAO refers "道" in Chinese, but actually it pronounces as "dao"

now i refers "套“ which means bag. lol
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August 08, 2016, 02:32:30 AM
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here is TAO inside in Chinese blog.

http://btc12.com/2016/08/08/taoscam/

 nice find, actually I see this project doesn't use the correct pinyin, which is "dao", not "tao"   They are bad Chinese learners.  Cheesy
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August 08, 2016, 03:35:30 AM
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This is also interesting:

https://youtu.be/0dX18EZKiyk?t=1h9m40s

Bryce says, that TAO is basically PoS with a very tiny PoW. They talk about the security and immutability of the network and about the possibility that somebody could buy  > 50% of TAO. And B.W. claims, that it's impossible to buy 51% of the network, no matter how much money - but that it would be "improper" to point that out.

And, of course, usually it's impossible if a team, maybe plus friends, already own at least 51% of the total supply. And his interviewer asks him directly if he is speaking about self-buying - and Bryce doesn't answer, just smiles.  

Besides the fact that there is no escrow for this ICO and they already spend ICO-money, it's also not necessary to explain further what he is implying there.

And it's even more interesting in the context of what he said before:

"Selfbuying-shit-coin-pump-and-dump? The answer is no!"

https://youtu.be/0dX18EZKiyk?t=38m45s


But the answer seems to be "yes" if it's impossible to buy > 50% no matter of how much money. If this will already start as a centralized system it doesn't make any sense. It would be a total contradiction of it's purpose and what they claim what it's about and meant for.


If somebody thinks about investing in this, he/she should think about all that before and maybe asks some questions.

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August 08, 2016, 04:34:39 AM
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Hey guys,

Bought a small amount, it shows up on the ledger but not when i log in into the web wallet, is that normal?

Yes, lol. the amount we get is based on the total amount raise. so 30M/Amount raised. We will receive are coins once the crowd sale is over. Just write or print you private keys down for safety and hold on tight. Wink

Cool thanks, was just used to some ico's showing a fluctuating value until the close of the ICO and the 0 tao made me wonder if something was wrong.
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This is also interesting:

https://youtu.be/0dX18EZKiyk?t=1h9m40s

Bryce says, that TAO is basically PoS with a very tiny PoW. They talk about the security and immutability of the network and about the possibility that somebody could buy  > 50% of TAO. And B.W. claims, that it's impossible to buy 51% of the network, no matter how much money - but that it would be "improper" to point that out.

And, of course, usually it's impossible if a team, maybe plus friends, already own at least 51% of the total supply. And his interviewer asks him directly if he is speaking about self-buying - and Bryce doesn't answer, just smiles.  

Besides the fact that there is no escrow for this ICO and they already spend ICO-money, it's also not necessary to explain further what he is implying there.

And it's even more interesting in the context of what he said before:

"Selfbuying-shit-coin-pump-and-dump? The answer is no!"

https://youtu.be/0dX18EZKiyk?t=38m45s


But the answer seems to be "yes" if it's impossible to buy > 50% no matter of how much money. If this will already start as a centralized system it doesn't make any sense. It would be a total contradiction of it's purpose and what they claim what it's about and meant for.


If somebody thinks about investing in this, he/she should think about all that before and maybe asks some questions.



When I first saw this project I did some research on it but not fully convince they really know what they want to do. I still believe they have more questions begging for answers  with the history of abandoning project which I can't really blame them for since we all know to hire a good developer doesn't come cheap and this boils down to capital if they don't have good investment to back them it will surely be difficult to finance. I was told even Ethereum that is one of the most successful ico's of recent was about to fail because of crash in the BTC value which was no anticipated for, but to have more than one abandoned project gives me a concern. I'm still sitting on the fence.

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August 08, 2016, 06:21:33 AM
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here is TAO inside in Chinese blog.

http://btc12.com/2016/08/08/taoscam/
nicely made mate, if this coin is recognized by the Chinese might have good potential let me
review more and try to buy some. good luck dev.

HAHAHA

look at the URL. this blog is warning people that TAO is a scam.

http://btc12.com/2016/08/08/taoscam/



Google translate: https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=zh-CN&u=http://btc12.com/2016/08/08/taoscam/

"The team has had a famous scammer Bryce Weiner"
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August 08, 2016, 12:05:48 PM
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"Famous scammers" go to jail in the United States.

Stop being ridiculous with this nonsense.


If you have never accomplished, built, or done anything in your life, and you call Bryce a scammer, you're the worst kind of parasite. 

The people that hide behind anonymity and slander people's names with the shout of "scammer", YOU are the ones preventing cryptocurrency from going mainstream.

YOU are the reason "real people" want nothing to do with crypto.

Stop "warning people" with all your bullshit, because at the end of the day you're nothing but shitty character assassins.  If you lost money from DAO or Ethereum because you didn't do your due diligence and threw your money at a 19 year old coder, that is your fault for being stupid.  If you have no ability to tell what is a "good project", and just judge based on the crowd, stop calling yourself an "investor", because you're nothing but a "gambler".

I get so sick of seeing this slanderous bullshit.


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Alex from ICO countdown is a KNOWN extortionist:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1480636.0



Interesting how a KNOWN extortionist is seemingly extorting Bryce...crazy how that works...

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"Famous scammers" go to jail in the United States.

Stop being ridiculous with this nonsense.


If you have never accomplished, built, or done anything in your life, and you call Bryce a scammer, you're the worst kind of parasite. 

The people that hide behind anonymity and slander people's names with the shout of "scammer", YOU are the ones preventing cryptocurrency from going mainstream.

YOU are the reason "real people" want nothing to do with crypto.

Stop "warning people" with all your bullshit, because at the end of the day you're nothing but shitty character assassins.  If you lost money from DAO or Ethereum because you didn't do your due diligence and threw your money at a 19 year old coder, that is your fault for being stupid.  If you have no ability to tell what is a "good project", and just judge based on the crowd, stop calling yourself an "investor", because you're nothing but a "gambler".

I get so sick of seeing this slanderous bullshit.


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See, I personally am very carefully with the word scammer. And there is no reason to take this personal but if the guys behind this want to do an ICO they also should be able to explain some things.


And please ask yourself how this looks and please forget for some minutes that you are a friend/partner of B.W.:



1. ICO without escrow 

2. ICO not even ended yet, but already spending money 

3. The claim that it's "impossible" to buy > 50% of the supply, no matter how much money --> usually the case if the team (most likely including some backers) owns > 50% 

4. It seems as if the initial plan was to do this anon:

"During the boot- strapping phase these individ- uals wish to remain anonymous as to encourage community in- volvement in the development of the protocol as opposed
to establishing governance around personalities, as this has led to crisis in both Bitcoin and Ethereum."

http://tao.network/InvestorsHandbook.pdf

Until post 8 in this thread with the question who is behind this there were just rumors.
 


5. Bryce Weiner says in this thread that this is his first own project, while the official account said this in the other thread after rumors about Weiner popped up:

"Bryce helped us in developing the project to fruition and we appreciate his efforts and enthusiasm in bringing this project to the attention of his friends in the community."
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1543866.msg15550724#msg15550724


6. The whole design doesn't seem to fit to the high promises -- it's PoS plus x11 - and most likely a centralized chain (if they own >50%)

7. Nothing in the github: https://github.com/taoblockchain
 


That is what somebody sees right now even if the name Bryce Weiner is new to him and without any prejudices.


Or, let's say it this way: If you wouldn't be a friend/partner of him because of Bitland, but just a normal Investor. Why would you say this is a buy? You wouldn't be concerned about those points?
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@tabali tigi: I've taken a quick look into the Bitland-threads. The question is also: If everything is fine, why hiding who is the developer of Bitland?




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The Team

The common theme is that the leading factor inhibiting long term and sustainable growth across multiple sectors in emerging countries is insecure land tenure. Ghana will have the first iteration of our operation, platform, and system. BitLand has a chance to change the game not just only Ghana, or Africa, but the world.

Founder - Narigamba Mwinsuubo  


CSO - L. Christopher Bates


COO - Elliot Hedman


Financial Advisor - Ryan Berry


Web Admin - Brock Hager


Advisor - Ronny Boesing


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The common theme is that the leading factor inhibiting long term and sustainable growth across multiple sectors in emerging countries is insecure land tenure. Ghana will have the first iteration of our operation, platform, and system. BitLand has a chance to change the game not just only Ghana, or Africa, but the world.

Narigamba Mwinsuubo, Founder/CEO BitLand
L. Christopher Bates, CTO BitLand
Elliot Hedman, COO BitLand
Brock Hager, Web Admin BitLand
Ryan Berry, FInancial Advisor BitLand
Philip Asare, Community Leader BitLand
Ronny Boesing, Founder/CEO CCEDK


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Alex from ICO countdown is a KNOWN extortionist:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1480636.0



Interesting how a KNOWN extortionist is seemingly extorting Bryce...crazy how that works...

Funny how you have an unfeasable business model.

Have made many failed projects. Marinecoin / Coinproz

Bryce is working on your blockchain when you specifically didn't say you need any technology.

But keep spreading garbage and I'll keep promoting great projects not fallacies like yours.

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"No reason to take this personal"

This is bullshit.  You have people attacking someone's identity, and then people will assert, "they shouldn't get so defensive".

This is a ridiculous assertion.  These are REAL PEOPLE'S LIVES.  You can't just go around calling people "scammers".  I have been following Bryce since 2013.  He wasn't the "developer" of Bitland, and was brought on recently to help scale the entire project because of his expertise in the blockchain.

The problem is, you have a bunch of assholes who are willing to research as far as the word "scam", but not willing to ACTUALLY research.  It becomes very clear that one of the biggest problems Bryce encountered was SLANDER AND FUD. 

And when you talk about "failure rate" of his projects, his success rate is MUCH higher than the average 92% failure rate of ALL start-ups.

Effectively, you have people in this thread spreading bullshit.

You claim you did "research" on Bitland and assert we were "hiding" Bryce as a developer, and that is complete bullshit, because you took 5 minutes to read an ANN thread and came to some ridiculous conclusion based on 5 minutes.

This horse shit has to stop guys.  This isn't "due diligence". 

If you want to do some REAL research, please look around somewhere else besides this forum.

You can start with my academia page or Linked in profile.

https://indiana.academia.edu/ChrisBates

https://www.linkedin.com/in/larry-c-bates-99452594



Stop being assholes.


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Alex from ICO countdown is a KNOWN extortionist:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1480636.0



Interesting how a KNOWN extortionist is seemingly extorting Bryce...crazy how that works...

Funny how you have an unfeasable business model.

Have made many failed projects. Marinecoin / Coinproz

Bryce is working on your blockchain when you specifically didn't say you need any technology.

But keep spreading garbage and I'll keep promoting great projects not fallacies like yours.


Marinecoin is still around, and I did PR for that project, not develop it. It's not "failed".  Coinproz got FUDDED out of existence by trolls like you.  

You know nothing about Bitland, and you're an extortionist.

You're a faceless con artist.

People like you are the reason crypto has yet to go mainstream, you sycophantic parasite.

Bryce is working with us to develop a large scale blockchain, and he is in that position due to his experience.

You know nothing about anything.

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i wanted to say this seemed like a an actual decent concept for coin and see if it'd go well (possibly).

not i'm not so sure.  Undecided

$ADK ~ watch & learn...
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Bitland is a semi-finalist in the Venture Clash

http://www.ventureclash.com/

We are competing against 30 of the top digital health and fintech companies in the world for $5 million in investments.  We make it through to the next round we are guaranteed $500k.  

Pretty sure Bitland is going places.

Again, if you limit your knowledge based on Bitcointalk, the real world will pass you by...

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