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August 08, 2016, 02:01:55 PM
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"No reason to take this personal"

This is bullshit.  You have people attacking someone's identity, and then people will assert, "they shouldn't get so defensive".    

If this is an answer on my posts, you're mixing things up here. I speak only for myself and I have nobody else on my side.


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This is a ridiculous assertion.  These are REAL PEOPLE'S LIVES.  You can't just go around calling people "scammers".  I have been following Bryce since 2013.  He wasn't the "developer" of Bitland, and was brought on recently to help scale the entire project because of his expertise in the blockchain.

1. I did not use the word scammer.

2. Of course it's about real people lives. But it's also about real peoples real money. And if a project does an ICO it should be transparent and give informations without hiding important informations and answer on some questions. Bryce made an interview, claimed that it's impossible to buy >50% of the supply, no matter how much money, but even in the interview he refused to detail that out. And this ICO is without escrow and he also said that they already move and spend funds - before it has ended. Never seen that before tbh.



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The problem is, you have a bunch of assholes who are willing to research as far as the word "scam", but not willing to ACTUALLY research.  It becomes very clear that one of the biggest problems Bryce encountered was SLANDER AND FUD.  

And when you talk about "failure rate" of his projects, his success rate is MUCH higher than the average 92% failure rate of ALL start-ups.

Take a look into my posts: I did not speak about a failure rate. Not sure who did.

You say: "not willing to ACTUALLY research"

But I've listed up some points that are in fact questions.



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Effectively, you have people in this thread spreading bullshit.

You claim you did "research" on Bitland and assert we were "hiding" Bryce as a developer, and that is complete bullshit, because you took 5 minutes to read an ANN thread and came to some ridiculous conclusion based on 5 minutes.

Please be more precise. I did not say I did research. I've said this: "I've taken a quick look into the Bitland-threads"

And no, it's not edited.

But the point stays the same. Bitland did not say that he is a Dev for Bitland. And the "just helped us - story" is kind of old. And surprise, that was also said about this project in the other TAO-Thread:

"Bryce helped us in developing the project to fruition and we appreciate his efforts and enthusiasm in bringing this project to the attention of his friends in the community."
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1543866.msg15550724#msg15550724


...while he says in this thread:

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This is the first project that is truly my own (...)




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This horse shit has to stop guys.  This isn't "due diligence".  

If you want to do some REAL research, please look around somewhere else besides this forum.

You can start with my academia page or Linked in profile.

https://indiana.academia.edu/ChrisBates

https://www.linkedin.com/in/larry-c-bates-99452594

If I'm really interested I always look around everywhere I find informations. But I usually start with the presentations of projects on BCT - where teams announce their projects and ask for money if it's about ICO's.

And, tbh: I'm not sure why I should do research about you. Just because I've mentioned Bitland? It was Bryce himself who brought that up in his interview. I did not know that he is involved in Bitland. But if I would be invested in Bitland, of course, that would also be a question.
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August 08, 2016, 02:32:33 PM
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this project is full of hater i see.. lol
cmiiw, but this is the advantage when more people get mocking actually they are fall in it instead will turns the opposite

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August 08, 2016, 02:34:04 PM
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this is scam for sure.

http://btc12.com/2016/08/08/taoscam/

use google translation.
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"Famous scammers" go to jail in the United States.

Stop being ridiculous with this nonsense.


If you have never accomplished, built, or done anything in your life, and you call Bryce a scammer, you're the worst kind of parasite. 

The people that hide behind anonymity and slander people's names with the shout of "scammer", YOU are the ones preventing cryptocurrency from going mainstream.

YOU are the reason "real people" want nothing to do with crypto.

Stop "warning people" with all your bullshit, because at the end of the day you're nothing but shitty character assassins.  If you lost money from DAO or Ethereum because you didn't do your due diligence and threw your money at a 19 year old coder, that is your fault for being stupid.  If you have no ability to tell what is a "good project", and just judge based on the crowd, stop calling yourself an "investor", because you're nothing but a "gambler".

I get so sick of seeing this slanderous bullshit.


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Alex from ICO countdown is a KNOWN extortionist:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1480636.0



Interesting how a KNOWN extortionist is seemingly extorting Bryce...crazy how that works...

Funny how you have an unfeasable business model.

Have made many failed projects. Marinecoin / Coinproz

Bryce is working on your blockchain when you specifically didn't say you need any technology.

But keep spreading garbage and I'll keep promoting great projects not fallacies like yours.


Marinecoin is still around, and I did PR for that project, not develop it. It's not "failed".  Coinproz got FUDDED out of existence by trolls like you.  

You know nothing about Bitland, and you're an extortionist.

You're a faceless con artist.

People like you are the reason crypto has yet to go mainstream, you sycophantic parasite.

Bryce is working with us to develop a large scale blockchain, and he is in that position due to his experience.

You know nothing about anything.

Do you think, you're sounding remotely professional at the moment? You're really not. And the company you keep is even less so. Anyways, I would highly recommend avoiding this project.
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Alex from ICO countdown is a KNOWN extortionist:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1480636.0



Interesting how a KNOWN extortionist is seemingly extorting Bryce...crazy how that works...

Funny how you have an unfeasable business model.

Have made many failed projects. Marinecoin / Coinproz

Bryce is working on your blockchain when you specifically didn't say you need any technology.

But keep spreading garbage and I'll keep promoting great projects not fallacies like yours.


Marinecoin is still around, and I did PR for that project, not develop it. It's not "failed".  Coinproz got FUDDED out of existence by trolls like you.  

You know nothing about Bitland, and you're an extortionist.

You're a faceless con artist.

People like you are the reason crypto has yet to go mainstream, you sycophantic parasite.

Bryce is working with us to develop a large scale blockchain, and he is in that position due to his experience.

You know nothing about anything.

Do you think, you're sounding remotely professional at the moment? You're really not. And the company you keep is even less so. Anyways, I would highly recommend avoiding this project.

People are so god damn concerned with Bryce and something that truly does not affect them in any way whatsoever? Dear god the bitcointalk community is toxic as fuck, No wonder most people want nothing to do with bitcoin, Instead of helping people you all troll or make fun of them. Instead of Supporting people you bash them because you aren't them.

Some of you truly need to get life's outside of the internet, or heck even just go outside and look at the clouds for an hour or two. your brains are teeming with negativity.
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check this thread before investing in tao .... this forum has some info that tao is scam https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1578927.0
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People are so god damn concerned with Bryce and something that truly does not affect them in any way whatsoever? Dear god the bitcointalk community is toxic as fuck, No wonder most people want nothing to do with bitcoin, Instead of helping people you all troll or make fun of them. Instead of Supporting people you bash them because you aren't them.

Some of you truly need to get life's outside of the internet, or heck even just go outside and look at the clouds for an hour or two. your brains are teeming with negativity.

Get this right.

Bryce Weiner is the one asking for money.

Bryce Weiner said funds are held in multisig wallets. Bryce Weiner said he is already using ICO funds. Bitfinex also used multisig wallets and was hacked for $70 million. Count yourself lucky that Bryce is just using your ICO funds at Taco Bell.

Bryce Weiner has a history of launching scams and not delivering on any promises.

Dirac video:

http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XODU4MDYzMDE2.html

"You could buy a house with Dirac"

Bryce said TAO was his own project. What about abandoned Dirac?!

What lies.

Now it looks like he has scammed the people of Bitland. The story continues.

This is what will and is happening. Bitland defends Weiner. Thinks everyone just likes to hate on Weiner. Network launches. All hell breaks loose. Bitland comes to the conclusion that Weiner is an incompetent buffoon. Where is the ICO money? Bryce has stolen it Smiley Angry words are exchanged. Project fails. Bryce blames everyone else while eating tacos.
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 Thinks everyone just likes to hate on Weiner. Network launches. All hell breaks loose. Bitland comes to the conclusion that Weiner is an incompetent buffoon. Where is the ICO money? Bryce has stolen it Smiley Angry words are exchanged. Project fails. Bryce blames everyone else while eating tacos.


Hahaha. Headshot. Get out of this if you can, angry Bitland guy. This seriously isn't fud.
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People are so god damn concerned with Bryce and something that truly does not affect them in any way whatsoever? Dear god the bitcointalk community is toxic as fuck, No wonder most people want nothing to do with bitcoin, Instead of helping people you all troll or make fun of them. Instead of Supporting people you bash them because you aren't them.

Some of you truly need to get life's outside of the internet, or heck even just go outside and look at the clouds for an hour or two. your brains are teeming with negativity.

Get this right.

Bryce Weiner is the one asking for money.

Bryce Weiner said funds are held in multisig wallets. Bryce Weiner said he is already using ICO funds. Bitfinex also used multisig wallets and was hacked for $70 million. Count yourself lucky that Bryce is just using your ICO funds at Taco Bell.

Bryce Weiner has a history of launching scams and not delivering on any promises.

Dirac video:

http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XODU4MDYzMDE2.html

"You could buy a house with Dirac"

Bryce said TAO was his own project. What about abandoned Dirac?!

What lies.

Now it looks like he has scammed the people of Bitland. The story continues.

This is what will and is happening. Bitland defends Weiner. Thinks everyone just likes to hate on Weiner. Network launches. All hell breaks loose. Bitland comes to the conclusion that Weiner is an incompetent buffoon. Where is the ICO money? Bryce has stolen it Smiley Angry words are exchanged. Project fails. Bryce blames everyone else while eating tacos.


You do realise the entire point of an ICO is so you can get the funds to bring the project forward, ICO funds are MEANT to be spent on pr, Development and many many other necessary things to bring the project to fruition. Although considering most of the peolpe on bitcointalk like you know everything about everything and everyone they should already know this? right?

You guys are like god damn seagulls, annoying and good for nothing. Find something enjoyable to do with your time? Their are many people i dislike in the world but i have 49383 better things i could do than continue to come back to a thread i hate and waste more of my time replying even though it will never affect me. Sad sad sad.
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You do realise the entire point of an ICO is so you can get the funds to bring the project forward, ICO funds are MEANT to be spent on pr, Development and many many other necessary things to bring the project to fruition. Although considering most of the peolpe on bitcointalk like you know everything about everything and everyone they should already know this? right?

You guys are like god damn seagulls, annoying and good for nothing. Find something enjoyable to do with your time? Their are many people i dislike in the world but i have 49383 better things i could do than continue to come back to a thread i hate and waste more of my time replying even though it will never affect me. Sad sad sad.

We will be recommending that the attorneys ask the court to return the coins to the various communities whereby they can be redistributed, burned, or dealt with in some fair consensus manner.

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Where did you find this picture of him, I can't find it on a reverse image search...

Also does not surprise me this piece of shit is a mason. LOL

Hahahahah you are the guy calling him a piece of shit!
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You do realise the entire point of an ICO is so you can get the funds to bring the project forward, ICO funds are MEANT to be spent on pr, Development and many many other necessary things to bring the project to fruition. Although considering most of the peolpe on bitcointalk like you know everything about everything and everyone they should already know this? right?

You guys are like god damn seagulls, annoying and good for nothing. Find something enjoyable to do with your time? Their are many people i dislike in the world but i have 49383 better things i could do than continue to come back to a thread i hate and waste more of my time replying even though it will never affect me. Sad sad sad.

We will be recommending that the attorneys ask the court to return the coins to the various communities whereby they can be redistributed, burned, or dealt with in some fair consensus manner.

Great info worth its weight in GLD Wink
I'd stand with this recommendation. others?

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Huh

Where did you find this picture of him, I can't find it on a reverse image search...

Also does not surprise me this piece of shit is a mason. LOL

Hahahahah you are the guy calling him a piece of shit!


Actually.. if you kept reading that thread, that was when i first introduced myself to the bitcointalk community after the cryptsy scandal and was under the impression they had posted a picture of big vern as that is what we were talking about. LOL. so no.

But the fact that you spent a massive amount of your time looking through my profile and or those threads for something to attack bryce or for that matter even me about is pathetic and i feel bad for you.
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August 09, 2016, 11:47:47 PM
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Byrce Weinier is no doubt a scammer.

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Really interesting thread. Because.... nobody seems to be interested. Not even the Dev-team.
 
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The problem is, you have a bunch of assholes who are willing to research as far as the word "scam", but not willing to ACTUALLY research.  It becomes very clear that one of the biggest problems Bryce encountered was SLANDER AND FUD. 

...

And when you talk about "failure rate" of his projects, his success rate is MUCH higher than the average 92% failure rate of ALL start-ups.

...

Effectively, you have people in this thread spreading bullshit.

...

Stop being assholes.


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No idea who you are or what Bitland is, but that is about as far from a professional message as I can imagine.  Not a great first impression, engaging with people in that manner...

And regarding Bryce - anyone who wanted to do due diligence and talk to folks like Worth Godwin about Bitseeds or Brian Kelly about Nautiluscoin would soon find out what an incompetent (at best) and duplicitous person he has been in his crypto dealings.  Not to mention his past carnival barker-esque/delusional rantings, such as this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oX_OSq4v0M ...

Thankfully, projects like $XSEED, $GHC and $NAUT have managed to recover with the help of actual, capable programmers such as Luke Williams and Julian Yap, etc. - any success in a once-Bryce coin is DESPITE his behaviour and actions.

Other Bryce coins seem more ill-fated: $RZR, $AMK, $XPD, $XDQ, $OSC, etc.  All dead or near-death.

In short, Bryce creates a trail of digital crypto tears, and I can't recall a single crypto project he's been involved with at the DEV level in which the person hiring him was pleased with the results.  He's smart enough to speak in aphorisms so you can never really pin him down on anything, but don't be fooled.

Buyer beware, is all.  (And I do have to say that his coins have historically pumped at first - just crazily tanked shortly after launch for the most part, due to problems which are miraculously never due to his level of competence or chicanery.)
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The problem is, you have a bunch of assholes who are willing to research as far as the word "scam", but not willing to ACTUALLY research.  It becomes very clear that one of the biggest problems Bryce encountered was SLANDER AND FUD. 

...

And when you talk about "failure rate" of his projects, his success rate is MUCH higher than the average 92% failure rate of ALL start-ups.

...

Effectively, you have people in this thread spreading bullshit.

...

Stop being assholes.


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No idea who you are or what Bitland is, but that is about as far from a professional message as I can imagine.  Not a great first impression, engaging with people in that manner...

And regarding Bryce - anyone who wanted to do due diligence and talk to folks like Worth Godwin about Bitseeds or Brian Kelly about Nautiluscoin would soon find out what an incompetent (at best) and duplicitous person he has been in his crypto dealings.  Not to mention his past carnival barker-esque/delusional rantings, such as this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oX_OSq4v0M ...

Thankfully, projects like $XSEED, $GHC and $NAUT have managed to recover with the help of actual, capable programmers such as Luke Williams and Julian Yap, etc. - any success in a once-Bryce coin is DESPITE his behaviour and actions.

Other Bryce coins seem more ill-fated: $RZR, $AMK, $XPD, $XDQ, $OSC, etc.  All dead or near-death.

In short, Bryce creates a trail of digital crypto tears, and I can't recall a single crypto project he's been involved with at the DEV level in which the person hiring him was pleased with the results.  He's smart enough to speak in aphorisms so you can never really pin him down on anything, but don't be fooled.

Buyer beware, is all.  (And I do have to say that his coins have historically pumped at first - just crazily tanked shortly after launch for the most part, due to problems which are miraculously never due to his level of competence or chicanery.)


Tabali tigi is just scared that it could damage Bitland that Bryce told the world that he is involved. And maybe that's not even wrong. Kind of funny is how they introduce him:

https://steemit.com/bitland/@yasemin-gencer/members-of-bitland-global-assemble-in-bloomington-indiana

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Really interesting thread. Because.... nobody seems to be interested. Not even the Dev-team.
 

Thank you for your concern. We have been working on the back end on promotions, partnerships, and forming new ones as well.

There is much more to come, and we invite you to come back and review!
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Really interesting thread. Because.... nobody seems to be interested. Not even the Dev-team.
 

Thank you for your concern. We have been working on the back end on promotions, partnerships, and forming new ones as well.

There is much more to come, and we invite you to come back and review!

So, you don't think it's necessary to explain some things? This for example:

This is also interesting:

https://youtu.be/0dX18EZKiyk?t=1h9m40s

Bryce says, that TAO is basically PoS with a very tiny PoW. They talk about the security and immutability of the network and about the possibility that somebody could buy  > 50% of TAO. And B.W. claims, that it's impossible to buy 51% of the network, no matter how much money - but that it would be "improper" to point that out.

And, of course, usually it's impossible if a team, maybe plus friends, already own at least 51% of the total supply. And his interviewer asks him directly if he is speaking about self-buying - and Bryce doesn't answer, just smiles.  

(...)

?




I really don't get how somebody can do such a non-professional ICO (no escrow, no rules at all how it seems but already spending funds), raise a lot of serious questions while hyping this in an interview, and not saying anything at all.

But of course, some send a little money though. So it's all fine... ;-)  
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The problem is, you have a bunch of assholes who are willing to research as far as the word "scam", but not willing to ACTUALLY research.  It becomes very clear that one of the biggest problems Bryce encountered was SLANDER AND FUD.  

...

And when you talk about "failure rate" of his projects, his success rate is MUCH higher than the average 92% failure rate of ALL start-ups.

...

Effectively, you have people in this thread spreading bullshit.

...

Stop being assholes.


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No idea who you are or what Bitland is, but that is about as far from a professional message as I can imagine.  Not a great first impression, engaging with people in that manner...

And regarding Bryce - anyone who wanted to do due diligence and talk to folks like Worth Godwin about Bitseeds or Brian Kelly about Nautiluscoin would soon find out what an incompetent (at best) and duplicitous person he has been in his crypto dealings.  Not to mention his past carnival barker-esque/delusional rantings, such as this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oX_OSq4v0M ...

Thankfully, projects like $XSEED, $GHC and $NAUT have managed to recover with the help of actual, capable programmers such as Luke Williams and Julian Yap, etc. - any success in a once-Bryce coin is DESPITE his behaviour and actions.

Other Bryce coins seem more ill-fated: $RZR, $AMK, $XPD, $XDQ, $OSC, etc.  All dead or near-death.

In short, Bryce creates a trail of digital crypto tears, and I can't recall a single crypto project he's been involved with at the DEV level in which the person hiring him was pleased with the results.  He's smart enough to speak in aphorisms so you can never really pin him down on anything, but don't be fooled.

Buyer beware, is all.  (And I do have to say that his coins have historically pumped at first - just crazily tanked shortly after launch for the most part, due to problems which are miraculously never due to his level of competence or chicanery.)

Thanks for filling us in on this guy's shady history. I'll be keeping well away from this one.

Edit: Wow that video's pretty illuminating.

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The problem is, you have a bunch of assholes who are willing to research as far as the word "scam", but not willing to ACTUALLY research.  It becomes very clear that one of the biggest problems Bryce encountered was SLANDER AND FUD.  

...

And when you talk about "failure rate" of his projects, his success rate is MUCH higher than the average 92% failure rate of ALL start-ups.

...

Effectively, you have people in this thread spreading bullshit.

...

Stop being assholes.


Chris
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No idea who you are or what Bitland is, but that is about as far from a professional message as I can imagine.  Not a great first impression, engaging with people in that manner...

And regarding Bryce - anyone who wanted to do due diligence and talk to folks like Worth Godwin about Bitseeds or Brian Kelly about Nautiluscoin would soon find out what an incompetent (at best) and duplicitous person he has been in his crypto dealings.  Not to mention his past carnival barker-esque/delusional rantings, such as this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oX_OSq4v0M ...

Thankfully, projects like $XSEED, $GHC and $NAUT have managed to recover with the help of actual, capable programmers such as Luke Williams and Julian Yap, etc. - any success in a once-Bryce coin is DESPITE his behaviour and actions.

Other Bryce coins seem more ill-fated: $RZR, $AMK, $XPD, $XDQ, $OSC, etc.  All dead or near-death.

In short, Bryce creates a trail of digital crypto tears, and I can't recall a single crypto project he's been involved with at the DEV level in which the person hiring him was pleased with the results.  He's smart enough to speak in aphorisms so you can never really pin him down on anything, but don't be fooled.

Buyer beware, is all.  (And I do have to say that his coins have historically pumped at first - just crazily tanked shortly after launch for the most part, due to problems which are miraculously never due to his level of competence or chicanery.)

For no project have I ever asked for fund prior to this one.  This project is being managed for the sake of music industry politics, not to please the BitcoinTalk community.  It will never look like a traditional crypto ICO or project.  That's just the way it is.

My other project were, in fact, learning the technology and the community to be able to launch this project.  What you've highlighted is three years of public experimentation with the Bitcoin code base which enables a solution that can be used in business.

Let's talk about some of my other projects to clear the air.

Razor was a project of Blocktech and a legal disaster.  I was advised by my attorney to abandon it because of the way Blocktech handled it.

AmKoin has never been traded and was purely educational.  People still use the guides that I wrote to compile it.

Petrodollar was another experiment that I never sought to have traded, and yet was traded anyway.  That's the industry.

$XDQ was an experiment in market forces, hence the agreement for AllCrypt for a NAUT pairing.  Switching NAUT to POS was going to take more time and resources than I had available which is why I backed out.  I still have to make a living. Edit to add: the fact that BlueDragon77 got butthurt when I refused to work with his crooked Fleet Street backers is something that still echoes through the forums and BD77's draconian administration of the Blake-256 ecosystem that made it unusable for anyone.

Speaking of making a living, BitSeeds was a bunch of empty and/or broken promises and I regret ever involving myself with that project.

Anari Singbe has already posted a few times that Blocktech's management was the issue behind GamerholicCoin and had nothing to do with me or my technical expertise.  I actually didn't code that coin, at all.

If I'm guilty of anything it's putting my trust in those whom trust was not worth giving.  It is for that reason I am spearheading this project personally.

People get a little crazy when the potential for profits starts to become a reality, and when things go wrong traders are always looking for someone to blame.

This is the first time I've ever responded to any accusations and this will also be the last.  People will think what they want, but reality is often far divorced from what is seen on these forums.  

Welcome to the real crypto.

I'd like to take a moment to extend thanks to all of those who have supported this project thus far.  I am excited to reveal all that we have had in the works over the course of the remainder of the crowd sale.
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