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August 12, 2016, 10:20:03 AM
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While I have never invested in a Bryce project I think overall he gets too much criticism. He is good for the movement. So keep up the good work Bryce and I applaud you for having thick skin.
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August 12, 2016, 10:39:49 AM
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While I have never invested in a Bryce project I think overall he gets too much criticism. He is good for the movement. So keep up the good work Bryce and I applaud you for having thick skin.

really???

I think you have never been screwed enough by him.
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August 12, 2016, 10:45:32 AM
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What's this shit tao about ?

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August 12, 2016, 10:58:36 AM
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What's this shit tao about ?

it is supposed to be about some DAO about music and other shits.

Now it is drama about byrce weiner.
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August 12, 2016, 11:10:06 AM
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I personally don't pay much attention to the drama. I also don't criticize that he played some experimental games. Everybody knows that this is an experimental space and a high risk-market. So it's kind of normal that many projects will die and a lot of Developers move on to other projects and start something new - and some do it again and again etc.

But what I think is revealing: He doesn't answer on questions that are fundamental.
This one for example: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1567647.msg15892953#msg15892953

What I believe to see here is that he uses the drama. All of his friends and also he himself defend this more about personal-topics and how bad those are who scream "Scammer" and how toxic BCT is etc. But nobody talks about this ICO and how it's handled, the tech, the economical side, and so on. It's a total lack of professionalism in my opinion and my impression is: It's all rushed out. And every time something is rushed out the priority is "money soon".

My personal conclusion is: This won't have any chance and there is a high risk that it will end like the other experiments of B. Weiner. And for now I don't believe it's really legit, because it's never a good sign if somebody avoids to reply on questions about fundamentals while he himself raised a lot of questions in the interview.

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August 12, 2016, 01:48:13 PM
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But what I think is revealing: He doesn't answer on questions that are fundamental.
This one for example: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1567647.msg15892953#msg15892953

To best address this, there is a point at which you could 51% it with certain means, true. It is not as simple as just buying up the board.
Also, apologies, but the escrow was address countless times which signals us that no one paid attention before coming back to troll here which is why we choose to not engage in repeating ourselves. BCT is the smallest community we are engaging. Sorry BCT is not our primary target.

What I believe to see here is that he uses the drama. All of his friends and also he himself defend this more about personal-topics and how bad those are who scream "Scammer" and how toxic BCT is etc. But nobody talks about this ICO and how it's handled, the tech, the economical side, and so on. It's a total lack of professionalism in my opinion and my impression is: It's all rushed out. And every time something is rushed out the priority is "money soon".

No one knows how to plan for everything. This is going actually better than planned with more partnerships forming than expected. More team members will be joining to handle certain aspects far beyond the crypto space.

As previously stated, this is our first crowdsale campaign, so there is growing pains and learning curve. The tech is coming, it is being verified by trusted members of the community prior to release and launch, and will come in due time. The people that need to know the economy are fully made aware, and if it is unclear, it can be discussed outside of, how you said, a toxic environment.  

My personal conclusion is: This won't have any chance and there is a high risk that it will end like the other experiments of B. Weiner. And for now I don't believe it's really legit, because it's never a good sign if somebody avoids to reply on questions about fundamentals while he himself raised a lot of questions in the interview.

All responses are met based on trust and respect. This can be discussed further on other platforms, and we welcome everyone to our slack channel to chat. Thank you for your time.
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August 12, 2016, 07:20:39 PM
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I'm new to this crypto world, but not new to investing in startups. When I invest in a startup, I also look at the people that will actually make things happen.
From the research I have done, the developer of this project has not once followed through on any projects, oops, I mean experiments.
It is perfectly acceptable for an experiment to 'fail', in fact most do. But when people invest, you are now experimenting with their money, without informing them it's an experiment. This is highly unethical.
Blaming everyone else for mistakes reminds me a lot of my teenage daughter, everything is always someone elses fault, never taking responsibility for her own actions. I love her to bits, but I wouldn't invest in her startup.
All startups are hard work, things get tough. Considering anytime things have gotten tough, he has jumped ship, I have little confidence in his ability to follow through on this. It will most likely end up as another past experiment.

The project itself is interesting, and in many ways looks promising, but I would not invest a single dollar in this developer. He seems like a great salesman, but I have yet to see any evidence he's a good programmer or businessman.
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August 12, 2016, 07:21:41 PM
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No idea who you are or what Bitland is, but that is about as far from a professional message as I can imagine.  Not a great first impression, engaging with people in that manner...

And regarding Bryce - anyone who wanted to do due diligence and talk to folks like Worth Godwin about Bitseeds or Brian Kelly about Nautiluscoin would soon find out what an incompetent (at best) and duplicitous person he has been in his crypto dealings.  Not to mention his past carnival barker-esque/delusional rantings, such as this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oX_OSq4v0M ...

Thankfully, projects like $XSEED, $GHC and $NAUT have managed to recover with the help of actual, capable programmers such as Luke Williams and Julian Yap, etc. - any success in a once-Bryce coin is DESPITE his behaviour and actions.

Other Bryce coins seem more ill-fated: $RZR, $AMK, $XPD, $XDQ, $OSC, etc.  All dead or near-death.

In short, Bryce creates a trail of digital crypto tears, and I can't recall a single crypto project he's been involved with at the DEV level in which the person hiring him was pleased with the results.  He's smart enough to speak in aphorisms so you can never really pin him down on anything, but don't be fooled.

Buyer beware, is all.  (And I do have to say that his coins have historically pumped at first - just crazily tanked shortly after launch for the most part, due to problems which are miraculously never due to his level of competence or chicanery.)

Bravo. Maybe a bit more emphasis on him blaming absolutely everyone apart from himself ... Kinda like he's doing now. It's standard Bryce.
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August 12, 2016, 07:44:43 PM
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No escrow. Why?
where I can see the code in Github please?
I'm out. Good luck
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August 12, 2016, 07:45:18 PM
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I'm new to this crypto world, but not new to investing in startups. When I invest in a startup, I also look at the people that will actually make things happen.
From the research I have done, the developer of this project has not once followed through on any projects, oops, I mean experiments.
It is perfectly acceptable for an experiment to 'fail', in fact most do. But when people invest, you are now experimenting with their money, without informing them it's an experiment. This is highly unethical.
Blaming everyone else for mistakes reminds me a lot of my teenage daughter, everything is always someone elses fault, never taking responsibility for her own actions. I love her to bits, but I wouldn't invest in her startup.
All startups are hard work, things get tough. Considering anytime things have gotten tough, he has jumped ship, I have little confidence in his ability to follow through on this. It will most likely end up as another past experiment.

The project itself is interesting, and in many ways looks promising, but I would not invest a single dollar in this developer. He seems like a great salesman, but I have yet to see any evidence he's a good programmer or businessman.

Amen, to all of this.  
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August 13, 2016, 01:34:52 PM
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The problem is, you have a bunch of assholes who are willing to research as far as the word "scam", but not willing to ACTUALLY research.  It becomes very clear that one of the biggest problems Bryce encountered was SLANDER AND FUD.  

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And when you talk about "failure rate" of his projects, his success rate is MUCH higher than the average 92% failure rate of ALL start-ups.

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Effectively, you have people in this thread spreading bullshit.

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Stop being assholes.


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No idea who you are or what Bitland is, but that is about as far from a professional message as I can imagine.  Not a great first impression, engaging with people in that manner...

And regarding Bryce - anyone who wanted to do due diligence and talk to folks like Worth Godwin about Bitseeds or Brian Kelly about Nautiluscoin would soon find out what an incompetent (at best) and duplicitous person he has been in his crypto dealings.  Not to mention his past carnival barker-esque/delusional rantings, such as this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oX_OSq4v0M ...

Thankfully, projects like $XSEED, $GHC and $NAUT have managed to recover with the help of actual, capable programmers such as Luke Williams and Julian Yap, etc. - any success in a once-Bryce coin is DESPITE his behaviour and actions.

Other Bryce coins seem more ill-fated: $RZR, $AMK, $XPD, $XDQ, $OSC, etc.  All dead or near-death.

In short, Bryce creates a trail of digital crypto tears, and I can't recall a single crypto project he's been involved with at the DEV level in which the person hiring him was pleased with the results.  He's smart enough to speak in aphorisms so you can never really pin him down on anything, but don't be fooled.

Buyer beware, is all.  (And I do have to say that his coins have historically pumped at first - just crazily tanked shortly after launch for the most part, due to problems which are miraculously never due to his level of competence or chicanery.)

For no project have I ever asked for fund prior to this one.  This project is being managed for the sake of music industry politics, not to please the BitcoinTalk community.  It will never look like a traditional crypto ICO or project.  That's just the way it is.

My other project were, in fact, learning the technology and the community to be able to launch this project.  What you've highlighted is three years of public experimentation with the Bitcoin code base which enables a solution that can be used in business.

Let's talk about some of my other projects to clear the air.

Razor was a project of Blocktech and a legal disaster.  I was advised by my attorney to abandon it because of the way Blocktech handled it.

AmKoin has never been traded and was purely educational.  People still use the guides that I wrote to compile it.

Petrodollar was another experiment that I never sought to have traded, and yet was traded anyway.  That's the industry.

$XDQ was an experiment in market forces, hence the agreement for AllCrypt for a NAUT pairing.  Switching NAUT to POS was going to take more time and resources than I had available which is why I backed out.  I still have to make a living. Edit to add: the fact that BlueDragon77 got butthurt when I refused to work with his crooked Fleet Street backers is something that still echoes through the forums and BD77's draconian administration of the Blake-256 ecosystem that made it unusable for anyone.

Speaking of making a living, BitSeeds was a bunch of empty and/or broken promises and I regret ever involving myself with that project.

Anari Singbe has already posted a few times that Blocktech's management was the issue behind GamerholicCoin and had nothing to do with me or my technical expertise.  I actually didn't code that coin, at all.

If I'm guilty of anything it's putting my trust in those whom trust was not worth giving.  It is for that reason I am spearheading this project personally.

People get a little crazy when the potential for profits starts to become a reality, and when things go wrong traders are always looking for someone to blame.

This is the first time I've ever responded to any accusations and this will also be the last.  People will think what they want, but reality is often far divorced from what is seen on these forums.  

Welcome to the real crypto.

I'd like to take a moment to extend thanks to all of those who have supported this project thus far.  I am excited to reveal all that we have had in the works over the course of the remainder of the crowd sale.



Thanks for taking the time to, address the trolls.
 I like the concept and will take a punt on it.
 This is a good opportunity, to show what you can do, and let the market decide what to do with it.
Good luck mate

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August 15, 2016, 11:38:18 AM
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Hello,

this ICO has been added on https://www.ico-list.com/ !

Thanks for contacting me if some details are wrong.
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August 15, 2016, 04:01:27 PM
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Hello,

this ICO has been added on https://www.ico-list.com/ !

Thanks for contacting me if some details are wrong.

I like the website, thank you for the add!
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August 17, 2016, 03:15:54 AM
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Day One

Meet the Team

-snip-

Mr. Tao Sauron, can you kindly post social network profiles of these people? So I could contact them and make sure they are really in charge.

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August 17, 2016, 03:32:06 AM
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most stupid scam i have ever seen.  Grin
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August 17, 2016, 05:11:01 AM
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most stupid scam i have ever seen.  Grin
Most stupid? Nah, this one is an average scam. Really scam? It most likely is but one can't really tell it yet.

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August 17, 2016, 05:40:53 AM
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most stupid scam i have ever seen.  Grin
Most stupid? Nah, this one is an average scam. Really scam? It most likely is but one can't really tell it yet.

byrce is biggest red flag. if this is not scam? then no scam at all.
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August 17, 2016, 05:41:05 AM
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What's this shit tao about ?

it is supposed to be about some DAO about music and other shits.

Now it is drama about byrce weiner.

Scam 4 sure! Bryce cant be trusted and neither can the coin. Stay away and make sure you dont click on any links or download any wallets. Be careful because your money is on the line.
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August 17, 2016, 07:44:47 AM
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Too many ICO these days.  Cool
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most stupid scam i have ever seen.  Grin
Most stupid? Nah, this one is an average scam. Really scam? It most likely is but one can't really tell it yet.

byrce is biggest red flag. if this is not scam? then no scam at all.

You literally spend more time on this thread bashing bryce then you do anywhere else on bitcointalk, do you have a life sir? LOL

I know it's unfortunate your parents forgot to abort you as a child and you still feel the repercussions of it today, but it does not mean you need to take out your anger on others. Their is many therapy groups and numbers for you to call, i can help you if you'd like?
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