My second ZEC + XMR+ ETH thread builds info links thoughts and photos.

[xleejohnx]

Phil, I'll never understand your logic. Why taking such high end parts ? A platform costs me less than 300$, PSU included ! However, fitting all in a case is a genius move. I'll see if I can do the same for my next one !
Also, you know, risers increased a lot in quality in four years, and now, on Amazon, there's a lot of reliable risers. Never got deceived of any of mine.

hello redrose

can share your 300 dollar rig?

-Intel G1820 : 43,14$
-ASRock PRO BTC H97 Anniversary : 84,99$
-Kingston HyperX 8 Gb : 39,99$
-Lepa MaxBron 1000W : 109,99$
-Western Digital Caviar Blue 320 Gb : 20,99$
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TOTAL : 299,1$

Phil, I'll never understand your logic. Why taking such high end parts ? A platform costs me less than 300$, PSU included ! However, fitting all in a case is a genius move. I'll see if I can do the same for my next one !
Also, you know, risers increased a lot in quality in four years, and now, on Amazon, there's a lot of reliable risers. Never got deceived of any of mine.

Exit strategy...  It is easier to sell higher end parts to gamers when you're done using the cards for mining.  

It might sounds a good plan, but depending of where you live, reselling parts may be a real pain. I prefer to go cheaper and keep it, that'll always be useful in some way.

A good suggestion so you don't waste money if you buy many of those..

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story6&reid=413

Don't.

For a budget build ok, but the PSU, and I speak for very high direct experience, given that it's the most important thing in a system, needs to be very good, with high quality components and topology.

Be careful with budget PSU's, there's a reason if it has a very low MSRP.

yeah I get better psu's as routine when when I find a good price I get them.


Oh four card build in that case has been a disaster. I shorted two pcie slots on the mobo.  not sure if it was the fault of the case my self or the mobo.
one problem was the rx 470's I used had a back plate and were not fitting due to the backplate.

did not kill the cards.  for now I am using the mobo as a two card miner.

I have a lot of things on my plate I will not be doing more build I am now at 400mh +

Yeah that's the crappy thing about the 470s ref card that damn backplate being too thick..
So how many cards are you pushing now? 20ish?
How many watts you looking at?

[philipma1957]

Phil, I'll never understand your logic. Why taking such high end parts ? A platform costs me less than 300$, PSU included ! However, fitting all in a case is a genius move. I'll see if I can do the same for my next one !
Also, you know, risers increased a lot in quality in four years, and now, on Amazon, there's a lot of reliable risers. Never got deceived of any of mine.

hello redrose

can share your 300 dollar rig?

-Intel G1820 : 43,14$
-ASRock PRO BTC H97 Anniversary : 84,99$
-Kingston HyperX 8 Gb : 39,99$
-Lepa MaxBron 1000W : 109,99$
-Western Digital Caviar Blue 320 Gb : 20,99$
---------------------------------------------------
TOTAL : 299,1$

Phil, I'll never understand your logic. Why taking such high end parts ? A platform costs me less than 300$, PSU included ! However, fitting all in a case is a genius move. I'll see if I can do the same for my next one !
Also, you know, risers increased a lot in quality in four years, and now, on Amazon, there's a lot of reliable risers. Never got deceived of any of mine.

Exit strategy...  It is easier to sell higher end parts to gamers when you're done using the cards for mining.  

It might sounds a good plan, but depending of where you live, reselling parts may be a real pain. I prefer to go cheaper and keep it, that'll always be useful in some way.

A good suggestion so you don't waste money if you buy many of those..

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story6&reid=413

Don't.

For a budget build ok, but the PSU, and I speak for very high direct experience, given that it's the most important thing in a system, needs to be very good, with high quality components and topology.

Be careful with budget PSU's, there's a reason if it has a very low MSRP.

yeah I get better psu's as routine when when I find a good price I get them.


Oh four card build in that case has been a disaster. I shorted two pcie slots on the mobo.  not sure if it was the fault of the case my self or the mobo.
one problem was the rx 470's I used had a back plate and were not fitting due to the backplate.

did not kill the cards.  for now I am using the mobo as a two card miner.

I have a lot of things on my plate I will not be doing more build I am now at 400mh +

Yeah that's the crappy thing about the 470s ref card that damn backplate being too thick..
So how many cards are you pushing now? 20ish?
How many watts you looking at?

Okay I  have an rx 470  sealed plus below>

 11 rx 480s
   6 rx 470's add to about 402mh.

 Total watts is 2600 I need to check that. I could run 1 more  going to 425mh and 2725 watts

look below

[QuintLeo]

why you not use usb riser ?

If you can insert 4 cards per rig, it fits into nice pc case and temperatures are in acceptable range - forget about risers. That build is safer.

this was my original intention to Phil, to find an optimum method to rack or get them rig into a decent chassis, for ISP hosting.

So far 4xGPU mobo in a decent  full ATX may do the trick like Phil's Rosewill case.

Any other suggestions is welcomed.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                        

 They're a bit more expensive, but NewEgg DOES list at least 2 actual 4U rackmount cases with "8 perepheral" slots suitable for mounting 4x dual-width GPUs.
 One of them had 3x 120mm fans (might need to upgrade to BETTER fans but the spaces are there to do so), the other though looked like a single-fan setup that would NOT provide decent airflow for cooling with anything less than a 140mm Delta top-end screamer (but only has the SPACE to mount a 120, which IME would be marginal but MIGHT be enough with the 250+ CFM Delta 120s).



 Does anyone else hate Etherpool's new "pretty but DAMN it's a pain to see all the info that's USEFUL" stats display?
 I find having to click a BUNCH of times, AND change pages, just to see all the USEFUL info that was on their old design page irritating.

 I want the mining calculation and the INDIVIDUAL CHARTS PER CLIENT on one page, always displayed - the current setup takes me something like 10 TIMES as long to do my "miner check" routine multiple times a day, and just absolutely sucks - yet they insist on wasting a ton of space on "pretty" and "fancy" shit I couldn't care less about like that "shares each hour" chart. Having to click on each client to GET the damned chart is a major waste of time when you have quite a few miners.

 They take WAY too long to decide a miner has shut down, which is why I want the CHARTS - I can usually tell by the CHART when a miner is shut down a good hour BEFORE their "oops, client died" stuff figures it out.

[rawbert]

                                                                                                             

 Does anyone else hate Etherpool's new "pretty but DAMN it's a pain to see all the info that's USEFUL" stats display?
 I find having to click a BUNCH of times, AND change pages, just to see all the USEFUL info that was on their old design page irritating.

 I want the mining calculation and the INDIVIDUAL CHARTS PER CLIENT on one page, always displayed - the current setup takes me something like 10 TIMES as long to do my "miner check" routine multiple times a day, and just absolutely sucks - yet they insist on wasting a ton of space on "pretty" and "fancy" shit I couldn't care less about like that "shares each hour" chart. Having to click on each client to GET the damned chart is a major waste of time when you have quite a few miners.

 They take WAY too long to decide a miner has shut down, which is why I want the CHARTS - I can usually tell by the CHART when a miner is shut down a good hour BEFORE their "oops, client died" stuff figures it out.

I agree man, I hate the new ethermine interface too.. and everybody I talked to hates it as well.. before it was a nice one pager, easy to read.. now it's all tabbed and fancy but slows you down too much..

[philipma1957]

yeah old way was far better.  the new designer should be fined

I have a lot of rigs  will go to more in the winter.  I need too many clicks this way.

[LoneRangir]

Does anyone get email updates from the webpage?  I've yet to sign up, but I need to. Turns out a storm took my power out this morning.  Took me WAY TOO LONG to figure out my machines were not mining.

[Lion BItcoin Shop]

why you not use usb riser ?

He said the quality of the USB risers are not so good.

I use all my rigs with USB or ribbon risers as the heating is a concern for my mining operation.

Im running 2x R9 390 , 1x R9 280x and 1x R9 290 without any problem, with heating or etc. all use usb 3.0 riser .

[philipma1957]

Does anyone get email updates from the webpage?  I've yet to sign up, but I need to. Turns out a storm took my power out this morning.  Took me WAY TOO LONG to figure out my machines were not mining.

yeah one hour after they are down you get an email

[LoneRangir]

Phil, any luck with that case?  I currently have 3 cards in a case that will only fit as much.  I either need to go to another open air case (DIYPC), or get something similar as what you bought below (but it was a disaster).

Any update/insight would be appreciated.

[xleejohnx]

Phil, any luck with that case?  I currently have 3 cards in a case that will only fit as much.  I either need to go to another open air case (DIYPC), or get something similar as what you bought below (but it was a disaster).

Any update/insight would be appreciated.

non back plating cards.
i think that was most of his problem the sapphire ref 470 cards have a thick back plate so when he spaced them with hdmi plugs it put to much on the pcie lanes and pop them.. thats what im guessing. so small to no back plating would work great in a 4 card case

[philipma1957]

Phil, any luck with that case?  I currently have 3 cards in a case that will only fit as much.  I either need to go to another open air case (DIYPC), or get something similar as what you bought below (but it was a disaster).

Any update/insight would be appreciated.

non back plating cards.
i think that was most of his problem the sapphire ref 470 cards have a thick back plate so when he spaced them with hdmi plugs it put to much on the pcie lanes and pop them.. thats what im guessing. so small to no back plating would work great in a 4 card case

Yep.

I just got busy with other stuff.  The solar array is acting up.

And in real world my kitchen Renovation finally ended. 69 days.

Had to fire the contractor. I hired two guys to move the old refrigerator to the garage and the new refrigerator to the kitchen.
I also had to buy five small white junction boxes and put them under counter to protect the wire ing of the under cabinet lights.

[QuintLeo]

Does anyone get email updates from the webpage? 

 I tried that for a while, but it was worthless *FOR ME* when I only check my email 1 or 2 times a day.

 It also has the SAME issue that it takes them a LONG TIME to figure out a miner has gone down at all - that's WHY I want the individual miner charts ON ONE PAGE so I can just glance at them occasionally and SEE that a miner crashed commonly within a few minutes of it doing so, instead of waiting 2-3 HOURS a lot of the time for their web page to finally decide "yup, that miner went down".


 It's less of an issue today than it was yesterday - profitability on my GTX 9xx based rigs dropped enough that I finally pulled them from Ethereum mining in favor of what I ORIGINALLY built them for - and they're actually making almost as much while doing stuff I class as "more useful".


 Next step - get the bloody Trinity A10 APUs replaced with updated ones that don't get disabled FOR NO BLOODY REASON when I put a discrete GPU in the machine that's not crossfireable. A10-7870Ks have gotten pretty affordable (the 7890K is still too pricey and doesn't offer significantly better performance, the 7860K "TDP LIMITS" out way too easily due to stupid BIOS on modern motherboard FORCING it to do so way too soon).


 Now if I could find a bloody FM2+ motherboard that has 3+ 16x slots (preferably with PROPER spacing, right now NO FM2+ motherboard spaces the damned slots right that I can find anywhere) AND doesn't force me to use USB for the damned mouse, I'd be happy!

[LoneRangir]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/322237833056

Is this useful?

[squatz1]

Posting here to follow this, seems like an awesome thread!

Also, how much does the power around you cost? As the power where I am is very exspensive.

[philipma1957]

Posting here to follow this, seems like an awesome thread!

Also, how much does the power around you cost? As the power where I am is very exspensive.

my summer power cost is 18 cents a kwatt.  well 16.7 and add 1.3 for extra ac. so 18 cents

I use 2600 watts  or 2.6 kwatts x 24 x 30  x 18 cents  that is 336 usd per month in the summer.  for winter I will drop to 166.

 I am earning  about 842 before power or 500 after power for august.

[xleejohnx]

Posting here to follow this, seems like an awesome thread!

Also, how much does the power around you cost? As the power where I am is very exspensive.

my summer power cost is 18 cents a kwatt.  well 16.7 and add 1.3 for extra ac. so 18 cents

I use 2600 watts  or 2.6 kwatts x 24 x 30  x 18 cents  that is 336 usd per month in the summer.  for winter I will drop to 166.

 I am earning  about 842 before power or 500 after power for august.

im dual mining on my cards and the siacoins im mining are paying almost all of my rigs power bill. might be something to look into
my hashing dropped a total of 4mhs over 6 cards. im gaining almost 60$ more a month in sia so in the long run im gaining more than losing

[philipma1957]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/322237833056

Is this useful?

Not sure it has been a long time since I used Amd mobo

[Hamstead]

Posting here to follow this, seems like an awesome thread!

Also, how much does the power around you cost? As the power where I am is very exspensive.

my summer power cost is 18 cents a kwatt.  well 16.7 and add 1.3 for extra ac. so 18 cents

I use 2600 watts  or 2.6 kwatts x 24 x 30  x 18 cents  that is 336 usd per month in the summer.  for winter I will drop to 166.

 I am earning  about 842 before power or 500 after power for august.

im dual mining on my cards and the siacoins im mining are paying almost all of my rigs power bill. might be something to look into
my hashing dropped a total of 4mhs over 6 cards. im gaining almost 60$ more a month in sia so in the long run im gaining more than losing

You said hashing dropped a total of 4mhs over 6 cards.

Does it mean you use the old cards like the AMD 280x?

[LoneRangir]

You said hashing dropped a total of 4mhs over 6 cards.

Does it mean you use the old cards like the AMD 280x?

No, the GPUs are mining both at the same time, but the other coin being mined slightly makes it slightly less efficient at mining ETH.

For example (Just making these numbers up), a GPU can mine 25 MH/s by strickly mining ETH.  It can mine 24 MH/s if it mines ETH and SIA at the same time.  The SIA that is mined while mining both can be sold to roughly cover the cost of electricity. 

You're getting slighty less ETH than you would if you only mined ETH.

[QuintLeo]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/322237833056

Is this useful?

 Nope, it's not FM2+.

 The -UD7 IS one of the very few motherboards around that will handle 4x dual width cards WITHOUT risers though, and was a very well reguarded board in it's time, and it WOULD be a good board for a no-riser 3 card build that leaves SPACE between dual-width boards (and is even usable for 3 cards no-risers with "2.5" width cards like some of the HIS "Ice-Q" blower model cards).