My second ZEC + XMR+ ETH thread builds info links thoughts and photos.

[ps_jb]

Just loaded clay 7

more improvement

my amps dropped from 7.9 to 7.7 I was able to lower fans more

so 7.7 x 240 = 1848 watts  so say 1850

and looks like  H is going to 2.3-2.4

this would be .77 watts a H/s across entire system.

here is hoping it all stays stable.

Phil, do you mine ETH and ZEC or just ZEC?

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[philipma1957]

Just loaded clay 7

more improvement

my amps dropped from 7.9 to 7.7 I was able to lower fans more

so 7.7 x 240 = 1848 watts  so say 1850

and looks like  H is going to 2.3-2.4

this would be .77 watts a H/s across entire system.

here is hoping it all stays stable.

Phil, do you mine ETH and ZEC or just ZEC?

five pcs on zec at my house

7.7 amps  using 240 volts is nice the  house is comfortable and quiet total of 18 gpus using the 5 mobos

1 pc on eth  at the solar array 4 gpus

[AriesIV10]

WARNING:

Truly ask yourselves about mining profitability.

Take all of the Factors into consideration:
* There is an improved speed by about 15-25% for Claymore's v7.0 for ZEC
* There is an power improvement by 5% for Claymore's v7.0 for ZEC
* Previous Claymore's V6.0 for ZEC was 32% less profitable than Claymores Dual 7.4 for ETH
* There is a 14% drop in ZEC price

I add all of these numbers up and it does not seem profitable to mine ZEC unless you see some future profitability in ZEC holdings...I do not.

This forum has helped me so, I am hoping to help you in this information.

[ps_jb]

Phil and AriesIV10,

I switched all my 2 rigs to ETH. Mining ZEC gives substantially lower profit on my setups

[philipma1957]

Phil and AriesIV10,

I switched all my 2 rigs to ETH. Mining ZEC gives substantially lower profit on my setups

Well  for me  with the lower volts and low clocks  zec still works.

5 rigs 18 cards  2.3 to 2.4KH of hash

7.7 x 240 volts =  1848 watts

every fan at 50% = pretty quiet

monthly kwatts are 1376.4  x .127 cents = 175 USD for power

earn .3 zec a day x .095 = .0285 btc a day x 745 = $21.23 x 31 = 658 usd a month - 175 power = 483 profit.

I figure the heat is worth about  $1.50 a day so add back 45 and I am at 528 profit per month

Eth would earn more  but  I would burn more power  higher fan speeds.

I like a four   card rig near 400 watts
I like a three card rig near 300 watts

This power savings make the hobby easy to do.
I still point a four card rig to Eth  but it uses 580 watts vs 400 watts.

I am not sure I could get the rigs to drop power on eth like I can on zec

[rawbert]

24 cards in 4 rigs, 21x msi 470 4gb, 3x ref 480 8gb, all celeron 1840s.
3616H/s so that's about 150h/card; 2800W at the wall so 0.77H/W.
It might get a bit better if I try to lower voltage offset right now 0, v is around 0.93-0.95.
1500 straps, 1180/950 core, 1850/950 mem.

[QuintLeo]

WARNING:

Truly ask yourselves about mining profitability.

Take all of the Factors into consideration:
* There is an improved speed by about 15-25% for Claymore's v7.0 for ZEC
* There is an power improvement by 5% for Claymore's v7.0 for ZEC
* Previous Claymore's V6.0 for ZEC was 32% less profitable than Claymores Dual 7.4 for ETH
* There is a 14% drop in ZEC price

I add all of these numbers up and it does not seem profitable to mine ZEC unless you see some future profitability in ZEC holdings...I do not.

This forum has helped me so, I am hoping to help you in this information.

 ETH profitabiity has also dropped quite a bit the last week - you pretty much have to crunch the CURRENT numbers on at least a daily basis.

 Also really need to factor in the other options as well, like XMR and ETC et cetera.

[vg54dett]

Pofitability vary each day , and maybe 2-3 times a day.
Hard to change mining, earn enough, and get the payment confirmed to the trading platform soon enough to sell before the profitability change ....

[philipma1957]

For now I am doing about 180 for power and 558 for coins monthly  with zec

I like zec due to stable downclock undervolt

fans at 50% cards at 60c

300 watts on a 3 card rig

400 watts on a 4 card rig

I will stick with zec for now 

I know Eth may be the final choice.



I do have a 4 card rig on eth  580 watts stable 92 mh

I would move to eth soon but power could jump from

7.7 amps at 240 to 10 amps at 240

[vg54dett]

Phil , how do you sell your ZEC ?
do you sell everything ? with a feature like auto-sell , or do you follow the charts ?

[ps_jb]

Phil , how do you sell your ZEC ?
do you sell everything ? with a feature like auto-sell , or do you follow the charts ?

I sold everything on the market price every time I got the payment from flypool (0.01 ZEC).

This "strategy" worked from day 1.

[philipma1957]

Phil , how do you sell your ZEC ?
do you sell everything ? with a feature like auto-sell , or do you follow the charts ?

I sold everything on the market price every time I got the payment from flypool (0.01 ZEC).

This "strategy" worked from day 1.

I vary on this  I do 1 sale a day.  I have grabbed a few bounces.

[Umisater]

Phil , how do you sell your ZEC ?
do you sell everything ? with a feature like auto-sell , or do you follow the charts ?

I sell the ZEC the moment it is in my exchange account. I reckon it will drop to 60-70% of current price due to the increased supply.

[xleejohnx]

Phil , how do you sell your ZEC ?
do you sell everything ? with a feature like auto-sell , or do you follow the charts ?

I sell the ZEC the moment it is in my exchange account. I reckon it will drop to 60-70% of current price due to the increased supply.

I stopped mining zec and went to Nicehash multi.
I'm getting the same pay all the way around right now (zec/xmr/eth)
And it's straight into my btc account

[Zenixin]

Phil , how do you sell your ZEC ?
do you sell everything ? with a feature like auto-sell , or do you follow the charts ?

I sell the ZEC the moment it is in my exchange account. I reckon it will drop to 60-70% of current price due to the increased supply.

I stopped mining zec and went to Nicehash multi.
I'm getting the same pay all the way around right now (zec/xmr/eth)
And it's straight into my btc account

I thought the fee in the Nicehash renting service is 3%. So it that similar profitable to the mining directly?

[vg54dett]

Phil , how do you sell your ZEC ?
do you sell everything ? with a feature like auto-sell , or do you follow the charts ?

I sold everything on the market price every time I got the payment from flypool (0.01 ZEC).

This "strategy" worked from day 1.

So you make manual sales couple of time per day ?

In my case , I'm currently trying the auto-sell feature from bittrex, but I can't understand what rate they use for the sale. (is it the column "bid/ask" or the column "actual rate" when you look at the order history ?)
If someone use it and understood it, I would be glad to have an explaination.

[xleejohnx]

Phil , how do you sell your ZEC ?
do you sell everything ? with a feature like auto-sell , or do you follow the charts ?

I sell the ZEC the moment it is in my exchange account. I reckon it will drop to 60-70% of current price due to the increased supply.

I stopped mining zec and went to Nicehash multi.
I'm getting the same pay all the way around right now (zec/xmr/eth)
And it's straight into my btc account

I thought the fee in the Nicehash renting service is 3%. So it that similar profitable to the mining directly?

The fee is 3%
But when you add in claymore fee selling at exchange fee withdraw fee
For me a small miner it's best to use nicehash ATM
The difference right now is 13 cents a card if I mine directly

[wlefever]

If anyone is interested I have the following below I will be selling soon.  Everything runs great I am just moving temporarily for work and won't be continuing to run this rig and maybe my other.

Biostar Racing Z170GT7 mobo
Intel Pentium G4400
Kingston HyperX FURY Black 8GB 2133MHz DDR4
(3) PowerColor RED DEVIL Radeon RX 470 4GBD5-3DH/OC 4GB
Sapphire Radeon RX 480 4GB
EVGA SuperNOVA 1000G2 ATX12VPSU & EVGA SuperNOVA 650G1 ATX12V PSU

Please PM if there is any interest before I create a listing on the sales thread.

[philipma1957]

Zec is doing a big time rally  now close to .108  up from .073


For me 0.400 zec a day = 0.0432 btc  at  739 usd = 32 usd a day

I use about 1900 watts so 2 x 24 = 48 kwatts  that is 6.10 a day  lets say the heat is worth 1.10  I spend 5 a day on power and 32 -5 = 27 profit a day x 30 = 810 a month.

I feel there are more then 150 companies that benefit from the success of this coin.

The market cap is small it is easy to feed money into exchanges to boos price of coin

ram companies

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[GabryRox]

Yeah very nice to see that price creep up.  I finally eclipsed 1 ZEC with my modest 4-card rig and tempted to sell a bit of it now but in reality, I will probably just hold it. Not like selling half of it is going to make any real difference for me so might as well hold and see if it takes off.

I have most of what I need to build my 2nd rig when I get back in town next week, but only have 3 GPUs so hoping to find some good deals during the black friday/cyber monday craze.  Anyone know what kind of deals to expect on 470's?  I would highly prefer to stay with MSI 4GB but would consider other brands if the they are solid and a great deal. What would be considered maybe the 2 other top brands of this card along with MSI?  Sapphire I would assume is really good and I've heard bad things about PowerColor, but what about Asus & XFX?