[irregularities] Mass Network

[aioc]

Hello.

This one:  http://www.ourdata.us/
is also a competitor to mass.network  I think.

I don't think mass is a serious project.

I think this one os far more better than Mass network I have joined here,you need not invest here and you will get 10,000 shares for getting earlier right now that price of that share is $100 and will grow if you refer people,I think Mass is planning it while ourdata already have it running.

[droph]

Mass coin has ran a campaign which does not pay for its users or make any update about the payout. It has been nearly one week since the ICO ended. I think MASS is not reliable. It is just another scam project. I will remove this statement only when there is update about the campaign
best regards

This man has cheated me, I have sold my account named ghostON to Kabul=HarleyQuinn9876 but he did not pay.


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1719927.msg17221430#msg17221430

[robelneo]

Mass coin has ran a campaign which does not pay for its users or make any update about the payout. It has been nearly one week since the ICO ended. I think MASS is not reliable. It is just another scam project. I will remove this statement only when there is update about the campaign
best regards

This man has cheated me, I have sold my account named ghostON to Kabul=HarleyQuinn9876 but he did not pay.


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1719927.msg17221430#msg17221430

That's unfortunate,keep watching his thread I'm sure he will try to apply in a signature campaign or airdrop that needs a full member,but in the first place you should not involve your self in account selling if you need money,you can always ask for a loan,but of course you must have a collateral for that

[Alohaboy?!]

Hello.

This one:  http://www.ourdata.us/
is also a competitor to mass.network  I think.

I don't think mass is a serious project.

I think this one os far more better than Mass network I have joined here,you need not invest here and you will get 10,000 shares for getting earlier right now that price of that share is $100 and will grow if you refer people,I think Mass is planning it while ourdata already have it running.

I don´t really trust this site ... and its not really a company share you receive.

[robelneo]

Hello.

This one:  http://www.ourdata.us/
is also a competitor to mass.network  I think.

I don't think mass is a serious project.

I think this one os far more better than Mass network I have joined here,you need not invest here and you will get 10,000 shares for getting earlier right now that price of that share is $100 and will grow if you refer people,I think Mass is planning it while ourdata already have it running.

I don´t really trust this site ... and its not really a company share you receive.

I checked the site and sign up also watch the video,I have installed the chrome extension,so far it works great in my end,this is a start up company but a promising one I don't know why are you not trusting it,of course the site is new but you are getting a company shares I have 10,000 shares .

[Alohaboy?!]

Hello.

This one:  http://www.ourdata.us/
is also a competitor to mass.network  I think.

I don't think mass is a serious project.

I think this one os far more better than Mass network I have joined here,you need not invest here and you will get 10,000 shares for getting earlier right now that price of that share is $100 and will grow if you refer people,I think Mass is planning it while ourdata already have it running.

I don´t really trust this site ... and its not really a company share you receive.

I checked the site and sign up also watch the video,I have installed the chrome extension,so far it works great in my end,this is a start up company but a promising one I don't know why are you not trusting it,of course the site is new but you are getting a company shares I have 10,000 shares .

This is from their page:

What is the deal with the shares?
These shares are not like common equity shares in a company.

These shares represent your portion of the value that will go to you. Ourdata’s goal is to capture and distribute our portion of the profits that advertisers and data companies are making from your data. You earn shares just for downloading the app and signing up. You earn even more shares every time you get someone else to sign up using your referral code. Got a lot of friends?  When you get five people to sign up, all your bonus shares get doubled.


The shares do not really seem to be worthy
The only thing I see is making the founder richer

[smyslov]

The only thing I see is making the founder richer

Of course they are the founder,they spent a lot to keep it going,but 10,000 free shares is not bad at all we are using ad blocker for free why not use something that will pay us,the concept looks good it looks like Massnetwork has a good competitor a much better one.

[HomoHenning]

Hello.

This one:  http://www.ourdata.us/
is also a competitor to mass.network  I think.

I don't think mass is a serious project.

I think this one os far more better than Mass network I have joined here,you need not invest here and you will get 10,000 shares for getting earlier right now that price of that share is $100 and will grow if you refer people,I think Mass is planning it while ourdata already have it running.

I don´t really trust this site ... and its not really a company share you receive.

I checked the site and sign up also watch the video,I have installed the chrome extension,so far it works great in my end,this is a start up company but a promising one I don't know why are you not trusting it,of course the site is new but you are getting a company shares I have 10,000 shares .

This is from their page:

What is the deal with the shares?
These shares are not like common equity shares in a company.

These shares represent your portion of the value that will go to you. Ourdata’s goal is to capture and distribute our portion of the profits that advertisers and data companies are making from your data. You earn shares just for downloading the app and signing up. You earn even more shares every time you get someone else to sign up using your referral code. Got a lot of friends?  When you get five people to sign up, all your bonus shares get doubled.


The shares do not really seem to be worthy
The only thing I see is making the founder richer

the question is is there a market for these shares? can i sell them for 100$. NO
Therefore this value is just pure air and a scam

mass is better and you can trade the mass coins soon

[_ChucK_]

the question is is there a market for these shares? can i sell them for 100$. NO
Therefore this value is just pure air and a scam

mass is better and you can trade the mass coins soon

Where did you get the information about soon trade? Please more detail about the timing and platforms name?
'cause developers are silent.

[drays]

The only thing I see is making the founder richer

Of course they are the founder,they spent a lot to keep it going,but 10,000 free shares is not bad at all we are using ad blocker for free why not use something that will pay us,the concept looks good it looks like Massnetwork has a good competitor a much better one.

10,000 free shares? Do you think if the number of shares is big, the value will be big too?
How many shares this company has in total? I guess those 10,000 shares will cost $1, especially taking into account how easy is to get those shares.

In any case this project looks similar to MASS Network, and they look to be on the same stage of development as MASS is. The one who has better connections and knowledge in AD business, will win.

[HomoHenning]

the question is is there a market for these shares? can i sell them for 100$. NO
Therefore this value is just pure air and a scam

mass is better and you can trade the mass coins soon

Where did you get the information about soon trade? Please more detail about the timing and platforms name?
'cause developers are silent.

from the Telegram group...

[DaddyH]

Hello.

This one:  http://www.ourdata.us/
is also a competitor to mass.network  I think.

I don't think mass is a serious project.

the troll again.
I am now very sure that you are not invested in this project. I guess somebody paid you for telling bad things about it.

This project his one of the serious ones out there now in this kind of stage. very professional mycelium team is working on it.

Maybe TO YOU someone paying for the flattering comments?
Around the ICO already so much dirt that your statements about "professional team" are simply absurd.

Homo is behaving like a paid shill. I have tokens and wouldn't care less if I wasn't being tricked out of my btc.

Homo I'll ask again. Why did you say you wanted out only a few weeks ago, to now being the biggest fan?

[DaddyH]

the question is is there a market for these shares? can i sell them for 100$. NO
Therefore this value is just pure air and a scam

mass is better and you can trade the mass coins soon

Where did you get the information about soon trade? Please more detail about the timing and platforms name?
'cause developers are silent.

from the Telegram group...

Post the link to this group or stop pretending it exists.

[gbdesai]

the question is is there a market for these shares? can i sell them for 100$. NO
Therefore this value is just pure air and a scam

mass is better and you can trade the mass coins soon

Where did you get the information about soon trade? Please more detail about the timing and platforms name?
'cause developers are silent.

from the Telegram group...

Post the link to this group or stop pretending it exists.

It exists, think they have a link on mass.network or even on ico-list.com.  Here is a relevant post.

[DaddyH]

the question is is there a market for these shares? can i sell them for 100$. NO
Therefore this value is just pure air and a scam

mass is better and you can trade the mass coins soon

Where did you get the information about soon trade? Please more detail about the timing and platforms name?
'cause developers are silent.

from the Telegram group...

Post the link to this group or stop pretending it exists.

It exists, think they have a link on mass.network or even on ico-list.com.  Here is a relevant post.

That picture above is likely fake. The only telegram links (on mass website or ici-list) are to the channel below a generic mass channel which hasn't updated since October.

I challenge anyone to prove me wrong and provide the link to "mass dev group". Below is the screenshot of the out of date telegram channel and only published telegram link;

[tokyopotato]

DaddyH --


It's not fake. You can access it here: http://telegram.me/massdev


Just want you to know I agree 100% though with everything you are saying.  

I am so disappointed by Alex Pankov (pianist), Alexander Kuzmin, and others in this project who purposely misled this entire community, took our money, and walked away. It has really lowered my opinion of Mycelium and the entire cryptocurrency token industry, and all of the websites that promoted this project like ForkLog.Net, Bitcoin.Com, CoreMedia, Waves platform, and other Russian cryptocurrency projects involving anyone related to these guys. They just disappeared and now they say "Oh we don't have anything to do with this project, we don't know anything about it anymore, go talk to someone else"

They should return the money but this was our mistake to trust them in the first place.  God bless them for when you steal from people so obviously, there is a saying, "You shall reap what you sow."


*edit* If there is anyone still working on Mass Network --- you should really make an effort to communicate with the community.  Twitter, Facebook, Bitcointalk, the Mass Network blog.  Just give updates somewhere.  At least tell us you robbed us to our face rather than hide.

[Colba2016]

Well, it would be nice to have some kind of update.

I think it is premature to claim "robbery" but if any of you have any info to share, please PM me. It might be time for the ICO participants to organize.

[JReag]

DaddyH --


It's not fake. You can access it here: http://telegram.me/massdev


Just want you to know I agree 100% though with everything you are saying.  

I am so disappointed by Alex Pankov (pianist), Alexander Kuzmin, and others in this project who purposely misled this entire community, took our money, and walked away. It has really lowered my opinion of Mycelium and the entire cryptocurrency token industry, and all of the websites that promoted this project like ForkLog.Net, Bitcoin.Com, CoreMedia, Waves platform, and other Russian cryptocurrency projects involving anyone related to these guys. They just disappeared and now they say "Oh we don't have anything to do with this project, we don't know anything about it anymore, go talk to someone else"

They should return the money but this was our mistake to trust them in the first place.  God bless them for when you steal from people so obviously, there is a saying, "You shall reap what you sow."


*edit* If there is anyone still working on Mass Network --- you should really make an effort to communicate with the community.  Twitter, Facebook, Bitcointalk, the Mass Network blog.  Just give updates somewhere.  At least tell us you robbed us to our face rather than hide.

I decided to do my own research into what was going on for this project, and it doesn't appear the case is that they've abandoned the project.

It appears instead that they were expecting to get waaaay more funding than they actually did, but ended up so short that a lot of the staff ended up leaving. (Just in the few linked.in profiles I inspected.)

There are some connections that appear legit. Example

Alexander Kuzmin is a former Russian Mayor.  http://ura.ru/articles/1036255857

And the individual quoted from the mass group, Daniel Novichkov has ties to working in the Russian government as well...
https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielnovichkov

These people fall into place as individuals who would likely know one another.

Their former director of marketing quit last month as can be seen here:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-malley-1875484a?authType=name&authToken=I7P7&trk=prof-sb-browse_map-photo

However Sam Cheng Hung doesn't appear to have quit working with Mass, or simply hasn't updated his Linked.in
https://www.linkedin.com/in/samchenghung

It appears their marketing fell through and they're actually in scramble mode to try and get things situated. They delivered Mass Coin on time, so at least there's that.

Comms need to be improved but I do see signs as to why they might be lacking atm. Especially if they're working to get their new project onto exchanges. However, the lax communication policy likely doesn't help brew much confidence for their investors.


Anyways, I hope this helps answer some questions for concerned investors.

[Crypto Girl]

Well, it would be nice to have some kind of update.

I think it is premature to claim "robbery" but if any of you have any info to share, please PM me. It might be time for the ICO participants to organize.

need some credible evidence before it will be called a SCAM.

[Colba2016]

DaddyH --


It's not fake. You can access it here: http://telegram.me/massdev


Just want you to know I agree 100% though with everything you are saying.  

I am so disappointed by Alex Pankov (pianist), Alexander Kuzmin, and others in this project who purposely misled this entire community, took our money, and walked away. It has really lowered my opinion of Mycelium and the entire cryptocurrency token industry, and all of the websites that promoted this project like ForkLog.Net, Bitcoin.Com, CoreMedia, Waves platform, and other Russian cryptocurrency projects involving anyone related to these guys. They just disappeared and now they say "Oh we don't have anything to do with this project, we don't know anything about it anymore, go talk to someone else"

They should return the money but this was our mistake to trust them in the first place.  God bless them for when you steal from people so obviously, there is a saying, "You shall reap what you sow."


*edit* If there is anyone still working on Mass Network --- you should really make an effort to communicate with the community.  Twitter, Facebook, Bitcointalk, the Mass Network blog.  Just give updates somewhere.  At least tell us you robbed us to our face rather than hide.

I decided to do my own research into what was going on for this project, and it doesn't appear the case is that they've abandoned the project.

It appears instead that they were expecting to get waaaay more funding than they actually did, but ended up so short that a lot of the staff ended up leaving. (Just in the few linked.in profiles I inspected.)

There are some connections that appear legit. Example

Alexander Kuzmin is a former Russian Mayor.  http://ura.ru/articles/1036255857

And the individual quoted from the mass group, Daniel Novichkov has ties to working in the Russian government as well...
https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielnovichkov

These people fall into place as individuals who would likely know one another.

Their former director of marketing quit last month as can be seen here:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-malley-1875484a?authType=name&authToken=I7P7&trk=prof-sb-browse_map-photo

However Sam Cheng Hung doesn't appear to have quit working with Mass, or simply hasn't updated his Linked.in
https://www.linkedin.com/in/samchenghung

It appears their marketing fell through and they're actually in scramble mode to try and get things situated. They delivered Mass Coin on time, so at least there's that.

Comms need to be improved but I do see signs as to why they might be lacking atm. Especially if they're working to get their new project onto exchanges. However, the lax communication policy likely doesn't help brew much confidence for their investors.


Anyways, I hope this helps answer some questions for concerned investors.

Thank you. That's what I figured: internal turmoil.

Alexander Kuzmin was listed as an escrow holder and then the new CEO, so the buck stops there as far as I'm concerned. If the project can't move forward, a refund should be given for the full amount to each ICO participant. If things are reorganized and can move forward, all is fine. We just need an update soon.

Let's see how this develops.