[irregularities] Mass Network

[Know-ledger]

The swishcoin project has an almost identical setup as mass.

Their new "project":

http://www.knowledger.consulting/

We need to create a scam thread on scam sections about Mass Token,It's been a long time we should not let this people get away just like this,no wonder there were no updates,their thread and roadmap are good that you will have second thought plus their mass plugin was set up,this is a well planned scam ..

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1799232.msg17930452#msg17930452

Hi

This is to confirm that neither Mass, nor Alexander Kuzmin personally (Mass owner and CEO) are affiliated in any way to Knowledger. I just once was Mass' contractor writing the white/blue papers for them.
I do not think Mass has stopped development but I can't confirm that having the same contacts everybody else does—through the support box.

[robelneo]

There's already a scam thread about Mass Token there,why not take the conversation and important information about Mass Token,this could all be deleted because this is a moderated thread,this is one of the reason why we should be doubtful on moderated announcement.

[Cent21]

There's already a scam thread about Mass Token there,why not take the conversation and important information about Mass Token,this could all be deleted because this is a moderated thread,this is one of the reason why we should be doubtful on moderated announcement.

You are right, it's better to move conversation there.

I have a few tens of millions masscoin in colu, and they are useless... and i'm very disappointed.

[bitcoin42r4]

The Emperor's New Clothes。

it will be at tailor shop and it can be come in front for wearing too...hahahhahahahahahahah

[pianist]

it is a moderated thread,dev can come back here and delete all not so kind comments..

This thread was started by me, so there won't be deleted anything.

You may feel free to talk in this thread.

[robelneo]

it is a moderated thread,dev can come back here and delete all not so kind comments..

This thread was started by me, so there won't be deleted anything.

You may feel free to talk in this thread.

Yes that's good to know,so we can have both the scam accusations and this thread but please change the title people will think this  is an on going project,change it to something about getting or recovering investors funds

[DaddyH]

I just heard about this thanks to a Chinese wechat user who added me to ask what was going on after seeing my LinkedIn profile thanks to the slanderous post, implicating me as a "professional scammer", from tokyopotato. His wanton accusation of me are as incorrect as they are inflammatory. It is obvious from his post who he really meant to target.

Now for my relationship with mass.

I stopped working for Alexander Kuzmin and Mycelium in November of 2016 and have had zero communication since then.

I was Product Manager of another Mycelium team. I later quit Mycelium because our offices were moved to Moscow...I was asked to relocate, said no thanks, and quit.  

In August or Sept of 2016, Kuzmin asked me to help edit the website for MASS since I was the only native ENG speaker at his disposal at the time. I did that and only that. At no point was equity or profit sharing EVER discussed with me. I acted under orders from my boss at the time to edit some copy for the site and blog and setup some social media accounts. that is all. He asked to put my pic and name on the website and said I should have a title since I was technically "part of the team"... Seemed like free publicity for me, why not? That was my only mistake in this issue. For that I am sorry.

I do not stand to gain anything from the MASS ICO and never did...
I am not a scammer, never have been and never will be.

I have made MANY MANY requests to have my name removed from the site... to no avail. Kuzmin has ignored my requests.

Since I found out about this issue, which I have not paid attention to since leaving, I have since deleted MASS from my LinkedIn, since you all seem to think it is a scam and I do not want to be associated with it if it is. It was never a full-time job for me and I was never even paid to work on it!

But let me be clear: I do not stand to profit IN ANY WAY FROM MASS or its ICO... Please contact Mr. Kuzmin

I have ZERO relations with Mycelium or Mr. Kuzmin or MASS since November 2016. However, their "pm,community manager, accountant" contacted me in Jan of this year. Maybe he can answer your questions.


Never heard from him again.


I am sorry for anyone who feels they have been harmed but I am not able to help you. I wish that I could. All I did was edit and write some copy for the website and various social media.

I hope this helps clear up my relationship with Kuzmin and Mass. I hope tokyopotato can remove the slanderous post about me and my current employer, thank you.

Firstly - thanks for your candid honesty. The picture is now becoming much clearer. However you cannot call anyone here a troll, they are all victims. Unfortunately for you - you were involved with the project at some stage AND your LinkedIn profiles states you managed the ICO funds. The same ICO funds which have since disappeared. So you can't blame folks from putting 2 and 2 together. Even though in this case you were not responsible for any of the subsequent issues.

Thanks again.

[tokyopotato]

Hello Michael,

I am not interested in further accusations against you, nor attacking your character, nor taking you down, nor holding you responsible - as that is counterproductive to finding any resolution. Unfortunately, it did appear that you were involved with copy and content creation for Mass Network and MassCoin ICO, as well as took credit for raising the funds, and I did bring attention to this and apologize for calling you a "professional scammer" and retract this statement. That fact that you came here to address the accusations, shows that you are a person of integrity.

A handful of participants including yourself, are now being "hung out to dry" by Alexander Kuzmin, and Alexey Oschepkov -- who have now moved onto new scams.  It has come to light that much of the communications regarding people's involvement in the Mass Network were outright lies and misinformation, which can be seen from the PR that was published at Bitcoin.com

https://news.bitcoin.com/mass-network-bitcoin-advertising/

Archived Link: http://archive.is/t2S1u

In this article, the Mass Network was referred to as a "Bitcoin Super Team" ... "composed of leading innovators from businesses such as Colu, Mycelium, Evernote, BitFury Capital, Deutsche Bank and IBM."

It is unfortunate that you were brought into the fold of this scam, along with Bitcoin.com

I believe this situation is sobering for yourself, and for everyone here.  Meanwhile, those ultimately responsible are now gone with the rest of the funds. Thank you for addressing the accusations, and providing more facts, as the community works to bring accountability to Alexander Kuzmin and Alexey Oschepkov (Kontegna). I will only let the facts speak for themselves at this point, as they come to the surface.

These sorts of ICO PR shenanigans cannot continue to go on at Bitcoin.com or within the Bitcoin space without accountability, and ultimately, that's all people want here -- accountability.

[Know-ledger]

Hello Michael,

I am not interested in further accusations against you, nor attacking your character, nor taking you down, nor holding you responsible - as that is counterproductive to finding any resolution. Unfortunately, it did appear that you were involved with copy and content creation for Mass Network and MassCoin ICO, as well as took credit for raising the funds, and I did bring attention to this and apologize for calling you a "professional scammer" and retract this statement. That fact that you came here to address the accusations, shows that you are a person of integrity.

A handful of participants including yourself, are now being "hung out to dry" by Alexander Kuzmin, and Alexey Oschepkov -- who have now moved onto new scams.  It has come to light that much of the communications regarding people's involvement in the Mass Network were outright lies and misinformation, which can be seen from the PR that was published at Bitcoin.com

https://news.bitcoin.com/mass-network-bitcoin-advertising/

Archived Link: http://archive.is/t2S1u

In this article, the Mass Network was referred to as a "Bitcoin Super Team" ... "composed of leading innovators from businesses such as Colu, Mycelium, Evernote, BitFury Capital, Deutsche Bank and IBM."

It is unfortunate that you were brought into the fold of this scam, along with Bitcoin.com

I believe this situation is sobering for yourself, and for everyone here.  Meanwhile, those ultimately responsible are now gone with the rest of the funds. Thank you for addressing the accusations, and providing more facts, as the community works to bring accountability to Alexander Kuzmin and Alexey Oschepkov (Kontegna). I will only let the facts speak for themselves at this point, as they come to the surface.

These sorts of ICO PR shenanigans cannot continue to go on at Bitcoin.com or within the Bitcoin space without accountability, and ultimately, that's all people want here -- accountability.

copying from the original new thread and my post there  DO NOT POST SESC LINKS


Hi, Mass Investors!


Here's my experience that I feel I need to contribute to the community since this doubt has arisen.

0) Neither me personally, nor my company (www.knowledger.consulting) have any affiliation with Mass Network or any of its founders/employees. I was just a contractor to Mass writing the white & blue papers and advising on general matters. Neither me, nor my company has ever received or managed in any way any funds directly from the crowdsale discussed.

1) I was first engaged in the project in early August of 2016 when I met Alexander Pankov (nick “pianist”) in Riga, Latvia, EU, in person. I assume, I was quite an obvious guy to get invited since I combine the knowledge of blockchain tech and ad-blocking as you can see in my blog (https://medium.com/@Knowledger).

2) Alexander Pankov has made an impression of having some deep knowledge of the subject, although I was unpleasantly amazed by him humiliating his wife more than twice publicly during an hour-long meeting. I should have probably withdrawn myself from there right away which I didn't, unfortunately.

3) Alexander Pankov initiated the crowdsale of Mass Network tokens by starting the ANN thread on Bitcointalk. I spent about 40 days communicating with Mass Network representatives while ~90% of messaging happened directly with Alexander Pankov / pianist.

4) I created the white and blue papers of the projects with Michael Malley being my proof-reader and Sam Cheng Hung being the webmaster. Those were the only contacts I had within Mass, besides Alexander Pankov (a lot) and Alexander Kuzmin, occasionally, on general topics. By that time, I assumed that Alexander Pankov has hired all the dev team members by himself.

5) Along the way, Alexander Pankov began to fill my inbox with tons of messages that were self-contradictory, controversial, and not making sense at all. I expressed doubt he could manage his way, in polite terms.

6) In mid-September 2016 I was kicked off the project by Alexander Pankov with the extremely rude wording "I don't need you in the project, being impertinent to me is your life-lesson". I can prove that to any entity and will insist that in any court should that take place.

7) Later, along the project development, Alexander Kuzmin accurately calculated my participation and let me off, fulfilling all obligations to me, after his purchase of the entire thing, with no objections from my side whatsoever. I also had relations with him in the Mycelium Card project (https://card.mycelium.com) years before, where he also behave himself as a gentleman. I have no grounds to suspect him in any wrongdoings. He was indeed an escrow of the funds, according to his own words. I have zero knowledge on how funds received during the crowdsale were used, though.

I have to mention that Alexander Kuzmin has received a number of suggestions from me that he has ignored. Specifically I have advised him to withdraw from specific partnerships that he has announced on the Mass Network website. Him not doing so does not lead me to the assumption he meant any harm to Mass Network investors, rather I suppose I have limited knowledge of the matter.

Cool Alexander Pankov has "left the project" in December 2016, according to his own words. That happened RIGHT AFTER all the crowdfunding money were collected. We only have his word for that event, as a matter of fact.

9) In February 2017, Alexander Pankov (nicknamed "pianist") names me as a project "founder" while he well knows I am not and was not. That’s a blatant lie. It seems he is trying to blame me.

10) I have no grounds to suspect the project has let its investors down and stopped development. I don’t know why they have let this escalate or generate such a suspicious feeling in the community, I just felt I need to honestly express my view and what I know for sure.
______





Regards,

Alex
Knowledger.consulting

[tokyopotato]

The facts point to this scam being propagated with full knowledge by the Mycelium team, even though many have tried to distance themselves.  It is very unfortunate. In fact, it seems that Alex Kontegna as serial ICO involvement*, and that he is involved in http://knowledger.consulting (*edited)

https://medium.com/@Knowledger/how-to-spot-a-great-ico-and-leave-a-bad-one-alone-4665581e6a6d#.yg8a6bxjl

http://archive.is/5DxgW

https://www.reddit.com/user/Alex_Kontegna

https://www.reddit.com/user/mikeMassNetwork

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/50he2a/bitcoin_superteam_creates_mass_a_blockchainbased/

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/50ar6s/bitcoin_superteam_creates_mass_blockchainbased/

[tokyopotato]

Hello Michael,

I am not interested in further accusations against you, nor attacking your character, nor taking you down, nor holding you responsible - as that is counterproductive to finding any resolution. Unfortunately, it did appear that you were involved with copy and content creation for Mass Network and MassCoin ICO, as well as took credit for raising the funds, and I did bring attention to this and apologize for calling you a "professional scammer" and retract this statement. That fact that you came here to address the accusations, shows that you are a person of integrity.

A handful of participants including yourself, are now being "hung out to dry" by Alexander Kuzmin, and Alexey Oschepkov -- who have now moved onto new scams.  It has come to light that much of the communications regarding people's involvement in the Mass Network were outright lies and misinformation, which can be seen from the PR that was published at Bitcoin.com

https://news.bitcoin.com/mass-network-bitcoin-advertising/

Archived Link: http://archive.is/t2S1u

In this article, the Mass Network was referred to as a "Bitcoin Super Team" ... "composed of leading innovators from businesses such as Colu, Mycelium, Evernote, BitFury Capital, Deutsche Bank and IBM."

It is unfortunate that you were brought into the fold of this scam, along with Bitcoin.com

I believe this situation is sobering for yourself, and for everyone here.  Meanwhile, those ultimately responsible are now gone with the rest of the funds. Thank you for addressing the accusations, and providing more facts, as the community works to bring accountability to Alexander Kuzmin and Alexey Oschepkov (Kontegna). I will only let the facts speak for themselves at this point, as they come to the surface.

These sorts of ICO PR shenanigans cannot continue to go on at Bitcoin.com or within the Bitcoin space without accountability, and ultimately, that's all people want here -- accountability.

copying from the original new thread and my post there  DO NOT POST SESC LINKS


Hi, Mass Investors!


Here's my experience that I feel I need to contribute to the community since this doubt has arisen.

0) Neither me personally, nor my company (www.knowledger.consulting) have any affiliation with Mass Network or any of its founders/employees. I was just a contractor to Mass writing the white & blue papers and advising on general matters. Neither me, nor my company has ever received or managed in any way any funds directly from the crowdsale discussed.

1) I was first engaged in the project in early August of 2016 when I met Alexander Pankov (nick “pianist”) in Riga, Latvia, EU, in person. I assume, I was quite an obvious guy to get invited since I combine the knowledge of blockchain tech and ad-blocking as you can see in my blog (https://medium.com/@Knowledger).

2) Alexander Pankov has made an impression of having some deep knowledge of the subject, although I was unpleasantly amazed by him humiliating his wife more than twice publicly during an hour-long meeting. I should have probably withdrawn myself from there right away which I didn't, unfortunately.

3) Alexander Pankov initiated the crowdsale of Mass Network tokens by starting the ANN thread on Bitcointalk. I spent about 40 days communicating with Mass Network representatives while ~90% of messaging happened directly with Alexander Pankov / pianist.

4) I created the white and blue papers of the projects with Michael Malley being my proof-reader and Sam Cheng Hung being the webmaster. Those were the only contacts I had within Mass, besides Alexander Pankov (a lot) and Alexander Kuzmin, occasionally, on general topics. By that time, I assumed that Alexander Pankov has hired all the dev team members by himself.

5) Along the way, Alexander Pankov began to fill my inbox with tons of messages that were self-contradictory, controversial, and not making sense at all. I expressed doubt he could manage his way, in polite terms.

6) In mid-September 2016 I was kicked off the project by Alexander Pankov with the extremely rude wording "I don't need you in the project, being impertinent to me is your life-lesson". I can prove that to any entity and will insist that in any court should that take place.

7) Later, along the project development, Alexander Kuzmin accurately calculated my participation and let me off, fulfilling all obligations to me, after his purchase of the entire thing, with no objections from my side whatsoever. I also had relations with him in the Mycelium Card project (https://card.mycelium.com) years before, where he also behave himself as a gentleman. I have no grounds to suspect him in any wrongdoings. He was indeed an escrow of the funds, according to his own words. I have zero knowledge on how funds received during the crowdsale were used, though.

I have to mention that Alexander Kuzmin has received a number of suggestions from me that he has ignored. Specifically I have advised him to withdraw from specific partnerships that he has announced on the Mass Network website. Him not doing so does not lead me to the assumption he meant any harm to Mass Network investors, rather I suppose I have limited knowledge of the matter.

Cool Alexander Pankov has "left the project" in December 2016, according to his own words. That happened RIGHT AFTER all the crowdfunding money were collected. We only have his word for that event, as a matter of fact.

9) In February 2017, Alexander Pankov (nicknamed "pianist") names me as a project "founder" while he well knows I am not and was not. That’s a blatant lie. It seems he is trying to blame me.

10) I have no grounds to suspect the project has let its investors down and stopped development. I don’t know why they have let this escalate or generate such a suspicious feeling in the community, I just felt I need to honestly express my view and what I know for sure.
______





Regards,

Alex
Knowledger.consulting

Just as I expected.  Everyone here was involved, but nobody can take responsibility.  And it seems that Alexander Kuzmin is the one who has "disappeared without a trace". 

Thanks for speaking out your version of the facts. 

This is a horrible shit-stain on Mycelium.

[bspus]

I just noticed this, from over a month ago

https://blog.mass.network/

Latest news is the mass browser released. Apparently by that they mean a chrome plugin.
Does it actually do anything?

[memalley]

Hello Michael,

I am not interested in further accusations against you, nor attacking your character, nor taking you down, nor holding you responsible - as that is counterproductive to finding any resolution. Unfortunately, it did appear that you were involved with copy and content creation for Mass Network and MassCoin ICO, as well as took credit for raising the funds, and I did bring attention to this and apologize for calling you a "professional scammer" and retract this statement. That fact that you came here to address the accusations, shows that you are a person of integrity.

A handful of participants including yourself, are now being "hung out to dry" by Alexander Kuzmin, and Alexey Oschepkov -- who have now moved onto new scams.  It has come to light that much of the communications regarding people's involvement in the Mass Network were outright lies and misinformation, which can be seen from the PR that was published at Bitcoin.com

https://news.bitcoin.com/mass-network-bitcoin-advertising/

Archived Link: http://archive.is/t2S1u

In this article, the Mass Network was referred to as a "Bitcoin Super Team" ... "composed of leading innovators from businesses such as Colu, Mycelium, Evernote, BitFury Capital, Deutsche Bank and IBM."

It is unfortunate that you were brought into the fold of this scam, along with Bitcoin.com

I believe this situation is sobering for yourself, and for everyone here.  Meanwhile, those ultimately responsible are now gone with the rest of the funds. Thank you for addressing the accusations, and providing more facts, as the community works to bring accountability to Alexander Kuzmin and Alexey Oschepkov (Kontegna). I will only let the facts speak for themselves at this point, as they come to the surface.

These sorts of ICO PR shenanigans cannot continue to go on at Bitcoin.com or within the Bitcoin space without accountability, and ultimately, that's all people want here -- accountability.

copying from the original new thread and my post there  DO NOT POST SESC LINKS


Hi, Mass Investors!


Here's my experience that I feel I need to contribute to the community since this doubt has arisen.

0) Neither me personally, nor my company (www.knowledger.consulting) have any affiliation with Mass Network or any of its founders/employees. I was just a contractor to Mass writing the white & blue papers and advising on general matters. Neither me, nor my company has ever received or managed in any way any funds directly from the crowdsale discussed.

1) I was first engaged in the project in early August of 2016 when I met Alexander Pankov (nick “pianist”) in Riga, Latvia, EU, in person. I assume, I was quite an obvious guy to get invited since I combine the knowledge of blockchain tech and ad-blocking as you can see in my blog (https://medium.com/@Knowledger).

2) Alexander Pankov has made an impression of having some deep knowledge of the subject, although I was unpleasantly amazed by him humiliating his wife more than twice publicly during an hour-long meeting. I should have probably withdrawn myself from there right away which I didn't, unfortunately.

3) Alexander Pankov initiated the crowdsale of Mass Network tokens by starting the ANN thread on Bitcointalk. I spent about 40 days communicating with Mass Network representatives while ~90% of messaging happened directly with Alexander Pankov / pianist.

4) I created the white and blue papers of the projects with Michael Malley being my proof-reader and Sam Cheng Hung being the webmaster. Those were the only contacts I had within Mass, besides Alexander Pankov (a lot) and Alexander Kuzmin, occasionally, on general topics. By that time, I assumed that Alexander Pankov has hired all the dev team members by himself.

5) Along the way, Alexander Pankov began to fill my inbox with tons of messages that were self-contradictory, controversial, and not making sense at all. I expressed doubt he could manage his way, in polite terms.

6) In mid-September 2016 I was kicked off the project by Alexander Pankov with the extremely rude wording "I don't need you in the project, being impertinent to me is your life-lesson". I can prove that to any entity and will insist that in any court should that take place.

7) Later, along the project development, Alexander Kuzmin accurately calculated my participation and let me off, fulfilling all obligations to me, after his purchase of the entire thing, with no objections from my side whatsoever. I also had relations with him in the Mycelium Card project (https://card.mycelium.com) years before, where he also behave himself as a gentleman. I have no grounds to suspect him in any wrongdoings. He was indeed an escrow of the funds, according to his own words. I have zero knowledge on how funds received during the crowdsale were used, though.

I have to mention that Alexander Kuzmin has received a number of suggestions from me that he has ignored. Specifically I have advised him to withdraw from specific partnerships that he has announced on the Mass Network website. Him not doing so does not lead me to the assumption he meant any harm to Mass Network investors, rather I suppose I have limited knowledge of the matter.

Cool Alexander Pankov has "left the project" in December 2016, according to his own words. That happened RIGHT AFTER all the crowdfunding money were collected. We only have his word for that event, as a matter of fact.

9) In February 2017, Alexander Pankov (nicknamed "pianist") names me as a project "founder" while he well knows I am not and was not. That’s a blatant lie. It seems he is trying to blame me.

10) I have no grounds to suspect the project has let its investors down and stopped development. I don’t know why they have let this escalate or generate such a suspicious feeling in the community, I just felt I need to honestly express my view and what I know for sure.
______





Regards,

Alex
Knowledger.consulting

Just as I expected.  Everyone here was involved, but nobody can take responsibility.  And it seems that Alexander Kuzmin is the one who has "disappeared without a trace". 

Thanks for speaking out your version of the facts. 

This is a horrible shit-stain on Mycelium.

tokyopotato,
Thanks for retracting your statement about me as a scammer. Now, I must comment on 1) Mr. Alexey Oschepkov and his involvement as well as 2) bitcoin.com's involvement (which was nothing other than to publish a press release).  

1) I have never met Oschepkov in person but we worked together on various publications, including the whitepaper. He, as main author, and myself as copy-editor (he wrote it and i edited for grammar, clarity as I am a native ENG speaker and understand that basic concepts involved).

Alexey's account of the events above is in accord with what I know of the situation. I do not see any reason why he would be involved in a "scam" if this is indeed what is transpiring. He was definitely let go and I was told it was because he and the Alexander's "didnt have the same vision for the project".

And if he was a scammer, why the hell would he be in here defending himself? Wouldn't he be avoiding this entirely like some of the others implicated? I see no reason to go after the only people who are in here trying to help you all.

Please consider the facts as well as the transparency with which he and I have communicated with this thread. I do not know about him but I am taking time out of my work schedule to address any questions and help in any way I can. It pains me to see (from what I know) a decent person like Mr. Oschepkov, implicated without much evidence other than having written the white paper. He's a smart guy and about as hardcore of a bitcoin/blockchainer as I have ever met. Ask yourself why a "scammer" with his name on Mass documents would then put his name on Knowledger as if no one would notice. It doesn't make any sense.

2) bitcoin.com posted the press release of Mass... Guess what? So did coindesk and others.. are they to be dragged through the mud too here?

It seems very clear that Mr. Kuzmin and any others currently involved in Mass are the people who need to be contacted.

[memalley]

The facts point to this scam being propagated with full knowledge by the Mycelium team, even though many have tried to distance themselves.  It is very unfortunate. In fact, it seems that Alex Kontegna as serial ICO involvement*, and that he is involved in http://knowledger.consulting (*edited)

https://medium.com/@Knowledger/how-to-spot-a-great-ico-and-leave-a-bad-one-alone-4665581e6a6d#.yg8a6bxjl

http://archive.is/5DxgW

https://www.reddit.com/user/Alex_Kontegna

https://www.reddit.com/user/mikeMassNetwork

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/50he2a/bitcoin_superteam_creates_mass_a_blockchainbased/

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/50ar6s/bitcoin_superteam_creates_mass_blockchainbased/

https://i.imgur.com/RnBPBLh.png

OMG! More slander, man... yes, that was me, Mike. Have you ever worked at a company? Generally, The CTO and CEO run the show. This was the case as far as I know at Mass. They ask people like me to do marketing stuff which means just send some press releases to outlets. I was never involved in collecting money and neither was the "scam originator", Mr. Oschepkov. From what I know he was fired!!! Probably for asking too many questions about how it would actually work!... come on, man. Please have some decency. I understand you are upset, I would be too. Focus you efforts on tracking down the real people involved though instead of accusing the people trying to help you.

Thanks, Mike

[Tribute]

The facts point to this scam being propagated with full knowledge by the Mycelium team, even though many have tried to distance themselves.  It is very unfortunate. In fact, it seems that Alex Kontegna as serial ICO involvement*, and that he is involved in http://knowledger.consulting (*edited)

https://medium.com/@Knowledger/how-to-spot-a-great-ico-and-leave-a-bad-one-alone-4665581e6a6d#.yg8a6bxjl

http://archive.is/5DxgW

https://www.reddit.com/user/Alex_Kontegna

https://www.reddit.com/user/mikeMassNetwork

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/50he2a/bitcoin_superteam_creates_mass_a_blockchainbased/

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/50ar6s/bitcoin_superteam_creates_mass_blockchainbased/

https://i.imgur.com/RnBPBLh.png

Wow the plot thickens. Rassah is a Mycelium Dev working on the wallet products who claims to know nothing about Mass.Network. That screenshot shows otherwise, it seems some folks have short memories.

This indicates a deliberate and deep running collusion Mycelium managed operation to  scam.

[Tribute]

Hello Michael,

I am not interested in further accusations against you, nor attacking your character, nor taking you down, nor holding you responsible - as that is counterproductive to finding any resolution. Unfortunately, it did appear that you were involved with copy and content creation for Mass Network and MassCoin ICO, as well as took credit for raising the funds, and I did bring attention to this and apologize for calling you a "professional scammer" and retract this statement. That fact that you came here to address the accusations, shows that you are a person of integrity.

A handful of participants including yourself, are now being "hung out to dry" by Alexander Kuzmin, and Alexey Oschepkov -- who have now moved onto new scams.  It has come to light that much of the communications regarding people's involvement in the Mass Network were outright lies and misinformation, which can be seen from the PR that was published at Bitcoin.com

https://news.bitcoin.com/mass-network-bitcoin-advertising/

Archived Link: http://archive.is/t2S1u

In this article, the Mass Network was referred to as a "Bitcoin Super Team" ... "composed of leading innovators from businesses such as Colu, Mycelium, Evernote, BitFury Capital, Deutsche Bank and IBM."

It is unfortunate that you were brought into the fold of this scam, along with Bitcoin.com

I believe this situation is sobering for yourself, and for everyone here.  Meanwhile, those ultimately responsible are now gone with the rest of the funds. Thank you for addressing the accusations, and providing more facts, as the community works to bring accountability to Alexander Kuzmin and Alexey Oschepkov (Kontegna). I will only let the facts speak for themselves at this point, as they come to the surface.

These sorts of ICO PR shenanigans cannot continue to go on at Bitcoin.com or within the Bitcoin space without accountability, and ultimately, that's all people want here -- accountability.

copying from the original new thread and my post there  DO NOT POST SESC LINKS


Hi, Mass Investors!


Here's my experience that I feel I need to contribute to the community since this doubt has arisen.

0) Neither me personally, nor my company (www.knowledger.consulting) have any affiliation with Mass Network or any of its founders/employees. I was just a contractor to Mass writing the white & blue papers and advising on general matters. Neither me, nor my company has ever received or managed in any way any funds directly from the crowdsale discussed.

1) I was first engaged in the project in early August of 2016 when I met Alexander Pankov (nick “pianist”) in Riga, Latvia, EU, in person. I assume, I was quite an obvious guy to get invited since I combine the knowledge of blockchain tech and ad-blocking as you can see in my blog (https://medium.com/@Knowledger).

2) Alexander Pankov has made an impression of having some deep knowledge of the subject, although I was unpleasantly amazed by him humiliating his wife more than twice publicly during an hour-long meeting. I should have probably withdrawn myself from there right away which I didn't, unfortunately.

3) Alexander Pankov initiated the crowdsale of Mass Network tokens by starting the ANN thread on Bitcointalk. I spent about 40 days communicating with Mass Network representatives while ~90% of messaging happened directly with Alexander Pankov / pianist.

4) I created the white and blue papers of the projects with Michael Malley being my proof-reader and Sam Cheng Hung being the webmaster. Those were the only contacts I had within Mass, besides Alexander Pankov (a lot) and Alexander Kuzmin, occasionally, on general topics. By that time, I assumed that Alexander Pankov has hired all the dev team members by himself.

5) Along the way, Alexander Pankov began to fill my inbox with tons of messages that were self-contradictory, controversial, and not making sense at all. I expressed doubt he could manage his way, in polite terms.

6) In mid-September 2016 I was kicked off the project by Alexander Pankov with the extremely rude wording "I don't need you in the project, being impertinent to me is your life-lesson". I can prove that to any entity and will insist that in any court should that take place.

7) Later, along the project development, Alexander Kuzmin accurately calculated my participation and let me off, fulfilling all obligations to me, after his purchase of the entire thing, with no objections from my side whatsoever. I also had relations with him in the Mycelium Card project (https://card.mycelium.com) years before, where he also behave himself as a gentleman. I have no grounds to suspect him in any wrongdoings. He was indeed an escrow of the funds, according to his own words. I have zero knowledge on how funds received during the crowdsale were used, though.

I have to mention that Alexander Kuzmin has received a number of suggestions from me that he has ignored. Specifically I have advised him to withdraw from specific partnerships that he has announced on the Mass Network website. Him not doing so does not lead me to the assumption he meant any harm to Mass Network investors, rather I suppose I have limited knowledge of the matter.

Cool Alexander Pankov has "left the project" in December 2016, according to his own words. That happened RIGHT AFTER all the crowdfunding money were collected. We only have his word for that event, as a matter of fact.

9) In February 2017, Alexander Pankov (nicknamed "pianist") names me as a project "founder" while he well knows I am not and was not. That’s a blatant lie. It seems he is trying to blame me.

10) I have no grounds to suspect the project has let its investors down and stopped development. I don’t know why they have let this escalate or generate such a suspicious feeling in the community, I just felt I need to honestly express my view and what I know for sure.
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Regards,

Alex
Knowledger.consulting

Just as I expected.  Everyone here was involved, but nobody can take responsibility.  And it seems that Alexander Kuzmin is the one who has "disappeared without a trace". 

Thanks for speaking out your version of the facts. 

This is a horrible shit-stain on Mycelium.

tokyopotato,
Thanks for retracting your statement about me as a scammer. Now, I must comment on 1) Mr. Alexey Oschepkov and his involvement as well as 2) bitcoin.com's involvement (which was nothing other than to publish a press release).  

1) I have never met Oschepkov in person but we worked together on various publications, including the whitepaper. He, as main author, and myself as copy-editor (he wrote it and i edited for grammar, clarity as I am a native ENG speaker and understand that basic concepts involved).

Alexey's account of the events above is in accord with what I know of the situation. I do not see any reason why he would be involved in a "scam" if this is indeed what is transpiring. He was definitely let go and I was told it was because he and the Alexander's "didnt have the same vision for the project".

And if he was a scammer, why the hell would he be in here defending himself? Wouldn't he be avoiding this entirely like some of the others implicated? I see no reason to go after the only people who are in here trying to help you all.

Please consider the facts as well as the transparency with which he and I have communicated with this thread. I do not know about him but I am taking time out of my work schedule to address any questions and help in any way I can. It pains me to see (from what I know) a decent person like Mr. Oschepkov, implicated without much evidence other than having written the white paper. He's a smart guy and about as hardcore of a bitcoin/blockchainer as I have ever met. Ask yourself why a "scammer" with his name on Mass documents would then put his name on Knowledger as if no one would notice. It doesn't make any sense.

2) bitcoin.com posted the press release of Mass... Guess what? So did coindesk and others.. are they to be dragged through the mud too here?

It seems very clear that Mr. Kuzmin and any others currently involved in Mass are the people who need to be contacted.

This is horseshit.

If the Alex boys went their separate ways, why have they colluded on Swishcoin and Knowledger since mass.network. Clearly they have an ongoing relationship and you are trying to defend your friend Alex O. Unfortunately he is deep rooted in these scams.

[HomoHenning]

where are the ico funds? I think the escrow (Kuzmin) could tell this and is also responsible for informing us. Any other action can be interpreted as an involvement in the scam. Also pianist could tell us what he did with the ico funds before he left the project

[tokyopotato]

The facts point to this scam being propagated with full knowledge by the Mycelium team, even though many have tried to distance themselves.  It is very unfortunate. In fact, it seems that Alex Kontegna as serial ICO involvement*, and that he is involved in http://knowledger.consulting (*edited)

https://medium.com/@Knowledger/how-to-spot-a-great-ico-and-leave-a-bad-one-alone-4665581e6a6d#.yg8a6bxjl

http://archive.is/5DxgW

https://www.reddit.com/user/Alex_Kontegna

https://www.reddit.com/user/mikeMassNetwork

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/50he2a/bitcoin_superteam_creates_mass_a_blockchainbased/

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/50ar6s/bitcoin_superteam_creates_mass_blockchainbased/

OMG! More slander, man... yes, that was me, Mike. Have you ever worked at a company? Generally, The CTO and CEO run the show. This was the case as far as I know at Mass. They ask people like me to do marketing stuff which means just send some press releases to outlets. I was never involved in collecting money and neither was the "scam originator", Mr. Oschepkov. From what I know he was fired!!! Probably for asking too many questions about how it would actually work!... come on, man. Please have some decency. I understand you are upset, I would be too. Focus you efforts on tracking down the real people involved though instead of accusing the people trying to help you.

Thanks, Mike

Please understand that we are trying to get information about who the "real people" are, but so far there is a lot of finger pointing. Who had access to the bitcoin ICO funds?  Was this Alexander Kuzmin?

If so, then this story is really about Mycelium and Alexander Kuzmin scamming investors out of hundreds of thousands of dollars, through false information (fake news announcement about Acquisition and CEO of Mass)

[Tribute]

I can't work out if Mike is trying to hide something or is just missing the obvious.

IF his friend Alex O was another innocent party. Then why does Alex O. keep setting up ICOs with Kuzmin?

According to Pianist, the two Alex's ran the show and did all the hiring and firing. So I just don't see how they wouldn't have had insight into the plans for this scheme.

[Tribute]

where are the ico funds? I think the escrow (Kuzmin) could tell this and is also responsible for informing us. Any other action can be interpreted as an involvement in the scam. Also pianist could tell us what he did with the ico funds before he left the project

Pianist says he never had access to the funds. It was always Kuzmin who controlled the funds.