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[Betcoin.AG]

Where are the BBJ funds?

Why are player funds not seperated?

We have answered this question many times. The BBJ is ready to be hit and paid any time. It is not necessary to repeat this question when the answer will be the same. The funds are not an issue. We look forward to paying this out. If you feel uncomfortable playing with Betcoin, we understand and you certainly have that choice, but we are not going to answer this same question over and over. Thank you very much.

You really haven't given a valid reason for refusing to be transparent with the BBJP funds.

Also, there are many things you said you would do that haven't been done.  Clarifying the BBJP rules, lowering the requirements to Jacks full of Tens to start and then lowering them regularly till hit.

You said you hoped to have the BBJP hit 10 times over 4-8 weeks with the 10th hit paying out the remainder of the jackpot, including seed money.

We cannot control what people believe. When the BBJ hits it will be paid. If it was not, of course you would have all the reason in the world to complain. But it is not an issue. Betcoin is working hard to be the best, most reputable site available. Hoping to see some announcemets from the poker team about the BBJ very soon. Will post here with an update as soon as possible. We appreciate all our players and anyone who provides constructive feedback. Give us a chance and you will see how hard we are all working to make Betcoin the best.

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[TwitchySeal]

We cannot control what people believe.

Yes, you can.

Sign a message with an address that contains the BBJP funds and people will believe you have them.

Give us a chance and you will see how hard we are all working to make Betcoin the best.

You've been given soooooo many chances already.

We're giving you a chance right now in fact, just sign the message and prove you have the funds.  I'm not accusing you of not having them, just giving you a chance to prove you do.
There is no good reason not to.

[Betcoin.AG]

We cannot control what people believe.

Yes, you can.

Sign a message with an address that contains the BBJP funds and people will believe you have them.

Give us a chance and you will see how hard we are all working to make Betcoin the best.

You've been given soooooo many chances already.

We're giving you a chance right now in fact, just sign the message and prove you have the funds.  I'm not accusing you of not having them, just giving you a chance to prove you do.

We will prove that we do like everyone else does, as soon as the BBJ is hit. Feel free to hold judgement until that happens.

[TwitchySeal]

We cannot control what people believe.

Yes, you can.

Sign a message with an address that contains the BBJP funds and people will believe you have them.

Give us a chance and you will see how hard we are all working to make Betcoin the best.

You've been given soooooo many chances already.

We're giving you a chance right now in fact, just sign the message and prove you have the funds.  I'm not accusing you of not having them, just giving you a chance to prove you do.

We will prove that we do like everyone else does, as soon as the BBJ is hit. Feel free to hold judgement until that happens.

There have been many online poker sites with that scammed players out of millions that had better reputation than Betcoin:
Fulltilt, Absolute Poker, Ultimate Bet, Lock Poker, Fullflush I'm sure I'm missing a bunch.

[Betcoin.AG]

Quick update on the poker side:
There has been much discussion as to how to earn our player's trust back and obviously a large part of that will be determined by how the payout of the BBJ is handled. We are very close to having this finalized and we think the new idea will show that we are in this for the long run and intend to make BetcoinPoker the best place to play. Not only that, but it is a creative and fun idea that people should enjoy. Stay tuned because an announcement will follow this week regarding how this will be handled and we are sure that the player's will like it.

[Flagship11]

Quick update on the poker side:
There has been much discussion as to how to earn our player's trust back and obviously a large part of that will be determined by how the payout of the BBJ is handled. We are very close to having this finalized and we think the new idea will show that we are in this for the long run and intend to make BetcoinPoker the best place to play. Not only that, but it is a creative and fun idea that people should enjoy. Stay tuned because an announcement will follow this week regarding how this will be handled and we are sure that the player's will like it.

Curious how this will play out.  Youve already lost the trust/respect of most people on this forum and in the BTC workspace alone.

[TwitchySeal]

Betcoin William banned me last week for "trolling" (total bullshit)
They've gone out of there way to ignore my requests for an explanation. (Tried opening ticket, emailing support, talking to live chat)

For what it's worth, this is the same guy that has probably banned me 10+ times over the past 2+ years - so as far as "new management" goes....yeah

I have zero doubt they are just sick of me calling them out and want me to go away. (not going to happen)

I honestly do believe Betcoin has the technology and connections to be very successful...just not the people.

It's really pathetic though how often their words/promises never line up with their actions.  The "new" Betcoin (sarcasm) somehow has managed to do even more damage to their reputation since December.

Shortly after I was banned, I saw Betcoin post this in public chat for a player who was requesting a Birthday bonus.



I immediately created new account to tell this guy not to ever upload his ID to any public image hosting site. (I don't think I have to explain why here...)

Obviously they censored my comments.

[Betcoin.AG]

Betcoin William banned me last week for "trolling" (total bullshit)

For what it's worth, he's probably banned me 10+ times over the past 2+ years - so as far as "new management" goes....yeah

I have zero doubt they are just sick of me calling them out and want me to go away. (not going to happen)

I honestly do believe Betcoin has the technology and connections to be very successful...just not the people.

It's really pathetic though how often their words/promises never line up with their actions.

Literally hours everyday of trolling players, staff and the company, posting duplicate posts, multiaccounting and breaking several other posted player chat and forum rules was the reason while never playing at Betcoin.ag.  

We appreciate your time and keeping us relevant in forums and throughout the Internet which delivers visitors therefore we certainly don't want you to go away.  As we continue to grow and focus on providing the best place to play we have to make sure that the forum and chat rules are followed for everyone's enjoyment.  

5 years strong and we look forward to the future and continued growth.  

[Betcoin.AG]

Quick update on the poker side:
There has been much discussion as to how to earn our player's trust back and obviously a large part of that will be determined by how the payout of the BBJ is handled. We are very close to having this finalized and we think the new idea will show that we are in this for the long run and intend to make BetcoinPoker the best place to play. Not only that, but it is a creative and fun idea that people should enjoy. Stay tuned because an announcement will follow this week regarding how this will be handled and we are sure that the player's will like it.

Curious how this will play out.  Youve already lost the trust/respect of most people on this forum and in the BTC workspace alone.

It will play out well at BetcoinPoker.ag.  There will be updates and many new features, promotions and benefits coming.  We thank you for your feedback and we look forward to the future. 

[TwitchySeal]

Betcoin William banned me last week for "trolling" (total bullshit)

For what it's worth, he's probably banned me 10+ times over the past 2+ years - so as far as "new management" goes....yeah

I have zero doubt they are just sick of me calling them out and want me to go away. (not going to happen)

I honestly do believe Betcoin has the technology and connections to be very successful...just not the people.

It's really pathetic though how often their words/promises never line up with their actions.

Literally hours everyday of trolling players, staff and the company, posting duplicate posts, multiaccounting and breaking several other posted player chat and forum rules was the reason while never playing at Betcoin.ag.  

We appreciate your time and keeping us relevant in forums and throughout the Internet therefore we certainly don't want you to go away.  As we continue to grow and focus on providing the best place to play we have to make sure that the forum and chat rules are followed for everyone's enjoyment.  

5 years strong and we look forward to the future and continued growth.  

You are lying.

If you think i just spend hours a day trolling why have Brandon and David told me so many times how much they appreciated me being part of the community and helping out?

This was a couple hours before William banned me.

We appreciate your contributions both to us and the community as a whole. Please use your role as a leader in the community to help us keep things civil in the forums.

Keep in mind, William has banned me at least 10 times and treated me like shit over the past two years.  I'd be happy to provide proof if you'd like.  Just gotta dig through some of these screenshots:

[DarkDays]

Betcoin William banned me last week for "trolling" (total bullshit)

For what it's worth, he's probably banned me 10+ times over the past 2+ years - so as far as "new management" goes....yeah

I have zero doubt they are just sick of me calling them out and want me to go away. (not going to happen)

I honestly do believe Betcoin has the technology and connections to be very successful...just not the people.

It's really pathetic though how often their words/promises never line up with their actions.

Literally hours everyday of trolling players, staff and the company, posting duplicate posts, multiaccounting and breaking several other posted player chat and forum rules was the reason while never playing at Betcoin.ag.  

We appreciate your time and keeping us relevant in forums and throughout the Internet which delivers visitors therefore we certainly don't want you to go away.  As we continue to grow and focus on providing the best place to play we have to make sure that the forum and chat rules are followed for everyone's enjoyment.  

5 years strong and we look forward to the future and continued growth.  

Jessica White is BACK, deleting comments in this thread (I had a week old comment deleted yesterday) and trying to spin the incorrect "We like when you point out our massive failings because it brings us hits" narrative.

Looks like that "new management" lie lasted less than two months.

Looks like they are trying to trick people into giving them more money when they've stolen the BBJ.  But don't worry, they "have a plan that everyone will love".  Just like they had a plan two months ago.  Haven't heard any plan nor seen any money. 

But don't worry guys, it's coming REAL soon!  Just keep giving them money. 

[Betcoin.AG]

Twitchy just follow the chat and forum rules and you are welcome in chat.  We do appreciate that you enjoy spending your time there and sharing Betcoin.ag.  

DarkDays:  Jessica has remained on staff as well as William and a few others as mid level support reps.  There have been several notable exits as well.  Additionally, there was a substantial shift in policy and vision which is coming along very well.

We look forward to continuing to improve everyday.

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[TwitchySeal]

Twitchy just follow the chat and forum rules and you are welcome in chat.  We do appreciate that you enjoy spending your time there and sharing Betcoin.ag.

Wow this is really bringing back memories.  (Obviously My Account is Banned and Jessica/William are the ones that are doing the trolling)

Over two years ago we had the following exchange.  They Ban me, then tell me they appreciate me and I'm welcome back but obviously don't unban account.  Then they ended up ignoring me for a few months, then unbanning me for a few weeks and trying to convince me things were different now, then eventually banning me again for a few months...rinse repeat.


(From December 2015)

[TwitchySeal]

Got another scam attempt sent to my Betcoin email address.
This one is a little different than the past.  It's sent from betcoinvip.club which redirects to https://www.betcoin.ag/vip
They're hoping that a player who investigates will assume the two are the same. 

This is scam and nobody should ever send to any address that you receive via email.



In other news, my account still banned for "trolling", here are a couple examples mod behavior at Betcoin: (zzzzzzz, and Bigthangz)

[bratko99]

Can't say the say the best sportsbook system, but not too shabby lol
One thing that I really really love is that you accept several coins! A big plus, cuz of the fees.

Also we still can't see what we have betted on sports via the sportsbook system.

[Betcoin.AG]

Got another scam attempt sent to my Betcoin email address.
This one is a little different than the past.  It's sent from betcoinvip.club which redirects to https://www.betcoin.ag/vip
They're hoping that a player who investigates will assume the two are the same. 

This is scam and nobody should ever send to any address that you receive via email.

We appreciate you bringing the scam email to both our and our player's attention. Obviously we don't want anyone to get fooled by this.

As you know, we are now holding all players AND staff more accountable for what is said in the player chat and forum. We are trying to start off on a new foot in there and enforce these new rules to keep the peace. A couple of those moderator interactions you posted are obviously unacceptable and will be dealt with if they continue. Your specific violations which were deemed "trolling" included steering people away from the site and posting the same post multiple times. You were warned about this then continued to violate. It is that simple. Many other warnings have been issued since the new rules took place, however you were one of the only people who continued to violate despite warnings. We consider this a temporary ban and are ready to invite you back if you will follow the rules. If you see anyone else not following the rules, we welcome you to report them to support@betcoin.ag.

[Betcoin.AG]

Can't say the say the best sportsbook system, but not too shabby lol
One thing that I really really love is that you accept several coins! A big plus, cuz of the fees.

Also we still can't see what we have betted on sports via the sportsbook system.

Thank you very much for the feedback and we are aware the open ticket system is still intermittent. We are working on a permanent fix for this and we appreciate you playing with us.

[TwitchySeal]

Got another scam attempt sent to my Betcoin email address.
This one is a little different than the past.  It's sent from betcoinvip.club which redirects to https://www.betcoin.ag/vip
They're hoping that a player who investigates will assume the two are the same. 

This is scam and nobody should ever send to any address that you receive via email.

We appreciate you bringing the scam email to both our and our player's attention. Obviously we don't want anyone to get fooled by this.

As you know, we are now holding all players AND staff more accountable for what is said in the player chat and forum. We are trying to start off on a new foot in there and enforce these new rules to keep the peace. A couple of those moderator interactions you posted are obviously unacceptable and will be dealt with if they continue. Your specific violations which were deemed "trolling" included steering people away from the site and posting the same post multiple times. You were warned about this then continued to violate. It is that simple. Many other warnings have been issued since the new rules took place, however you were one of the only people who continued to violate despite warnings. We consider this a temporary ban and are ready to invite you back if you will follow the rules. If you see anyone else not following the rules, we welcome you to report them to support@betcoin.ag.

I'll follow the rules.

I really think we should have an open discussion about what specifically I said that was considered a violation.

[Betcoin.AG]

Got another scam attempt sent to my Betcoin email address.
This one is a little different than the past.  It's sent from betcoinvip.club which redirects to https://www.betcoin.ag/vip
They're hoping that a player who investigates will assume the two are the same. 

This is scam and nobody should ever send to any address that you receive via email.

We appreciate you bringing the scam email to both our and our player's attention. Obviously we don't want anyone to get fooled by this.

As you know, we are now holding all players AND staff more accountable for what is said in the player chat and forum. We are trying to start off on a new foot in there and enforce these new rules to keep the peace. A couple of those moderator interactions you posted are obviously unacceptable and will be dealt with if they continue. Your specific violations which were deemed "trolling" included steering people away from the site and posting the same post multiple times. You were warned about this then continued to violate. It is that simple. Many other warnings have been issued since the new rules took place, however you were one of the only people who continued to violate despite warnings. We consider this a temporary ban and are ready to invite you back if you will follow the rules. If you see anyone else not following the rules, we welcome you to report them to support@betcoin.ag.

I'll follow the rules.

I really think we should have an open discussion about what specifically I said that was considered a violation.

Thank you. One big thing is that you are antagonizing the staff members (even on this thread). We realize that as human beings not everyone will get along, but it is not going to be tolerated for you to speak poorly of them (or for them to publicly speak poorly of you). We have a great team at Betcoin and if you don't like certain members, just avoid them. That is just civility and we know you are capable of it.

One other thing is the chat and forum are for fun and not for you to point out all our past errors and scare new players away. We are aware of the things that were handled improperly in the past, but we are trying really hard to make Betcoin better and I know you see this.

Regarding the mutiple posts, if we don't respond to your questions immediately, it is usually because we don't have the answers immediately. Other times, the questions have overstepped the bounds of information you need to know, but generally speaking we have no problem being as transparent as possible about our dealings. Sometimes a little patience is needed.

And the last thing, is if you get temporarily banned, just accept it. As you know, we are forgiving people. Sometimes we just need to give people a timeout to cool off. If this ever happened again, don't create additional accounts to game the system. The system is in place for a reason, to keep the peace. We like having you around, but please accept our ruling on things like this.

Those are the specific things that got you warned and temporarily banned. We have activated your account, per Brandon and management, and you are being given another shot. See you in the chat.

[TwitchySeal]

One other thing is the chat and forum are for fun and not for you to point out all our past errors and scare new players away. We are aware of the things that were handled improperly in the past, but we are trying really hard to make Betcoin better and I know you see this.

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I really think you are making a big mistake by looking for a "free pass" for all the scummy things Betcoin has pulled over the past 2+ years.
These are issues that were never resolved and most of the people responsible for them are still working for Betcoin.  (Jessica, William, Plo8 and zzzzzz are all directly responsible for Betcoins reputation - and they're all still working for you.)

Regarding the mutiple posts, if we don't respond to your questions immediately, it is usually because we don't have the answers immediately. Other times, the questions have overstepped the bounds of information you need to know, but generally speaking we have no problem being as transparent as possible about our dealings. Sometimes a little patience is needed.

Ok lets talk about the multiple posts thing.

Here's the first post I made: https://www.betcoin.ag/placed-bets#comment-96599


Notice that over the next 2-3 days there were 15+ responses, many of them were personal attacks on me.
Also notice that despite the attacks, I remained civil.
Also notice that you responded to another question, yet ignored mine.
Here are some of the posts that were made after I asked the above question, and before I asked it again.






So after all this, I asked the same question again (it wasn't a 100% copy paste, I updated the amount of days and added another question.  I can't remember exactly what it was and I don't have a screenshot of it but it was certainly not just a copy paste.

Here is the response I got:



They left all the attacks against me but deleted my question because I made a similiar post that didn't get a response 2-3 days earlier.

This was all 2+ weeks ago and all the posts attacking me are still there.  Even after the following claims:



As of today, all the attacks against me are still there.

I really don't care about being attacked, I'm used to it.  But it is pretty frustrating to get censored and banned for duplicate posts or trolling when obviously the above is considered perfectly acceptable.