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[Betcoin.AG]

Hopefully Betcoin does the right thing and honors the current promotion, paying those that are owed money!

We certainly will still be distributing the bad beat jackpot, if that's what you are referring to. Should be late next week.

[TwitchySeal]

Don't hold your breath, count your chickens before they're hatched, spend the check just because you've been told it's in the mail, and any other similar cliche would still be appropriate.
but.............

I've been communicating with Betcoin support.  

Most of you will be just as shocked to read this as I am typing it - but - at this point, I think it's very likely true that Betcoin has indeed been acquired by new management.

More importantly, rather than stealing it, I think it's more likely than not that Betcoin will be paying out the balance of the BBJP in a fair manner (which will take quite a bit of effort on their part)

I suggest anyone with friends who have played on Betcoin over the past few years but haven't been active in the community recently keep an eye on this topic.

They have recently unbanned my account, ip and reinstated my VIP status.

I recently posted this on their forum.

[TwitchySeal]

I believe they are in the process of acquiring a license with some regulatory body, which would most likely prevent all players from USA to play ( maybe just some states, not sure, probably France, UK, Portugal, Spain, Australia and any other market that;s currently regulated by government or is run by a Nutjob like N Korea or Syria).  

Pretty slim chance anyone will be able to play unless they live in a gray market.

As I have said before, I  have been miraculously convinced that there is a real decent chance they will distribute the BBJP to the players in a fair manner.  (They will not fuck you)

Assuming they do payout the BBJP ( which I hope to ne true, but will only believe when I see ), I was explicitly told that whatever you are paid you - will be able to withdraw - regardless of where you live - and despite the fact that you would be unable lost any of it back if you wanted to.

If you're in a restricted country, it's very possible your BBJP cashout will be your final transaction with Betcoin.

I think some reasonable questions at this point would be:

- What if we one were to live in restricted country, X (X) , but often travel to permitted country B (B).  Could a player gamble while in (B) without worry?

- What if a player makes a wager while in (B)  which isn't settled until some point after which the player has returned to (X)? (For example, a MLB future 8 months in advance)  Will they run into issues withdrawing?

I Don't really expect these questions to be answered very quickly, but ignoring them would likely result in future issues/rep damage.

Also, please advise players ASAP who you will be regulated by, what regulations you be following, and how to make official disputes.  


 

[Betcoin.AG]

I believe they are in the process of acquiring a license with some regulatory body, which would most likely prevent all players from USA to play ( maybe just some states, not sure, probably France, UK, Portugal, Spain, Australia and any other market that;s currently regulated by government or is run by a Nutjob like N Korea or Syria).  

Pretty slim chance anyone will be able to play unless they live in a gray market.

As I have said before, I  have been miraculously convinced that there is a real decent chance they will distribute the BBJP to the players in a fair manner.  (They will not fuck you)

Assuming they do payout the BBJP ( which I hope to ne true, but will only believe when I see ), I was explicitly told that whatever you are paid you - will be able to withdraw - regardless of where you live - and despite the fact that you would be unable lost any of it back if you wanted to.

If you're in a restricted country, it's very possible your BBJP cashout will be your final transaction with Betcoin.

I think some reasonable questions at this point would be:

- What if we one were to live in restricted country, X (X) , but often travel to permitted country B (B).  Could a player gamble while in (B) without worry?

- What if a player makes a wager while in (B)  which isn't settled until some point after which the player has returned to (X)? (For example, a MLB future 8 months in advance)  Will they run into issues withdrawing?

I Don't really expect these questions to be answered very quickly, but ignoring them would likely result in future issues/rep damage.

Also, please advise players ASAP who you will be regulated by, what regulations you be following, and how to make official disputes.  


 

Twitchy is correct, to receive a gaming license, we are unable to offer games in areas where it might be prohibited by law.
However, all accounts will remain active for withdrawals and player chat. If you are a citizen of any restricted country, you are prohibited from play, unless you have dual citizenship or another citizenship and access the website from a non-restricted country. The ip block only prevents people from depositing or playing in the restricted areas.
I hope I was able to clear this up. Please note that some of the things I said may be subject to change at some point but regardless of that, your coin will always be eligible and safe for withdrawal. Hopefully this cleared up some of these questions. Feel free to ask any more if you have them!

[Mont0]

Well my friends i've finally decided to try this betting site and it was a big mistake

I am playing at Cloudbet for years, and yesterday i've deposited 0.7 ETH to Betcoin. First i've had to wait 4 hours for my deposit to be visible, ok, it happens.

Website is messy (childish), very hard to find what you are looking for, but i've managed to go live betting, changed odds to decimal, but when you open your betting match, odds are not decimal. Than i've tried to play, i'm usually playing single matches with normal stake... so i've tried to stake 20 chips, but no... they've saying max bet is 10 chips, ok, after i've tried 10 chips, it goes even lower, it has stopped somewhere around 0,70 chips... wtf? It was absolutely same with almost every match... but eventually i staked 7 or 10 chips at some (two) matches, after many many attempts, very annoying... No matter how much you stake, they just refuse to accept and tell you to put lower stake.

In a meantime i decided to play some slots, they look like 15th century slots, then i won some betting and decide to withdraw 50 chips, about 0.8 ETH. So i did my withdraw, and nothing happened after 24 hours. I contacted someone from chat support, they told me to withdraw again?? And voila... my chips are in balance again, so i did my withdraw again and contact them on Chat again... of course they've told me that my withdraw will be processed in the next 24 hours.... but i was already waiting for 28 hours....

Now i don't care, i am lost my patience with this frauds, i don't care if they never send me my money back, i am done with them. Don't go there please, there is so much better betting sites, you'll save your nerves because i've never seen something like this before. When i am playing at Cloudbet everything is perfect, instant deposit/withdraw, amazing support, big bonuses, and this? It's ridiculous.

[Betcoin.AG]

Well my friends i've finally decided to try this betting site and it was a big mistake

I am playing at Cloudbet for years, and yesterday i've deposited 0.7 ETH to Betcoin. First i've had to wait 4 hours for my deposit to be visible, ok, it happens.

Website is messy (childish), very hard to find what you are looking for, but i've managed to go live betting, changed odds to decimal, but when you open your betting match, odds are not decimal. Than i've tried to play, i'm usually playing single matches with normal stake... so i've tried to stake 20 chips, but no... they've saying max bet is 10 chips, ok, after i've tried 10 chips, it goes even lower, it has stopped somewhere around 0,70 chips... wtf? It was absolutely same with almost every match... but eventually i staked 7 or 10 chips at some (two) matches, after many many attempts, very annoying... No matter how much you stake, they just refuse to accept and tell you to put lower stake.

In a meantime i decided to play some slots, they look like 15th century slots, then i won some betting and decide to withdraw 50 chips, about 0.8 ETH. So i did my withdraw, and nothing happened after 24 hours. I contacted someone from chat support, they told me to withdraw again?? And voila... my chips are in balance again, so i did my withdraw again and contact them on Chat again... of course they've told me that my withdraw will be processed in the next 24 hours.... but i was already waiting for 28 hours....

Now i don't care, i am lost my patience with this frauds, i don't care if they never send me my money back, i am done with them. Don't go there please, there is so much better betting sites, you'll save your nerves because i've never seen something like this before. When i am playing at Cloudbet everything is perfect, instant deposit/withdraw, amazing support, big bonuses, and this? It's ridiculous.

Hey Mont, thanks for the feedback. We had issues with all ETH deposits and withdrawals yesterday. As you can imagine this kept us quite busy. We actually had to remove the ETH option for several hours. Seems like the system is running more smoothly now and apologize for the inconvenience.
The sportsbook is currently in Beta and we understand that you may be used to a different structure and we recommend that people to whom our book is confusing to play on another book until our full version launches.
Sorry to hear you found our slots old fashioned. We have many 3D slot options with the latest technology. What slot were you playing?
We are hoping to have instant withdrawals and deposits soon, as well. We have to wait until the poker transactions have ceased for this to take place.

[Yadamosan]

Well my friends i've finally decided to try this betting site and it was a big mistake

I am playing at Cloudbet for years, and yesterday i've deposited 0.7 ETH to Betcoin. First i've had to wait 4 hours for my deposit to be visible, ok, it happens.

Website is messy (childish), very hard to find what you are looking for, but i've managed to go live betting, changed odds to decimal, but when you open your betting match, odds are not decimal. Than i've tried to play, i'm usually playing single matches with normal stake... so i've tried to stake 20 chips, but no... they've saying max bet is 10 chips, ok, after i've tried 10 chips, it goes even lower, it has stopped somewhere around 0,70 chips... wtf? It was absolutely same with almost every match... but eventually i staked 7 or 10 chips at some (two) matches, after many many attempts, very annoying... No matter how much you stake, they just refuse to accept and tell you to put lower stake.

In a meantime i decided to play some slots, they look like 15th century slots, then i won some betting and decide to withdraw 50 chips, about 0.8 ETH. So i did my withdraw, and nothing happened after 24 hours. I contacted someone from chat support, they told me to withdraw again?? And voila... my chips are in balance again, so i did my withdraw again and contact them on Chat again... of course they've told me that my withdraw will be processed in the next 24 hours.... but i was already waiting for 28 hours....

Now i don't care, i am lost my patience with this frauds, i don't care if they never send me my money back, i am done with them. Don't go there please, there is so much better betting sites, you'll save your nerves because i've never seen something like this before. When i am playing at Cloudbet everything is perfect, instant deposit/withdraw, amazing support, big bonuses, and this? It's ridiculous.

Hey Mont, thanks for the feedback. We had issues with all ETH deposits and withdrawals yesterday. As you can imagine this kept us quite busy. We actually had to remove the ETH option for several hours. Seems like the system is running more smoothly now and apologize for the inconvenience.
The sportsbook is currently in Beta and we understand that you may be used to a different structure and we recommend that people to whom our book is confusing to play on another book until our full version launches.
Sorry to hear you found our slots old fashioned. We have many 3D slot options with the latest technology. What slot were you playing?
We are hoping to have instant withdrawals and deposits soon, as well. We have to wait until the poker transactions have ceased for this to take place.

Just get interested when will you open the full version of your sports book? since I'm also looking for some btc house who offer sports aside from casino. as I seen nitro and sportsbet have this options so while waiting for the game we can play some slots or some dice. looking forward to see some updates here sir.

[Betcoin.AG]

Well my friends i've finally decided to try this betting site and it was a big mistake

I am playing at Cloudbet for years, and yesterday i've deposited 0.7 ETH to Betcoin. First i've had to wait 4 hours for my deposit to be visible, ok, it happens.

Website is messy (childish), very hard to find what you are looking for, but i've managed to go live betting, changed odds to decimal, but when you open your betting match, odds are not decimal. Than i've tried to play, i'm usually playing single matches with normal stake... so i've tried to stake 20 chips, but no... they've saying max bet is 10 chips, ok, after i've tried 10 chips, it goes even lower, it has stopped somewhere around 0,70 chips... wtf? It was absolutely same with almost every match... but eventually i staked 7 or 10 chips at some (two) matches, after many many attempts, very annoying... No matter how much you stake, they just refuse to accept and tell you to put lower stake.

In a meantime i decided to play some slots, they look like 15th century slots, then i won some betting and decide to withdraw 50 chips, about 0.8 ETH. So i did my withdraw, and nothing happened after 24 hours. I contacted someone from chat support, they told me to withdraw again?? And voila... my chips are in balance again, so i did my withdraw again and contact them on Chat again... of course they've told me that my withdraw will be processed in the next 24 hours.... but i was already waiting for 28 hours....

Now i don't care, i am lost my patience with this frauds, i don't care if they never send me my money back, i am done with them. Don't go there please, there is so much better betting sites, you'll save your nerves because i've never seen something like this before. When i am playing at Cloudbet everything is perfect, instant deposit/withdraw, amazing support, big bonuses, and this? It's ridiculous.

Hey Mont, thanks for the feedback. We had issues with all ETH deposits and withdrawals yesterday. As you can imagine this kept us quite busy. We actually had to remove the ETH option for several hours. Seems like the system is running more smoothly now and apologize for the inconvenience.
The sportsbook is currently in Beta and we understand that you may be used to a different structure and we recommend that people to whom our book is confusing to play on another book until our full version launches.
Sorry to hear you found our slots old fashioned. We have many 3D slot options with the latest technology. What slot were you playing?
We are hoping to have instant withdrawals and deposits soon, as well. We have to wait until the poker transactions have ceased for this to take place.

Just get interested when will you open the full version of your sports book? since I'm also looking for some btc house who offer sports aside from casino. as I seen nitro and sportsbet have this options so while waiting for the game we can play some slots or some dice. looking forward to see some updates here sir.

Many improvements have been made in the past week, but we are hoping to have the full version up and running soon. The bet slips are now available for access and the grading is faster and more accurate than ever. Please check it out and provide any feedback or suggestions you may have for additional improvements. 

[goxcraft]

Hey Mont, thanks for the feedback. We had issues with all ETH deposits and withdrawals yesterday. As you can imagine this kept us quite busy. We actually had to remove the ETH option for several hours. Seems like the system is running more smoothly now and apologize for the inconvenience.
The sportsbook is currently in Beta and we understand that you may be used to a different structure and we recommend that people to whom our book is confusing to play on another book until our full version launches.
Sorry to hear you found our slots old fashioned. We have many 3D slot options with the latest technology. What slot were you playing?
We are hoping to have instant withdrawals and deposits soon, as well. We have to wait until the poker transactions have ceased for this to take place.

When BETA period will be over?

[Betcoin.AG]

Hey Mont, thanks for the feedback. We had issues with all ETH deposits and withdrawals yesterday. As you can imagine this kept us quite busy. We actually had to remove the ETH option for several hours. Seems like the system is running more smoothly now and apologize for the inconvenience.
The sportsbook is currently in Beta and we understand that you may be used to a different structure and we recommend that people to whom our book is confusing to play on another book until our full version launches.
Sorry to hear you found our slots old fashioned. We have many 3D slot options with the latest technology. What slot were you playing?
We are hoping to have instant withdrawals and deposits soon, as well. We have to wait until the poker transactions have ceased for this to take place.

When BETA period will be over?

We expect the BETA period to end towards the end of February and have a promotion in the beginning of March thanking all of our great players for playing with us.  Thank you.

[Traderpolo212]

Well my friends i've finally decided to try this betting site and it was a big mistake

I am playing at Cloudbet for years, and yesterday i've deposited 0.7 ETH to Betcoin. First i've had to wait 4 hours for my deposit to be visible, ok, it happens.

Website is messy (childish), very hard to find what you are looking for, but i've managed to go live betting, changed odds to decimal, but when you open your betting match, odds are not decimal. Than i've tried to play, i'm usually playing single matches with normal stake... so i've tried to stake 20 chips, but no... they've saying max bet is 10 chips, ok, after i've tried 10 chips, it goes even lower, it has stopped somewhere around 0,70 chips... wtf? It was absolutely same with almost every match... but eventually i staked 7 or 10 chips at some (two) matches, after many many attempts, very annoying... No matter how much you stake, they just refuse to accept and tell you to put lower stake.

In a meantime i decided to play some slots, they look like 15th century slots, then i won some betting and decide to withdraw 50 chips, about 0.8 ETH. So i did my withdraw, and nothing happened after 24 hours. I contacted someone from chat support, they told me to withdraw again?? And voila... my chips are in balance again, so i did my withdraw again and contact them on Chat again... of course they've told me that my withdraw will be processed in the next 24 hours.... but i was already waiting for 28 hours....

Now i don't care, i am lost my patience with this frauds, i don't care if they never send me my money back, i am done with them. Don't go there please, there is so much better betting sites, you'll save your nerves because i've never seen something like this before. When i am playing at Cloudbet everything is perfect, instant deposit/withdraw, amazing support, big bonuses, and this? It's ridiculous.

hi Mont did you get your widraw I'm also waiting for a widraw and don't know what I can do cause the profile of betcoin.ag is painted with a lot of red trust

[DarkDays]

Hopefully Betcoin does the right thing and honors the current promotion, paying those that are owed money!

We certainly will still be distributing the bad beat jackpot, if that's what you are referring to. Should be late next week.

It's late next week.  How's the distribution coming?

[Betcoin.AG]

Hopefully Betcoin does the right thing and honors the current promotion, paying those that are owed money!

We certainly will still be distributing the bad beat jackpot, if that's what you are referring to. Should be late next week.

It's late next week.  How's the distribution coming?

Update - We are continuing to go through the extensive data. We had to employ the former members in order to parse the data. Due to the complexity, it is taking longer than originally anticipated and we will have another update early next week. Thank you for your patience.

[TwitchySeal]

I spent about 90 minutes on the PFA podcast last night, much of it discussing Betcoin and the BBJP if anyone's interested.

Started about 15-20 min in.

Here's the archive.

https://pokerfraudalert.com/radio/radio-2018-01-11-21-06-40.mp3

[DarkDays]

Hopefully Betcoin does the right thing and honors the current promotion, paying those that are owed money!

We certainly will still be distributing the bad beat jackpot, if that's what you are referring to. Should be late next week.

It's late next week.  How's the distribution coming?

Update - We are continuing to go through the extensive data. We had to employ the former members in order to parse the data. Due to the complexity, it is taking longer than originally anticipated and we will have another update early next week. Thank you for your patience.

Not meeting self-imposed deadlines.

Not letting the community know until specifically asked about it.

Seems like the new Betcoin is exactly like the old Betcoin.

Show us your progress.  Show a spreadsheet of what you've accomplished thus far. 

[Betcoin.AG]

Hopefully Betcoin does the right thing and honors the current promotion, paying those that are owed money!

We certainly will still be distributing the bad beat jackpot, if that's what you are referring to. Should be late next week.

It's late next week.  How's the distribution coming?

Update - We are continuing to go through the extensive data. We had to employ the former members in order to parse the data. Due to the complexity, it is taking longer than originally anticipated and we will have another update early next week. Thank you for your patience.

Not meeting self-imposed deadlines.

Not letting the community know until specifically asked about it.


Seems like the new Betcoin is exactly like the old Betcoin.

Show us your progress.  Show a spreadsheet of what you've accomplished thus far. 

We did let the community know. There have been 2 updates in the player forum this week. The second one I cut and pasted as a response to you but was released prior to your question.

[TuckTuck00]

Betcoin will always be a notoriously shady and untrustworthy operation.

New owners, new management, it doesnt matter.  They will be forever tarnished as being a non-trustworthy brand in this space.

[TwitchySeal]

Betcoin will always be a notoriously shady and untrustworthy operation.

New owners, new management, it doesnt matter.  They will be forever tarnished as being a non-trustworthy brand in this space.

Sadly there are almost no crypto-based gambling sites, that have been operating for any amount of time, without a tarnished reputation.

The few that I can think of have never offered poker, sports-betting or any sort of traditional casino games. (To minimize the shill accusations from idiots like cjmoles,  I won't name them, but if you're interested, ask dooglus or RHaver which sites they would consider the most trustworthy - not including their own.)

Is this an excuse for shady crypto casinos? (like Betcoin.ag)

No.

This is just an attempt to convince current and future crypto gambling sites that transparency will always be the best and most profitable long-term policy.

[DarkDays]

Hopefully Betcoin does the right thing and honors the current promotion, paying those that are owed money!

We certainly will still be distributing the bad beat jackpot, if that's what you are referring to. Should be late next week.

It's late next week.  How's the distribution coming?

Update - We are continuing to go through the extensive data. We had to employ the former members in order to parse the data. Due to the complexity, it is taking longer than originally anticipated and we will have another update early next week. Thank you for your patience.

Not meeting self-imposed deadlines.

Not letting the community know until specifically asked about it.


Seems like the new Betcoin is exactly like the old Betcoin.

Show us your progress.  Show a spreadsheet of what you've accomplished thus far. 

We did let the community know. There have been 2 updates in the player forum this week. The second one I cut and pasted as a response to you but was released prior to your question.

You closed your site to 95%+ of the players using it.  Why would anyone check it?

You seemed to miss the important part of my post, though (which, SHOCKINGLY is exactly what the "old" management used to do all the time!).

"Show us your progress.  Show a spreadsheet of what you've accomplished thus far. "

[TwitchySeal]

This is not super relevant, but kind of hilarious.

plo8monsters son (aka zzzzzz aka thatsixzs) <---both betcoin mods and long time shills,  offered to speak with the owner of PFA  (aka Todd Witteles, aka Dan Druff, aka the guy I had a long conversation with which you can find a link to a few posts earlier ) ... for the very low price of $5 (with a promise of a full refund if no response was given.)

http://g.recordit.co/AewE3ufZf1.gif