Your opinion on recreational drug use

[freeyourmind]

Well if you use those prohibited drugs (at least for our country) for medical purpose I think there should not be any problem at all about that, however if you use those drugs just for mere pleasure and enjoyment then that's was the time when the problem occur , not only you will be affected but the people surrounding you as well because the more you use it all the more you will be dependent on it  , so as early as today if aside from medical purpose please dont use any of those drugs.

Tell me what the negative affects are for me and those around me if I take psilocybin mushrooms, other than going to jail of course?  This is illegal.

Now tell me the negative effects of being prescribed oxycontin by my doctor, and starting to take it.  This is legal.

If taking these drugs can lead to addiction, then it is dangerous for you. The government cares about that its citizens were healthy both physically and mentally. Therefore, such drugs are prohibited.
I'm against having them in a shared access. After all, they can buy children with fragile psyche

I agree with you.  The government cares with its people, futher they do this to atleast lessen crimes that often times caused by drug addiction.  They knew exactly what wil happen if these drugs were abused by its people.  That is perhaps there were drugs that needs prescription because of the addictive substance it have as well as causing side effects.  Studies were made to prohibit drugs reasonably.

Why did you both respond to my post with specific questions, with a generic answer?  Because you have no clue about the difference between drugs whether legal or illegal.  You have no clue which drugs do harm and which don't.  Google is here for you, use it.  I understand being ignorant in 1970, but you have the internet to do research and there's no excuse for ignorance anymore.

You don't know that most deaths happen from LEGAL tobacco.  You don't know the 2nd most deaths happen from LEGAL alcohol.  You don't know the 3rd most deaths come from LEGAL prescription drugs.  Now tell me how much the government cares about you?  And I'm not saying any of those should be made illegal, but you are both talking some misinformed garbage.

Psychedelics are not addictive at all - yet they're illegal.  You're main concern about drug addiction doesn't apply here, so tell me what the government is doing to keep this illegal?  Who are they caring so much about?

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[Sithara007]

Well if you use those prohibited drugs (at least for our country) for medical purpose I think there should not be any problem at all about that, however if you use those drugs just for mere pleasure and enjoyment then that's was the time when the problem occur , not only you will be affected but the people surrounding you as well because the more you use it all the more you will be dependent on it  , so as early as today if aside from medical purpose please dont use any of those drugs.

Tell me what the negative affects are for me and those around me if I take psilocybin mushrooms, other than going to jail of course?  This is illegal.

Now tell me the negative effects of being prescribed oxycontin by my doctor, and starting to take it.  This is legal.

And in my country, the doctors who prescribe medications such as Oxycodone and Hydromorphone receive commissions from the pharma companies. Now things get even more murkier. These sort of opioid drugs are very addictive and harmful for the human body. Yet they are 100% legal.

[BADecker]

Oregon Legislature Passes Bill To Decriminalize Cocaine, Meth, And Heroin

H.B. 2355 passed both the House and Senate last week and reduces possession of illegal drugs to misdemeanors rather than felonies as long as the person in possession does not have prior drug convictions. According to a press release issued on July 7 by Oregon Attorney General Ellen Rosenblum, the bill provides for "the reduction of penalties for lower level drug offenders. The bill also reduces the maximum penalty for Class A misdemeanors by one day to avoid mandatory deportation for misdemeanants."

According to the text of the bill, drugs like LSD, MDMA, cocaine, meth, oxycodone, and heroin are essentially decriminalized in small amounts. Each drug listed is accompanied by the following text, indicating possession is only a felony if:

"(a) The person possesses a usable quantity of the controlled substance and: (A) At the time of the possession, the person has a prior felony conviction; (B) At the time of the possession, the person has two or more prior convictions for unlawful possession of a usable quantity of a controlled substance."

Read more and click the links at http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-07-11/oregon-legislature-passes-bill-decriminalize-cocaine-meth-and-heroin.

[freeyourmind]

Oregon Legislature Passes Bill To Decriminalize Cocaine, Meth, And Heroin

H.B. 2355 passed both the House and Senate last week and reduces possession of illegal drugs to misdemeanors rather than felonies as long as the person in possession does not have prior drug convictions. According to a press release issued on July 7 by Oregon Attorney General Ellen Rosenblum, the bill provides for "the reduction of penalties for lower level drug offenders. The bill also reduces the maximum penalty for Class A misdemeanors by one day to avoid mandatory deportation for misdemeanants."

According to the text of the bill, drugs like LSD, MDMA, cocaine, meth, oxycodone, and heroin are essentially decriminalized in small amounts. Each drug listed is accompanied by the following text, indicating possession is only a felony if:

"(a) The person possesses a usable quantity of the controlled substance and: (A) At the time of the possession, the person has a prior felony conviction; (B) At the time of the possession, the person has two or more prior convictions for unlawful possession of a usable quantity of a controlled substance."

Read more and click the links at http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-07-11/oregon-legislature-passes-bill-decriminalize-cocaine-meth-and-heroin.

Heard about this today as well.  A step forward in my opinion, and in some time it will be yet another example of decriminalization of drugs having a positive impact on society.

[freeyourmind]

Well if you use those prohibited drugs (at least for our country) for medical purpose I think there should not be any problem at all about that, however if you use those drugs just for mere pleasure and enjoyment then that's was the time when the problem occur , not only you will be affected but the people surrounding you as well because the more you use it all the more you will be dependent on it  , so as early as today if aside from medical purpose please dont use any of those drugs.

Tell me what the negative affects are for me and those around me if I take psilocybin mushrooms, other than going to jail of course?  This is illegal.

Now tell me the negative effects of being prescribed oxycontin by my doctor, and starting to take it.  This is legal.

And in my country, the doctors who prescribe medications such as Oxycodone and Hydromorphone receive commissions from the pharma companies. Now things get even more murkier. These sort of opioid drugs are very addictive and harmful for the human body. Yet they are 100% legal.

Isn't it terrible when your consultant for health is the same person as the salesman?  Doctors are also educated to prescribe pharmaceutical solutions to problems.  The approach to throw a pill at the problem, mask the symptoms, put a fake smile on your face and be on your way

[L87Mou]

We need to draw a fine line between a recreational drug and illegal drug. I think some drugs should be considered the former over the latter. EG Cannabis isn't really something we should be arresting people for when at the same time doctors across the country are writing scripts for opioids like it's no body's business.

Have to agree with you there. Marijuana is a relatively harmless drug although there is a lot of negative propaganda against it, which should be legal just like alcohol and tobacco. If harmful drugs such as Oxycodone can be legal, then why not weed?

Legality of substances has never had anything to do with the harm associated with it.  The negative propaganda has been coming from special interest groups that stand to lose something if cannabis was used freely.  This includes the pharmaceutical, alcohol and tobacco industries which are in direct competition with either the medicinal side, or the recreational side.  But the original propaganda was actually against the hemp industry and cannabis just got looped into that deal.  This came from the paper, cotton and petroleum/plastic industries, all of which can be replaced completely with hemp.  To this day growing hemp (to be clear this is not psychoactive) is illegal in America.

The problem is that these industries succeeded in fear mongering the general population into stripping away their own freedom, in order to lift the profitability of these special interests.  This is clearly evident by the opinions on this thread.

Even if cannabis WAS harmful, it should still remain legal, and we as people should educate ourselves on what we do and do not put into our own bodies.  You can walk into any drug store and buy a container of advil, swallow all the pills and die.  No one is preventing this from happening aside from the user being responsible for him/herself.  The government doesn't give a shit about our health although they put on a front that they do, which is why cannabis is illegal.

I disagree a substance shouldn't be illegal or legal based on the associated harm with it. I mean heroin is a horrible drug and really should be made illegal. Then again you're also correct in saying you can go to any store almost buy enough advil to kill yourself with which makes little sense. I think the difference those is the addictivness of it which therefore relates to the extreme stretches of reality to make that addiction happen eg live on the street or in a house with roaches.

[freeyourmind]

We need to draw a fine line between a recreational drug and illegal drug. I think some drugs should be considered the former over the latter. EG Cannabis isn't really something we should be arresting people for when at the same time doctors across the country are writing scripts for opioids like it's no body's business.

Have to agree with you there. Marijuana is a relatively harmless drug although there is a lot of negative propaganda against it, which should be legal just like alcohol and tobacco. If harmful drugs such as Oxycodone can be legal, then why not weed?

Legality of substances has never had anything to do with the harm associated with it.  The negative propaganda has been coming from special interest groups that stand to lose something if cannabis was used freely.  This includes the pharmaceutical, alcohol and tobacco industries which are in direct competition with either the medicinal side, or the recreational side.  But the original propaganda was actually against the hemp industry and cannabis just got looped into that deal.  This came from the paper, cotton and petroleum/plastic industries, all of which can be replaced completely with hemp.  To this day growing hemp (to be clear this is not psychoactive) is illegal in America.

The problem is that these industries succeeded in fear mongering the general population into stripping away their own freedom, in order to lift the profitability of these special interests.  This is clearly evident by the opinions on this thread.

Even if cannabis WAS harmful, it should still remain legal, and we as people should educate ourselves on what we do and do not put into our own bodies.  You can walk into any drug store and buy a container of advil, swallow all the pills and die.  No one is preventing this from happening aside from the user being responsible for him/herself.  The government doesn't give a shit about our health although they put on a front that they do, which is why cannabis is illegal.

I disagree a substance shouldn't be illegal or legal based on the associated harm with it. I mean heroin is a horrible drug and really should be made illegal. Then again you're also correct in saying you can go to any store almost buy enough advil to kill yourself with which makes little sense. I think the difference those is the addictivness of it which therefore relates to the extreme stretches of reality to make that addiction happen eg live on the street or in a house with roaches.

I wasn't saying that harmful drugs should be illegal, if that is what you're disagreeing with.  I don't think you should go to jail for putting anything in your body.  Human beings should have enough intelligence to understand what is going into our bodies, and make an informed decision about it.  In keeping drugs illegal, propaganda is fed to us rather than scientific information on the effects.  This forum is a perfect example of how little people understand about drugs, both legal or illegal, yet have a strong opinion on policy.

You seem to have a problem with heroin, yet you don't have a problem with a doctor prescribing morphine do you?  You don't understand that they are interchangeable drugs.  Exact same effects.  It is this exact ignorance that is the cause of everyone HATING heroin, but having absolutely no issue whatsoever with morphine.  Let's remove the taboo about talking about drugs and start doing some research.

[deejhay]

recreational drugs must be prohibited. there are lots of ways to party and have fun without harming somebody and yourself.

[freeyourmind]

recreational drugs must be prohibited. there are lots of ways to party and have fun without harming somebody and yourself.

You should pack up your bags and go to North Korea.  Everything is prohibited and everyone is safe....and severely brainwashed.  I think you'd like it there. 

[Xester]

recreational drugs must be prohibited. there are lots of ways to party and have fun without harming somebody and yourself.

Yes, I certainly agree with you.  Actually they were prohibited here in our country and that is why we have war on drugs right now.  It turns out that it was really good as we feel much safer.  Yes, I agree again that there are lots of ways to enjoy the evening when you are partying.  Drinks are enough and good music to have a fun while partying.  Besides when the effect of drug subsides and you have done something unimaginable and you really do not like, you will surely mourn and grieve after realizing what wrong have you done.  So, stay away from drugs.

[talkingdreams]

recreational drugs must be prohibited. there are lots of ways to party and have fun without harming somebody and yourself.

I disagree, now people still buy them but from the underground market. They are now all cut up or filled with chemical garbage. If the government regulated the sales of these drugs far less people would get hurt. The demand won't shrink anytime soon, the best thing we can do it carefully manage it.

[flag39]

North Korea does not need any drugs, they are totally drudged by ideology dogma. I now i have lived in communism.

[zabragoil]

I'm in favor, authorities sometimes just don't understand some people need them.

[Jordan_Hodge]

I believe that, the law should reflect that each human being is entitled to do, to their own body, whatever they want!

[izza123]

I have tried every drug that I have had the chance to, which amounts to hundreds of different substances. You can take any drug to excess but you can also take any drug with moderation. Experimenting with drugs is the closest humans can come to experiencing an existence other than their own. Assuming god and magic are total fabrications (my opinion only) drugs are the closest to god we could come.

[bhabygrim]

All drugs have its side effects, some drugs can cure someone's disease but it can be harmful and addictive if it is abused. I think there's no problem on using drugs or medicine as long as it is prescribed by doctors, but if not better not use it because it has side effects that can be harmful to our bodies.

[Sithara007]

Oregon Legislature Passes Bill To Decriminalize Cocaine, Meth, And Heroin

This law was introduced not to help the drug users, but to prevent the immigration authorities deporting illegal immigrants to Mexico, if they are convicted of minor drug offenses. Also, decriminalization is not equal to legalization.

[freeyourmind]

recreational drugs must be prohibited. there are lots of ways to party and have fun without harming somebody and yourself.

Yes, I certainly agree with you.  Actually they were prohibited here in our country and that is why we have war on drugs right now.  It turns out that it was really good as we feel much safer.  Yes, I agree again that there are lots of ways to enjoy the evening when you are partying.  Drinks are enough and good music to have a fun while partying.  Besides when the effect of drug subsides and you have done something unimaginable and you really do not like, you will surely mourn and grieve after realizing what wrong have you done.  So, stay away from drugs.

Fell for the fear mongering?

Which country do you live in to feel that the war on drugs is a success?  Do you base it on your subjective feeling of safety?  You're okay with people drinking alcohol.  A substance that is addictive, can cause aggression, ranked #2 in deaths only behind tobacco (the other legal drug that you likely have no issue with).  If you feel safe around people drinking, you'll feel safe around anyone.

You sound like you're parroting something that was told to you as a kid - "stay away!"

I've been in the presence of people on alcohol, cannabis, cocaine, crack, MDMA/ecstasy, psilocybin mushrooms/LSD, methamphetamine and heroin/morphine.  Of all of these "drugs", I've seen the most aggression from alcohol.  Cannabis, MDMA, ecstasy, mushroom or LSD users are on average super nice and friendly people.  And of all this, you're okay with the one that has the most aggression and death.  Brainwashed yet misinformed and inexperienced are we?

[Frost]

My opinion about the use of drugs is that drugs are not a good thing to consume, the drugs must be destroyed, because the effects of the occurrence of the drug is very apprehensive. Many have died because of drugs and the easy generation has been damaged by drugs, the world can be destroyed because of drugs, so the drugs must be destroyed.

[skillink]

All drugs are dangerous because they have more harm than good effects. We should be able to conclude by ourselves