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November 07, 2016, 11:52:14 AM
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For now raised $194000.

hope we can really get big whales to fund the project because it left only few weeks :/
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November 07, 2016, 04:09:30 PM
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For now raised $194000.

hope we can really get big whales to fund the project because it left only few weeks :/

They see this project but collided with another ico
perhaps the same time the main problem

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November 07, 2016, 05:42:02 PM
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For now raised $194000.

hope we can really get big whales to fund the project because it left only few weeks :/

They see this project but collided with another ico
perhaps the same time the main problem

with which one ?

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November 07, 2016, 05:43:45 PM
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For now raised $194000.
the remainder 16 days to collect $1,556,000
if it reaches the target in 16 days, is truly extraordinary  Cool
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November 07, 2016, 05:46:48 PM
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1 inchain = $$$$$$$ Shocked

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November 07, 2016, 05:49:29 PM
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I dont know this is possible to collect 1mln dollar in 16 days.
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November 07, 2016, 06:07:29 PM
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For now raised $194000.
the remainder 16 days to collect $1,556,000
if it reaches the target in 16 days, is truly extraordinary  Cool
Who knows, singular reached $7.5 mln in 30 minutes)
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November 07, 2016, 06:10:55 PM
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For now raised $194000.
the remainder 16 days to collect $1,556,000
if it reaches the target in 16 days, is truly extraordinary  Cool
Who knows, singular reached $7.5 mln in 30 minutes)
okay I hope so  Cool
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November 07, 2016, 08:39:09 PM
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Missing a few days, it will give time we hit the target?
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November 07, 2016, 09:01:14 PM
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Here is some food for thought for the ones who don't believe in the business model:

I think that the most valuable part of this project is not the initial insurance product we promise to provide, but the working model of fully distributed on-blockchain insurance company. After we have proof of concept we can apply it to multiple markets, like catastrophe bonds, flight, medical and other stuff. We have picked crypto exchanges as the first target just because this is a major problem for the most of the investors in the first round.

But I bet if we develop the prototype we'll have a queue of insurance companies lined up with offers to acquire all the intellectual property. And all investors will get pretty quick reward in case of acquisition.
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November 07, 2016, 10:48:45 PM
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Here is some food for thought for the ones who don't believe in the business model:

I think that the most valuable part of this project is not the initial insurance product we promise to provide, but the working model of fully distributed on-blockchain insurance company. After we have proof of concept we can apply it to multiple markets, like catastrophe bonds, flight, medical and other stuff. We have picked crypto exchanges as the first target just because this is a major problem for the most of the investors in the first round.

But I bet if we develop the prototype we'll have a queue of insurance companies lined up with offers to acquire all the intellectual property. And all investors will get pretty quick reward in case of acquisition.
Yes, being the first in decentralised insurance company gives it a lot of potential.

Only downside is that it will take a while to really get going and people in crypto are not known for their patience.

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November 08, 2016, 07:54:01 AM
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For now raised $197000.
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November 08, 2016, 11:46:14 AM
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we think it is a good company
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November 08, 2016, 11:47:08 AM
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10% bonus on investment is still oN. its not too late to invest. Insurance for crypto is a new concept and has solid future!
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November 08, 2016, 01:01:33 PM
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Here is some food for thought for the ones who don't believe in the business model:

I think that the most valuable part of this project is not the initial insurance product we promise to provide, but the working model of fully distributed on-blockchain insurance company. After we have proof of concept we can apply it to multiple markets, like catastrophe bonds, flight, medical and other stuff. We have picked crypto exchanges as the first target just because this is a major problem for the most of the investors in the first round.

I think the platform for creating the fully distributed on-blockchain insurance company exists already. As I wrote before, it's name is Augur. It has not been launched yet but it is in beta testing stage now. Augur + Voting Sytem + insurance fund = your business model. Not absolutely the same but very close. Any insurance company can try their strategies and run their business using the above approach. The so-called DAO is not necessary for the insurance companies to run their businesses. I don't think many of them will need it. To summarize, Augur + Money + Math model = insurance business on blockchain. Fully decentralized, transparent and trustless. Payments will be guaranteed to the clients by the smart contracts, insurance company won't be able to decline the payment for any reason.
The event resolution time can be as low as 3 days, not months.

Your platform will be different of course and will have its own advantages and disadvantages.

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But I bet if we develop the prototype we'll have a queue of insurance companies lined up with offers to acquire all the intellectual property. And all investors will get pretty quick reward in case of acquisition.

You are talking about the absolutely different business model. You mean you create the platform and sell it. There was no a single word about such an approach in your presentations. It's not what ICO investors expect I suppose. Real investors wait to receive the stable yearly profits from a working business and take decisions concerning the business management. They don't need one-time reward.
Actually, the DAO should take the decisions on acquisition or similar matters. I don't understand why you need the DAO if you are going to sell the company. At the same time I don't understand why people would like to participate in the DAO if it will be sold at the end. In general, I hardly imagine what acquisition may look like in the case of the DAO controlled structure. What if some DAO member won't wish to sell their shares (tokens)? What is some of them won't wish to loose control on the key management decisions?

The business model that can be built based on your offer is good and much better than the one described in your whitepaper. I didn't perform any calculations and can't say anything about the numbers. But developing the insurance platform, selling and supporting it may be a good business I suppose. In terms of the whole idea only, numbers should be considered too. Another advantage is that you won't need to develop the DAO part of the platform. Insurance companies can run their businesses without the DAO part I think.
Just develop the platform, sell it and support it. Unfortunately, your initial business model is absolutely different and includes running your own insurance business.

There's one more interesting point here. You are mentioning the intellectual property. AFAIK the smart contracts in Ethereum are visible to everybody and can be used by anyone. The core of your platform are smart contracts. How are you going to protect them from copying?

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November 08, 2016, 01:09:18 PM
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> $197k
> good

Pick one.

That's merely ~11% of the minimum goal, and the most attractive period to invest (20% discount) is over. I wish the Inchain team all the best, but things are not looking great. The only hope is that couple of whales will show up and save the day. But logic dictates that anyone who is interested has already invested in 20% discount period. Hope I'm wrong.

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November 08, 2016, 01:22:44 PM
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> $197k
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Pick one.

That's merely ~11% of the minimum goal, and the most attractive period to invest (20% discount) is over. I wish the Inchain team all the best, but things are not looking great. The only hope is that couple of whales will show up and save the day. But logic dictates that anyone who is interested has already invested in 20% discount period. Hope I'm wrong.

Agree, whales who wanted to invest would invest earlier, and 20% is a huge amount if huge deposit, but seems that 1.75 is hard now :/
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November 08, 2016, 01:23:55 PM
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About the business model.
In general I don't fully understand why you need the insurance products in your initial business model. Because the profits are generated by the investment ('insurance') fund. Simplified, the difference between the bond coupon and the fund performance is the company profit.
So why not just create the crypto investment fund and attract investors? I can assure you the demand is much higher than the supply at the market now. There are thousands of investors with millions of dollars waiting.
Probably you are hoping to collect more funds from the bonds and have a good investment fund performance. Maybe such approach can generate more profits. But did you perform any calculations? The answer is 'No'.

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November 08, 2016, 02:27:07 PM
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> $197k
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Pick one.

That's merely ~11% of the minimum goal, and the most attractive period to invest (20% discount) is over. I wish the Inchain team all the best, but things are not looking great. The only hope is that couple of whales will show up and save the day. But logic dictates that anyone who is interested has already invested in 20% discount period. Hope I'm wrong.

Agree, whales who wanted to invest would invest earlier, and 20% is a huge amount if huge deposit, but seems that 1.75 is hard now :/
Some people prefer to invest at the end of the ICO.
Recently Stratis was at around 150 BTC until one or two days before the ICO ended and another 750 BTC was invested with 0% bonus.

Funds are looking low now but its not too late yet (though it will be hard).

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November 08, 2016, 02:30:56 PM
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> $197k
> good

Pick one.

That's merely ~11% of the minimum goal, and the most attractive period to invest (20% discount) is over. I wish the Inchain team all the best, but things are not looking great. The only hope is that couple of whales will show up and save the day. But logic dictates that anyone who is interested has already invested in 20% discount period. Hope I'm wrong.

Agree, whales who wanted to invest would invest earlier, and 20% is a huge amount if huge deposit, but seems that 1.75 is hard now :/

Yes, whales invested, and with decreasing of bonus, they will unlikely invest more, 1.75 is very very difficult, I see impossible to hit that.
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