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October 21, 2016, 11:21:20 AM
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Hi, anybody could mention here how to buy zcash ?
Not possible yet. You'll have to wait for the launch on October 28th. However you can still bet on the price in the futures market over at bitmex. The way this works is that people short and others can then take those offers and long. On December 30th the market will be settled at the current market price. So if you believe the price is too low at 0.2 BTC, you could long now and then if the market price is 0.3 BTC on December 30th you'll have made 50% profit. Keep in mind that the market may fluctuate a lot in the meantime and you'll have a liquidation price, so there's a risk with the high volatility. You could add more funds to your account to maintain a better liquidation price though.
How can I create a Zcash wallet in windows environment or online and where from I can buy Zcash the fastest after October 28?
Quoting Zooko himself: "unfortunately we do not have the engineering capacity to support Windows and Mac for the 1.0 launch." [source]

So it seems your only alternative is to use linux to create a wallet (at least on launch). I imagine there will be plenty of exchanges adding zcash though, so you'll be able to buy and store it there until you figure out the wallet.
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Hi, anybody could mention here how to buy zcash ?

It might be listed in the Poloniex a few days after the release. There could be a pump soon after the list.


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It seems that ZEC integration with exchanges should be fairly straightforward since Zcash is fully based on Bitcoin. What will be interesting is when the exchanges support creating 'shielded' withdrawal transactions. If it takes a server 4GB of memory + 60 seconds of compute time on 4+ cores then the ability to do lots of shielded withdrawals is going to be very resource intensive. Someone has to pay for those resources, so I imagine that shielded withdrawal fees would be significant.

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October 22, 2016, 02:18:52 AM
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Zcash is launching on Oct 28th 2016

It's already traded as futures on bitmex. Currently the market has predicted that the price will be 0.2 BTC on December 30th 2016.

Since I couldn't find a speculation topic I'm creating one. Will keep moderation to a minimum (remove off-topic, spam etc)



Trading will start at .2 BTC per ZEC?  That's way too high and I would expect this to be sold down sooner or later.  Just think about it, this is a new project, there's no economy behind it, and from my research the trusted set up looks pretty doubtful to me.  If you're gonna trade this by all means do, but to hold it longterm and getting in at that price?  I'd rather wait and see what's in store for it.  Just my humble opinion.

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October 22, 2016, 03:08:04 AM
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Lets speculate on when the EPIC DUMP hits. Cheesy

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October 22, 2016, 07:11:27 AM
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Zcash now is the center of attention, a lot of members want to buy, but I wonder if they will buy for 0.2BTC, it is very expencive, but I think it will drop when miners start to work, I won't buy immediately, from other hand I watched an advertisment today on coinmarketcap for KOMODO platform, they are marketing themselves as a fork of Zcash, is there any relation or just they share the same anonymity feature?

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October 22, 2016, 07:59:14 AM
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Lets speculate on when the EPIC DUMP hits. Cheesy

Waiting to dump/short something that does not even exist yet. Not a promising expected start I would say.
However from past experience the opposite of what the majority expects happens.

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October 22, 2016, 11:16:02 AM
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Whether tech is legit or not, this will pump. You can speculate by buying cloud mining hashrate on genesis mining, they already increased their offering 6x from start.
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October 22, 2016, 01:14:00 PM
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Trading will start at .2 BTC per ZEC?  That's way too high and I would expect this to be sold down sooner or later.  Just think about it, this is a new project, there's no economy behind it, and from my research the trusted set up looks pretty doubtful to me.  If you're gonna trade this by all means do, but to hold it longterm and getting in at that price?  I'd rather wait and see what's in store for it.  Just my humble opinion.
Nobody knows what it will start trading at, however the futures market could be an indication. Right now the price is 0.18 BTC. Of course, when zcash launches there will be a lot of demand and almost zero supply. So it's not completely infeasible that trading will not only start at 0.2 BTC but go to 0.3 .. 0.5 .. 0.8 etc... It could get really crazy. In my opinion it won't last very long and will result in a long bear market shortly thereafter as more supply hits the exchanges. This isn't good for the coin either as people like growth and not everlasting bear markets.

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Whats the premine again? And don't the Devs skim off the block reward as well?

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Whats the premine again? And don't the Devs skim off the block reward as well?
There is no pre-mine, founders get 10% of all coins (2.1 million). The first 4 years they get 20% of the block reward. See chart

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Lets speculate on when the EPIC DUMP hits. Cheesy

Waiting to dump/short something that does not even exist yet. Not a promising expected start I would say.
However from past experience the opposite of what the majority expects happens.

I am with you. I also believe that the only way to short sell this is thru the cryptocoin derivatives market BitMex. So I specualte that there will not be a lot of short sellers in the beginning. But for the medium term expect we all have to expect it. 200 mBTC is such a very high price for a new and unproven cryptocoin.

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October 23, 2016, 10:20:26 AM
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There are chances of finding Zcash >0.2 BTC?

Yes. You can already buy them from me @ 0.3 BTC, they will be in your wallet within 5 working days.

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October 23, 2016, 10:39:11 AM
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There are chances of finding Zcash >0.2 BTC?

Yes. You can already buy them from me @ 0.3 BTC, they will be in your wallet within 5 working days.

Those are Test ZCash.
Real ZCash aren't even in the network yet.
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There are chances of finding Zcash >0.2 BTC?

Yes. You can already buy them from me @ 0.3 BTC, they will be in your wallet within 5 working days.

Those are Test ZCash.
Real ZCash aren't even in the network yet.

It is supposed to go live on the 28th of this month, correct?

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There are chances of finding Zcash >0.2 BTC?

Yes. You can already buy them from me @ 0.3 BTC, they will be in your wallet within 5 working days.

Those are Test ZCash.
Real ZCash aren't even in the network yet.

It is supposed to go live on the 28th of this month, correct?

I have it marked in my calendar for that date, so yes. I believe so.
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cant wait its come to exchnages to buy some...Wink

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cant wait its come to exchnages to buy some...Wink

I think it will be way to expensive at the beginning.
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everyone hating on zcash. may be shit, may not be. look at what happned to zcoin lol $$$$
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cant wait its come to exchnages to buy some...Wink

I think it will be way to expensive at the beginning.

I agree it will be way too expensive at the start especially now that fundamentals is driving the price of Bitcoin, I will wait till December when the full block reward will be out and more miners involved


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