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March 21, 2019, 07:38:30 PM |
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43% LTC lost 14% BTC lost why "%" ... goddammit! how many? really? fucking retards can't do basic subtraction anymore? how many were there? and how many are stolen? cryptopia is hiding something example: hacker: i stole 140 BTC so there should be 1000 BTC there (14% lost) cryptopia users: 14% haircut from my BTC balance my 10 BTC is now 8.6 BTC cryptopia pricks: 14% of 3000 BTC is 420 BTC cryptopia is pulling some mimblewimble and ring signature shit on users haha
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I also have to point out the irony in the conversation being that Cryptopia is too slow/taking too long, now they are being accused to moving to quickly?
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Please answer who knows. If the user of cryptopia did not cancel Open Orders on their own, but Open Orders were automatically canceled by cryptopia itself - the situation looks like this: in the Balances section, cryptocurrency is present in open orders, and in the section: "Exchange": there are no Open Orders (they are canceled by exchange, this is understandable), but the same in this section: "Exchange" instead of automatically closed Open Orders - there are no corresponding balances or even at least smaller ones. Will there be later coins relevant Open Orders from the section: "Balances" - also displayed in the section: "Exchange"?
Judging by the price action of LTC at least, there seems to have been trades with old orders which were set on old prices until someones made easy money buying the pre-pump price and then selling in market price. I calculated about 400 LTC being bought under market price. I also have to point out the irony in the conversation being that Cryptopia is too slow/taking too long, now they are being accused to moving to quickly?
It's not that they move quickly but that they do amateurish and stupid things. How can it be hard for them to cancel all open orders? Why do they allow trading but not depositing/withdrawing in the coins they enable?
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March 21, 2019, 10:36:10 PM |
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It's not that they move quickly but that they do amateurish and stupid things. How can it be hard for them to cancel all open orders? Why do they allow trading but not depositing/withdrawing in the coins they enable? So you're advocating Cryptopia closed users orders whether the users wanted it or not?
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March 22, 2019, 06:18:36 AM Last edit: March 22, 2019, 06:31:26 AM by sluppy |
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Please answer who knows. If the user of cryptopia did not cancel Open Orders on their own, but Open Orders were automatically canceled by cryptopia itself - the situation looks like this: in the Balances section, cryptocurrency is present in open orders, and in the section: "Exchange": there are no Open Orders (they are canceled by exchange, this is understandable), but the same in this section: "Exchange" instead of automatically closed Open Orders - there are no corresponding balances or even at least smaller ones. Will there be later coins relevant Open Orders from the section: "Balances" - also displayed in the section: "Exchange"?
Judging by the price action of LTC at least, there seems to have been trades with old orders which were set on old prices until someones made easy money buying the pre-pump price and then selling in market price. I calculated about 400 LTC being bought under market price. I also have to point out the irony in the conversation being that Cryptopia is too slow/taking too long, now they are being accused to moving to quickly?
It's not that they move quickly but that they do amateurish and stupid things. How can it be hard for them to cancel all open orders? Why do they allow trading but not depositing/withdrawing in the coins they enable? I cant believe its just stupidity and amateurishness there is way to much going "wrong" from the hack to where we are now it has been one big shit show.
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March 22, 2019, 04:18:18 PM |
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43% LTC lost 14% BTC lost why "%" ... goddammit! how many? really? fucking retards can't do basic subtraction anymore? how many were there? and how many are stolen? cryptopia is hiding something example: hacker: i stole 140 BTC so there should be 1000 BTC there (14% lost) cryptopia users: 14% haircut from my BTC balance my 10 BTC is now 8.6 BTC cryptopia pricks: 14% of 3000 BTC is 420 BTC cryptopia is pulling some mimblewimble and ring signature shit on users haha I think that if an exchange has a lack of seriousness and security in safeguarding the values of the customers who relied on it, then for those errors it is hacked, admitting in an official statement that no more that 9.4% of its funds were hacked and now it wants every customer pay for the exchange mistake with 14.05% of his BTC. If someone loses 9.4% and takes away from their customers 14%, this from my point of view is a SCAM. I also think that it is Scam, to give financial services without being economically backed by this type of theft. As soon as I can withdraw my money from there, I will never use that scamchange again. In the end I dont know who is more thief, if the hackers or the exchange, since they took more money than hackers stole.
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March 22, 2019, 04:30:34 PM |
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admitting in an official statement that no more that 9.4% of its funds were hacked and now it wants every customer pay for the exchange mistake with 14.05% of his BTC. If someone loses 9.4% and takes away from their customers 14%, this from my point of view is a SCAM. I also think that it is Scam, to give financial services without being economically backed by this type of theft.
It says "total" holdings, which probably includes a bunch of obscure coins with market caps in the four or five figures. Bit like a shop saying they lost 9.4% of their product in a robbery... that percentage doesn't really convey any useful information, because the value of each product is not equal. Don't forget ETH holders had a 100% haircut.
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March 22, 2019, 06:29:56 PM |
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From the first minute, this was a clear scam. Nobody can make me believe the other way. Shitopia is not nice...
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March 23, 2019, 12:44:39 AM |
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admitting in an official statement that no more that 9.4% of its funds were hacked and now it wants every customer pay for the exchange mistake with 14.05% of his BTC. If someone loses 9.4% and takes away from their customers 14%, this from my point of view is a SCAM. I also think that it is Scam, to give financial services without being economically backed by this type of theft.
It says "total" holdings, which probably includes a bunch of obscure coins with market caps in the four or five figures. Bit like a shop saying they lost 9.4% of their product in a robbery... that percentage doesn't really convey any useful information, because the value of each product is not equal. Don't forget ETH holders had a 100% haircut. These comments just show how you guys are even having to correct each other now... 9.4% of Total funds... 14.04% of BTC is included in the 9.4% of total funds. As is LTC, ETH and any other coins they discover to be affected while processing wallets. Playing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnHmskwqCCQ while reading these comments make this forum 100% better.
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March 23, 2019, 03:24:39 AM |
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I really hope you're not an official part of Cryptopia. If you are employed by them, you're doing more harm than good. Trolling customers who have lost money is a douchey move.
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March 23, 2019, 04:19:22 AM Last edit: March 23, 2019, 04:29:53 AM by four3200 |
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big fat LIE!They didn't figure out the missing funds for LTC and ETH after having the police in the house for 1 month! Then after the cops leave without an itemized list of missing funds. BenTheAnonMod and friends spend another month wondering if they should "process" the wallets. Sure. Any exchange that does not know how many of BTC and LTC and ETH that they have every hour on the hour is not secure nor professional. An exchange with "80" employees making the claim that they discovered the missing funds AFTER making an official statement is nonsense and only strengthens the opinion of the bad actor being the exchange house.
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March 23, 2019, 04:23:56 AM |
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big fat LIE!They didn't figure out the missing funds for LTC and ETH after having the police in the house for 1 month! Sure. Any exchange that does not know how many of BTC and LTC and ETH that they have every hour on the hour is not secure nor professional. An exchange with "80" employees making the claim that they discovered the missing funds AFTER making an official statement is nonsense and only strengthens the opinion of the bad actor being the exchange house. The police will make an announcement that BTC and LTC were affected as well in the 9.4% of Total funds, understandably they're busy with the recent mass shooting in Christchurch right now. See - https://twitter.com/notsofast/status/1108553195175981056User simply assumed that ONLY ETH/ERC20 had been affected, until Cryptopia secures each wallet they will not know the full extent of the funds affected.
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March 23, 2019, 04:55:32 AM |
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big fat LIE!They didn't figure out the missing funds for LTC and ETH after having the police in the house for 1 month! Sure. Any exchange that does not know how many of BTC and LTC and ETH that they have every hour on the hour is not secure nor professional. An exchange with "80" employees making the claim that they discovered the missing funds AFTER making an official statement is nonsense and only strengthens the opinion of the bad actor being the exchange house. The police will make an announcement that BTC and LTC were affected as well in the 9.4% of Total funds, understandably they're busy with the recent mass shooting in Christchurch right now. See - https://twitter.com/notsofast/status/1108553195175981056User simply assumed that ONLY ETH/ERC20 had been affected, until Cryptopia secures each wallet they will not know the full extent of the funds affected. meanwhile BenTheAnonMod is just around cryptopia's physical location, and it took someone from the community to share photos of the premises. I'm betting cryptopia is going to pull another rabbit out of the hat trick..spewing percentages instead of actual numbers, who the fuck talks like "the foxes ate 10% of my chickens" haha.............you say "foxes ate 10 chickens out of 100". even the hacker (if there is even one) cannot expose cryptopia if they are lying by declaring the loss as "percentage". of course the police will make a statement...the cookie crumbs were already laid in front of them hehe
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March 23, 2019, 05:28:52 AM Last edit: March 23, 2019, 06:22:19 AM by BenTheAnonMod |
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meanwhile BenTheAnonMod is just around cryptopia's physical location, and it took someone from the community to share photos of the premises.
I'm betting cryptopia is going to pull another rabbit out of the hat trick..spewing percentages instead of actual numbers, who the fuck talks like "the foxes ate 10% of my chickens" haha.............you say "foxes ate 10 chickens out of 100".
even the hacker (if there is even one) cannot expose cryptopia if they are lying by declaring the loss as "percentage".
of course the police will make a statement...the cookie crumbs were already laid in front of them hehe
https://i.imgur.com/hwHgVig.jpg
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March 23, 2019, 06:36:32 AM |
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Haha ffs LOL this is funny shit.
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March 23, 2019, 06:45:40 AM |
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I'm here as a user, interacting with other users and dispelling the FUD.
It has already been mentioned that Cryptopia does not monitor or respond here in official capacity.
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arielbit
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March 23, 2019, 07:56:47 AM |
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meanwhile BenTheAnonMod is just around cryptopia's physical location, and it took someone from the community to share photos of the premises.
I'm betting cryptopia is going to pull another rabbit out of the hat trick..spewing percentages instead of actual numbers, who the fuck talks like "the foxes ate 10% of my chickens" haha.............you say "foxes ate 10 chickens out of 100".
even the hacker (if there is even one) cannot expose cryptopia if they are lying by declaring the loss as "percentage".
of course the police will make a statement...the cookie crumbs were already laid in front of them hehe
doesn't amount to any as a matter of fact, cryptopia founders are not anonymous and a lot more scammers now in the crypto sphere are not anonymous...but i give you that ben (for the initiative) you are a good lap dog.
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March 23, 2019, 08:20:44 AM |
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Thanks mate.
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March 23, 2019, 02:41:39 PM |
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10% hard loss of funds. 10% to cover lost employee salary and downtime. 10% future possible hacks and losses. 10% to make the exchange better hackproof going forward. You should write a theorem The sum of the scam from the attack of the hack equals the stash of the cash times the size of the hash.
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