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Author Topic: [ANN] Zclassic, Zcash Fork No Premine, No 20% Founders Tax  (Read 339289 times)
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April 02, 2017, 07:15:30 AM
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So what is the story with Zclassic ? What is the ambition it strives towards to be better than Zcash ?

Everything seems a little slow going, any development ?
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April 03, 2017, 12:02:31 AM
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So what is the story with Zclassic ? What is the ambition it strives towards to be better than Zcash ?

Everything seems a little slow going, any development ?

I thought the basic story with Zclassic was that it's supposed to be just like Zcash but with the massive 20% "tax" removed.

Yep, right on the first page:

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Zclassic is a fork of Zcash 1.0.1 with minimal changes except for 2 major things.

1. 20% Founders Reward is removed.
2. Slow start is removed (blocks start at 12.5 ZCL rewards per block).

I can't answer your question, but maybe there isn't a need for a lot of development outside of porting all the Zcash stuff over.  Maybe without the 20% tax it's already better than Zcash.
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April 03, 2017, 11:31:06 AM
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seems we are go to $10...

I hope you are right !
We are still far from the realistic mark of 10% Zcash.
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April 03, 2017, 02:18:53 PM
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seems we are go to $10...
I hope you are right - but how are you basing this? I think it will get there someday, but I think it's going be a long haul to get there.
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April 03, 2017, 03:50:23 PM
Last edit: April 03, 2017, 04:10:24 PM by adolf512
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I hope you are right - but how are you basing this? I think it will get there someday, but I think it's going be a long haul to get there.
I expect below 1$ again, still i decided to keep the few zclassic i mined in the case i am wrong. With the high inflation a fall in price is very likely. I am trying to analyze this coin but it is pretty hard, it is a lot better than all cryptonote coins for sure but i do not think it is likely to replace btc.

Weaknesses
-lack of proper tail emission
-almost zero network effect atm.
-does not allow smart contracts.
-does not scale better than btc.

someone f***ng bastard press price 13860ZCL... Angry
Grin why do you even care, why dont you buy some more if the coin is good?

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April 03, 2017, 04:46:25 PM
Last edit: April 04, 2017, 02:16:39 PM by torig
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I hope you are right - but how are you basing this? I think it will get there someday, but I think it's going be a long haul to get there.
I expect below 1$ again, still i decided to keep the few zclassic i mined in the case i am wrong. With the high inflation a fall in price is very likely. I am trying to analyze this coin but it is pretty hard, it is a lot better than all cryptonote coins for sure but i do not think it is likely to replace btc.

Weaknesses
-lack of proper tail emission
-almost zero network effect atm.
-does not allow smart contracts.
-does not scale better than btc.


Grin why do you even care, why dont you buy some more if the coin is good?

all my BTC in the money...
if i have now free BTc i be bought this wall.
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April 03, 2017, 10:03:35 PM
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Does anyone know how to backup zclassic wallet eveytime I try either from the gui wallet or cli I get cannot backup wallet until the - exportdir option has been set and I tried entering that command and still didn't work

Turnoff of comodo/antivirus. My virsion was running in sandbox mode and i wount be able to backup
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April 04, 2017, 01:41:40 PM
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If you want to know more about the project ZEN (fork de Zclassic), here is an exclusive interview on our blog! Happy reading! Wink

Https://block-chain-invest.com/exclusive-interview-zen/


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April 04, 2017, 05:27:43 PM
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Hey guys, I see people running 2,000-17,000 sol/s on ZCL and am wondering what kind of setup these people have... I'm fairly new to the mining business. Also, electricity is 0 issue for me since I'm using my colleges utilities.
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April 04, 2017, 06:28:01 PM
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Hey guys, I see people running 2,000-17,000 sol/s on ZCL and am wondering what kind of setup these people have... I'm fairly new to the mining business. Also, electricity is 0 issue for me since I'm using my colleges utilities.

At the moment you can use Claymore's miner:

 Asus RX480 4GB ------> 275-280 H/s.


See this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1670733.13340
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April 04, 2017, 08:26:09 PM
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Hey guys, I see people running 2,000-17,000 sol/s on ZCL and am wondering what kind of setup these people have... I'm fairly new to the mining business. Also, electricity is 0 issue for me since I'm using my colleges utilities.

At the moment you can use Claymore's miner:

 Asus RX480 4GB ------> 275-280 H/s.


See this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1670733.13340

I'm confused on the hashrates, so on cryptobroker pool i make around 410 sol/s but on Supernova pool I make 348,000 sol/s... I was wondering if thats decent and how much I should seeing if I built a comp with 8 RX480's on it. I currently have an R9 sapphire 290x tri-x. Thanks
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April 06, 2017, 01:33:20 PM
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zpool.crypto.ba

Join us in mining ZCL ZDASH and later ZENCASH


ZCL port       3032
ZDASH port  3035


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April 08, 2017, 05:42:59 AM
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A L I E N, you said: "PM me a Z-address and I'll try to send you 1 zcl from my Z-address just to make sure."

So no need to do it in MP, I have nothing to hide.

I gave you my Zclassic address, and now try to send me.

If I receive it, and you have put the correct address, I post here a screenshot of my wallet with your address as sender.

What do not you understand?


we become fully aware and understand over it and now  i am ready for further working over it.

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April 08, 2017, 07:06:55 AM
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miningspeed now also has zclassic pool!:

0% fee
payment from 0,1 balance
TLS support for claymores and others
No registration requiered, so anonymous mining
Dedicated port for nicehash

join us at http://zclassic.miningspeed.com

or come and join our chat:
https://gitter.im/miningspeed
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April 08, 2017, 02:02:27 PM
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Isn’t it weird that Zcash is promoting itself for having no premine, no founders tax, nothing scamming or fishy. Isn’t that suppose to be what all altcoins should do? I know they don’t do it but it is like promoting being a good person, that is the default, “not scamming people” is the default option, or at least should be.
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April 09, 2017, 06:03:10 AM
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If you want to know more about the project ZEN (fork de Zclassic), here is an exclusive interview on our blog! Happy reading! Wink

Https://block-chain-invest.com/exclusive-interview-zen/



so zclassic forked from zcash andn ow zen is forking from zclasic? So why invest in zclassic now

http://block-chain-invest.com/exclusive-interview-zen/
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The people often think that Z classic is only a copy of Zcash. Since the launch of the windows wallet, only a few development has been done on the Z classic project. Is there a risk that Z classic project might be abandoned for the Zen project ?(when we look at its development we have the impression that it has been slowing down since 2 months)

That’s a fair question and the reality is that our combined resources have tilted towards Zen recently to prepare for launch next month. There’s a ton of work to complete in a compressed .

I dont follow this zen/zec/zcl much but isnt this a bad news for zcl? Why would price rise?


 
 
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April 10, 2017, 03:40:33 AM
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i hav sold all my ZCL (ZEC clone)  for BTC and bought EXCL with it (DASH clone) lets see how it goes.

yolo
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April 10, 2017, 07:00:04 AM
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will ZEN/ZCL swap be available if coins are stored on Bittrex? do we have confirmation on this?
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April 11, 2017, 01:13:29 AM
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Hi,

I'm trying to migrate to the latest windows wallet from an old Ubuntu wallet.

Is copying the old wallet.dat and the zclassic.conf to “C:\Users\USERNAME\AppData\Roaming\Zclassic\” enough?

TIA
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April 11, 2017, 06:40:23 AM
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If you want to know more about the project ZEN (fork de Zclassic), here is an exclusive interview on our blog! Happy reading! Wink

Https://block-chain-invest.com/exclusive-interview-zen/



so zclassic forked from zcash andn ow zen is forking from zclasic? So why invest in zclassic now

http://block-chain-invest.com/exclusive-interview-zen/
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The people often think that Z classic is only a copy of Zcash. Since the launch of the windows wallet, only a few development has been done on the Z classic project. Is there a risk that Z classic project might be abandoned for the Zen project ?(when we look at its development we have the impression that it has been slowing down since 2 months)

That’s a fair question and the reality is that our combined resources have tilted towards Zen recently to prepare for launch next month. There’s a ton of work to complete in a compressed .

I dont follow this zen/zec/zcl much but isnt this a bad news for zcl? Why would price rise?



I think the biggest problem for these projects is displayed in this chart.  It shows how common each letter of the English language is:



There simply aren't enough Z's in the english language to go around.

Just look at the issues with ticker symbol alone.. they all have to start with Z. So, assuming we limit it to three characters we get 26*26 = 676 total possible 3 character tickers that start with Z (many unusable, e.g., "ZIT"). And there are already 16 coins that start with Z on coinmarketcap.  Zcash launched about 5 months ago, and we know it has spawned at least 2 of these Z coins, or a 200% increase if we look at it by itself.  At this rate it won't belong before all Z tickers and Z related words are exhausted causing the entire market for Z coins to collapse. You've been warned.  Wink
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