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April 12, 2014, 04:31:59 PM
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Forget ASICs!!!

This is the cudaminer thread, enlightened people post here, not sheep. :p lol

We have multi-algo asics available now, they are called GTX 750 Ti, and manufactured by many vendors, available worldwide courtesy of NVIDIA.

how do you mine ppc?
what is ppc ?

[a href='http://www.peercoin.net/']Peercoin[/a]. I believe it is an X11 coin, and as such, is not supported yet by CUDAminer. Or did it miss the release?

PPC is sha256, and it's a really old alt coin...you can't mine sha256 profitably with all the HUGE asic manufacturer's and cartel friends' farms.

If I may make the nerdy comparison, but GPUs are the Dragonborn of mining, capped at, let's say 80, and ASICS are those Skyrim players who only play one style (let's go with one-handed weaponry), and have those skills at a 100. Sure, the specialists are better at hacking'n'slashing, but when that becomes unprofitable, the GPUs can switch the swinging magic and alchemy, while the specialists are stuck with nothing.

And you're right about PPcoin, I read the wikipedia page too fast for my own good.

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April 12, 2014, 04:54:24 PM
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Forget ASICs!!!

This is the cudaminer thread, enlightened people post here, not sheep. :p lol

We have multi-algo asics available now, they are called GTX 750 Ti, and manufactured by many vendors, available worldwide courtesy of NVIDIA.

how do you mine ppc?
what is ppc ?

[a href='http://www.peercoin.net/']Peercoin[/a]. I believe it is an X11 coin, and as such, is not supported yet by CUDAminer. Or did it miss the release?

PPC is sha256, and it's a really old alt coin...you can't mine sha256 profitably with all the HUGE asic manufacturer's and cartel friends' farms.

If I may make the nerdy comparison, but GPUs are the Dragonborn of mining, capped at, let's say 80, and ASICS are those Skyrim players who only play one style (let's go with one-handed weaponry), and have those skills at a 100. Sure, the specialists are better at hacking'n'slashing, but when that becomes unprofitable, the GPUs can switch the swinging magic and alchemy, while the specialists are stuck with nothing.

And you're right about PPcoin, I read the wikipedia page too fast for my own good.
yep I confirm, that was nerdy  Grin Is it ok to make nerdy comment on a geeky thread ? well I don't know

I was mining the other day with my USB asic (300MB/h... bought by mistake 50euros... not much, but will never pay for itself) SHAcoin,
I went to the launch expecting a few block, then read the forum some guy "am in, I'll point 4TH/s" ... right... I got a few orphans...
(it was shacoin... I got by the end of the distribution about 1000, knowing the block size is 10000)

The problem, beside that, with sha 256, there is just a few coins (well, the problem with scrypt, is that there are too many), so buying an asic doing only scrypt, I am not sure it is the best idea...
 

So I guess, you will be mining BlackDragon ?

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April 12, 2014, 07:06:57 PM
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@ivanlabrie I want to add 2 800 series cards later and start with 3 750ti now so i need 5 slots. I have seen too many people struggle with 6 and only few getting it right so i dont want 6 cards in my rig. Thanks for your suggestions.

Anyone please suggest the brand for 750ti like MSI/EVGA/Gigabyte/Asus etc. I want non 6-pin cards.
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April 12, 2014, 07:13:52 PM
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@ivanlabrie I want to add 2 800 series cards later and start with 3 750ti now so i need 5 slots. I have seen too many people struggle with 6 and only few getting it right so i dont want 6 cards in my rig. Thanks for your suggestions.

Anyone please suggest the brand for 750ti like MSI/EVGA/Gigabyte/Asus etc. I want non 6-pin cards.

The z87 g45 will run 5 cards without a problem, but you'll need risers, the EVGA X79 Dark will run 5 cards without risers (and support a beast 2011 hexa core cpu, so you can get a cutting edge gaming machine while at it).
GB Z87X-OC supports 4 gpus without risers and you can add a fifth using one too.

If you're gonna use risers you can get away with 6 gpus without a problem with the z87 g45, here's a screenshot of it running 6 gtx 750 ti mining yac:

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April 12, 2014, 07:15:31 PM
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@ivanlabrie I want to add 2 800 series cards later and start with 3 750ti now so i need 5 slots. I have seen too many people struggle with 6 and only few getting it right so i dont want 6 cards in my rig. Thanks for your suggestions.

Anyone please suggest the brand for 750ti like MSI/EVGA/Gigabyte/Asus etc. I want non 6-pin cards.

Mostly everyone will recomend what they use. I use msi 750ti gaming oc editions. They overclock well, and perform well for a decent price point. And they require no extra 6pin power.

The psu i would say 1000w for headroom if anything else. The 880 is rumoured to use 230w but uses the old chipset. They may release new maxwell low powered ones but who knows. So the more power to leave the better.

You want a fully modular good quality psu; dont skimp on it. Fry your psu and you may fry the entire system. You want somethibg with plenty of perihperal slots, be it sata or molex as risers can run off both (with adapters included with most)

And something with atleast 2 sets of 8pin psu cables; to allow for high power 800 series cards. I know my rm1000 which i bought a few weeks back supports 6 sets of peripherals atleast, so 6 gpus on molex or sata. Plus stupid amounts of gpu ppwer sockets.

It supports the corsair link, well a cut down version that tells you 12v current usage and fan speed. But i havent had the card long enough or used it to say "yeh i guarantee it" so what ever you get will be pot luck but the rm seriers do have 5 year warranties so aslong as you stick to guidelines you should be good.

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April 12, 2014, 07:23:07 PM
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So I will decide on base of price and extra molex connectors om MB as all these boards are pretty much same. Extra power to MB will be helpful when not using risers.

Thanks for your thoughts ivanlabrie, bigjme. Now I guess I am ready to get this done before Edgecoin release. Thanks to all who contributed. I will definately send some love your way as soon as i get mining with this rig. Smiley
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April 12, 2014, 07:23:28 PM
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I am going to sleep now GN all
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April 12, 2014, 07:40:51 PM
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So Logicoin is launching in 30 mins.... I don't suppose cudaminer will be working for X11 anytime today?  Grin
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April 12, 2014, 07:42:21 PM
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the EVGA X79 Dark will run 5 cards without risers
lole? wasted 400$ but 5 cards will not enter anyway Smiley
U are n00b and major maybe? 750 ti is a 2-slot card, better run your "geforce experience" and enjoy.
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April 12, 2014, 07:58:02 PM
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the EVGA X79 Dark will run 5 cards without risers
lole? wasted 400$ but 5 cards will not enter anyway Smiley
U are n00b and major maybe? 750 ti is a 2-slot card, better run your "geforce experience" and enjoy.

You can fit the reference 1 slot cards there and the extra dual 880 cards no prob...

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April 12, 2014, 08:01:01 PM
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the EVGA X79 Dark will run 5 cards without risers
lole? wasted 400$ but 5 cards will not enter anyway Smiley
U are n00b and major maybe? 750 ti is a 2-slot card, better run your "geforce experience" and enjoy.

You can fit the reference 1 slot cards there and the extra dual 880 cards no prob...
Oh, I'm sorry. I am a n00b too, of course, you can throw out the cooling system, to saw off a hacksaw half trims and load it all into the tank with distilled water, and only then for a paltry 400$ + 100 gallon tank without fish + freezer
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April 12, 2014, 08:20:59 PM
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So Logicoin is launching in 30 mins.... I don't suppose cudaminer will be working for X11 anytime today?  Grin

Think in a 1-2 weeks timeframe. We're lacking a couple more hash functions still before we can do X11.

BTW 3 780Ti cards now mine Animecoin at 18.5 MHash/s. Wink Expect similar performance for all Quark based coins.

We still aim for more.

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April 12, 2014, 08:35:46 PM
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Christian, I suspect you don't like single coin algos, but I'm sad you never messed around with Momentum (PTS), especially as a Kepler owner.  Sad
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April 12, 2014, 08:41:44 PM
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Christian, I suspect you don't like single coin algos, but I'm sad you never messed around with Momentum (PTS), especially as a Kepler owner.  Sad

DGA (Dave Andersen) has done a Momentum (ProtoShares) miner in CUDA. It's a memory hard problem, and as such you can't expect great speed-ups from a GPU.
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April 13, 2014, 12:49:27 AM
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So Logicoin is launching in 30 mins.... I don't suppose cudaminer will be working for X11 anytime today?  Grin

Think in a 1-2 weeks timeframe. We're lacking a couple more hash functions still before we can do X11.

BTW 3 780Ti cards now mine Animecoin at 18.5 MHash/s. Wink Expect similar performance for all Quark based coins.

We still aim for more.

Christian

Just wondering, is there still all these startup parameters per card or does it autotune that?

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April 13, 2014, 01:39:49 AM
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So Logicoin is launching in 30 mins.... I don't suppose cudaminer will be working for X11 anytime today?  Grin

Think in a 1-2 weeks timeframe. We're lacking a couple more hash functions still before we can do X11.

BTW 3 780Ti cards now mine Animecoin at 18.5 MHash/s. Wink Expect similar performance for all Quark based coins.

We still aim for more.

Christian

Just wondering, is there still all these startup parameters per card or does it autotune that?
you don't need to tune ccminer

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April 13, 2014, 10:34:23 AM
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ok guys so groestl and hvc are no longer profitable. are we due a new profitability sheet? Smiley

Ooo and here's something interesting, now i have proper tracking in ccminer here is what it looks like after 2 days


no idea why it is hashing at such low minimum values but the average seems pretty good. that's with 1500 shares per card

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April 13, 2014, 11:04:05 AM
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ok guys so groestl and hvc are no longer profitable. are we due a new profitability sheet? Smiley

Ooo and here's something interesting, now i have proper tracking in ccminer here is what it looks like after 2 days


no idea why it is hashing at such low minimum values but the average seems pretty good. that's with 1500 shares per card
looks good.
I think the minimum comes from rejected share (already noticed things like that) or value at start up.
May be it would be better to register min and max value after a few minutes of running to avoid that sort of bias

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April 13, 2014, 11:08:55 AM
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looks good.
I think the minimum comes from rejected share (already noticed things like that) or value at start up.
May be it would be better to register min and max value after a few minutes of running to avoid that sort of bias

those values appeared over a day after launch  Huh

their all accepted shares as i have had no shares rejected, and it only stores shares that were sent, so the shares were accepted at that low rate

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April 13, 2014, 11:15:37 AM
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looks good.
I think the minimum comes from rejected share (already noticed things like that) or value at start up.
May be it would be better to register min and max value after a few minutes of running to avoid that sort of bias

those values appeared over a day after launch  Huh

their all accepted shares as i have had no shares rejected, and it only stores shares that were sent, so the shares were accepted at that low rate
several shares in a small time interval may-be (notice from time to time when 2 shares are accepted in a small time interval the rate is divided by two... but on dwarfpool the vardiff is too high to have this sort of things)

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