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cbuchner1 (OP)
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March 31, 2014, 07:27:43 PM |
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FC/BTC market added to https://exarena.netand soon also on newaltex.com (I voted with my feet, ermm wallet) Christian |
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liomojo1
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March 31, 2014, 07:29:03 PM |
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Last chance to vote vor FC... It's currently in 2nd place only...
you think cryptoaltex is the right exchange for fc? look at the daily trade amount... is that exchange at all? same can be said about nxt-e  A small step for a coin, but a giant leap for coinkind. +1 |
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ivanlabrie
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March 31, 2014, 07:34:54 PM |
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Bitleu, the Romanian coin is Asics proof . It is scrypt-Jane with variable N factor.
Scrypt-Jane with variable N factor, so... Scrypt with variable N factor with variable N factor??? Scrypt-jane doesn't mean it has a variable N factor...could be fixed and it would still be some form of scrypt with chacha as mixing function. |
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cbuchner1 (OP)
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March 31, 2014, 07:37:06 PM |
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Scrypt-jane doesn't mean it has a variable N factor...could be fixed and it would still be some form of scrypt with chacha as mixing function.
in practice most jane coins are just forks of Yacoin, copying the formula for progressive N and only varying the start time and possible the nmin and nmax parameters. In my opinion, all these coins progress too slowly to really fend off ASICs in the long tern... Christian |
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ivanlabrie
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March 31, 2014, 07:41:41 PM |
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Scrypt-jane doesn't mean it has a variable N factor...could be fixed and it would still be some form of scrypt with chacha as mixing function.
in practice most jane coins are just forks of Yacoin, copying the formula for progressive N and only varying the start time and possible the nmin and nmax parameters. In my opinion, all these coins progress too slowly to really fend off ASICs in the long tern... Christian You think so? Only way I can imagine it being feasible is make an asic with more than enough ram for a few n factor changes and then add more ram for the next gen. |
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jsamul
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March 31, 2014, 07:42:37 PM |
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Last chance to vote vor FC... It's currently in 2nd place only...
you think cryptoaltex is the right exchange for fc? look at the daily trade amount... is that exchange at all? same can be said about nxt-e A small step for a coin, but a giant leap for coinkind. that is why i have never used nxt-e or ptopex.com neither will i use cryptoaltex... one day the coin makes it to some real exchange, till then just mine and hold. just hope those wouldbe exhanges wont ruin the coin. |
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djm34
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March 31, 2014, 08:01:01 PM |
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1st of April seems to be such a bad time to launch a coin (... when already many coins look like bad jokes on normal day...) |
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cbuchner1 (OP)
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March 31, 2014, 08:17:49 PM |
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Only way I can imagine it being feasible is make an asic with more than enough ram for a few n factor changes and then add more ram for the next gen.
LOOKUP_GAP also works in ASICs ... in principle |
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christian1980
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March 31, 2014, 08:26:57 PM |
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I ordered 10 gridseeds for playing...
I have a contact Person in Hongkong who will send them much cheaper as
this stupid eBay or groupbuy prices.
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ivanlabrie
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March 31, 2014, 08:43:59 PM |
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Only way I can imagine it being feasible is make an asic with more than enough ram for a few n factor changes and then add more ram for the next gen.
LOOKUP_GAP also works in ASICs ... in principle You think I can adjust lookup gap with a knc titan for instance? |
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cbuchner1 (OP)
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March 31, 2014, 08:57:53 PM |
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You think I can adjust lookup gap with a knc titan for instance?
no, but with a specially designed (futureproof) Scrypt-N ASIC. It's absolutely possible to design one. and this is why I don't like people claiming that Scrypt-N is ASIC-proof. Nothing is ASIC-proof. Christian |
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ivanlabrie
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March 31, 2014, 09:39:47 PM |
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You think I can adjust lookup gap with a knc titan for instance?
no, but with a specially designed (futureproof) Scrypt-N ASIC. It's absolutely possible to design one. and this is why I don't like people claiming that Scrypt-N is ASIC-proof. Nothing is ASIC-proof. Christian You'd still get a performance hit...and high n factors would take a gazillion gb's, ram wise. It's gonna be expensive to build it, even if it can do LG. |
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djm34
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March 31, 2014, 09:43:41 PM |
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I am looking into some new coin which should launch tonight (Madcowcoin: POS+3%premine+IPO (unsuccessul so far... so the dev might just run away with 0.1btc without launching the coin  ) It is a scrypt-jane Nmin=5 and Nmax=30. We don't have a start time (for now)... What could be used as starttime so that at launch the miners uses N=5 ? (I assume the starttime is just a way to schedule the change of N factor, I may be wrong though...) |
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March 31, 2014, 11:19:03 PM |
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Nothing is ASIC-proof.
Exactly, so many people lose sight of the fact that ASIC is an acronym. Application Specific Integrated Circuit Very specifically means it's an Integrated Circuit for Specific Application... The only reason a coin/algo/mix will ever be "ASIC Proof" is if it flops so hard no one ever even began to care for it and thus never was worth thinking about how to build the IC for it.  |
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March 31, 2014, 11:54:41 PM |
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I ordered 10 gridseeds for playing...
I have a contact Person in Hongkong who will send them much cheaper as
this stupid eBay or groupbuy prices.
Are you willing to share the contact info or a link to purchase? |
Jump you fuckers! | The thing about smart motherfuckers is they sound like crazy motherfuckers to dumb motherfuckers. | My sig space for rent for 0.01 btc per week.
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djm34
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April 01, 2014, 12:29:35 AM |
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if you wait one year you'll get them for 50 dollars...
At least it is one advantage of the gpu over the asic, it is always possible to resell them...
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dga
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April 01, 2014, 12:30:05 AM |
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You think I can adjust lookup gap with a knc titan for instance?
no, but with a specially designed (futureproof) Scrypt-N ASIC. It's absolutely possible to design one. and this is why I don't like people claiming that Scrypt-N is ASIC-proof. Nothing is ASIC-proof. Christian +This. How many miner devs does it take all saying the same thing before people will believe it? :-) Implementing nearly any algorithm on an ASIC is merely a matter of time and money. The hardware surrounding that ASIC may look more (lots of RAM) or less (entirely in SRAM) like a general purpose computer, but for anything you can imagine, there will always be some efficiency gap from a CPU to an ASIC that, if the money is right, will incent someone to do it. |
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lagur
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April 01, 2014, 03:07:35 AM |
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The new cgminer-heavycoin made some nice boost...
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cbuchner1 (OP)
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April 01, 2014, 06:46:06 AM |
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The new cgminer-heavycoin made some nice boost...
don't make me depressive. |
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