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S_tring
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June 27, 2014, 09:12:00 AM |
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Hey folks - we should respond to these questions regarding tsiv's bounty: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=656841.msg7536834#msg7536834I would like to comment briefly on awarding the bounty since I am responsible for the largest pledge (I think).
From what I have seen, tsiv should receive a bounty payment. I'm not sure he should receive the full amount quite yet. (Though I am also not saying he should not.)
I would like to hear public comments on the following points before reaching a conclusion.
My criteria for awarding the bounty are:
1. Quality. Is the miner 100% reliable, or does it crash or hang?
2. Compatibility. Does the miner support a full range of operating systems, hardware devices (limited to the specified family -- AMD or NV), and drivers? Hardware, operating systems, or drivers which lack some essential features for acceptable performance can be excluded, as can obviously obsolete ones.
3. Open source, maintainability. Is the code provided in a full open source manner, such that others can contribute improvements? Is it well documented, well organized, and easy to understand?
4. Performance. Does the mine provided competitive performance (i.e. does it make sense to actually use it).
100% perfection on every one of these points is not necessary or practical -- certainly not to receive a partial bounty. These are guidelines for evaluation, not specific requirements.
If there are significant deficiencies in any or all of these areas, then the original developer should have the opportunity to address them in order to qualify for the full bounty. Failing that, others may contribute improvements to claim part of the bounty.
I would like to hear substantive comments from any stakeholders or community members addressing these points.
To be fair, Tsiv's miner does not satisfy point 1. I have found it locks up my 5 card rig in both Windows 8.1 and Ubuntu.
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djm34
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June 27, 2014, 09:13:10 AM |
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someone stupid released through the dev an AMD version already (without source)... He should have waited 2 days (after the launch of the second x15 coin . anyhow... I tried to program a crude ccminer version (once I was done with the amd implementation it took 1 hours, however the coin had been already launched since 3 hours... I wanted to add the nvidia as someone had a larger hashrate than me on hashharder ), but cuda doesn't seem to like much whirlpool and those 7 big uint64_t vectors with 256 entries... and what I got runs like crap. The 780ti isn't doing much more than 1Mh/s (the R9 3Mh/s) but with gpu usage all over the place... (power usage has never been so low...) I guess it is time to get back to normal coin (with the current reward... it doesn't make much sense anymore...)
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th00ber
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June 27, 2014, 09:18:02 AM |
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Hey folks - we should respond to these questions regarding tsiv's bounty: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=656841.msg7536834#msg7536834I would like to comment briefly on awarding the bounty since I am responsible for the largest pledge (I think).
From what I have seen, tsiv should receive a bounty payment. I'm not sure he should receive the full amount quite yet. (Though I am also not saying he should not.)
I would like to hear public comments on the following points before reaching a conclusion.
My criteria for awarding the bounty are:
1. Quality. Is the miner 100% reliable, or does it crash or hang?
2. Compatibility. Does the miner support a full range of operating systems, hardware devices (limited to the specified family -- AMD or NV), and drivers? Hardware, operating systems, or drivers which lack some essential features for acceptable performance can be excluded, as can obviously obsolete ones.
3. Open source, maintainability. Is the code provided in a full open source manner, such that others can contribute improvements? Is it well documented, well organized, and easy to understand?
4. Performance. Does the mine provided competitive performance (i.e. does it make sense to actually use it).
100% perfection on every one of these points is not necessary or practical -- certainly not to receive a partial bounty. These are guidelines for evaluation, not specific requirements.
If there are significant deficiencies in any or all of these areas, then the original developer should have the opportunity to address them in order to qualify for the full bounty. Failing that, others may contribute improvements to claim part of the bounty.
I would like to hear substantive comments from any stakeholders or community members addressing these points.
To be fair, Tsiv's miner does not satisfy point 1. I have found it locks up my 5 card rig in both Windows 8.1 and Ubuntu. 2 rigs of 6 750ti, no problems with tsiv version on linux https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=656841.msg7542859#msg7542859
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S_tring
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June 27, 2014, 09:33:47 AM |
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@th00ber I know it works for some, but many others report that it doesn't. It needs fine tuned, then they have no excuse to deny the bounty based on quality.
I hope he does get the bounty, because without people like him we have nothing to mine.
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djm34
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June 27, 2014, 09:41:23 AM Last edit: June 27, 2014, 09:55:49 AM by djm34 |
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@th00ber I know it works for some, but many others report that it doesn't. It needs fine tuned, then they have no excuse to deny the bounty based on quality.
I hope he does get the bounty, because without people like him we have nothing to mine.
He should get the bounty, because he released an open source version of the miner. The quality concerns has nothing to do with anything. The open source allows others to work on it and improve it. It hasn't to be perfect, it has to work and that's it (all it is needed to have it working is already in there... So if they refuse, then they are just full of **** and they will probably found excuses for every bounty they promised anyone who would release something of quality would most likely use tsiv work... and wouldn't deserve that bounty (except Christian because he has his own code... and nobody doubt that )
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PVmining
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June 27, 2014, 09:44:56 AM |
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To be fair, Tsiv's miner does not satisfy point 1. I have found it locks up my 5 card rig in both Windows 8.1 and Ubuntu.
3 rigs (17x 750ti's) working without further problems here (linux/kopiemtu). Three different kind of cards, some of them OC... two types of mainboards...
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Bombadil
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June 27, 2014, 10:03:30 AM |
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someone stupid released through the dev an AMD version already (without source)... He should have waited 2 days (after the launch of the second x15 coin . anyhow... I tried to program a crude ccminer version (once I was done with the amd implementation it took 1 hours, however the coin had been already launched since 3 hours... I wanted to add the nvidia as someone had a larger hashrate than me on hashharder ), but cuda doesn't seem to like much whirlpool and those 7 big uint64_t vectors with 256 entries... and what I got runs like crap. The 780ti isn't doing much more than 1Mh/s (the R9 3Mh/s) but with gpu usage all over the place... (power usage has never been so low...) I guess it is time to get back to normal coin (with the current reward... it doesn't make much sense anymore...) You could publicly release that what you've already got ^^' Maybe tsiv, christian or someone else (I'll take a look at it :p ) can improve that
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djm34
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June 27, 2014, 10:04:55 AM |
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someone stupid released through the dev an AMD version already (without source)... He should have waited 2 days (after the launch of the second x15 coin . anyhow... I tried to program a crude ccminer version (once I was done with the amd implementation it took 1 hours, however the coin had been already launched since 3 hours... I wanted to add the nvidia as someone had a larger hashrate than me on hashharder ), but cuda doesn't seem to like much whirlpool and those 7 big uint64_t vectors with 256 entries... and what I got runs like crap. The 780ti isn't doing much more than 1Mh/s (the R9 3Mh/s) but with gpu usage all over the place... (power usage has never been so low...) I guess it is time to get back to normal coin (with the current reward... it doesn't make much sense anymore...) You could publicly release that what you've already got ^^' Maybe tsiv, christian or someone else (I'll take a look at it :p ) can improve that I am too ashamed to release that piece of crap (and at the moment, it runs within -a x13)
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Bombadil
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June 27, 2014, 10:06:55 AM |
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someone stupid released through the dev an AMD version already (without source)... He should have waited 2 days (after the launch of the second x15 coin . anyhow... I tried to program a crude ccminer version (once I was done with the amd implementation it took 1 hours, however the coin had been already launched since 3 hours... I wanted to add the nvidia as someone had a larger hashrate than me on hashharder ), but cuda doesn't seem to like much whirlpool and those 7 big uint64_t vectors with 256 entries... and what I got runs like crap. The 780ti isn't doing much more than 1Mh/s (the R9 3Mh/s) but with gpu usage all over the place... (power usage has never been so low...) I guess it is time to get back to normal coin (with the current reward... it doesn't make much sense anymore...) You could publicly release that what you've already got ^^' Maybe tsiv, christian or someone else (I'll take a look at it :p ) can improve that I am too ashamed to release that piece of crap Someone has an honor to uphold It doesn't matter if it's crap or not, that's the beauty of opensource, someone else can take your code and produce something nice with just a few tweaks you overlooked
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djm34
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June 27, 2014, 10:22:25 AM |
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someone stupid released through the dev an AMD version already (without source)... He should have waited 2 days (after the launch of the second x15 coin . anyhow... I tried to program a crude ccminer version (once I was done with the amd implementation it took 1 hours, however the coin had been already launched since 3 hours... I wanted to add the nvidia as someone had a larger hashrate than me on hashharder ), but cuda doesn't seem to like much whirlpool and those 7 big uint64_t vectors with 256 entries... and what I got runs like crap. The 780ti isn't doing much more than 1Mh/s (the R9 3Mh/s) but with gpu usage all over the place... (power usage has never been so low...) I guess it is time to get back to normal coin (with the current reward... it doesn't make much sense anymore...) You could publicly release that what you've already got ^^' Maybe tsiv, christian or someone else (I'll take a look at it :p ) can improve that I am too ashamed to release that piece of crap Someone has an honor to uphold It doesn't matter if it's crap or not, that's the beauty of opensource, someone else can take your code and produce something nice with just a few tweaks you overlooked I will see, but I need to fix the code first, because right now, it runs at half the speed, I was getting before I started to tweak it... (actually I was expecting to use the shared memory, but for some reason it was returning only fugue512 tables...
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dotvibe
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June 27, 2014, 11:19:36 AM |
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Maybe if Christian could release his source for RouletteCoin - even if uncompleted?
That would probably help us a step in the right direction.
I can get the whirlpool algo kinda working, but am totally stuck on shabal.
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djm34
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June 27, 2014, 11:26:06 AM |
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Maybe if Christian could release his source for RouletteCoin - even if uncompleted?
That would probably help us a step in the right direction.
I can get the whirlpool algo kinda working, but am totally stuck on shabal.
shabal works pretty much out of the (opencl) box may-be we can trade a shabal for a whirlpool ?
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cayars
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June 27, 2014, 11:48:36 AM |
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Maybe if Christian could release his source for RouletteCoin - even if uncompleted?
That would probably help us a step in the right direction.
I can get the whirlpool algo kinda working, but am totally stuck on shabal.
shabal works pretty much out of the (opencl) box may-be we can trade a shabal for a whirlpool ? Sounds like nerds trying to play poker. I'll see your shabal and raise you a whirlpool.
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bigjme
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June 27, 2014, 11:51:34 AM |
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I know, I say i am a nerd but jeese Ahh im only joking. I really should start looking into these algorithms and start programming some up but i get back from work and im sure i blank out till its stupidly late, time just flies by Steam summer sale cost me a load already and i havent even had time to boot up a single game **pulls hair out**
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RavenXBR
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June 27, 2014, 12:12:36 PM |
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cudamining.cc is finally back up after lots of messing about
Nice, thx. Hashrate info needs to be be update.
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bigjme
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June 27, 2014, 12:26:16 PM |
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On the releases page? Yeh i think i may tie that to the configs that have been posted so if a faster config is posted it will use the latest data
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cayars
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June 27, 2014, 12:40:56 PM |
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On the releases page? Yeh i think i may tie that to the configs that have been posted so if a faster config is posted it will use the latest data
How about adding under ccminer: Diamond-Groestl AnimeCoin And adding some speeds for cudaminer.
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bigjme
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June 27, 2014, 12:43:22 PM |
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Gladly will if anyone wants to send me the data for it. Bare in mind i have 750Ti's results there
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djm34
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June 27, 2014, 01:09:57 PM |
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lol, I have entered compilation of doom.... for some reason cicc.exe is compiling since half an hour and use almost 2Gb of ram
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