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Author Topic: [ANN] cudaMiner & ccMiner CUDA based mining applications [Windows/Linux/MacOSX]  (Read 3427031 times)
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October 12, 2014, 09:54:31 PM
Last edit: October 12, 2014, 10:16:12 PM by smolen
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On Nvidia being better than AMD - I'm not so sure. If what you need is memory access, then yes, Nvidia is going to be great. Lots of 32-bit or bigger multiplications? Nvidia. Need to save power? Nvidia. Raw compute power to do operations on stuff with little memory accesses? AMD is pretty damned good.
Interthread communication without local memory - there is a hope to turn whole computing unit (or how is it called) into single hashing machine

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Of course I gave you bad advice. Good one is way out of your price range.
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October 13, 2014, 04:44:38 PM
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Does anyone think/thought about using sse/avx technology in ccminer ? sp_ ?

I know that ccminer spends a little time @CPU comparing to GPU but still there is a room for improvment.
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October 13, 2014, 05:54:52 PM
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Does anyone think/thought about using sse/avx technology in ccminer ? sp_ ?

I know that ccminer spends a little time @CPU comparing to GPU but still there is a room for improvment.
there is always room for improvement... however their is practically no calculation done on cpu (apart for some initialization which are done once in a while), there is really nothing to gain for the moment (compared to what could be gained on gpu... )

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October 13, 2014, 09:08:15 PM
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ChrisH and I, we are doing really rad 1024 bit arithmetics with warp synchronous programming.
This stuff looks exciting.

Riecoin and clones, fear us.

Also our wheel factorization and prime sieving starts to kick butt...
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October 13, 2014, 09:11:09 PM
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Does anyone think/thought about using sse/avx technology in ccminer ? sp_ ?

I know that ccminer spends a little time @CPU comparing to GPU but still there is a room for improvment.

The CPU path in cudaminer used SSE2 pretty early on for scrypt's SHA parts...
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October 13, 2014, 11:24:04 PM
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ChrisH and I, we are doing really rad 1024 bit arithmetics with warp synchronous programming.
This stuff looks exciting.

Riecoin and clones, fear us.

Also our wheel factorization and prime sieving starts to kick butt...
I think you chose the right time to look at prime numbers: another one here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=822498.0

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October 13, 2014, 11:35:11 PM
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I think you chose the right time to look at prime numbers: another one here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=822498.0

"Source code and binaries will be distributed about two days before launch. "

with MaxCoin I had 24 hours notice. This one gives us 48.

UPDATE: "Source code will be available before launch (excluding the PoW function)"

aww man, such party poopers.

but okay, this coin might turn out to be worthless. Like pretty much any other newly launched altcoin recently Wink

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October 14, 2014, 05:16:57 AM
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...with MaxCoin I had 24 hours notice. This one gives us 48...

Christian


Nice to see your comments Mr. Buchner. My ears perk up when you mention MaxCoin. Those were heady times indeed. As for this new coin, it's a shame they changed their minds about the prelaunch release of source code, but as an aside, I enjoy mining the coins like these with a side benefit for science.
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October 14, 2014, 07:03:10 PM
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any new ccminers?
I'm getting 6200 kh/s on a gtx 970 over clocked (X11)
u guys?
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October 14, 2014, 07:21:38 PM
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when mining scrypt jane n=14 on my vista computer i get 3.5 kh/s per 750ti. But on windows 8 2 different computers, i get 2.25kh/s.
I tried it with one card in so memory isnt a problem and tried different batch files. I cant get a 750ti on  windows 8 to do more then 2.25kh/s.   Tongue
Anybody have a clue way plz. thank you.
EDIT: I wonder if it was compiled on windows 7 by Christian and I need to  compiled on windows 8.

Not sure what you're doing wrong, but both of my systems running 8.1 get as much or more hash than my win7 machines.
really, the vista gets more hash on all algos.  Undecided 
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October 14, 2014, 07:22:34 PM
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any new ccminers?
I'm getting 6200 kh/s on a gtx 970 over clocked (X11)
u guys?
ccMiner is not optimized for the 900-series yet.
They're working on it.

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October 14, 2014, 07:26:15 PM
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when mining scrypt jane n=14 on my vista computer i get 3.5 kh/s per 750ti. But on windows 8 2 different computers, i get 2.25kh/s.
I tried it with one card in so memory isnt a problem and tried different batch files. I cant get a 750ti on  windows 8 to do more then 2.25kh/s.   Tongue
Anybody have a clue way plz. thank you.
EDIT: I wonder if it was compiled on windows 7 by Christian and I need to  compiled on windows 8.

Can you share your config that gives you 3.5 kh/s? I`m getting only about 2.7 - 2.8  Thanks in advance.
what windows ?  different bat files. if windows 8 or maybe 7 i get the same hash rate as you.  Undecided   vista 3.5kh/s
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October 14, 2014, 08:21:56 PM
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...with MaxCoin I had 24 hours notice. This one gives us 48...

Christian


Nice to see your comments Mr. Buchner. My ears perk up when you mention MaxCoin. Those were heady times indeed. As for this new coin, it's a shame they changed their minds about the prelaunch release of source code, but as an aside, I enjoy mining the coins like these with a side benefit for science.
side benefit for science...  Grin
You want to do better than calculating prime number to help science ? Run scrypt again, open the windows to cool down the room, let the lights on, then you will make lots of entomologist happy all around the world (and you may found new viruses too...  Grin)

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October 15, 2014, 12:53:29 AM
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evening all. Over a thousand pages, kind of hard to figure things out.

 So., I'm new to all of this. I downloaded and setup minercontrol. I downloaded DJM's latest ccminer (M7V7app). Configured the conf file. Minercontrol launches and looks like I'm mining. But CCminer never launches. I wasn't sure which .dll files to include so I tried it with none and all, same result.
 Any idea's?
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October 15, 2014, 01:16:25 AM
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evening all. Over a thousand pages, kind of hard to figure things out.

 So., I'm new to all of this. I downloaded and setup minercontrol. I downloaded DJM's latest ccminer (M7V7app). Configured the conf file. Minercontrol launches and looks like I'm mining. But CCminer never launches. I wasn't sure which .dll files to include so I tried it with none and all, same result.
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I was about to send you to miner control thread but they already send you there...
I must admit I never heard of miner control before so I can't really be of any help (just read  a few message on their thread where they tell "us"  to put our shit together (to summarize... ) may-be they should first explain what they want to do with others application rather than complaining... (especially when they never put any message here to describe what they intended to do  Grin)

ccminer is a standalone application... so you have to tell us what you want to mine otherwise we can't really help, there is no need for a config file just a command line...

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October 15, 2014, 01:46:29 AM
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evening all. Over a thousand pages, kind of hard to figure things out.

 So., I'm new to all of this. I downloaded and setup minercontrol. I downloaded DJM's latest ccminer (M7V7app). Configured the conf file. Minercontrol launches and looks like I'm mining. But CCminer never launches. I wasn't sure which .dll files to include so I tried it with none and all, same result.
 Any idea's?
Make sure ccMiner is working by itself first, before trying to work it with MinerControl.  Use a .BAT file to launch it with your chosen parameters, and add a PAUSE line to the end, so if it crashes you can read the output before the window disappears.  That should give you a good clue about what may be wrong.
Also read the help text (use --help or -h) so you know what all the arguments do.

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October 15, 2014, 01:57:57 AM
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I must admit I never heard of miner control before so I can't really be of any help (just read  a few message on their thread where they tell "us"  to put our shit together (to summarize... ) may-be they should first explain what they want to do with others application rather than complaining... (especially when they never put any message here to describe what they intended to do  Grin)
Not sure where you're getting the idea that the MinerControl thread just complains about ccMiner.  Aside from a single comment about the GIThub repository, almost all comments in that thread about ccMiner (and everyone involved in it) have been praise, and encouraging donations.  Also, I believe the creator did indeed announce in this thread what he was making, and what it was supposed to do, when he released the very first alpha version of it (started out called "NiceHash Control").
In short, Miner Control allows people to use ccMiner (or nvMiner, or any other derivative) to automatically switch pools & algorithms, based on profitability.  It was initially built specifically for ccMiner and NVIDIA GPU's, because there was not yet any support for such auto-switching with NVIDIA GPU's, and at first only supported NiceHash (now supports several pools, and can be used with other mining apps).  It simply checks various pool API's, and starts the miner (ccMiner, or whatever mining app the user wishes) pointed at the most profitable pool/algorithm.  It continues to check API's, and if another pool/algorithm becomes more profitable than the one currently being mined, then it will shut down the current miner, and start it again pointed at the new pool/algorithm.

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October 15, 2014, 02:10:54 AM
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I must admit I never heard of miner control before so I can't really be of any help (just read  a few message on their thread where they tell "us"  to put our shit together (to summarize... ) may-be they should first explain what they want to do with others application rather than complaining... (especially when they never put any message here to describe what they intended to do  Grin)
Not sure where you're getting the idea that the MinerControl thread just complains about ccMiner.  Aside from a single comment about the GIThub repository, almost all comments in that thread about ccMiner (and everyone involved in it) have been praise, and encouraging donations.  Also, I believe the creator did indeed announce in this thread what he was making, and what it was supposed to do, when he released the very first alpha version of it (started out called "NiceHash Control").
In short, Miner Control allows people to use ccMiner (or nvMiner, or any other derivative) to automatically switch pools & algorithms, based on profitability.  It was initially built specifically for ccMiner and NVIDIA GPU's, because there was not yet any support for such auto-switching with NVIDIA GPU's, and at first only supported NiceHash (now supports several pools, and can be used with other mining apps).  It simply checks various pool API's, and starts the miner (ccMiner, or whatever mining app the user wishes) pointed at the most profitable pool/algorithm.  It continues to check API's, and if another pool/algorithm becomes more profitable than the one currently being mined, then it will shut down the current miner, and start it again pointed at the new pool/algorithm.

djm, your reply on the Miner Control thread was a little brusque, and being that I doubt you are following that thread I'll reply over here.

I haven't been following the ccminer thread too closely the last couple of months but for a while I did see that several people were working independently on ccminer (doing great things) and a couple of people were then trying to merge together the best of each work into a unified product.  A little haphazard but it was still making progress.  That was the source of my musing that a single github repository would be a nice baseline for continuing to improve ccminer being that cbuchner has moved on to other things.  If your branch is now the most complete then hopefully others will submit pull requests to you rather than forking and releasing even more variants.  I'll probably try switching over to it myself soon as the latest version of nvminer I'm using is experiencing occasional crashes that I wasn't seeing before.

As for kalen37, a couple of us here over there directed him towards the ccminer thread being that the problem he is experiencing appears to be ccminer related and nothing to do with Miner Control.  I had him try launching ccminer from a batch file a few days ago to get Miner Control completely out of the equation and he still had the same problem with it not starting up correctly.  At that point it became apparent he would likely get better help on the ccminer thread.

Miner Control is generic and not dependent on ccminer or any other specific miner program.  It is just a tool to launch whichever miner someone chooses to configure under it.  The releases don't even have a real miner bundled in, just a fake one used to demonstrate how to configure the program.

Good luck with your continuing work on ccminer.

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October 15, 2014, 02:28:19 AM
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really cant undestand about miner machine Sad
im a gambler but sometime wanna try to mining some coin

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October 15, 2014, 02:38:37 AM
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really cant undestand about miner machine Sad
im a gambler but sometime wanna try to mining some coin
put everything on the green miner go for gtx980

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