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Author Topic: [ANN] (QTUM) - A Scalable Smart Contract Platform w/ Proof of Stake  (Read 523394 times)
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February 17, 2017, 11:35:48 AM
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You mentioned top chinese exchanges would allow for users to participate on the crowdsale. The ones you announced are not top tier and some might even be unknown to most people. Also the testnet - Sparknet - will be released a couple of months after the crowdsale. Meaning the real thing is months away. That's a lot of time in crypto. What if one of those exchanges runs away with funds or shuts down?

The impact on your crowdsale will be pretty big. You're basically betting none of those exchanges will scam/shut down/get hacked while you don't release the mainnet. That's risky.

One more question. Crowdsale will only have 51% of the tokens. Is there any sort of contract that early founders agreed upon saying they won't sell say, for the first 2 years or something like that? Is there anything keeping them from dumping since the beginning?

The 51% of tokens reserved for the ICO is what worries me about the Qtum project.  It might end up being oversold with all the hype it is receiving. Also, all these Angel backers holding Qtums dirt cheap can drop the bomb anytime.  The ICO being hosted on multiple unknown Chinese exchanges is also a turn off. 

it will be for sure oversold or sold out. they had their campaign running and alot of noobs will throw money into it.

@bcmine your opinion is that qtum is a scam?

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February 17, 2017, 03:51:55 PM
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Two weeks and:

No crowdsale site
No crowdsale plan
No min/max objetives
No countdown

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February 17, 2017, 04:06:01 PM
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Two weeks and:

No crowdsale site
No crowdsale plan
No min/max objetives
No countdown


And still no answer to this:

Only 51% of tokens get distributed in the crowdsale?

I get that 20% is reserved for early backers and foundation initiators, but why is there an additional 20% reserved for business development and another 9% reserved for academic research, education and market expansion? Shouldn't those funds be allocated from the proceeds of the crowdsale? For example 80% crowdsale and 20% for early backers?

Just going to quote myself (above), since this gets burried so quickly with all the Qtum paid promoters.

This question can't be answered with a few sentences and then shelved, let me respond to this properly within 24 hours, these are the types of discussions that matter right now.

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February 17, 2017, 04:43:36 PM
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so only 51% of tokens for sale in ICO.. big warning flag?
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February 17, 2017, 06:55:36 PM
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so only 51% of tokens for sale in ICO.. big warning flag?
yes, it is
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February 17, 2017, 08:27:43 PM
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This is new

http://icoage.com/?P=D&id=31



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ICO date 2017/3/1 - 2099/1/1

Token amount Uncertain
ICO amount Uncertain

Token info
Accepted currency btc
Minimum target N/A
Maximum target Unlimited


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February 17, 2017, 08:34:40 PM
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I look forward to seeing this project come out. Photos in paris are good in . It's nice to see that investors are trying to make something out of it. Did the start date of the first sales be certain?
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February 17, 2017, 08:43:54 PM
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I think it will be the coin of this year.
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February 17, 2017, 08:45:32 PM
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So at exactly what price and how many tokens were purchased by Roger Ver and these other "angel investors"?

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Interesting project with interesting team behind it. Whitepapers, website, and everything looks very professional. Keeping my eye on this one. I guess my only concern, like many others, is that only 51% of funds are sold to ICO investors and the rest is being kept by the team et al. 49% token share + all the money you are going to raise through the ICO seems ridiculous (and unprecedented).

And it appears the distribution numbers don't take into account inflation from PoS either? Or am I missing something? It says 51% will be distributed to community (through ICO), 20% team/angels, 20% business development, and 9% for research etc. But then there will also be coins produced through PoS that aren't included in this breakdown, right? So there will be more inflation/share dilution that an ICO investor needs to be aware of. What is the breakdown of the inflation due to PoS?

Also, as a potential investor I wish only BTC was being used to fund development and research instead of the using a share of the tokens. You plan to sell 29% shares of the token to generate funds over 3-4 years, which is going to drive the price down during that time. And when you say "Ultimately, 100% tokens will be allocated to the community so that Qtum can become a truly open source community." Isn't that just the same as saying you are also going to sell your 20% team/angel shares?
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February 18, 2017, 12:47:58 AM
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why is the Crowdsale through mostly chinese sites and exchanges?
we know we can not trust the chinese exchanges or chinese government... so why are you using them?

this is disgusting... i've got BTC that I cant withdrawl from chinese exchanges

why on earth would you use a site like yunbi in your crowdsale?

dont you want to protect your users from corrupt government and exchanges?Huh

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February 18, 2017, 12:51:38 AM
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Qtum devs should rethink the ICO process.  They should stick with only one source of participating which should be through the official website.  Forget about all the Chinese exchanges.  Since only 51% of the tokens will be offered during the ICO, there's a possibility of the exchanges purchasing up many of the tokens to resell at a higher price.  Also, many of us have never heard of those exchanges. 
    I am of the same opinion.

I second this motion...the use of corrupt exchanges controlled by a corrupt government is a disgusting thought...

These exchanges can not be trusted...  why on earth are they being used for the crowdsale?Huh WTF

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February 18, 2017, 01:05:54 AM
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To be honest, the way this ICO is being structured, it will favor the Chinese investors/exchange owners and the Angel backers.  51% of tokens being offered on 4 different Chinese exchanges, meaning each one will offer about 13 million tokens.   I have no doubt the exchanges will be buying up a chunk of that and reselling it at a much higher rate.  Too many different ICO sources leaves too many opportunities for manipulation. 
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February 18, 2017, 01:09:49 AM
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How much total coins, what's the price to invest in this ICO?


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February 18, 2017, 01:17:17 AM
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Interesting project with interesting team behind it. Whitepapers, website, and everything looks very professional. Keeping my eye on this one. I guess my only concern, like many others, is that only 51% of funds are sold to ICO investors and the rest is being kept by the team et al. 49% token share + all the money you are going to raise through the ICO seems ridiculous (and unprecedented).

And it appears the distribution numbers don't take into account inflation from PoS either? Or am I missing something? It says 51% will be distributed to community (through ICO), 20% team/angels, 20% business development, and 9% for research etc. But then there will also be coins produced through PoS that aren't included in this breakdown, right? So there will be more inflation/share dilution that an ICO investor needs to be aware of. What is the breakdown of the inflation due to PoS?

Also, as a potential investor I wish only BTC was being used to fund development and research instead of the using a share of the tokens. You plan to sell 29% shares of the token to generate funds over 3-4 years, which is going to drive the price down during that time. And when you say "Ultimately, 100% tokens will be allocated to the community so that Qtum can become a truly open source community." Isn't that just the same as saying you are also going to sell your 20% team/angel shares?

Yes, BTC only is better, ETH funding is in fluctuation. 20% business development is too much, it is a part of the team too. 9% research is as well. So the team holds too many tokens.
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February 18, 2017, 06:09:46 AM
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Any idea about the exact date of ICO ? Is it confirmed that it will be on 1st March ?
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How much total coins, what's the price to invest in this ICO?

Tell me if I'm wrong, but I don't think the price is known yet. The price is usually extremely high in the first few days and then goes down to a stable one (talking about altcoins), but I don't think anyone can really say how much will the price be.. I think it'll be high though, I'm interested in this announcement. Smiley

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February 18, 2017, 11:33:02 AM
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Why only 51% selling during the ICO?

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