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April 07, 2017, 03:00:46 PM
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I still don't understand how this project received 10mil dollars. lol

The project raised 15.6 Million dollars in 5 days

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April 07, 2017, 03:21:00 PM
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qtum will mainly depend on china market

I don`t think it matters Cheesy

It'll be a big part of it's success for sure but I would like to see Qtum be more accepted globally as well.  There's definitely a lot of potential.  I think it's a great idea now they need to really execute well on it and beat competitors to market.  They raised a lot of money and sure they can be comfortable now but if they really grow Qtum they can be truly insanely wealthy.  This has a lot of potential, I mean theoretically the tokens could be worth MORE than ETH if they really got people to move the apps they were building for Ethereum over to Qtum to take advantage of the SPV/mobile capabilities.  Of course there are competitors working on making Ethereum more portable but so far they all seem to have some big flaws.

I'm actually regretting not investing more during this ICO, but I invested around what the average was which should be good enough for now until they actually build a working platform.  I think this is actually a much bigger ICO even though it sold more slowly than Cosmos because while Cosmos is very innovative and has a very impressive team behind it as well it's also much more prone to competitors-there's no reason why multiple people can't just straight clone Cosmos and provide a cheaper bridge between the blockchains by offering cheaper alternatives to atoms.  And I could see a lot of big blockchains being resistant to being linked to competing blockchains, since every blockchain is fighting at this point to become "the one".

Can't wait to see what the Qtum team builds.


The team apparently isn't able to keep track of and verify their ICO funds and you are this confident in them? Why?

Because the dude has no fuckin idea what he supposedly invested in. Qtum talked blue in their face about it being a nonprofit and NOT AN INVESTMENT VEHICLE, yet this dude espouses how rich he and them are gonna be thanks to his investment. Qtum could put dog shit on a plate and place it it front of him and tell him that it's a New York steak and this fucker would eat it up, later bragging to all his friends how delicious it was. At this rate Alex Suvo of Black Arrow could make a comeback and sell his new snake oil to a whole new breed of investors, raking in millions more, then disappear sans delivering once again.

Meanwhile, Patrick Dai is laughin' his motherfuckin ass off with his windfall that's nowhere on the blockchain. THIS IS SOME CRAZY SHIT!

The QTUM Crowdsale Is Officially Over

03-21-2017
The QTUM crowdsale is officially over after 117 hours since it kicked off. The Qtum Foundation would like to thank everyone for the support. This crowdsale would not be successful without you. We understand you put the trust in the Qtum team by participating in the crowdsale, and it will only encourage the team to work even harder to launch the Qtum mainnet as soon as possible. We will make sure that all the BTC and ETH raised in the crowdsale will only be spent on moving the Qtum project forward. The Foundation will put in place internal controls to ensure all expenditures are approved, supported, and external monitoring practices will also be implemented. The next four years will be a tough journey for the team, and we are committed to building Qtum as a global blockchain platform. This is just the beginning.

https://qtum.org/en/blog/the-qtum-crowdsale-is-officially-over

I stand corrected on the lack-of-thanks part. Qtum did thank those that participated. I'll even say that it's sincere and well penned.

Now the harder part: where's the txIDs? To date all we have is Qtum themselves stating that U$15M+ was raised. Where's the proof?

I still don't understand how this project received 10mil dollars. lol

The project raised 15.6 Million dollars in 5 days

THAT IS NOT PROOF!
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April 07, 2017, 03:23:49 PM
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It's time to fuck off from the thread now, Gleb.

If you're not an investor you really have no purpose being here.

They provided proof with signatures.

End yourself.
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April 07, 2017, 03:33:58 PM
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It's time to fuck off from the thread now, Gleb.

If you're not an investor you really have no purpose being here.

They provided proof with signatures.

End yourself.

That's odd! The same thing that shills of Alex Suvo's Black Arrow told me to do while he was ripping off their asses - it's time to fuck off from the thread now. At the end of the day those same damn shills were crying like babies wanting help from the community in getting their moneys returned.

Signatures! What fuckin signatures? Are you telling me-cum-us that signatures are better proof than txIDs? Surely, that's not what you're telling us, eh? What next? Fingerprints? Hey, maybe a voice call over a string with a tin can attached on each end.

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With that logic, all Paul would have to do is sign the above and he's golden. Same exact proof you claim Qtum has.
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April 08, 2017, 04:18:00 AM
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Hi dev, any planning to make some team in different country? Maybe it would be batter to make some community in different world. Just some suggest to make this ICO will be rise much more.

only go further for better advancements and for some better scenario is not enough but work work and only work...
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April 08, 2017, 05:19:57 AM
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Hi dev, any planning to make some team in different country? Maybe it would be batter to make some community in different world. Just some suggest to make this ICO will be rise much more.

only go further for better advancements and for some better scenario is not enough but work work and only work...


Team Qtum is convening to pen a reply to your thought provocative post.  Roll Eyes FWIW, they'll reply quicker to your post then to all others requesting txID(s).
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April 08, 2017, 09:43:14 AM
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seems the forum is more active than bitcointalk

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April 08, 2017, 09:52:23 AM
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Hi dev, any planning to make some team in different country? Maybe it would be batter to make some community in different world. Just some suggest to make this ICO will be rise much more.

only go further for better advancements and for some better scenario is not enough but work work and only work...


Team Qtum is convening to pen a reply to your thought provocative post.  Roll Eyes FWIW, they'll reply quicker to your post then to all others requesting txID(s).

seems Qtum start to response your questions man, check it





but also i still want to know about the development work.

also the comments on this big post?


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April 08, 2017, 09:54:09 AM
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- https://qtum.org

Qtum, will probably replace ethereum because it is simpler and has fewer problems. The UXTO model is much cleaner. They have a lot of previous developers and have already done two previous coins and are the best team I have seen so far.


I won't trust dev that promoting qtum-SCAM.....

I have not looked at qtum's code.

We know the qtum founder and he is one of the largest investors in Skycoin from four years ago, before qtum or any of this. Some of the people around him are legendary scammers, but he is not a scammer.

I think Patricks role in the bitbay situation is exaggerated. I read through the arguments and it just sounds like drama.

Many of the people in the Bitcoin community are sociopaths. They often steal things or cause drama, then immediately blame it or scapegoat it on someone else. They are not even done stealing the money, before they go on campaign of moral indignation against the fall person.

I think Patrick was blamed for Bitbay because his personality makes him an easy victim for sociopaths and the human predators in the bitcoin community. There are people walking around, sizing people up and trying to determine whether they can manipulate someone, setup a scam, steal things and who is going to be gullible or a fall person.

If you knew the people involved, you would understand what the social dynamic is.

>Also how can you be so confident qtum is going to replace ETH based on it's tech when they haven't released code yet?

Ethereum is using an accounts model, like Ripple. Which is anti-blockchain and anti-privacy and very traceable. It is against the philosophy of Bitcoin.

All coins going forward will be on the UXTO model and it is best practice for blockchain. Moving turing complete smart contracts off of accounts model and onto UXTO is extremely important and that is what qtum appears to be doing.

We need to figure out how to do general computation on a UXTO model. Instead of being restrained to the Ripple/Ethereum accounts model.

I think they will get closer to the goal, but only get there part way
- thin client for smart contracts (major limitation for existing system)
- moving smart contracts onto UXTO (major milestone)

I do not know if qtum has succeeded, but they seem to be going in right direction. I talked to one of their technical leads and they were focused on "Getting it working with something we can do now" and then incremental improvement over time. So first implementing the Ethereum virtual machine on top of UXTO, then working out the research problems for a native turing complete UXTO language later.

I do not know if there is a way to full UXTO while still having "gas". I think you will need to get rid of the "gas". In the ethereum model to take full advantage. I do not know if qtum will be able to go far enough in doing that, but is heading in the correct direction.

Ethereum tries to be both a token and a computer.
- we started with pure tokens (Bitcoin)
- then we added a computer to the tokens (Ethereum)
- now we just trying to figure out how to build  pure computer on UXTO
- Then once we have the computer, the tokens or coins just become a program or entity running on this "distributed computer"

Bitcoin, Ethereum, qtum, byteballs, etc are just stepping stones. Towards a final solution. None of these will exist or be relevant in ten years. We are in an age of transition and I am looking at the projects that are getting closer to the goal, in a pure mathematical sense.

Even Skycoin is being ripped up and its foundations constantly rewritten when it is advantageous to do so. Bitcoin is static and relatively unchanging, while Ethereum has been able to get the community to accept constant small changes.

Skycoin is on a punctuated equilibrium model, where we do bug fixes and polishing, then completely rip up and rebuild the foundation as needed, then go back to bug fixes and polishing.

Right now, we are exploring new networking primitives and the advantage of immutable data structures, but are still on blockchain. Putting EVM on UXTO is heading towards immutable data structures from the perspective of computation, while we are heading towards immutable data structures from the path of consensus, networking and simplifying object synchronization protocols.

One of the pilots that is being spun out of that project is the distibuted, peer-to-peer social media platform built upon immutable data structures and peer-to-peer object replication. For this Skycoin chose a public key, cryptographic publisher/subscriber model and DAG immutable object tree. While Ethereum's project chose a Kadmelia DHT block storage model.

Ignoring the individuals and the drama, I am just looking at the "future direction" and who is heading in that direction.

>Also how can you be so confident qtum is going to replace ETH based on it's tech when they haven't released code yet?

I am not confident it will replace Ethereum. At the start, it will be equivalent to ethereum in terms of being able to run the Ethereum Virtual Machine (EVM) on top of qtum with UXTO. Then they will do a native language.

It will depend on the implementation. I do not know if qtum has succeeded, but they seem to be going in right direction.

Similarly, Byteballs may fail or may not exist in ten years, but they are pioneering the first experiments into replacing the Blockchain with a DAG. Which we have been considering for several years now.

Similarly, Bitcoin was the first but people are getting used to the idea that it will not be the final or best cryptocurrency. That it was just the first generation and that we can build better and improve it substantially.

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April 08, 2017, 10:05:45 AM
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seems the forum is more active than bitcointalk




In what way is it more active than bitcointalk? Any stats to show that proves this?
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Qtum's forum is more active than BitcoinTalk.



In what way is it more active than bitcointalk? Any stats to show that proves this?

Yes, the stats are on the blockchain with a link to the txID revealed any second now.

Hey, if you guys got locked out of Qtum's ICO, you're now in luck. It seems that there's a rogue band of Russians calling themselves The Argon Group facilitating ICOs, now in the process of seeking over U$50M combined in Investard funding. Tell them Bruno sent you and they'll promise to use lube.  Shocked
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April 09, 2017, 03:05:35 AM
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Qtum's forum is more active than BitcoinTalk.



In what way is it more active than bitcointalk? Any stats to show that proves this?

Yes, the stats are on the blockchain with a link to the txID revealed any second now.

Hey, if you guys got locked out of Qtum's ICO, you're now in luck. It seems that there's a rogue band of Russians calling themselves The Argon Group facilitating ICOs, now in the process of seeking over U$50M combined in Investard funding. Tell them Bruno sent you and they'll promise to use lube.  Shocked

now, you start attack Qtum's forum is more active than BitcoinTalk.  that's not good man.

check my last post man.

Hi dev, any planning to make some team in different country? Maybe it would be batter to make some community in different world. Just some suggest to make this ICO will be rise much more.

only go further for better advancements and for some better scenario is not enough but work work and only work...


Team Qtum is convening to pen a reply to your thought provocative post.  Roll Eyes FWIW, they'll reply quicker to your post then to all others requesting txID(s).

seems Qtum start to response your questions man, check it





but also i still want to know about the development work.

also the comments on this big post?



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April 09, 2017, 04:13:01 AM
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Too many chinese involve hehe
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April 09, 2017, 04:31:49 AM
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Qtum's forum is more active than BitcoinTalk.



In what way is it more active than bitcointalk? Any stats to show that proves this?

Yes, the stats are on the blockchain with a link to the txID revealed any second now.

Hey, if you guys got locked out of Qtum's ICO, you're now in luck. It seems that there's a rogue band of Russians calling themselves The Argon Group facilitating ICOs, now in the process of seeking over U$50M combined in Investard funding. Tell them Bruno sent you and they'll promise to use lube.  Shocked

now, you start attack Qtum's forum is more active than BitcoinTalk.  that's not good man.


I stand corrected, for I'm such a fuckin idiot! Of course Qtum's forum which started just a couple days ago is more active than BitcoinTalk. What the fuck was I even thinking or smoking?

BitcoinTalk has ONLY 965,965 members, whereas Qtum's forum has ... numbers to be released the same time Qtum produces the txIDs depicting their U$15M+ windfall during their ICO.


theymos, sell BCT while the gettin's good. From the looks of it, by this time next week, it'll just be you, me and dank populating BitcoinTalk.  Cry Cry Cry
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April 09, 2017, 05:30:32 AM
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this ann shouts scam scam scam and chinese scam lol

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April 09, 2017, 06:21:58 AM
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this ann shouts scam scam scam and chinese scam lol

Now they'll be calling you a racist.  Roll Eyes
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April 09, 2017, 06:37:39 AM
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There is the same qtum in tradesatoshi?
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April 09, 2017, 08:40:28 AM
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There is the same qtum in tradesatoshi?

it's a different coin.

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April 09, 2017, 08:43:27 AM
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only thing matter is if dev can delivery the platform or not

otherwise no matter how many people invest, it may fall.

also it does not matter if someone like the project, someone do not like the project.

even right now, some people still think bitcoin is a scam

if dev can delivery the platform, Qtum will be the top5 coin in 1 year.

i will bet 10BTC on this.

welcome to join me.


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April 09, 2017, 08:47:28 AM
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if Qtum can not be a top5 coin on coinmarketcap by April 9th 2018.

i will give 10BTC to who bet with me.


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