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for resume you dont answer to people whant a refund and you will answer them when contract will be running and to tell us that refund is not possible because contract really start
it's a joke !
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October 13, 2013, 01:59:33 PM |
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tokeweed, I don't want to be rude but who are you to ask me for my contract number? BTW I already posted it on my first complaint in this threat. If you don't believe i'm a customer that is your problem.
I'm quite fed up of this. If CH cannot fullfil the contracts on date at it's 100%. How am I gonna expect they will fullfil the reinvestment program??
And as someone said before, if you don't have the responsibility of start paying when the contract begins. where is the business for me?? There is no more trust for you, your are not reliable. Don't say we are making this for you the customer, because your are making bussines you are earning money!!! so not more this is for you guys... that is manipulation
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October 13, 2013, 03:13:46 PM |
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If you think I'm writing here just to make more noise. You don't understand what means customer service. As I told you I wrote you 3 emails, and never got an answer.
just wait. be patient. and you'll get your refund. i got my refund for some of the july contracts i purchased. emmanuel is a straight up guy. he wouldn't do anything to double cross you being his customer. unlike these other companies we know right? so please, be patient. oh and please post your order number on here or pm it to emmanuel to prove you are a customer. there are a lot of fake accounts here posing as CH users when actually they are from competing farms. those hypocrites never stop pretending to "help" us. what connection do you have with CH? your more than a customer i think? Biased Opinion i think!!
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October 13, 2013, 03:20:08 PM |
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Customer service is a real GEM! I have asked for a refund, you guaranteed functional service by the 10th of Oct. You did not claim supplier issues then, IN FACT you stated in the news letter that we would be @ > 100 TH/s "by the end of the week", then it was 15% OH WAIT we made it to 30%....thud.. Today my "status" is Inactive? I want OUT!
Please.
Still no response to request for refund, emailed "customer support" with acct #'s, bitpay receipts, etc. Nothing, I spent 28+ BTC on these worthless contracts which Emanuel guaranteed would be at full hash by NO LATER then Oct. 10th 2013. We were to have access to the GUI which would show live-time stats and give access to the "private 0% pool". NONE of this has happened, NOT 1 GD thing he has said in 2 newsletters has been accomplished and NOW they have supplier issues, BS. The 16th is Wednesday how much do you want to bet they are late or have some crap excuse for NOT making the first payout for September contracts. Send MY 28.4649 BTC to 1FM1xESzDQPunLpEqb79cjiFyDRmqKW97q then I will no longer BE a CH client, do you understand THAT?
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October 13, 2013, 07:28:18 PM |
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When is the next payout?
We will for now be paying by-weekly. The next scheduled payout date is Tuesday 16th of October. Once the mining pool is fully operational, we will switch to the daily payment method.
Um the 16th is a Wednesday....
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October 13, 2013, 07:37:01 PM |
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Payout Date
To allow for our systems to adjust to changes in our infrastructure stemming from our fluctuating mining status we will now move our first payout date for customers to around two weeks from the release of this newsletter. We will transition to daily payouts shorty after this event.
Oh missed this EXCUSE, so NOW we have to wait until "around" the 22nd OCTOBER to receive our FIRST payment for SEPTEMBER contracts, come on now this IS BULLSH*T! NOT anything like the contract I agreed to refund my accts, this IS criminal behavior!
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October 13, 2013, 11:57:27 PM |
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If you think I'm writing here just to make more noise. You don't understand what means customer service. As I told you I wrote you 3 emails, and never got an answer.
just wait. be patient. and you'll get your refund. i got my refund for some of the july contracts i purchased. emmanuel is a straight up guy. he wouldn't do anything to double cross you being his customer. unlike these other companies we know right? so please, be patient. oh and please post your order number on here or pm it to emmanuel to prove you are a customer. there are a lot of fake accounts here posing as CH users when actually they are from competing farms. those hypocrites never stop pretending to "help" us. what connection do you have with CH? your more than a customer i think? Biased Opinion i think!! of course i'm concerned, i have contracts with them, who would want for them to go down? i'll get nothing. it's you, who are you? you're not even a customer. and you're saying you're helping us? you are a hypocrite. you are from another mining farm using this fake account. as for the rest, some of the posters here trying to get a 'refund' are fake accounts used for trolling. CH should just lock this thread up and start their own forum in their site where we can talk to other paying customers. some hypocrites here are from a competing farm protecting their interests.
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October 14, 2013, 12:08:55 AM |
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oh and fyi, i am giving CH until end of december to get their act straight. i know they're not perfect but i adhere to patience. if ever by december i see the same problems over and over, we'll see what happens.
for the people who are really serious about CH, please a little patience. come december if it's the same, we can act. right now it is a good time to research on how to file a lawsuit vs them for not honoring their contracts and false advertising.
you guys should stop whining and do some research on what to do in case everything doesn't go well. which lawyer to get, how much you can get out of them, etc...
pm me if you want more info on which websites to go to.
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October 14, 2013, 12:27:13 AM |
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Many of US have thought to do exactly what CH wants to do, it is a great concept. Me and my group decided NOT to do so because of the difficulty and manufacturer delays, because UNLIKE CH we planned to WAIT until our cloud was functional BEFORE selling the contracts and could not find a funding source with the patience to wait > 180 for ROI. If you want to be paid to manage a cloud you had best know how to setup and run a cloud. These gentlemen are proving just how little planning and research they have done.
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October 14, 2013, 09:21:21 AM |
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oh and fyi, i am giving CH until end of december to get their act straight. i know they're not perfect but i adhere to patience. if ever by december i see the same problems over and over, we'll see what happens.
for the people who are really serious about CH, please a little patience. come december if it's the same, we can act. right now it is a good time to research on how to file a lawsuit vs them for not honoring their contracts and false advertising.
you guys should stop whining and do some research on what to do in case everything doesn't go well. which lawyer to get, how much you can get out of them, etc...
pm me if you want more info on which websites to go to.
Joker Toker , thats all im gonna say about you , to everyone else dont wait fro CH to mine with your money get ya refunds now
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October 14, 2013, 10:15:22 AM |
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oh and fyi, i am giving CH until end of december to get their act straight. i know they're not perfect but i adhere to patience. if ever by december i see the same problems over and over, we'll see what happens.
for the people who are really serious about CH, please a little patience. come december if it's the same, we can act. right now it is a good time to research on how to file a lawsuit vs them for not honoring their contracts and false advertising.
you guys should stop whining and do some research on what to do in case everything doesn't go well. which lawyer to get, how much you can get out of them, etc...
pm me if you want more info on which websites to go to.
End of December the Difficulty will be around 900.000.000. If you have a 8GHS gold or higher contract you will make no $$ BTCBTC
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October 14, 2013, 12:45:35 PM |
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just wait. be patient. and you'll get your refund. i got my refund for some of the july contracts i purchased. emmanuel is a straight up guy. he wouldn't do anything to double cross you being his customer. unlike these other companies we know right?
so please, be patient.
oh and please post your order number on here or pm it to emmanuel to prove you are a customer. there are a lot of fake accounts here posing as CH users when actually they are from competing farms. those hypocrites never stop pretending to "help" us.
I'm not customer of CH but what I can tell is that, tokeweed is one of them., or got better deal for calming crowd down. people who paid want opt out, they can't. they asking question, they don't get answers. obvious delays was taken in consideration when "contracts" was on sale. can CH deliver full power? seems not, backlog of BTC pille up for customers and unfortunatelly for CH difficulty is.going up not down. no chance for CH to repay what was lost already. good business model. if I was behaving like CH in my work like that I would end up in jobcenter...I'm not against CH but against treating people like live wallets. good day.
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October 14, 2013, 01:29:46 PM |
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yeah, i'm one of them. you got me... NOT!
and to all the fake accounts, trolls and hypocrites, keep posting i really have fun reading all your posts.
post away folks, tell everyone how bad CH is.
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yeah, i'm one of them. you got me... NOT!
and to all the fake accounts, trolls and hypocrites, keep posting i really have fun reading all your posts.
post away folks, tell everyone how bad CH is.
That's my point of view. for.some.reason only u trying to calm down at least 3 different pwople who want their refund. trolls? anyone who is against is automatically troll? or hypocrite? answer to that. if I was CH customer who cannot opt out without valid reason for breaching of.contract, I would pay that silly 60 quid and would fill a claim against them. than i would post result here. trust me this way avalanche of claims would be sorted within a week of receiving another claims from different users. maybe i wrong, but if they got some reimbursement for delay, they should announce it, not keep it secret. it looks.like they buying more time to earn more and probably to disappear with all that cash in hand. they acting like BFL and others who fail but still wins. people are stupid if they still thinking of making any money from them. better of is to buy BTC and just trade it on exchange. atleast BTC would be in possesion. nothing is free in this world now, specialy free BTC served by CH
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October 14, 2013, 01:59:08 PM Last edit: October 14, 2013, 02:09:10 PM by philipma1957 |
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yeah, i'm one of them. you got me... NOT!
and to all the fake accounts, trolls and hypocrites, keep posting i really have fun reading all your posts.
post away folks, tell everyone how bad CH is.
well they have not been very good. but most ASIC COMPANIES SUCK they over sell over promise and under deliver. I do not blame CH any more. I blame buyers like myself of anything that is not an in hand item. I am still a winner at btc , but frankly I will no longer buy anything from anyone that is not in hand. The score card; 1) BFL = I lose 534 usd 2)Cloudhashing = I lose 717usd in 135 usd back. 3) Bit fury usb sticks = an asked amount for a refund paid to me I got back 17 of 20.4 btc. I figure 85% is better then 0% 4) bit fury 95 days wait a full refund 5) a knc group buy 7.5 btc in ? back this may work. 6) a different knc group buy 10 btc in ? back this may work. I made money with ASIC MINER usb sticks and stock the only in hand dealer of asics I made money with gpus purchased from amazon.com back in the good old days. also an in ' hand item' I never purchased AVALON many people hate them. so basically ASIC builders suck. only KNC and AM have been okay. So the idea that CH sucks makes sense since he is buying from terrible builders like the rest of us. Not hard to understand that this industry is being hurt by bad businessman that are looking to kill off a golden goose.
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of all the posters in this thread, philippa is one of the legit ones. whatever his comment is, good or bad i respect it because i know for a fact he is a real customer.
if there's a person you should listen to about CH, it's him.
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October 14, 2013, 03:53:18 PM |
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of all the posters in this thread, philippa is one of the legit ones. whatever his comment is, good or bad i respect it because i know for a fact he is a real customer.
if there's a person you should listen to about CH, it's him.
And tokeweed is 100% NOT one to listen to, December my A$$, 100% Shill!
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Hey guys, Check it out. Choudhashing that actually works. Buy cloud hashing as a commodity, any amount down to the Satoshi. Trade them out if you wish, produce bitcoin by the GH all the while you hold them. Put your bitcoins to work making more and at the same time protect the network from excess hashing. https://www.cex.io/I bought 4.5 GH/s from them with about .8BTC. That's a hell of a lot cheaper then $1000 for 20 GH/s. It'll produce BTC and later if I need to I can sell them back on the open market. They pay out to your account either hourly or by block... not sure yet but your running at 100% as soon as you buy the GH/s and then I can withdraw from my account to my wallet whenever I want or reinvest in more GH/s. If you decide to use this service hook me up with a shameless referral click: https://cex.io/r/0/tripppn/0/Good tip tripppn, once I get my refund from CH I will surely follow your lead! 28 BTC would = 150 + GH/s much better then the 60 GH/s promised by CH AND they deliver LIVE-TIME!! Hmm I remember CH BS'ing on a radio show about their ability to do so, they LIED! A$$HOLE in every crowd eh?
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October 14, 2013, 06:07:24 PM |
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Hey guys, Check it out. Choudhashing that actually works. Buy cloud hashing as a commodity, any amount down to the Satoshi. Trade them out if you wish, produce bitcoin by the GH all the while you hold them. Put your bitcoins to work making more and at the same time protect the network from excess hashing. https://www.cex.io/I bought 4.5 GH/s from them with about .8BTC. That's a hell of a lot cheaper then $1000 for 20 GH/s. It'll produce BTC and later if I need to I can sell them back on the open market. They pay out to your account either hourly or by block... not sure yet but your running at 100% as soon as you buy the GH/s and then I can withdraw from my account to my wallet whenever I want or reinvest in more GH/s. If you decide to use this service hook me up with a shameless referral click: https://cex.io/r/0/tripppn/0/Good tip tripppn, once I get my refund from CH I will surely follow your lead! 28 BTC would = 150 + GH/s much better then the 60 GH/s promised by CH AND they deliver LIVE-TIME!! Hmm I remember CH BS'ing on a radio show about their ability to do so, they LIED! A$$HOLE in every crowd eh? That's an interesting service. Another one I've found is ADDICTION on bitfunder (although if you're US-based, bitfunder will stop working for you soon, so don't buy). Shares in ADDICTION go for about 0.006BTC each right now, and each share is worth 1/12400 of a Jupiter, which is about 500GH/s (the Jupiters were each split into 124 shares in GroupBuy1, and each GroupBuy1 share converted into 100 ADDICTION shares, so 124000). GroupBuy1 is hashing already, so you get the dividends when they're paid. They host for 2 years (hosting costs are deducted from dividends). The thread is here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=227400.0So you get about 500 GH/s for 74BTC, or 6.7GH/s per 1 BTC, but not "truly hosted" because costs are deducted from dividends (vs. 5.5GH/s per 1 BTC for cex.io hosted) - disclosure I own some shares (but only because they're the cheapest GH/s per BTC I have found in the market - I have no other connection). It seems a shame that cloudhashing isn't working out as planned - would be great to see more companies doing well but the abysmal performance of most of the ASIC manufacturers makes these businesses tricky... how can you plan a business when your suppliers never deliver? scotjam
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October 14, 2013, 06:28:27 PM Last edit: October 14, 2013, 06:45:11 PM by philipma1957 |
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... It seems a shame that cloudhashing isn't working out as planned - would be great to see more companies doing well but the abysmal performance of most of the ASIC manufacturers makes these businesses tricky... how can you plan a business when your suppliers never deliver?
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yep this is the bottom line asic builders have really tarnished btc with countless bad slow deliveries. I was lucky with gpus so I stick around, but sooo many slow deliveries cancels etc will kill this off. I did this sale on ebay http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=151127885620 had to refund all the buyers why no sticks. unlike cloudhashing I gave the refunds asap. took a loss on the deal. but my scale is small and I can take a 3 or 4 hundred hit to keep my name good. also ended and refunded this sale http://www.ebay.com/itm/ASIC-MINER-RED-BLUE-FURY-FASTEST-USB-STICK-for-BITCOIN-2-6GH-AT-2-5-WATTS-/151130985862? why no sticks. but this is only 6x 160 or 960 usd. I then bailed on my purchase of 24 of these for 20.4 btc and took only 17 btc so my real loss was 3.4 btc https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=296301.0 this thread is long but the seller gave me 17 btc back on 20.4 btc which was a loss that i was willing to do. partially offset by a rise in btc price my real loss was about 260 usd just under 2 btc. If you read the cloud hashing thread you will see that CH is in deep and whether he is a good guy or a bad guy remains to be seen.. I do not think any investor will do well with CH. myself included. I am about 578-600 usd in the hole with this contract. If CH had been perfect I still would have lost money due to the explosion of hash but Instead of 578-600 I would be about 300-325 usd in the hole... So in a magic perfect world with no wrong ever happening Ch would say it is cool phil here is the 300 or so I screwed up.. I take things relative. I have to go for a second skin cancer operation on Halloween . Last year my face this year my back and I am lucky my grandmother died from it (Norwegian skin is not good with the sun) My mom has had 7 operations. My doctor told me the next ten years I may have 3 or 4 more. So a small loss of 500-600 max I can live with it. To tokeweed no no no i don't smoke it no more I am tired of waking up on the floor. my motto for the last 22 years
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