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January 08, 2017, 12:41:31 PM
 #181

This is not a political thread.

So please don't make it that.


This is a good piece of gear.  It is ½ the size of a normal  gpu miner.

and for some people  changing from Chinese to their language will not be easy.

The lack of a "real legit"  windows enterprise LTSB key  is Microsofts choice .

Simply because of the way they structure  enterprise keys.

I do believe I can up grade from  enterprise LTSB to enterprise  and purchase a legit enterprise key.

I do not have a problem with that.

The gear has mined ZEC very well for me.

I would like to have this with three msata ssds.
 1)oem 
 2) oem cloned and upgraded to Enterprise not Enterprise LTSB
 3) linux  with improved roms.

ZEC works well
ETH crashes
XMR not tested
EOS not tested



OS + management + monitoring + roms (auto flash) is almost done, give me a few days and it'll be good to go!

Greetings!

Would Claymore ethman or equivalent solution part of your Linux package?

Equivalent but better, easier and a lot more interesting for large farm development. Smiley

You'll be able to switch from any miner to any other miner, any algo to any other algo.

Greetings!

Lovely!

I am wondering if can intergrate SRR into a rack of Pandas?

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January 08, 2017, 12:48:44 PM
 #182

This is not a political thread.

So please don't make it that.


This is a good piece of gear.  It is ½ the size of a normal  gpu miner.

and for some people  changing from Chinese to their language will not be easy.

The lack of a "real legit"  windows enterprise LTSB key  is Microsofts choice .

Simply because of the way they structure  enterprise keys.

I do believe I can up grade from  enterprise LTSB to enterprise  and purchase a legit enterprise key.

I do not have a problem with that.

The gear has mined ZEC very well for me.

I would like to have this with three msata ssds.
 1)oem 
 2) oem cloned and upgraded to Enterprise not Enterprise LTSB
 3) linux  with improved roms.

ZEC works well
ETH crashes
XMR not tested
EOS not tested



OS + management + monitoring + roms (auto flash) is almost done, give me a few days and it'll be good to go!

Greetings!

Would Claymore ethman or equivalent solution part of your Linux package?

Equivalent but better, easier and a lot more interesting for large farm development. Smiley

You'll be able to switch from any miner to any other miner, any algo to any other algo.

Greetings!

Lovely!

I am wondering if can intergrate SRR into a rack of Pandas?

What is SRR ? a remote system of some kind?

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January 08, 2017, 12:57:07 PM
 #183

This is not a political thread.

So please don't make it that.


This is a good piece of gear.  It is ½ the size of a normal  gpu miner.

and for some people  changing from Chinese to their language will not be easy.

The lack of a "real legit"  windows enterprise LTSB key  is Microsofts choice .

Simply because of the way they structure  enterprise keys.

I do believe I can up grade from  enterprise LTSB to enterprise  and purchase a legit enterprise key.

I do not have a problem with that.

The gear has mined ZEC very well for me.

I would like to have this with three msata ssds.
 1)oem 
 2) oem cloned and upgraded to Enterprise not Enterprise LTSB
 3) linux  with improved roms.

ZEC works well
ETH crashes
XMR not tested
EOS not tested



OS + management + monitoring + roms (auto flash) is almost done, give me a few days and it'll be good to go!

Greetings!

Would Claymore ethman or equivalent solution part of your Linux package?

Equivalent but better, easier and a lot more interesting for large farm development. Smiley

You'll be able to switch from any miner to any other miner, any algo to any other algo.

Greetings!

Lovely!

I am wondering if can intergrate SRR into a rack of Pandas?

What is SRR ? a remote system of some kind?

Philip - https://simplemining.net/page/simpleRigResetter

I am also using their Linux miner solution for 5 of my rigs currently in the GPU farm.

SRR is basically a remote relay solution to reset your rig remotely -- think cheap APC switched PDU.

Just plug in SRR to replace your on-off switch on mobo and off you go -useful for remote sites.

Eliovop may have an alternative solution....  Grin

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January 08, 2017, 01:31:46 PM
 #184

This is not a political thread.

So please don't make it that.


This is a good piece of gear.  It is ½ the size of a normal  gpu miner.

and for some people  changing from Chinese to their language will not be easy.

The lack of a "real legit"  windows enterprise LTSB key  is Microsofts choice .

Simply because of the way they structure  enterprise keys.

I do believe I can up grade from  enterprise LTSB to enterprise  and purchase a legit enterprise key.

I do not have a problem with that.

The gear has mined ZEC very well for me.

I would like to have this with three msata ssds.
 1)oem 
 2) oem cloned and upgraded to Enterprise not Enterprise LTSB
 3) linux  with improved roms.

ZEC works well
ETH crashes
XMR not tested
EOS not tested



OS + management + monitoring + roms (auto flash) is almost done, give me a few days and it'll be good to go!

Greetings!

Would Claymore ethman or equivalent solution part of your Linux package?

Equivalent but better, easier and a lot more interesting for large farm development. Smiley

You'll be able to switch from any miner to any other miner, any algo to any other algo.

Greetings!

Lovely!

I am wondering if can intergrate SRR into a rack of Pandas?

What is SRR ? a remote system of some kind?

Philip - https://simplemining.net/page/simpleRigResetter

I am also using their Linux miner solution for 5 of my rigs currently in the GPU farm.

SRR is basically a remote relay solution to reset your rig remotely -- think cheap APC switched PDU.

Just plug in SRR to replace your on-off switch on mobo and off you go -useful for remote sites.

Eliovop may have an alternative solution....  Grin

It's basically just PicoIP,  google it..

I have one as well, works nice, costs around 30 bucks and i can switch on/off 16 rigs with one module.




Greetings!

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January 08, 2017, 05:34:01 PM
 #185

Nice little piece of hardware  Shocked Cool

what hardware are you using for it to cost this low ?
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January 08, 2017, 05:46:53 PM
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Nice little piece of hardware  Shocked Cool

what hardware are you using for it to cost this low ?

it could link directly to the mobo on off switch


these turn on a mobo not in a case.  they are manual.

but his is auto.  once mobo turns on there is a scrypt that  boots and starts the mining program.

I have enough gear now to do this as I am at 14 pc's  I just have not done it. so all my reboots are  done manually.

 I push that switch below then sign in then call up claymore miner. and check msi afterburner.

It is becoming a little too much work to do for me.



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 #187

Nice little piece of hardware  Shocked Cool

what hardware are you using for it to cost this low ?

it could link directly to the mobo on off switch

Yeah that i understand how it work,

It's basically a PI with a bunch of relays, but i wished to know what he bought to make 30$ because for me it's like 3-5$ per relay + 35/45$ for the little pi, so wondered what he choose to make his this cheap Smiley
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January 08, 2017, 05:52:06 PM
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Nice little piece of hardware  Shocked Cool

what hardware are you using for it to cost this low ?

it could link directly to the mobo on off switch

Yeah that i understand how it work,

It's basically a PI with a bunch of relays, but i wished to know what he bought to make 30$ because for me it's like 3-5$ per relay + 35/45$ for the little pi, so wondered what he choose to make it this cheap Smiley

got you  sorry for repeat info.

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January 08, 2017, 06:00:33 PM
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Nice little piece of hardware  Shocked Cool

what hardware are you using for it to cost this low ?

it could link directly to the mobo on off switch

Yeah that i understand how it work,

It's basically a PI with a bunch of relays, but i wished to know what he bought to make 30$ because for me it's like 3-5$ per relay + 35/45$ for the little pi, so wondered what he choose to make it this cheap Smiley

got you  sorry for repeat info.

Np, thanks for your input, pretty sure it'll be useful, no info is bad info  Wink

I use something similar with cross monitoring batch/shell/python script to reboot my rigs if needed, but it costed me nearly 100$ counting all the hardware so i was looking to reduce costs for the next ones Smiley hence why i was interested
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January 08, 2017, 07:58:53 PM
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Nice little piece of hardware  Shocked Cool

what hardware are you using for it to cost this low ?

it could link directly to the mobo on off switch


these turn on a mobo not in a case.  they are manual.

but his is auto.  once mobo turns on there is a scrypt that  boots and starts the mining program.

I have enough gear now to do this as I am at 14 pc's  I just have not done it. so all my reboots are  done manually.

 I push that switch below then sign in then call up claymore miner. and check msi afterburner.

It is becoming a little too much work to do for me.



https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00E6NFL8I/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

very useful if your rigs are hosted remotely, or in a confined/compact area -- saves me 30mins travel time to go back to warehouse -- and I am not fond of being the only one in a deserted place in the middle of the night....  Cry.

On another matter... I have done a quick estimate if I was to replace my whole GPU farm with Pandas... basically my 12 racks will be reduced to 3-4 assuming 10 Pandas per rack. I could have saved a ton of money on cooling, cabling and electrical works.

I wonder what is the resale value of my Sapphire R-Nanos-4GB-HBMs and Sapphire RX-480-8GBs; and MSI R9-390 8GB ?
Are those ZEC farms still looking for GPUs?

I think I will need to do inventory update soon for a garage sale  Grin

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January 08, 2017, 08:41:42 PM
 #191

This is not a political thread.

So please don't make it that.


This is a good piece of gear.  It is ½ the size of a normal  gpu miner.

and for some people  changing from Chinese to their language will not be easy.

The lack of a "real legit"  windows enterprise LTSB key  is Microsofts choice .

Simply because of the way they structure  enterprise keys.

I do believe I can up grade from  enterprise LTSB to enterprise  and purchase a legit enterprise key.

I do not have a problem with that.

The gear has mined ZEC very well for me.

I would like to have this with three msata ssds.
 1)oem 
 2) oem cloned and upgraded to Enterprise not Enterprise LTSB
 3) linux  with improved roms.

ZEC works well
ETH crashes
XMR not tested
EOS not tested


Eth and XMR are the best coins to mine right now if it cant mine those might as well stick to existing hardware

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January 08, 2017, 09:22:02 PM
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This is not a political thread.

So please don't make it that.


This is a good piece of gear.  It is ½ the size of a normal  gpu miner.

and for some people  changing from Chinese to their language will not be easy.

The lack of a "real legit"  windows enterprise LTSB key  is Microsofts choice .

Simply because of the way they structure  enterprise keys.

I do believe I can up grade from  enterprise LTSB to enterprise  and purchase a legit enterprise key.

I do not have a problem with that.

The gear has mined ZEC very well for me.

I would like to have this with three msata ssds.
 1)oem 
 2) oem cloned and upgraded to Enterprise not Enterprise LTSB
 3) linux  with improved roms.

ZEC works well
ETH crashes
XMR not tested
EOS not tested


Eth and XMR are the best coins to mine right now if it cant mine those might as well stick to existing hardware

My panda is mining XMR with sgminer-gm in Windows currently.

You can mine all of the above with Linux which Eliovp has tested.

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January 08, 2017, 10:17:28 PM
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This is not a political thread.

So please don't make it that.


This is a good piece of gear.  It is ½ the size of a normal  gpu miner.

and for some people  changing from Chinese to their language will not be easy.

The lack of a "real legit"  windows enterprise LTSB key  is Microsofts choice .

Simply because of the way they structure  enterprise keys.

I do believe I can up grade from  enterprise LTSB to enterprise  and purchase a legit enterprise key.

I do not have a problem with that.

The gear has mined ZEC very well for me.

I would like to have this with three msata ssds.
 1)oem  
 2) oem cloned and upgraded to Enterprise not Enterprise LTSB
 3) linux  with improved roms.

ZEC works well
ETH crashes
XMR not tested
EOS not tested


Eth and XMR are the best coins to mine right now if it cant mine those might as well stick to existing hardware

My panda is mining XMR with sgminer-gm in Windows currently.

You can mine all of the above with Linux which Eliovp has tested.
Claymore is windows only for XMR and I like the ethman tool , all my reboot and email scripts are linked through that having to switch to another miner just to use this hardware is one more hassle i don't need.

maybe when they get their windows builds together and working properly I'll take a look but for now I can build a 6GPU rig for $1700 or so with 470s that hash just as fast as 480s and also buy 5 more cards for another rig with the $600 left out of the  2319 (no PSU)

panda is charging and I know for certian i can mine everything on windows out of the box.  I dislike Linux in any case.

Tthrow in the reslae on the GPUs ram and SSD's i buy and its a far safer bet to build my own.  

If the panda gear works right out of the box for my normal deployments I would possibly grab a few for the summer when i turn off alot of my gear but for now i like 470rigs.

in my $1700 quote i'm including a $300 titanium PSU 240GB SSD, 4GB ram and dual core celeron proccesor, six usb risers.  If i added a Titanium PSU to the panda build that skyrockets things to 2600 with shipping over 1k more for 60mhs more hash and a fancy case no thanks

Maybe you guys got discounts or free machines to test makes it worth it for you but the numbers don't add up for me mostly due to part out and resale issues , and OS, the price is not terrible but considering I cant part the machines out easily its too high imo


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January 09, 2017, 03:34:36 AM
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Question for you Phil.  I know that you said Eliovp's linux build will boot up and start mining automatically, but would the image straight from the factory be able to run headless?  Basically without a monitor, keyboard or a mouse plugged into it?  Will it boot without video connected to it if you set it to auto login and throw the batch file into the startup?  Thanks.

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January 09, 2017, 04:25:25 AM
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Question for you Phil.  I know that you said Eliovp's linux build will boot up and start mining automatically, but would the image straight from the factory be able to run headless?  Basically without a monitor, keyboard or a mouse plugged into it?  Will it boot without video connected to it if you set it to auto login and throw the batch file into the startup?  Thanks.

It would need to be set to turn on after a power outage.


that is in the power settings for windows 7 and I have a few pc's set that way.
I could look at this right now to see if I can set it to power on after a blackout.


  it is set to auto login.



 you would then need to setup a batch file.

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January 09, 2017, 06:54:46 AM
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Question for you Phil.  I know that you said Eliovp's linux build will boot up and start mining automatically, but would the image straight from the factory be able to run headless?  Basically without a monitor, keyboard or a mouse plugged into it?  Will it boot without video connected to it if you set it to auto login and throw the batch file into the startup?  Thanks.

Yes, completely headless.

Start up, mining will start automatically.


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Tried Niceheash Windows Miner v 1.7.3.11 -- running normally - will run overnight to see if it can hold.

During installation, required .NET 3.5 installation as prerequisite.

GPU benchmark listed only Dagger-Hashimoto and Equihash coins.

Strange - running this NH miner on normal rig lists more than this 2 algorithms.

However, if you choose to also include CPU mining, it will list more algos like LYRA2RE, HODL and Cryptonite.

This version supports 3rd party miners like latest versions of Claymore ETH and ZEC miners.

This NH Windows Miner is probably the most easiest to set up and ideal for mining newbies.


 I believe you are required to install 3'd party miners to support some of the other algorythms.
 I've always done that on my NH installations, so not sure.

 NH also supports the Genoil ETH miner, if you don't like the double-whammy fees involved in running Claymore on ETH.

 IMO most folks are better off not running Nicehash at this point on anything but NVidia.


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Tried Niceheash Windows Miner v 1.7.3.11 -- running normally - will run overnight to see if it can hold.

During installation, required .NET 3.5 installation as prerequisite.

GPU benchmark listed only Dagger-Hashimoto and Equihash coins.

Strange - running this NH miner on normal rig lists more than this 2 algorithms.

However, if you choose to also include CPU mining, it will list more algos like LYRA2RE, HODL and Cryptonite.

This version supports 3rd party miners like latest versions of Claymore ETH and ZEC miners.

This NH Windows Miner is probably the most easiest to set up and ideal for mining newbies.


 I believe you are required to install 3'd party miners to support some of the other algorythms.
 I've always done that on my NH installations, so not sure.

 NH also supports the Genoil ETH miner, if you don't like the double-whammy fees involved in running Claymore on ETH.

 IMO most folks are better off not running Nicehash at this point on anything but NVidia.

agreed - they are too many AMD options out there - and claymore, optiminer, sgminer, wolf, genoil....

Nicehash seems to be siding NVIDIA of recent

if quick and easy mining direct to BTC - this NH miner will be easiest.... but surely not the most profitable.

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January 09, 2017, 10:10:35 AM
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Question for you Phil.  I know that you said Eliovp's linux build will boot up and start mining automatically, but would the image straight from the factory be able to run headless?  Basically without a monitor, keyboard or a mouse plugged into it?  Will it boot without video connected to it if you set it to auto login and throw the batch file into the startup?  Thanks.

Yes, completely headless.

Start up, mining will start automatically.


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Eliovp..... would we need a VNC or Teamviewer builtin into the Linux OR.... the your management and monitoring module takes care of all the essential mining stuff.

I am keen on lights out operations, headless and KISS.

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January 09, 2017, 10:19:24 AM
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Question for you Phil.  I know that you said Eliovp's linux build will boot up and start mining automatically, but would the image straight from the factory be able to run headless?  Basically without a monitor, keyboard or a mouse plugged into it?  Will it boot without video connected to it if you set it to auto login and throw the batch file into the startup?  Thanks.

Yes, completely headless.

Start up, mining will start automatically.


Greetings

Eliovp..... would we need a VNC or Teamviewer builtin into the Linux OR.... the your management and monitoring module takes care of all the essential mining stuff.

I am keen on lights out operations, headless and KISS.

Manager takes care of almost everything. If you do need access for some reason you can always ssh into the system (you can use putty or some other client on Windows to do that.).

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