Antminer L3 - 250mh - 400watt Scrypt miner coming soon

[Albortz]

One side question, am i able to mine any other scrypt coin without a big hassle? or are the L3/3+ picky if its not LTC?

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[piratek]

One side question, am i able to mine any other scrypt coin without a big hassle? or are the L3/3+ picky if its not LTC?

I have had no issues mining any scrypt pool at all.  Notice I said pool.  If you want to solo mine you have other things you have to do.

[Albortz]

One side question, am i able to mine any other scrypt coin without a big hassle? or are the L3/3+ picky if its not LTC?

I have had no issues mining any scrypt pool at all.  Notice I said pool.  If you want to solo mine you have other things you have to do.

Perfect, can you tell me what? I have asked a couple of pages before but I guess the person answering, left it because he assumed i meant LTC solo mining and thats not really profitable

[piratek]

One side question, am i able to mine any other scrypt coin without a big hassle? or are the L3/3+ picky if its not LTC?

I have had no issues mining any scrypt pool at all.  Notice I said pool.  If you want to solo mine you have other things you have to do.

Perfect, can you tell me what? I have asked a couple of pages before but I guess the person answering, left it because he assumed i meant LTC solo mining and thats not really profitable

You can solo mine on sites like TBDice, depending on your hash rate you can do well there.  But it is the lottery!!

[wheelz1200]

One side question, am i able to mine any other scrypt coin without a big hassle? or are the L3/3+ picky if its not LTC?

I have had no issues mining any scrypt pool at all.  Notice I said pool.  If you want to solo mine you have other things you have to do.

Perfect, can you tell me what? I have asked a couple of pages before but I guess the person answering, left it because he assumed i meant LTC solo mining and thats not really profitable

Solo mining if not on a pool involves a little know how.  Much more than can be explained here in one post.  Some searches here or on the internet would be the first place and read everything you can....for now i would stick to a pool which is far much easier and less hassle.

[QuintLeo]

That still doesn't explain why sell them that cheap. They will slel out them even at 2k$, even before LTC Segwit happens, price is so cheap is really screams after broken car salesman or some scammer. Maybe takes as much money as you can, before company goes bye-bye

I doubt they will make x11 rigs. Baikal very efficent draws little power and is stable. Not much space for Bitman to enter. Now making ETH/ZEC ASIC is alredy an intresting option. Especially as Antpool has ZEC and ETH pools.

 ETH is probability zero, since it's going PoS "sometime soon" - though "soon" seems to keep getting pushed back.
 ETC market is probably too small to support an ASIC.

 ZEC/ZClassic/whatever that NEW forkoff thing is called perhaps. but I'm still trying to figure out what's keeping it's price out of the double-digit satoshi range like DOGE.

[numnutz2009]

Support replied to my tickets. The first reply was sayin they were checking stock thats why nothing was shipped the second reply gave me the bs firmware issue lie. I told them i paid $450 extra to have my stuff shipped on the 15th and since they failed to do that i want my $450 x 4 miners refunded back to me. They told me they cant refund me more than what i paid for the miners....the only problem is i paid $7300 not $1800. I also asked them if i have free power why would i pay them electricity for them mining for me when i should be mining with them myself using my own FREE power. Lets see what they say.

Oh and bitmainwarranty decided to login to their account now too lol.

[Searing]

Support replied to my tickets. The first reply was sayin they were checking stock thats why nothing was shipped the second reply gave me the bs firmware issue lie. I told them i paid $450 extra to have my stuff shipped on the 15th and since they failed to do that i want my $450 x 4 miners refunded back to me. They told me they cant refund me more than what i paid for the miners....the only problem is i paid $7300 not $1800. I also asked them if i have free power why would i pay them electricity for them mining for me when i should be mining with them myself using my own FREE power. Lets see what they say.

Oh and bitmainwarranty decided to login to their account now too lol.

I have 4 L3+'s outstanding with them as well, but the May 5th batch. I assume the same song and dance will come my way, in what you are going through.

So let me get this straight.

DO (or did) you have the option of a refund on the firmware lie or did they just offer to mine and you pay electric?

Nice to know the 4 L3+'s I was gonna get to vote FOR seg witness are now merrilly mining along to block seg witness. (Perhaps more if they just took my $$$
and got a couple more at their cost with my free loan...so lets see...maybe 6 mining on my dime to block seg witness with this scam)

Needless to say. NO one would have ordered anything under these guys knowing the stunt they pulled.

Frigging amazing!

I suppose you will come back saying NO refund was offered. Likely, they will simply ship miner late with no compensation on the May 5th batch. I suspect more lies in that is a much bigger
batch then the april batch....thus they probably have no need of the hash...thus the deal you have ...won't exist....now I know where all the former BFL and KNC executives went!

I mean really, if I'm gonna get screwed...at least send flowers/candy..take me out for a little dancing and dinner first. Sheesh.

[numnutz2009]

Support replied to my tickets. The first reply was sayin they were checking stock thats why nothing was shipped the second reply gave me the bs firmware issue lie. I told them i paid $450 extra to have my stuff shipped on the 15th and since they failed to do that i want my $450 x 4 miners refunded back to me. They told me they cant refund me more than what i paid for the miners....the only problem is i paid $7300 not $1800. I also asked them if i have free power why would i pay them electricity for them mining for me when i should be mining with them myself using my own FREE power. Lets see what they say.

Oh and bitmainwarranty decided to login to their account now too lol.

I have 4 L3+'s outstanding with them as well, but the May 5th batch. I assume the same song and dance will come my way, in what you are going through.

So let me get this straight.

DO (or did) you have the option of a refund on the firmware lie or did they just offer to mine and you pay electric?

Nice to know the 4 L3+'s I was gonna get to vote FOR seg witness are now merrilly mining along to block seg witness. (Perhaps more if they just took my $$$
and got a couple more at their cost with my free loan...so lets see...maybe 6 mining on my dime to block seg witness with this scam)

Needless to say. NO one would have ordered anything under these guys knowing the stunt they pulled.

Frigging amazing!

I suppose you will come back saying NO refund was offered. Likely, they will simply ship miner late with no compensation on the May 5th batch. I suspect more lies in that is a much bigger
batch then the april batch....thus they probably have no need of the hash...thus the deal you have ...won't exist....now I know where all the former BFL and KNC executives went!

I mean really, if I'm gonna get screwed...at least send flowers/candy..take me out for a little dancing and dinner first. Sheesh.

"Dear Customer

Sorry about that but currently we don't have the miners available to ship out now due to the firmware issues after double check with our engineer all these days.
We may only refund to you if you can't accept the compensation .
We'll update to your the exact compensation method after we confirm it today .
And the payment we received is 6.133btc for your order *******BLOCKED BECAUSE ITS NONE OF ANYONES BUSINESS******,we can request to refund it if you want can't accept the compensation with PPS payout after 1.5% commission fee and the electricity fees.

We can't refund you more than the order amount you have paid .
Sorry for the trouble and thanks for your understanding .

Best Regards
Sherry"

here is one of the replies i received. i didnt ask for more than i paid lol. im not that damn greedy. i asked for 10% originally so $730 and change but then i thought....wait they are mining with my machines and the delivery date is probably going to be after the date of the second batch so why the hell did i pay $450 more for the april 15th ship date batch? and thats when my request changed from 10% to i want my $1800 ($450 x 4) refunded and im not paying for power costs to run my miners. i mean i have FREE POWER! i dont get how they think offering .05 per kwh prices to someone that pays 0 for power is legit. if that wasnt bad enough....coinotrons PPLNS fees are 1% ant bitmain wants to charge me 1.5% for PPS....but what if i use PPLNS....so im being forced to pay extra fees and power costs to run miners to block the activation of a feature i want activated and i paid more money to not get my miners on time and im supposed to be alright with this?? over the years i have supported bitmain and promoted them and bashed people that had unrealistic expectations about bitmain and they turn around and hold my shit hostage while their boss goes on a twitter bender calling people morons and telling them to go "fuck your mom if you want to fuck". It seems every ltc miner this company produced had some drama with it. the l1 got refunded yes with a slight bonus but nothing near what would have been mined with them then they come out with the l3+ making me think the l1 wasnt scraped like they claimed it was and they just wanted a loan with little interest attached to it and now this drama bomb! we need new competition to step up to the plate. if this BS keeps going bitmain will be run into the ground and will implode. usually we see this from failing bitcoin startups not from seasoned companies/asic producers. You dont have a child the keys to your 200mph sports car....and this is why you shouldnt hand a multi million dollar company to someone as young at this guy....he clearly has poor self control and feels like his asian baby cock is huge from all the power he thinks he has lol.

[tomothy]

Do we know if they are using AsicBoost on the L3+'s? I know there has been speculation regarding the S9's but I haven't seen anyone do an analysis of the L3+s.
Second point/question is if they really are unleashing more or less double the current network hashpower, isn't it reasonable that they test the units to make sure they don't break shortly after delivery? We know there were some issues with the firmware of the L3s, I'm wondering if they're having heating/cooling trouble with the L3+s?  I think it would be helpful to know if anyone has received the L3+s(maybe someone from china) and if they can comment on whether they've had issues mining/signalling segwit on LTC. The reason I don't necessarily think there would be any trouble re/segwit is because you can use the current L3s to signal segwit now. The L3+ is essentially to l3's taped together so I'm not sure why there would be any super trouble. Re: mining as delayed, doesn't it seem profitable to simply mine right now as units are delayed with other machiens? At least to try and start getting back some ROI? Sure it sucks but cash now is better than cash later?

Last but not least, if they double/triple hashpower, does anyone have an idea as to what mining returns would be assuming ltc/usd price remains around $10usd? I'm not sure how much difficulty would increase if ltcs current hashpower doubled/tripled. Is it naive to think with added hash/security, we might have a price pump too? But yeah, overall it's a crappy situation, but it could still always be worse.... :/

[VoskCoin]

So based off the current situation of this . . and the already large LTC diff increase. Would you still recommend ordering L3+ for the July ship date? I would like to order one however I'm worried it will not be very effective by the time I receive it (or maybe receive it at the april ship rates!)

[numnutz2009]

So based off the current situation of this . . and the already large LTC diff increase. Would you still recommend ordering L3+ for the July ship date? I would like to order one however I'm worried it will not be very effective by the time I receive it (or maybe receive it at the april ship rates!)

dont order anything until this pissing contest ends. we are posting telling you our miners are being stolen from us and used without our permission to do something we didnt want them to do to begin with....so ya...dont buy anything unless your willing to lose it immediately after paying.

[VoskCoin]

So based off the current situation of this . . and the already large LTC diff increase. Would you still recommend ordering L3+ for the July ship date? I would like to order one however I'm worried it will not be very effective by the time I receive it (or maybe receive it at the april ship rates!)

dont order anything until this pissing contest ends. we are posting telling you our miners are being stolen from us and used without our permission to do something we didnt want them to do to begin with....so ya...dont buy anything unless your willing to lose it immediately after paying.

10-4 O_O

[cryptotore]

Don't worry, be happy!

Im confident Bitmain will ship my may order on time! 😄

[piratek]

Don't worry, be happy!

Im confident Bitmain will ship my may order on time! 😄

Are you in the May 2018 batch? 

[MachineZero]

Has ne one else noticed bitmains customer support has stopped responding completely?? Whats even more weird is the user bitmainwarranty on bitcoin talk last logged in on april 15th and bitmains email ticketing system stopped replying to me at around the same time. That is sketchy as hell. Maybe im lookin too much into it but 2 separate groups have stopped showing any activity at the same time about and all while this huge clusterfuck that the bitmain owner dropped on customers happens.

Also idk about u guys but i have yet to receive the notice that was posted on reddit. I couldnt even find the original post that the panda guy quoted and screen shotted.

I get 1 response a day from Bella. Takes several days for a communication to complete properly with once a day back and forth

[Maxumark]

 ETH is probability zero, since it's going PoS "sometime soon" - though "soon" seems to keep getting pushed back.
 ETC market is probably too small to support an ASIC.
 
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While I don't disagree with your conclusions I do want to point out that ETH has 5 x the hashrate and 9 x the market cap that LTC does.

ETH market cap of about 4.5 Billion is second only to BTC, while LTC market cap of .5 Billion places it in 4th position, and about equal to #5 Dash.   

Just for the sake of any newbies following along.       

[numnutz2009]

Don't worry, be happy!

Im confident Bitmain will ship my may order on time! 😄

lol u keep being positive. what i can tell you for sure is my order was supposed to be shipped on the 15th of april and i have 0 to show for my $7300 plus shipping. that and my miners are being used against the network and no official announcement has been sent to me telling me of any delays caused by firmware. i shouldnt have to ask them for an update....its their responsibility to tell me what is going on and they havent. i hope your miners come on time i really do but just remember the april 15th orders will go out before yours because they were made before yours so your probably going to see delays with your order as well.

either way bitmain got back to me and we r sorting through a resolution now. i finally got a real response not a cut and paste response so thats a step in the right direction.

[bearsworth]

Don't worry, be happy!

Im confident Bitmain will ship my may order on time! 😄

lol u keep being positive. what i can tell you for sure is my order was supposed to be shipped on the 15th of april and i have 0 to show for my $7300 plus shipping. that and my miners are being used against the network and no official announcement has been sent to me telling me of any delays caused by firmware. i shouldnt have to ask them for an update....its their responsibility to tell me what is going on and they havent. i hope your miners come on time i really do but just remember the april 15th orders will go out before yours because they were made before yours so your probably going to see delays with your order as well.

either way bitmain got back to me and we r sorting through a resolution now. i finally got a real response not a cut and paste response so thats a step in the right direction.

My guess is that they already have the miners and have been using them already. The firmware update was to buy time for mining. It sucks for April batch, but we'll see. They are just unloading old stock but realized that maybe they can delay segwit and earn more money before they start releasing.

[micairvas]

Don't worry, be happy!

Im confident Bitmain will ship my may order on time! 😄

lol u keep being positive. what i can tell you for sure is my order was supposed to be shipped on the 15th of april and i have 0 to show for my $7300 plus shipping. that and my miners are being used against the network and no official announcement has been sent to me telling me of any delays caused by firmware. i shouldnt have to ask them for an update....its their responsibility to tell me what is going on and they havent. i hope your miners come on time i really do but just remember the april 15th orders will go out before yours because they were made before yours so your probably going to see delays with your order as well.

either way bitmain got back to me and we r sorting through a resolution now. i finally got a real response not a cut and paste response so thats a step in the right direction.

Man stop crying, they offer you full refund so take it. Dont talk about free electricity dumbshit, because that is stealing/cheating in every country of the world. Also if u are experienced buyer of Bitmain products, you should know that they late with their shipments all the time.
If you want to sell your preordered miner I will pay you full refund + your "electricity" costs about 700 usd you asked, but we need to manage this with Bitmain. But I suppose you will not accept this agreement, because you know how much money you can get with miners. I ordered miners for for 5th May and I already calculated that I will get them 2-3 weeks later. Greedy is your problem mate, anyway you have choice to get your money back.