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[crackfoo]

Hello pool administrator! Add Azart coin! The X11 Algorithm. PoW+MN. The project started a few days ago, at the moment very profitable mining and masternodes! The main topic of the project here.

needs to be on an exchange we support before we can add it.

Thanks

[crackfoo]

We've adjusted the profitability calculation for x13 to mBTC/GH/day from MH. Please adjust your profit switching scripts accordingly

[Vokas123]

Seems like Nicehash owners didn't read the announcment.

Wasted hash...

https://pictr.com/images/2018/05/28/a403be0b8f19ae8f4b99bf64a67dcbb5.jpg

[Belzi]

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Stone (neoscrypt)
Wallet: SXnmZTfcG8NMPbocvQRe1sCgYUp5MHhzHw


Monster (neoscrypt)
Wallet: MUoWvrC83biu8uFjtAesmbLFMvCLgGLM9F

[4ward]

We've adjusted the profitability calculation for x13 to mBTC/GH/day from MH. Please adjust your profit switching scripts accordingly

Can you add the units to the API so it would be updated automatically?

[crackfoo]

We've adjusted the profitability calculation for x13 to mBTC/GH/day from MH. Please adjust your profit switching scripts accordingly

Can you add the units to the API so it would be updated automatically?

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[HighFly87]

Explain me this please: I mined 4.9 GIN from GIN blocks but received only 4.4. Where my remaining 0.5 (10%)?

[JaredKaragen]

Explain me this please: I mined 4.9 GIN from GIN blocks but received only 4.4. Where my remaining 0.5 (10%)?

Example
The pool mines some GIN blocks among others.  You get a % value (converted to BTC as that's how the pool works) based on the exchange rate.

Coins get sent to be exchanged and divided among people whom have a % share.

BTC returns from the exchange; and are divided among the miners.

Since you want to be paid in GIN;  you wait for GIN to get mined to cover your share.   When they are mined and given to you;  their value is based on the previous sale.






This is how I understand the process to work.   There are more variables at play when it comes to mining something on a multi pool because this is not a solo mining pool. 

You are taking an estimate (4.9GIN) and treating it as an actual value.... which it is NOT.  It is an estimate.  If it was an actual value, it would have said 4.4;  but since that can't be determined until the BTC returns from the exchange, its is called an estimate.

[Onecoiner1]

Looks like there is an issue with CANN, none of the txid can be found on blocker explore starting yesterday sometime.  Looks like it start around the following txid

https://www.zpool.ca/explorer/CANN?txid=2797e5ecbbf4f28e635fb99f4680e113d3dbcc0391a7bb3cec9146a688ba9ffa

[HighFly87]

Explain me this please: I mined 4.9 GIN from GIN blocks but received only 4.4. Where my remaining 0.5 (10%)?

Example
The pool mines some GIN blocks among others.  You get a % value (converted to BTC as that's how the pool works) based on the exchange rate.

Coins get sent to be exchanged and divided among people whom have a % share.

BTC returns from the exchange; and are divided among the miners.

Since you want to be paid in GIN;  you wait for GIN to get mined to cover your share.   When they are mined and given to you;  their value is based on the previous sale.

This is how I understand the process to work.   There are more variables at play when it comes to mining something on a multi pool because this is not a solo mining pool. 

You are taking an estimate (4.9GIN) and treating it as an actual value.... which it is NOT.  It is an estimate.  If it was an actual value, it would have said 4.4;  but since that can't be determined until the BTC returns from the exchange, its is called an estimate.

Not my situation.
As I said, i mined 4.9 GIN from GIN blocks, its not estimate value, it is a sum of rewards per blocks. The only explanation i have is that GIN coins i mined at first sold and than bought back with 10% higher price. And it is super ridiculous.

[crackfoo]

Explain me this please: I mined 4.9 GIN from GIN blocks but received only 4.4. Where my remaining 0.5 (10%)?

Example
The pool mines some GIN blocks among others.  You get a % value (converted to BTC as that's how the pool works) based on the exchange rate.

Coins get sent to be exchanged and divided among people whom have a % share.

BTC returns from the exchange; and are divided among the miners.

Since you want to be paid in GIN;  you wait for GIN to get mined to cover your share.   When they are mined and given to you;  their value is based on the previous sale.

This is how I understand the process to work.   There are more variables at play when it comes to mining something on a multi pool because this is not a solo mining pool. 

You are taking an estimate (4.9GIN) and treating it as an actual value.... which it is NOT.  It is an estimate.  If it was an actual value, it would have said 4.4;  but since that can't be determined until the BTC returns from the exchange, its is called an estimate.

Not my situation.
As I said, i mined 4.9 GIN from GIN blocks, its not estimate value, it is a sum of rewards per blocks. The only explanation i have is that GIN coins i mined at first sold and than bought back with 10% higher price. And it is super ridiculous.

This isn't a solo pool. All blocks are pegged to exchange prices regardless. You get BTC for your work and it buys you your payout coins, based of exchange prices.

[JaredKaragen]

Explain me this please: I mined 4.9 GIN from GIN blocks but received only 4.4. Where my remaining 0.5 (10%)?

Example
The pool mines some GIN blocks among others.  You get a % value (converted to BTC as that's how the pool works) based on the exchange rate.

Coins get sent to be exchanged and divided among people whom have a % share.

BTC returns from the exchange; and are divided among the miners.

Since you want to be paid in GIN;  you wait for GIN to get mined to cover your share.   When they are mined and given to you;  their value is based on the previous sale.

This is how I understand the process to work.   There are more variables at play when it comes to mining something on a multi pool because this is not a solo mining pool.  

You are taking an estimate (4.9GIN) and treating it as an actual value.... which it is NOT.  It is an estimate.  If it was an actual value, it would have said 4.4;  but since that can't be determined until the BTC returns from the exchange, its is called an estimate.

Not my situation.
As I said, i mined 4.9 GIN from GIN blocks, its not estimate value, it is a sum of rewards per blocks. The only explanation i have is that GIN coins i mined at first sold and than bought back with 10% higher price. And it is super ridiculous.

I suggest re-reading my original reply.

You are not understanding the process, and more you are not understanding that initial shares of all coins mined is the estimate value before those coins go to be sold on the exchange.  
Only when the BTC returns from the exchange, do you know the actual value of your (% share in BTC) share mined from those coins
Then the pool will wait for more of your payout coin to be mined, and instead of selling some at the exchange, it can be exchanged by the pool internally at market rate to accumulate your payout.

On the mainpage of zpool.ca it says:
"This is NOT a solo mining pool. All mining is pegged to exchange prices."

Most algos have more than 1 coin on them.   Thus;  a LOT of variables (each coin) can have an effect on the overall value of the estimate after those coins pay a TX to go to the exchange, pay an exchange fee, then pay a tx fee to come back....      If this is a problem, please use a solo pool.

I added emphasis on the word estimate in my original reply, because its an important key factor that people seem to go to lengths to overlook.

[mccoy0210]

Hi guys! Im a newbie. Can anyone help me

Im hashing for x16r algorithm but it seems im not getting it to my last 50 earnings.

Im using nemos miner 3.1
MSI 1080ti - driver version 397.93


Thank you in advance,
McCoy

[HighFly87]

The only explanation i have is that GIN coins i mined at first sold and than bought back with 10% higher price. And it is super ridiculous.

This isn't a solo pool. All blocks are pegged to exchange prices regardless. You get BTC for your work and it buys you your payout coins, based of exchange prices.

So thats mean that i am right. You selling all mined coins and than buying them back with higher prices (mostly) wasting quite a lot.

[JaredKaragen]

The only explanation i have is that GIN coins i mined at first sold and than bought back with 10% higher price. And it is super ridiculous.

This isn't a solo pool. All blocks are pegged to exchange prices regardless. You get BTC for your work and it buys you your payout coins, based of exchange prices.

So thats mean that i am right. You selling all mined coins and than buying them back with higher prices (mostly) wasting quite a lot.

beczuse you get a % share of what is sold;  not what you want in return.   You can't take "your cut" from pool's earnings until "the next round".  So;  no.  In no way is the pool "buying them back".  Re-read my last two replies.  This exact mechanic is what makes it an earnings estimate.

An auto exchanging multipool functions quite differently than a solo pool.   

[fuelrod]

Has anyone else seen this.  I was watching my miners (rented from NiceHash) around 10:35 EST and as coins were being found in the Pool, I was not getting credited my share.  Then for one scan of the web page is showed I'd received a 22% share of Vivo, then on the next web refresh it was gone.  You can see by the graph I was clearly mining but I was not being credited any coins that were found at the time.  Since I happened to be watching I saw my miners were in good shape, no disconnects, etc.  Moreover, why would one coin show up in my wallet at 22% share and then disappear?  I have stopped all my miners until someone at ZPool can explain this.  I've ask for support on their Discord server but no reply as of yet.  I had heard good things about this pool so I started mining with them about 2 weeks ago, but this makes me question everything.  If I had not been watching with my own eyes, I would never have caught it.  Was I wrong, and these guys are not trust worthy?  I caution everyone to keep a close eye on there miners if you continue to mine with them.

http://jerm.hashcube.com/Zpool-issue.jpg

[crackfoo]

Has anyone else seen this.  I was watching my miners (rented from NiceHash) around 10:35 EST and as coins were being found in the Pool, I was not getting credited my share.  Then for one scan of the web page is showed I'd received a 22% share of Vivo, then on the next web refresh it was gone.  You can see by the graph I was clearly mining but I was not being credited any coins that were found at the time.  Since I happened to be watching I saw my miners were in good shape, no disconnects, etc.  Moreover, why would one coin show up in my wallet at 22% share and then disappear?  I have stopped all my miners until someone at ZPool can explain this.  I've ask for support on their Discord server but no reply as of yet.  I had heard good things about this pool so I started mining with them about 2 weeks ago, but this makes me question everything.  If I had not been watching with my own eyes, I would never have caught it.  Was I wrong, and these guys are not trust worthy?  I caution everyone to keep a close eye on there miners if you continue to mine with them.

there were a few vivo orphans around that time from what I can tell. They get removed if they've been orphaned in the blockchain....

[fuelrod]

Has anyone else seen this.  I was watching my miners (rented from NiceHash) around 10:35 EST and as coins were being found in the Pool, I was not getting credited my share.  Then for one scan of the web page is showed I'd received a 22% share of Vivo, then on the next web refresh it was gone.  You can see by the graph I was clearly mining but I was not being credited any coins that were found at the time.  Since I happened to be watching I saw my miners were in good shape, no disconnects, etc.  Moreover, why would one coin show up in my wallet at 22% share and then disappear?  I have stopped all my miners until someone at ZPool can explain this.  I've ask for support on their Discord server but no reply as of yet.  I had heard good things about this pool so I started mining with them about 2 weeks ago, but this makes me question everything.  If I had not been watching with my own eyes, I would never have caught it.  Was I wrong, and these guys are not trust worthy?  I caution everyone to keep a close eye on there miners if you continue to mine with them.

http://jerm.hashcube.com/Zpool-issue.jpg

there were a few vivo orphans around that time from what I can tell. They get removed if they've been orphaned in the blockchain....

My miner for the neoscrypt algo was going for about 5 minutes at that time, and it was my miner that found the coins (see screenshot, they are confirmed).  Also, multiple coins were found, not just Vivo, I'm just using that coin as an example.  I was not getting credit for any of them.  I should have been getting about 20% of the of all the coins found around that time for that short time frame.  I definitely got screwed, it was not orphaned coins.

http://jerm.hashcube.com/Zpool-issue2.jpg

[fuelrod]

Has anyone else seen this.  I was watching my miners (rented from NiceHash) around 10:35 EST and as coins were being found in the Pool, I was not getting credited my share.  Then for one scan of the web page is showed I'd received a 22% share of Vivo, then on the next web refresh it was gone.  You can see by the graph I was clearly mining but I was not being credited any coins that were found at the time.  Since I happened to be watching I saw my miners were in good shape, no disconnects, etc.  Moreover, why would one coin show up in my wallet at 22% share and then disappear?  I have stopped all my miners until someone at ZPool can explain this.  I've ask for support on their Discord server but no reply as of yet.  I had heard good things about this pool so I started mining with them about 2 weeks ago, but this makes me question everything.  If I had not been watching with my own eyes, I would never have caught it.  Was I wrong, and these guys are not trust worthy?  I caution everyone to keep a close eye on there miners if you continue to mine with them.

http://jerm.hashcube.com/Zpool-issue.jpg

there were a few vivo orphans around that time from what I can tell. They get removed if they've been orphaned in the blockchain....

My miner for the neoscrypt algo was going for about 5 minutes at that time, and it was my miner that found the coins (see screenshot, they are confirmed).  Also, multiple coins were found, not just Vivo, I'm just using that coin as an example.  I was not getting credit for any of them.  I should have been getting about 20% of the of all the coins found around that time for that short time frame.  I definitely got screwed, it was not orphaned coins.

http://jerm.hashcube.com/Zpool-issue2.jpg

To be clear, I'm not saying there weren't some orphaned coins, what I'm saying is of the ones that were found none were credited in my wallet and it was more than just the Vivo coin.  This has happened in the past where I would see mining activity but no increase in the balance of my wallet.  I just assumed no coins were found.  Now I'm starting to think coins were found but I didn't get any credit. And without constantly watching it no one would ever know.  If this is not a bug of some sort then ZPool is seriously shady.

[JaredKaragen]

Immature coins can be invalidated via orphan anything before they are "confirmed".

Block withholding attacks are a prime example on how you can suddenly loose earnings.

But, I don't see anything far out of whack there in your photos.

Remember, values of what was mined is not certain until it is in the final confirmed balance waiting to be paid out.