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[ocminer]

@Ocminer, Please exercise timestamp honesty. If you have grudge with the original pascal please do not bring it here.

Your block 16472 with timestamp:1489997320 = Mon, 20 Mar 2017 08:08:40 GMT but look at my logfile with payload removed, your blocks came with 2 minutes 20 seconds late. Please fix your time and do not do whatever is that you are doing in pascal lite.

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20/03/2017 08:10:46.516 TID:00000CB4 [Error] <TPCOperationsComp> Invalid new block 16472: Proof of work is higher than target
20/03/2017 08:10:46.516 TID:00000CB4 [Error] <TJSONRPCTcpIpClient> Sending Error JSON RPC id () : Error: Proof of work is higher than target payload: timestamp:1489997444 nonce:638370917
20/03/2017 08:10:58.646 TID:00000CB4 [Error] <TPCOperationsComp> Invalid new block 16472: Proof of work is higher than target
20/03/2017 08:10:58.647 TID:00000CB4 [Error] <TJSONRPCTcpIpClient> Sending Error JSON RPC id () : Error: Proof of work is higher than target payload: timestamp:1489997455 nonce:3071193822
20/03/2017 08:10:59.586 TID:00000CB4 [Error] <TPCOperationsComp> Invalid new block 16472: Proof of work is higher than target
20/03/2017 08:10:59.586 TID:00000CB4 [Error] <TJSONRPCTcpIpClient> Sending Error JSON RPC id () : Error: Proof of work is higher than target payload: timestamp:1489997454 nonce:2724550670
20/03/2017 08:11:00.805 TID:00000A90 [Update] <TPCOperationsComp> New block height:16472 nOnce:2028982788 timestamp:1489997320 Operations:0 Fee:0 SafeBoxBalance:8236500000=8236500000 PoW:00000000000004AD156B527EFC0D33B1481119AA5DEB757540AF1D9B42FB82D1 Operations previous Safe Box hash:912B0CED40D4BB5C92D33B79D2A1051185B603460D0AF57EC1CD748995BD2A3C Future old Safe Box hash for next block:BE19AC69E08A69E2EC361589234F4DA0B2821565338E88CA3DBE08B92BB45639
20/03/2017 08:11:00.807 TID:00000668 [Error] <TPCOperationsComp> Invalid new block 16472: block (16472) is not new position (16473)
20/03/2017 08:11:00.807 TID:00000D6C [Error] <TPCOperationsComp> Invalid new block 16472: block (16472) is not new position (16473)
20/03/2017 08:11:01.155 TID:00000668 [Info] <GetNewBlockChainFromClient> My blockchain is ok! Need to download new blocks starting at 16473
20/03/2017 08:11:08.715 TID:00000CB4 [Error] <TPCOperationsComp> Invalid new block 16473: Proof of work is higher than target
20/03/2017 08:11:08.715 TID:00000CB4 [Error] <TJSONRPCTcpIpClient> Sending Error JSON RPC id () : Error: Proof of work is higher than target payload: timestamp:1489997465 nonce:2921113476
20/03/2017 08:11:26.850 TID:00000CB4 [Error] <TPCOperationsComp> Invalid new block 16473: Proof of work is higher than target
20/03/2017 08:11:26.850 TID:00000CB4 [Error] <TJSONRPCTcpIpClient> Sending Error JSON RPC id () : Error: Proof of work is higher than target payload: timestamp:1489997484 nonce:1180994566

Timestamp on the server is okay, it's synchronized via NTP every 24h - so that can't be the problem.

I'm simply hashing and sending what comes from the miner, i'll check if maybe some miner sends an invalid timestamp but I should already be checking for that in my stratum server - so i'm unsure what the problem could be here.

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[adaseb]

It doesn't matter if the timestamp is in the past, it doesn't give the miner any advantage. That's why we never issued a fix for that.

However the timestamp cannot be any more than +15 seconds into the future. Because if a miner finds a block with a timestamp into the future, no other blocks would of been accepted until the current time was equal to or greater than that block. So that's why we put out a fix for it.

[ulfsaar]

It doesn't matter if the timestamp is in the past, it doesn't give the miner any advantage. That's why we never issued a fix for that.

However the timestamp cannot be any more than +15 seconds into the future. Because if a miner finds a block with a timestamp into the future, no other blocks would of been accepted until the current time was equal to or greater than that block. So that's why we put out a fix for it.

I understand that but it is awfully ugly and suspiciously looking to received blocks with past timestamp. If he has no intention to hold blocks why not send blocks with real timestamp.

This is the issue with the original pascal, the timestamp, past or future but still not real.

[ocminer]

It doesn't matter if the timestamp is in the past, it doesn't give the miner any advantage. That's why we never issued a fix for that.

However the timestamp cannot be any more than +15 seconds into the future. Because if a miner finds a block with a timestamp into the future, no other blocks would of been accepted until the current time was equal to or greater than that block. So that's why we put out a fix for it.

I understand that but it is awfully ugly and suspiciously looking to received blocks with past timestamp. If he has no intention to hold blocks why not send blocks with real timestamp.

This is the issue with the original pascal, the timestamp, past or future but still not real.

Maybe some miner software is not rolling time correctly, the role of the pool with the timestamp is just a "relay" - I hash whatever comes from the miner including timestamp. Afterwards modification of the timestamp is not possible because it was hashed earlier, so if I would "mod" the timestamp the hash would become invalid.

Maybe some miner software is not roliing/updating time correctly, I've tested with nicehash on the pool but it's rather unlikely that they have that issue.

[adaseb]

I think I know what you guys are seeing.

This is some issue with the way the blocks are relayed throughout the network. This happened before Suprnova's pool. A block would appear but it had a timestamp of 5-10 minutes behind. I think for some people the block appears right away in their blockchain wallet but for others its delayed by a few minutes.

We will look into the coding and find out why this happens. Maybe this was introduced when we added NAT.

[ulfsaar]

It doesn't matter if the timestamp is in the past, it doesn't give the miner any advantage. That's why we never issued a fix for that.

However the timestamp cannot be any more than +15 seconds into the future. Because if a miner finds a block with a timestamp into the future, no other blocks would of been accepted until the current time was equal to or greater than that block. So that's why we put out a fix for it.

I understand that but it is awfully ugly and suspiciously looking to received blocks with past timestamp. If he has no intention to hold blocks why not send blocks with real timestamp.

This is the issue with the original pascal, the timestamp, past or future but still not real.

Maybe some miner software is not rolling time correctly, the role of the pool with the timestamp is just a "relay" - I hash whatever comes from the miner including timestamp. Afterwards modification of the timestamp is not possible because it was hashed earlier, so if I would "mod" the timestamp the hash would become invalid.

Maybe some miner software is not roliing/updating time correctly, I've tested with nicehash on the pool but it's rather unlikely that they have that issue.

Pardon if it appears I have accused you or something. I just do not want to see the chaos in original here.

[max2000irc]

Is there any problem with the explorer?

Thanks

[smic]

dear DEV, proof that this coin is a fake coin is obvious!
always just one pool for mining!
pasl.fairpool.xyz (dead) ... and then look at the case ocminer (Suprnova)
Thank goodness that once existed 51%? ....
publishes sha256t python module to the other pools and we'll see if you're honest or a scam!

[max2000irc]

Hope pasl.fairpool.xyz will be back up , because I mined some coins there , and even talked with the admin and he said it will be ok .

We should wait for him before accusing.

Thanks

[smic]

Hope pasl.fairpool.xyz will be back up , because I mined some coins there , and even talked with the admin and he said it will be ok .

We should wait for him before accusing.

Thanks

the real coin publish for all the source code for pools and more.... do you use github???
I do not think you want a list ....

[ocminer]

Hope pasl.fairpool.xyz will be back up , because I mined some coins there , and even talked with the admin and he said it will be ok .

We should wait for him before accusing.

Thanks

the real coin publish for all the source code for pools and more.... do you use github???

Real coin? You mean the other coin? They published nothing for pools, just a shitty miner at the beginning, everything else (sgminer, ccminer etc) came from their respective authors

[ulfsaar]

dear DEV, proof that this coin is a fake coin is obvious!
always just one pool for mining!
pasl.fairpool.xyz (dead) ... and then look at the case ocminer (Suprnova)
Thank goodness that once existed 51%? ....
publishes sha256t python module to the other pools and we'll see if you're honest or a scam!

please, act as an adult. certainly you can see progress and if you cant back read for history, don't say anything derogatory.

If you cant code your pool, I think you can purchase it from ocminer for the right price.

[adaseb]

Its Sunday, xiphon is probably either sleeping or taking a break from non stop coding for the last 2 weeks.

Pools crash from time to time. Lucky we got another pool.

No reason for panic.

[ulfsaar]

Hope pasl.fairpool.xyz will be back up , because I mined some coins there , and even talked with the admin and he said it will be ok .

We should wait for him before accusing.

Thanks

the real coin publish for all the source code for pools and more.... do you use github???
I do not think you want a list ....

I see your concern. You cant code your own. we'll sorry.

[smic]

Hope pasl.fairpool.xyz will be back up , because I mined some coins there , and even talked with the admin and he said it will be ok .

We should wait for him before accusing.

Thanks

the real coin publish for all the source code for pools and more.... do you use github???

Real coin? You mean the other coin? They published nothing for pools, just a shitty miner at the beginning, everything else (sgminer, ccminer etc) came from their respective authors

ahahahahah it's true .... ahahahahah .you don't use hash module and another software from anothers authors.... ahahahah. do you have write all codes by you for yours all pools?

[lockepi]

Hope pasl.fairpool.xyz will be back up , because I mined some coins there , and even talked with the admin and he said it will be ok .

We should wait for him before accusing.

Thanks

the real coin publish for all the source code for pools and more.... do you use github???

Real coin? You mean the other coin? They published nothing for pools, just a shitty miner at the beginning, everything else (sgminer, ccminer etc) came from their respective authors

ahahahahah it's true .... ahahahahah .you don't use hash module and another software from anothers authors.... ahahahah. do you have write all codes by you for yours all pools?

we know were a real coin when there is fud thank you. you really think your rep is higher than ocminer

[norcia]

I think PASCAL verry cheap on poloniex now
I want to Buy it

[ocminer]

Hope pasl.fairpool.xyz will be back up , because I mined some coins there , and even talked with the admin and he said it will be ok .

We should wait for him before accusing.

Thanks

the real coin publish for all the source code for pools and more.... do you use github???

Real coin? You mean the other coin? They published nothing for pools, just a shitty miner at the beginning, everything else (sgminer, ccminer etc) came from their respective authors

ahahahahah it's true .... ahahahahah .you don't use hash module and another software from anothers authors.... ahahahah. do you have write all codes by you for yours all pools?

Yep, all the hashing stuff is done all alone by myself. That's actually how many pool ops make money, people / farms buy that code from them 

[lockepi]

I think PASCAL verry cheap on poloniex now
I want to Buy it

This is pascal lite

if pascal is cheap on poloniex then we are 40 times cheaper

[smic]

Hope pasl.fairpool.xyz will be back up , because I mined some coins there , and even talked with the admin and he said it will be ok .

We should wait for him before accusing.

Thanks

the real coin publish for all the source code for pools and more.... do you use github???

Real coin? You mean the other coin? They published nothing for pools, just a shitty miner at the beginning, everything else (sgminer, ccminer etc) came from their respective authors

ahahahahah it's true .... ahahahahah .you don't use hash module and another software from anothers authors.... ahahahah. do you have write all codes by you for yours all pools?

Yep, all the hashing stuff is done all alone by myself. That's actually how many pool ops make money, people / farms buy that code from them  

do you have write all hash modules for all coins for your pools ? do you not use github for research anything? i am not sure. ocminer don't write rubbish please.
this is not an attack on your person ... just be honest...
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