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February 12, 2018, 04:25:12 PM
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question to nvidia users should i mine only neoscrypt algo with 1060-1070 cards or all algos that pool supports?

not much point using a multiminer with just one algo!

right now my 1060s top 5: tribus, neoscrypt, x17, phi, lyra2re2

and 1070s: skein, phi, x17, bitcore, lyra2re2

(obv pool dependent and subject to change)
I mine neoscrypt for 24 hours with my all cards 15x1060 and 9x1070 @zergpool and the profit seems too low .Do you think 24hours is enough for the calculation?
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February 12, 2018, 04:48:02 PM
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question to nvidia users should i mine only neoscrypt algo with 1060-1070 cards or all algos that pool supports?

not much point using a multiminer with just one algo!

right now my 1060s top 5: tribus, neoscrypt, x17, phi, lyra2re2

and 1070s: skein, phi, x17, bitcore, lyra2re2

(obv pool dependent and subject to change)
I mine neoscrypt for 24 hours with my all cards 15x1060 and 9x1070 @zergpool and the profit seems too low .Do you think 24hours is enough for the calculation?

profits seem too low everywhere at the moment Undecided
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February 12, 2018, 05:21:16 PM
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question to nvidia users should i mine only neoscrypt algo with 1060-1070 cards or all algos that pool supports?

not much point using a multiminer with just one algo!

right now my 1060s top 5: tribus, neoscrypt, x17, phi, lyra2re2

and 1070s: skein, phi, x17, bitcore, lyra2re2

(obv pool dependent and subject to change)
I mine neoscrypt for 24 hours with my all cards 15x1060 and 9x1070 @zergpool and the profit seems too low .Do you think 24hours is enough for the calculation?

top 3 profit algos are x17, blake2s, and phi

So if you mine neoscrypt for 24 hours you will have low profits

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February 12, 2018, 07:57:17 PM
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Can anyone please provide some guidance on the popular over/underclock settings for each algo?

I got 3x 1070 TI and currently running all 3 on 75% power limit, +200 core, +700 memory in AfterBurner and it's stable for everything. Just wanted to optimize per-algo now since it's a possibility with the latest Nemos update. Thanks! Smiley
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February 12, 2018, 08:56:54 PM
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question to nvidia users should i mine only neoscrypt algo with 1060-1070 cards or all algos that pool supports?

not much point using a multiminer with just one algo!

right now my 1060s top 5: tribus, neoscrypt, x17, phi, lyra2re2

and 1070s: skein, phi, x17, bitcore, lyra2re2

(obv pool dependent and subject to change)
I mine neoscrypt for 24 hours with my all cards 15x1060 and 9x1070 @zergpool and the profit seems too low .Do you think 24hours is enough for the calculation?

top 3 profit algos are x17, blake2s, and phi

So if you mine neoscrypt for 24 hours you will have low profits
I mine on zergpool do you recommend me x17 blake2s and phi on that pool?
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February 12, 2018, 09:17:07 PM
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To all using ahaspoolplus be it with NemosMinerPlus or NemosMiner 2.4.2.

There will be a reboot of the server performing calculations some time tomorrow.
Impacts on your rig will be:
•   During reboot (couple minutes) = Your rig will stick to mine what they are mining. [=> no impact]
•   After reboot (20 to 30 minutes) =  Your rig will act as if using ahashpool (Not 24rh). After that, back to normal ahashpoolplus estimations. Code needs around this time to learn. [=> low impact]

So… Should not have a big impact on earnings but wanted to make sure you’re aware of what happens.

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February 13, 2018, 03:21:12 AM
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hi guys, just got updated from GitHub and saw this error below
any idea?

thanks


PS>TerminatingError(Invoke-WebRequest): "Unable to connect to the remote server"
Add-Member : Cannot add a member with the name "CryptoNight" because a member with that name already exists. To
overwrite the member anyway, add the Force parameter to your command.
At C:\NemosMiner-v2.4.2-master\NemosMiner-v2.4.2.ps1:111 char:62
+ ... h {$Pools | Add-Member $_ ($AllPools | Where Algorithm -EQ $_ | Sort  ...
+                 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    + CategoryInfo          : InvalidOperation: (@{Bitcore=; Bla...Hodl=; Decred=}:PSObject) [Add-Member],
InvalidOperationException
    + FullyQualifiedErrorId : MemberAlreadyExists,Microsoft.PowerShell.Commands.AddMemberCommand
Add-Member : Cannot add a member with the name "CryptoNight" because a member with that name already exists. To overwrite the member anyway, add the Force parameter to your
command.
At C:\NemosMiner-v2.4.2-master\NemosMiner-v2.4.2.ps1:111 char:62
+ ... h {$Pools | Add-Member $_ ($AllPools | Where Algorithm -EQ $_ | Sort  ...
+                 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    + CategoryInfo          : InvalidOperation: (@{Bitcore=; Bla...Hodl=; Decred=}:PSObject) [Add-Member], InvalidOperationException
    + FullyQualifiedErrorId : MemberAlreadyExists,Microsoft.PowerShell.Commands.AddMemberCommand
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February 13, 2018, 01:18:55 PM
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same here
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February 13, 2018, 01:39:47 PM
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Since thursday evening I started concurrent test between ahashpool and blazepool with 3x GTX 1080 ti.

Currently blazepool is a head by a small margin:

Ahashpool: 0.00421241
Blazepool: 0.00444645

Zergpool is also up again and will continue testing it coming week.
Is that a daily’s income? Or total income since Thursday?!

Its income since Thursday:

Current profit, blazepool margin is increasing:

Ahashpool: 0.00478314
Blazepool: 0.00553579

Just had payout from ahashpool. Might switch the other 3 gpus to blazepool as wel or start testing again with zergpool.

EDIT: I found that on ahashpool it was stuck on mining x17 algo, so it probably was not mining most profitable for atleast 6 hours. Somehow my hashrate got messed up. Probably reason for the bigger difference in profit between ahashpool and blazepool.

I got 2 rigs with 5 1060 each with a lil difference in hash rates and im gonna try your test also to see which is more profitable.

Benchmarking now and will report tommorow at 12:00 if i dont forget Smiley

Nice! looking forward to your results Smiley

Okay got the results of the full 24 hour testing Ahashpool and Blazepool ( not 24h pools ) .

So my results :

Rig1 with 5 x 1060 6gb Palit Jetstream at Ahashpool - 0.00088961 BTC - Estimated by nemos miner are ~0.00115 = so minus 30% of estimated ( subject of change)
Rig2 with 5 x 1060 6gb KFA  at Blazepool                - 0.00083065 BTC - Estimated by nemos miner are ~0.00105 = so minus 23% of estimated ( subject of change)

Give then fact that my Rig2 cards are doing like 10% less hashrates then Rig1 blazepool is pulling a little more then the ahashpool for the time of the test. ( like 0.00003 ).

Profits are down in everything right now and like it seems ppl need to pick a pools that are steady and dont have alot downtime. This is the only thing that matter as it seems that the differences are too small.
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February 13, 2018, 02:16:58 PM
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Okay got the results of the full 24 hour testing Ahashpool and Blazepool ( not 24h pools ) .

So my results :

Rig1 with 5 x 1060 6gb Palit Jetstream at Ahashpool - 0.00088961 BTC - Estimated by nemos miner are ~0.00115 = so minus 30% of estimated ( subject of change)
Rig2 with 5 x 1060 6gb KFA  at Blazepool                - 0.00083065 BTC - Estimated by nemos miner are ~0.00105 = so minus 23% of estimated ( subject of change)

Give then fact that my Rig2 cards are doing like 10% less hashrates then Rig1 blazepool is pulling a little more then the ahashpool for the time of the test. ( like 0.00003 ).

Profits are down in everything right now and like it seems ppl need to pick a pools that are steady and dont have alot downtime. This is the only thing that matter as it seems that the differences are too small.

I just passed the 24 hour mark comparing NemosMiner on Zpool vs. NiceHash, since NH is the only reasonable metric I could come up with to evaluate the performance of these multi-algo mining pools.

So far NH is beating NM/Zpool by about 11%, but I am going to run the test for at least 2 more days - 72 hours total - because I am just using a single GTX 1080 in each rig.

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February 13, 2018, 02:45:17 PM
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Okay got the results of the full 24 hour testing Ahashpool and Blazepool ( not 24h pools ) .

So my results :

Rig1 with 5 x 1060 6gb Palit Jetstream at Ahashpool - 0.00088961 BTC - Estimated by nemos miner are ~0.00115 = so minus 30% of estimated ( subject of change)
Rig2 with 5 x 1060 6gb KFA  at Blazepool                - 0.00083065 BTC - Estimated by nemos miner are ~0.00105 = so minus 23% of estimated ( subject of change)

Give then fact that my Rig2 cards are doing like 10% less hashrates then Rig1 blazepool is pulling a little more then the ahashpool for the time of the test. ( like 0.00003 ).

Profits are down in everything right now and like it seems ppl need to pick a pools that are steady and dont have alot downtime. This is the only thing that matter as it seems that the differences are too small.

I just passed the 24 hour mark comparing NemosMiner on Zpool vs. NiceHash, since NH is the only reasonable metric I could come up with to evaluate the performance of these multi-algo mining pools.

So far NH is beating NM/Zpool by about 11%, but I am going to run the test for at least 2 more days - 72 hours total - because I am just using a single GTX 1080 in each rig.



Few questions about NH Vs Zpool:

Are you mining the same algos in both pools ? If not what algos are you mining in both ?
Are you using the same miners and settings ?
Are you using Nemos w/nicehash pool ?
Does you estimated 11% difference accounts for Nicehash fees to pay external wallets, as this would be the most similar of using zpool ?

Looking forward to your response, thanks for sharing your findings.

 
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February 13, 2018, 03:20:00 PM
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Few questions about NH Vs Zpool:

Are you mining the same algos in both pools ? If not what algos are you mining in both ?
Are you using the same miners and settings ?
Are you using Nemos w/nicehash pool ?
Does you estimated 11% difference accounts for Nicehash fees to pay external wallets, as this would be the most similar of using zpool ?

Looking forward to your response, thanks for sharing your findings.

Most of your questions are answered in this post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1751272.msg30205761#msg30205761. The comparisons I am doing are rather informal and should be treated as such. Any difference of 5% or less should be considered a tie on account of the rather low hashrate of a single GTX 1080 and I tend to runs these tests for 24, 48 or 72 hours when 7 days or more would likely be necessary. But since you all aren't paying me to do these tests I get to pick the contestants, run time etc...  Grin

I am not using NemosMiner with NiceHash's pool - that doesn't make a lot of sense to me, frankly; miner scripts like NemosMiner along with algo-switching pools like Zpool, MiningPoolHub, HashRefinery, etc., are /alternatives/ to NiceHash, after all.

The running total of BTC does not take into consideration the 2% fee that NH charges to move "theoretical BTC" from your local miner to their wallet (no BTC is actually transferred, hence "theoretical"). I have a Coinbase account so I can transfer from the NH wallet to there for free.

I have no good explanation for why Zpool/NemosMiner are so far behind NH, but prior to this comparison I tried out Zpool in "single algo, convert to a coin besides BTC" with two different coins (same algo - Lyra2v2) and got excellent results. I therefore feel like the pool is trustworthy - it's not intentionally shortchanging me, in other words - so the difference in earnings may very well point to a flaw in the algo-switching.

For example, it takes vertminer - a specialized fork of ccminer strictly for lyra2v2 - a good 20 minutes before it gets fully up to speed on my 6x GTX 1060 rig: it starts out at around 120 MH/s and climbs to 133 MH/s - that right there is 11%.

I've noticed something similar with Neoscrypt, both with HSRminer and ccminer KlausT.

But as for why this is occurring, I have no clue.
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February 13, 2018, 03:33:33 PM
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Few questions about NH Vs Zpool:

Are you mining the same algos in both pools ? If not what algos are you mining in both ?
Are you using the same miners and settings ?
Are you using Nemos w/nicehash pool ?
Does you estimated 11% difference accounts for Nicehash fees to pay external wallets, as this would be the most similar of using zpool ?

Looking forward to your response, thanks for sharing your findings.

Most of your questions are answered in this post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1751272.msg30205761#msg30205761. The comparisons I am doing are rather informal and should be treated as such. Any difference of 5% or less should be considered a tie on account of the rather low hashrate of a single GTX 1080 and I tend to runs these tests for 24, 48 or 72 hours when 7 days or more would likely be necessary. But since you all aren't paying me to do these tests I get to pick the contestants, run time etc...  Grin

I am not using NemosMiner with NiceHash's pool - that doesn't make a lot of sense to me, frankly; miner scripts like NemosMiner along with algo-switching pools like Zpool, MiningPoolHub, HashRefinery, etc., are /alternatives/ to NiceHash, after all.

The running total of BTC does not take into consideration the 2% fee that NH charges to move "theoretical BTC" from your local miner to their wallet (no BTC is actually transferred, hence "theoretical"). I have a Coinbase account so I can transfer from the NH wallet to there for free.

I have no good explanation for why Zpool/NemosMiner are so far behind NH, but prior to this comparison I tried out Zpool in "single algo, convert to a coin besides BTC" with two different coins (same algo - Lyra2v2) and got excellent results. I therefore feel like the pool is trustworthy - it's not intentionally shortchanging me, in other words - so the difference in earnings may very well point to a flaw in the algo-switching.

For example, it takes vertminer - a specialized fork of ccminer strictly for lyra2v2 - a good 20 minutes before it gets fully up to speed on my 6x GTX 1060 rig: it starts out at around 120 MH/s and climbs to 133 MH/s - that right there is 11%.

I've noticed something similar with Neoscrypt, both with HSRminer and ccminer KlausT.

But as for why this is occurring, I have no clue.

Thank you for taking the time to respond.

For lyra2v2 in nemosminer you can use Excavator for me its the fastest and most stable across all my rigs ( 1050ti, 1060, 1070ti, 1080ti)

I also uploaded my copy here, download the zip and extract to your miner folder

NVIDIAExcavator-1.zip
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February 14, 2018, 12:42:57 AM
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Testing ahashpool vs blazepool, current profit .bats (not 24hr actual) with a 5% switch and 30s interval, each with a 6 x 1070 rig, they are overclocked the same, 75%/100/500, but have slightly different hash rates due to different models in each, but fairly close. I had to disable keccak on blazepool bc it kept showing the profit as orders of magnitude off.

Currently about a day into the test, the btc/24hr is approximately the following:
blazepool - 0.0018384
ahashpool - 0.0015329

So currently blazepool is winning by about 20% 1 day in. I'll try to keep going for at least a few days. Hopefully the rigs stay online the same, I've had occasional trouble with them hanging up every once in a while, can't figure out why, which would skew the results.

Approximately 48 hours into the test, the btc/24hr is approximately the following:
blazepool - 0.002033
ahashpool - 0.001481

My ahash rig did appear to go for part of the night while I slept, which I tried to account for in the above calculations. There's a chance it has gone down other times as well that I haven't seen (I have it restart the whole rig every 12 hours), but I believe this is fairly accurate. Blazepool appears to be pulling ahead, now approximately 37% more profitable. Even if I add in a bunch more hours of downtime into the calcs, blazepool is still ahead; they may have gotten lucky with blocks recently though. I'll keep it going for a while more, hopefully my rigs cooperate and don't go down anymore.

Update at 96 hours into the test, the btc/24hr is approximately as follows:
blazepool - 0.001757
ahashpool - 0.001452

Blazepool still ahead by approximately 20%, but is definitely trending downwards, I think they had a lucky streak in the first day or two of the test. I will try to keep going for another couple of days and see if it evens out more or if one starts pulling away further. Again, these results may be inaccurate due to unknown rig downtime; I've tried to account for it whenever I've been aware of it happening.
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February 14, 2018, 09:16:45 AM
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Testing ahashpool vs blazepool, current profit .bats (not 24hr actual) with a 5% switch and 30s interval, each with a 6 x 1070 rig, they are overclocked the same, 75%/100/500, but have slightly different hash rates due to different models in each, but fairly close. I had to disable keccak on blazepool bc it kept showing the profit as orders of magnitude off.

Currently about a day into the test, the btc/24hr is approximately the following:
blazepool - 0.0018384
ahashpool - 0.0015329

So currently blazepool is winning by about 20% 1 day in. I'll try to keep going for at least a few days. Hopefully the rigs stay online the same, I've had occasional trouble with them hanging up every once in a while, can't figure out why, which would skew the results.

Approximately 48 hours into the test, the btc/24hr is approximately the following:
blazepool - 0.002033
ahashpool - 0.001481

My ahash rig did appear to go for part of the night while I slept, which I tried to account for in the above calculations. There's a chance it has gone down other times as well that I haven't seen (I have it restart the whole rig every 12 hours), but I believe this is fairly accurate. Blazepool appears to be pulling ahead, now approximately 37% more profitable. Even if I add in a bunch more hours of downtime into the calcs, blazepool is still ahead; they may have gotten lucky with blocks recently though. I'll keep it going for a while more, hopefully my rigs cooperate and don't go down anymore.

Update at 96 hours into the test, the btc/24hr is approximately as follows:
blazepool - 0.001757
ahashpool - 0.001452

Blazepool still ahead by approximately 20%, but is definitely trending downwards, I think they had a lucky streak in the first day or two of the test. I will try to keep going for another couple of days and see if it evens out more or if one starts pulling away further. Again, these results may be inaccurate due to unknown rig downtime; I've tried to account for it whenever I've been aware of it happening.

Your overclocking settings may cause your rigs to go down. I'm also not sure if overclocking your memory that much actually helps because timings of memory change as well. Having a Rig with 6 x GTX 1070 running at 75% with 85+ clock speed (100 would crash miner) and 200+ mem.
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February 14, 2018, 01:37:25 PM
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Having issue with hsrminer when mining neoscrypt, when it wants to save speed it gives error:

Cannot convert value "10320000000000,00" to type "System.Int32". Error: "De waarde is te groot of te klein voor een Int
32."
At C:\Nemos\Wrapper.ps1:57 char:4
+             $HashRate = [int]$HashRate
+             ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    + CategoryInfo          : InvalidArgument: (Smiley [], RuntimeException
    + FullyQualifiedErrorId : InvalidCastIConvertible

Any idea how to solve this?
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February 14, 2018, 01:39:14 PM
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I am having an intermittent issue that I've never had before -- on the latest nemo / latest miner files occasionally "lyra2z" will hang up with a ccminer error. If I just go click "okay" NEMO will resume as normal. But that system will simply idle until I arrive and click OKAY.

Any fix for that ?

For security, your account has been locked. Email acctcomp15@theymos.e4ward.com
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February 14, 2018, 02:09:44 PM
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AHashPoolPlus vs BlazePool Test using 72 GPU FARM (36 GPUs per Pool)

Six Rigs (Miner1-6)  : 6 x 1070ti (85%, +100 Core, +500 Mem)
Six Rigs (Miner7-12): 6 x 1070ti (85%, +100 Core, +500 Mem)

Time Period 2/12 7:30am to 2/14 7:30am
Allowed Pools to Settle after stopping miners
Algorithm: phi,skein,x17,Nist5,neoscrypt,blake2s
ActiveMinerGainPct 5
Interval 60


AHashPoolPlus generated : 0.021524928 ($198.78 USD)
BlazePool generated        : 0.016864128 ($155.74 USD)

Sorry Blazepool you lost this round.  

FARM #1 : 60 GPUs spread across 6 rigs (1080ti/1080/1070ti/1070)
FARM #2 : 72 GPUs spread across 12 rigs (1070ti x 6)
FARM #3 : 16 GPUs spread across 4 rigs (1080ti x 4)
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February 14, 2018, 02:11:54 PM
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I am having an intermittent issue that I've never had before -- on the latest nemo / latest miner files occasionally "lyra2z" will hang up with a ccminer error. If I just go click "okay" NEMO will resume as normal. But that system will simply idle until I arrive and click OKAY.

Any fix for that ?

Using the Group Policy Editor
Start gpedit.msc.

Navigate to Computer Configuration > Administrative Templates > Windows Components > Windows Error Reporting.
Display Error Notifications : DISABLE
Disable Logging : ENABLE
Disable Windows Error Reports : ENABLE

FARM #1 : 60 GPUs spread across 6 rigs (1080ti/1080/1070ti/1070)
FARM #2 : 72 GPUs spread across 12 rigs (1070ti x 6)
FARM #3 : 16 GPUs spread across 4 rigs (1080ti x 4)
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