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Mr zefir, can I copy your group buy mechanics for a different group buy, for another country? I am seeking permission, so you don't think I'm just copying. I am already in Asia, so I want to arrange a group buy for people who are based either in my country or nearby. We don't have yet an electrical engineer, but I'm sure someone will find one locally. We will avoid having to send our chips to Germany, otherwise we can just join your batch of group buys, or the other guy's (ragingazn628). And of course, Burnin will open source his design so that can be copied.
Hello Dabs, what mechanics are you referring to you would go to copy? There is nothing innovative here, beside using the blockchain for accounting, which is inherently supported by bitcoin. Since money is at stake, I am doing everything manually (which due to the numerous incorrect claims is hard to automate). So feel free to take what you find useful and make it better. One thing that would have saved me lots of time is: should have asked to sign orders upfront and so ensure noone is sending from MtGox etc. Good Luck zefir
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April 24, 2013, 08:04:12 PM |
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April 24, 2013, 09:19:11 PM |
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I am afraid I cannot figure out how to "sign" my btc sending. Would it be okay if I listed the transaction ID?
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April 24, 2013, 09:40:11 PM |
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Processing after Order Window Closing We have 5 more days left until the order window closes. Since batch 5 just started and the order volume decreased significantly, I don't want those who order for whatever the last batch will be to be left in limbo. Therefore I decided to offer you a guarantee to get the chips you ordered, independent of whether enough coins have been collected.
I will handle this as follows: after the closing of the order window, those orders pending in the last batch will have the option to a) get the coins fully refunded, or b) demand the ordered chips to be delivered. In the later case and based on the volume of pending orders, I will either 1) add my own funds to order a final batch, or 2) take those chips from what I bought for my own demand.
In essence, everyone who orders is granted a guarantee to get the chips. The only factor that can void this guarantee is if Avalon stops selling chips.
I hoped the timeframe is for the auction of the first prebought batch only. Why stopping it as long as it works? I mean when you think about the reward for your work... At least i would like to see it running until first may is gone because i get some BTC then. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) But in your shoes i would let it run as long as enough people willing to buy are there.
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zefir (OP)
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April 24, 2013, 10:33:01 PM |
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I am afraid I cannot figure out how to "sign" my btc sending. Would it be okay if I listed the transaction ID?
You don't need to sign for the order, just post it here or in PM when you see your payment shows up in the blockchain. But you need to be sure that you can sign with the address you paid from later, since that's your proof of ownership. For a step-by-step instruction signing with Bitcoin-qt, check burnin's related post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=179769.msg1922342#msg1922342
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April 24, 2013, 10:45:16 PM |
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I hoped the timeframe is for the auction of the first prebought batch only. Why stopping it as long as it works? I mean when you think about the reward for your work... At least i would like to see it running until first may is gone because i get some BTC then. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) But in your shoes i would let it run as long as enough people willing to buy are there. Ha, you think it is easy money, do you? I thought the same, but learned how it is not. Besides, it was not meant as a business, but as support for the DIY folks around, and those that planned to play with ASIC chips more or less already ordered.
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April 24, 2013, 11:54:52 PM |
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I hoped the timeframe is for the auction of the first prebought batch only. Why stopping it as long as it works? I mean when you think about the reward for your work... At least i would like to see it running until first may is gone because i get some BTC then. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) But in your shoes i would let it run as long as enough people willing to buy are there. I'm sure some entrepreneurs are observing what is going on here and planning their own version of it. Alternatively, if you don't have the funds yet, why not start your own group buy when you do?
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April 25, 2013, 01:51:03 AM |
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PM sent. Thanks.
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April 25, 2013, 02:28:49 AM |
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The 4th batch's order status is on-hold. Does it mean we have to wait longer?
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April 25, 2013, 02:41:55 AM |
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Mr zefir, can I copy your group buy mechanics for a different group buy, for another country? I am seeking permission, so you don't think I'm just copying. I am already in Asia, so I want to arrange a group buy for people who are based either in my country or nearby. We don't have yet an electrical engineer, but I'm sure someone will find one locally. We will avoid having to send our chips to Germany, otherwise we can just join your batch of group buys, or the other guy's (ragingazn628). And of course, Burnin will open source his design so that can be copied.
Hello Dabs, what mechanics are you referring to you would go to copy? There is nothing innovative here, beside using the blockchain for accounting, which is inherently supported by bitcoin. Since money is at stake, I am doing everything manually (which due to the numerous incorrect claims is hard to automate). So feel free to take what you find useful and make it better. One thing that would have saved me lots of time is: should have asked to sign orders upfront and so ensure noone is sending from MtGox etc. Good Luck zefir Thank you. I was or am going to copy portions of your first post, use the blockchain for accounting, and do everything manually as well. Adding a few items relevant to my particular group buy.
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April 25, 2013, 04:32:30 AM |
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April 25, 2013, 05:05:24 AM |
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Will you be replying to orders to confirm them?
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April 25, 2013, 05:16:44 AM |
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Will you be replying to orders to confirm them?
he doesn't need to confirm them, its in the blockchain. he's made this point at least 3 times.
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April 25, 2013, 05:39:16 AM |
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I'm in... late as usual! PM sent with details
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April 25, 2013, 07:46:34 AM |
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Batch 5 confirmed orders: ID Chips BTC Address Note 01 20 1.72 1SteveoQJyixxqN3HZSJDhxbtkRn4gUdF 02 30 2.58 16HXNGWtaoqoJ5Q1ce7BFyNv4N4RUSFGcm 03 20 0.86 1EGvMF6p3kPXMPDCtZogq8mB8NutD4KmSi 04 150 12.9 19FijdTUxXE4shP3uBHHGhDW32GwBC5Lyw 05 20 1.72 17z3TdiroQCaepLG79EdTzjUdV7vxyVuH7 06 40 3.44 19bKGxRDdQzxZCiomBQTCJdTuY9hY8MaAG 07 10 0.86 148nKdqjjJPGQXAQrg5ZBtMRWNaBe7vxeS +#17 08 120 10.32 12HMTWSXTX9aQCBU6kRAZU5MwgNmGr8HjS 09 70 6.02 1DvB9bzzjzrwDEDymzF1zB1VfxAEiESevr 10 10 0.86 16dAyPsi5qe81UU5DqvtFyhYS5SkJ23nPM 11 120 10.32 1EusLtExL9UKYYFRBCsxsYmxXpsoCRJBxD 12 100 8.6 1NKpqMJwvyvJUNGL4cDygyHuaQtyCmT1p8 13 50 4.3 16wD5mRQBfUHUpmZyEeFQv3sgySzZqiUX4 14 20 1.76 1VQtwHQHNyLiZ6ttRVBxcuPt8jt1U1yWG 15 10 0.86 1BRjnk1bjf4p4uXWhzPCB4QNmjUpHLFXN 16 30 2.58 1QqB3kJ8Z8CBBJqwXuY5W8uhV9UUqWrCB 17 0 0.01 148nKdqjjJPGQXAQrg5ZBtMRWNaBe7vxeS #07+ 18 10 0.86 1AmrUydgQ4U5q5N1JmdjARwbQrAoB7Rj1Z 19 30 2.58 1NMrtqsMgDBp1zGSGKC6bC26tQsj1Emt85 20 10 0.86 1Lcq3xfghgnWWu62QUx1mtNkM8mSeAGGax 21 200 17.2 1LwhePwR38ky7yqN89fUiNDUfq51KBPuxe 22 30 2.58 1JgkeFNaJqDjjgKLguUidZP9LXGfm1vzp1 23 30 2.58 1JphTgzZXWYqxh8JQtB2vannMSWa3yJr2A 24 70 6.02 16SSPCBRxzaiXjA6XoCpq8tBvJdhoSSPmA 25 60 5.16 1NKsUXEKqtYHXJe1WmyWGPzcW1K9YoBeFM 26 40 3.44 MISMATCH 27 200 17.2 1CgvQrFgtcyefLg1JFGrxibLu7VwqVaTCs 28 30 2.58 1NwuR7yTj5TxXXYt7ni1tZAzp7ctrfjUQo 29 100 8.6 1BqeeARJdRkyrQJ2hhhYLzcihaaxDa1F1v 30 40 3.44 1PgeU6dP2ocMsw4WoZTTjGCXVBanypmTjR ------------------------------------------------------------ Sum: 1670 Reserved: 1500 ============================================================ Remaining: 6830
6830 chips left.
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tarmi; 20; 1.72; 1NrTTDSEQHKiSxmQqe7ch8ovMenBjUBkBZ
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April 25, 2013, 07:52:43 AM |
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The 4th batch's order status is on-hold. Does it mean we have to wait longer?
Updated meanwhile to 'Processing', see OP.
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April 25, 2013, 10:50:49 AM |
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April 25, 2013, 02:10:11 PM |
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do I read this correct that on 2nd batch still has ~2500 chips left? (today)
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April 25, 2013, 02:38:47 PM |
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do I read this correct that on 2nd batch still has ~2500 chips left? (today) These are reserved chips for the DIY-Companies.
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