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June 28, 2014, 11:53:20 PM

No ATH till January. Come again folks.
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June 28, 2014, 11:59:23 PM

Frankly, it pisses me off.  Theymos got how many BTC in donations, and he can't fix such a simple nigh universal complaint?


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Well, there's new custom forum software coming eventually, and I think theymos just wants to do his best to not have this forum defaced again until then by introducing some security vulnerability. He is a bit on the ultraconservative/cautious side, similar to Bitcoin devs.
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June 29, 2014, 12:00:41 AM


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June 29, 2014, 12:00:55 AM

i'd like to buy zero btc, please
zero, zero please
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June 29, 2014, 12:01:29 AM

No ATH till January. Come again folks.

You sound like Blitz last summer with his "no more triple digits in 2013".

Expecting another 2012?
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June 29, 2014, 12:05:05 AM

Do we know when the first ETF will launch? I think that could be the thing to propel us to alltime highs.
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June 29, 2014, 12:08:14 AM

Do we know when the first ETF will launch? I think that could be the thing to propel us to alltime highs.

Is this a serious question?
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June 29, 2014, 12:13:20 AM

Do we know when the first ETF will launch? I think that could be the thing to propel us to alltime highs.

Is this a serious question?
Yes. I think there is no date yet (but maybe some broader estimate?), but it may have eluded me, so I ask just in case.
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June 29, 2014, 12:24:05 AM

i'd like to buy zero btc, please http://imgur.com/vZTtMSw
Bitstamp's trade log is problematic. BitcoinWisdom's owner says that Bitstamp's chart data API does not provide the trade type ("buy" vs "sell") so he has to guess it somehow; and the entries also have some timestamp/order problems. Because of these problems, perhaps, some past entries of the log change quite a bit when the chart is hard-reloaded. (More details here.)

The problem seems limited to Bitstamp.  I don't understand yet how those shortcomings of their API could cause the BTC amounts to vary (in that link, for example, one trade for 0.036 BTC became 0.34 BTC). Anyway, they should fix those bugs, otherwise clients who notice those retroactive changes may get the wrong (or right?) ideas.
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June 29, 2014, 12:25:36 AM

I'm selling everything now and will buy back Monday night. I think that's the only option at this point.
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June 29, 2014, 12:33:40 AM

i'd like to buy zero btc, please http://imgur.com/vZTtMSw

Lotz of play outside of Bitcoin.  Check this out http://www.cbsnews.com/news/chinas-real-estate-bubble-11-08-2013/

As someone with years of experience shorting the American market.  I can tell you if a Chinese speaking partner offered to take me on a trip there,  I am sure this is a strike out.  My visa is processing
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June 29, 2014, 12:34:40 AM

Do we know when the first ETF will launch? I think that could be the thing to propel us to alltime highs.

Is this a serious question?
Yes. I think there is no date yet (but maybe some broader estimate?), but it may have eluded me, so I ask just in case.

The ETF is already pending on bloomberg terminal.
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June 29, 2014, 12:35:57 AM

Frankly, it pisses me off.  Theymos got how many BTC in donations, and he can't fix such a simple nigh universal complaint?


+1

This complaint and many, many others.


Well, there's new custom forum software coming eventually, and I think theymos just wants to do his best to not have this forum defaced again until then by introducing some security vulnerability. He is a bit on the ultraconservative/cautious side, similar to Bitcoin devs.



If he is so conservative, then why does he have a troll as a mod? Tongue
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June 29, 2014, 12:40:48 AM

I'm selling everything now and will buy back Monday night. I think that's the only option at this point.

OK... Good luck.   Cry
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June 29, 2014, 12:53:32 AM

I'm selling everything now and will buy back Monday night. I think that's the only option at this point.

OK... Good luck.   Cry
pretty sure hes not serious.
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June 29, 2014, 01:00:13 AM

Do we know when the first ETF will launch? I think that could be the thing to propel us to alltime highs.

Is this a serious question?
Yes. I think there is no date yet (but maybe some broader estimate?), but it may have eluded me, so I ask just in case.

Ok. I thought you would have been up on this but here is the best answer at the moment. The NY regulations are supposed to come out any time now - so 1 day to 2/3 months most likely. This will provide a framework, although perhaps not directly for the ETF, for NY exchanges re: bitcoin.  This effects Barry Silbert, as he is starting a new fund that will be ETF-like, and will be able to accept non-accredited investors as well as institutional ones. Silbert is waiting for this NY guidance.

Meanwhile the SEC has to approve the Winklebrothers ETF. This is anywhere from 1 day to 12 months away, based on the scant updates/interviews/comments that the brothers/their legal team have made.

Personally I think the SEC is probably waiting on NY as well, not as a rule, but as a cautionary measure.

My prediction is we would see the ETF before the end of 2014, maybe as early as early 4th quarter, especially once similar entities are up and running (ie Silbert's venture).
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