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420 is a great price to support an 80 years old women to pay her fine for a few uprooted strings of hemp. She has to pay 1100$ fine, which is near the amount of pension she is receiving for the whole year. 3 min video about the case: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqmGkti9uUQ Bojia Bikova campaigns: BTC: Bithope - https://bithope.org/campaign/help-the-old-mother-bojia-campaign/ XMR: promena.org (OpenAlias Monero address)
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are we rich yet??  Huh

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December 09, 2015, 09:31:57 AM

Are we at $32k yet?
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December 09, 2015, 09:48:24 AM

Are we at $32k yet?

(hmmm....looks at btc amount owned....) at 83.59 btc er no a bit more then that Smiley *ducks hey don't throw stuff in the thread here you could take out an I ) Smiley

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December 09, 2015, 10:14:45 AM

Best quote from local media on the Wright news:

"Olaf du må vakne, hakkarane kjem!"
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December 09, 2015, 10:22:50 AM

Best quote from local media on the Wright news:

"Olaf du må vakne, hakkarane kjem!"


this wright guy is dangerous, this is investigative journalism gold. 


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December 09, 2015, 10:25:52 AM
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Feeling like it's gonna hit $600 long before the halving comes now.  Also starting to feel like a banking crash worse than 2008 might happen before we even get to the halving in eight or so months.  The new world order = a simultaneous Comex run and some 10-20x+ Bitcoin bubble turning the world financial system upside down occuring at the same time.

If every single Bitcoin was already mined, and every millionaire on earth invested only 1% of their money in Bitcoin, price would be $8000 per coin, but that assumes market cap is fully backed with liquidity, so the real price would be way higher.  This does not include governments, banks, hedge funds, people with less than a $1 million investing, etc, just millionaires investing only 1% :

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1235466.0

The extremely low ball price for next 2008 crash will probably be something monsterous like $10,000+ a coin because it can easily go to $3000+ in the next year or two without even having another 2008 crash:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1243623.0

When every single day you wake up having the odds of another 2008 crash being here any second, you have to be literally stupid to not own any Bitcoin or to go full fiat.
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December 09, 2015, 10:31:07 AM

This whole "who is Satoshi Nakamoto" thing is silly. It certainly is not this hoaxer Craig Steven Wright from Australia.

Bitcoin was clearly invented by Neal King, Vladimir Oks­man, and Charles Bry.
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December 09, 2015, 10:48:41 AM
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Best quote from local media on the Wright news:

"Olaf du må vakne, hakkarane kjem!"


this wright guy is dangerous, this is investigative journalism gold.  


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so how much of a coincidence is it that ATO raids Wright's home the same day the gizmodo and wired articles are released (simultaneously note) ... zero.

What this is beginning to look like is a parallel construction sting operation, with the military "counter-terrorism enabled" spooks leaking these emails to the journalists and then ATO waits until it becomes "public domain" and bang they can go and violate Wright's property at will without having to find probable cause.
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December 09, 2015, 10:58:21 AM
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I'm surprised. It looks like this time, even some of the veterans in here tend to believe the Satoshi revelation story, that Wright = Satoshi.

Granted, the Wired/gizmodo article and research behind is somewhat better than that awful Newsweek "Look! Same last name!" story, but aside from that: whatever hard evidence Wired has (or has revealed so far) is rather flimsy as well. As far as I can tell, the major documents containing proof of identity either cannot be verified (cryptographically, say), or haven't been verified (by some indirect method).

All in all, I see very little strong evidence, and mainly just a man whose reaction to the Wired story is consistent with someone who could be Satoshi. But in that case, motivation matters, and it's rather funny how it only seems to cross a few peoples' minds that somebody might actually want to be believed to be Satoshi. The crypto nerds mainly seem to focus on the "He just wants his privacy!" angle, so somebody possibly trying to take credit for Satoshi's work doesn't seem to fit in.

Last observation: Wright's style doesn't pass the sniff test. From the soundbites and writing samples I've seen, there's a big difference between Wright's and Satoshi's style -- the latter's phrasing and argument development being rather modest sounding, never boasting -- which means I personally want to see a lot more hard evidence -- i.e. documents constituting proof of identity between the two, that also have been shown to be authentic and non-tampered with -- before seriously considering that Satoshi has been identified.
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December 09, 2015, 11:06:31 AM

a collapse in the world economy and a banking implosion wouldn't do bitcoin any good.

getting in a car accident doesn't suddenly mean you teleport into a "safer on a per mile basis, should have thought of this before i chose to drive 300 miles" airplane.

you lie there in mangled metal thinking "if i ever recover from this, i probably shouldn't do this again"

if you do recover, you change your mind and go back to driving anyway.

bitcoin adoption needs to carry on as it is, slowly chomping away at the ankles, and banks need to slowly accept their diminishing role.

edit: you can trust me, i'm bitcoin's official CEO
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Granted, the Wired/gizmodo article and research behind is somewhat better than that awful Newsweek "Look! Same last name!" story, but aside from that: whatever hard evidence Wired has (or has revealed so far) is rather flimsy as well.

I think Newsweek got sued for subjecting the wrong Satoshi to unwanted publicity. The Wired/gizmodo article proof was partly based on documents they claimed were stolen by one of Wright's employees. Surely they can also be sued for revealing the contents of stolen sensitive private emails, and Wright's tax documents.
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