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December 09, 2015, 03:53:35 PM

The Craig Wright thing doesn't add up. There's supposed to be a tx of 1.1m BTC. Where is it on the blockchain and why are Satoshi's coins still where they always were?

https://bitscan.com/articles/something-about-the-new-satoshi-isnt-wright

I'm trying to find another explanation and the only ones I can come up with are
1) Someone else has 1m BTC
2) The doc is fake

possible offline transaction. just hand over the key.
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December 09, 2015, 03:54:17 PM

The Craig Wright thing doesn't add up. There's supposed to be a tx of 1.1m BTC. Where is it on the blockchain and why are Satoshi's coins still where they always were?

https://bitscan.com/articles/something-about-the-new-satoshi-isnt-wright

I'm trying to find another explanation and the only ones I can come up with are
1) Someone else has 1m BTC
2) The doc is fake

possible offline transaction. just hand over the key.

In which case, they were never 'transferred' and no control has been given up. Or, if they were moved afterwards, slowly, then who owns the 1m unmoved coins?!
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December 09, 2015, 03:56:25 PM

Thank you, it just gets complicated for me if i was to switch wallets.  I wasn't even able to just move blocks to my laptop from pc as it messed up so i'll wait.  So i could send the bitcoins and then it just wont update till whenever but the guy on the other side would get them immediately?

Thanks Smiley

That would work as long as there has been no spending on the addresses in question in the meantime.
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December 09, 2015, 03:56:46 PM

Signed keys or a fake.
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December 09, 2015, 03:57:43 PM

I placed my order around 320.
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December 09, 2015, 03:58:52 PM

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My impression is that Wright (may he or may he not be SN) wanted to be found.
clap clap good read butters

Snark aside, that line is, in my opinion, our take-home message so far.

By itself, it doesn't exclude the possibility that Wright is Satoshi, but it does add additional requirements on what counts as proof -- and what we've seen so far doesn't constitute that, imo.

Does he still have any github privileges? Maybe one of those fancy crypto-sig thingys?

If he takes the limelight and admits to being satoshi I'll want some confirmation in that direction.

If not, he either wants to be ignored or deserves to be ignored.

There's an alert function built into the Bitcoin core wallet for telling people about vital updates to the wallet. Alerts can only be made by signing them by a specific ECDSA key. Only a few people hold that key, and they include Satoshi Nakamoto, Gavin Andresen and theymos.

If Satoshi signed a message with that key, and both Gavin Andresen and theymos confirmed it wasn't them it would give confirmation  of who he is.


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Alerts are broadcast using the same TCP relay system as block and tx messages. They are not encoded in a special transaction. Unlike block and tx relaying, alerts are sent at the start of every new connection for as long as the alert is in effect. This ensures that everyone receives the alert.

Alerts contain this information:

How long to relay the alert.
How long to consider the alert valid.
An alert ID number.
A list of alerts that should be canceled upon receipt of this alert.
Exactly which versions of Bitcoin are affected by the alert. Unaffected versions still relay the alert for the benefit of older versions.
Alert priority.
The alert text.
Only alerts that are signed by a specific ECDSA public key are considered valid. The known private key holders are Satoshi Nakamoto, Gavin Andresen and theymos. There are other people able to issue alerts in the event of the incapacitation of the aforementioned.
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December 09, 2015, 04:00:41 PM

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December 09, 2015, 04:19:26 PM

The Craig Wright thing doesn't add up. There's supposed to be a tx of 1.1m BTC. Where is it on the blockchain and why are Satoshi's coins still where they always were?

https://bitscan.com/articles/something-about-the-new-satoshi-isnt-wright

I'm trying to find another explanation and the only ones I can come up with are
1) Someone else has 1m BTC
2) The doc is fake

Yeah, this reminds me of the fake Mormon will of Howard Hughes.  He knows he can't access the coins, but if he gets anyone to believe he can, he could pledge them for collateral to a loan.  This is really strange because Bitcoin is probably the easiest asset to prove you truly control. Just sign something with your private key. Frauds are so easily sniffed out with just the minimum amount of due diligence. You almost have to WANT to be fooled in order to get defrauded.
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December 09, 2015, 04:23:50 PM

I placed my order around 320.
lol n00b c;
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December 09, 2015, 04:31:03 PM

The Craig Wright thing doesn't add up. There's supposed to be a tx of 1.1m BTC. Where is it on the blockchain and why are Satoshi's coins still where they always were?

https://bitscan.com/articles/something-about-the-new-satoshi-isnt-wright

I'm trying to find another explanation and the only ones I can come up with are
1) Someone else has 1m BTC
2) The doc is fake

It seems sort of odd that Satoshi would have penned a defense of PayPal.

https://theconversation.com/are-anonymous-and-lulzsec-about-to-hack-paypal-for-wikileaks-2582

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December 09, 2015, 04:38:40 PM

Craig wants to start a bitcoin bank.  The opposite of what satoshi created bitcoin for.  This is why satoshi will never come out.  The police raided this guys house hours after it was said he might be SN.
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December 09, 2015, 04:39:27 PM

Good morning Bitcoinland.

Still over $400. Let's see if it holds until the next leg up.

Up $30 and down $10 ain't a bad day.
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December 09, 2015, 04:41:37 PM

Good morning Bitcoinland.

Still over $400. Let's see if it holds until the next leg up.

Up $30 and down $10 ain't a bad day.

Day's just begun, Jimbo.
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December 09, 2015, 04:44:03 PM
Last edit: December 09, 2015, 04:59:59 PM by Fatman3001

Good morning Bitcoinland.

Still over $400. Let's see if it holds until the next leg up.

Up $30 and down $10 ain't a bad day.

Day's just begun, Jimbo.

Depends on where you live

Edit: Ouch! I guess it doesn't.

Edit 2: @chesthing sry for bad joke. The premise is that you're posting on a forum and not PM. I know. It's shit.
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December 09, 2015, 04:47:40 PM

Good morning Bitcoinland.

Still over $400. Let's see if it holds until the next leg up.

Up $30 and down $10 ain't a bad day.

Day's just begun, Jimbo.

Depends on where you live

Pretty sure it's morning in Toronto. While Chinaman sleeps the white devil dumps.
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December 09, 2015, 04:52:47 PM

Let's see if 400 is our new floor
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December 09, 2015, 04:54:13 PM

Good morning Bitcoinland.

Still over $400. Let's see if it holds until the next leg up.

Up $30 and down $10 ain't a bad day.

Day's just begun, Jimbo.

Depends on where you live

Edit: Ouch! I guess it doesn't.


Fatman, without knowing precisely what the danger is, would you say it's time for our viewers to crack each other's heads open and feast on the goo inside?
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December 09, 2015, 04:56:34 PM

I know there are plenty of bitcoin rally songs, but are there any good dump songs? if not, somebody with musical talent should get on it because we need one.
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December 09, 2015, 04:56:51 PM

The Craig Wright thing doesn't add up. There's supposed to be a tx of 1.1m BTC. Where is it on the blockchain and why are Satoshi's coins still where they always were?

https://bitscan.com/articles/something-about-the-new-satoshi-isnt-wright

I'm trying to find another explanation and the only ones I can come up with are
1) Someone else has 1m BTC
2) The doc is fake

Yeah, this reminds me of the fake Mormon will of Howard Hughes.  He knows he can't access the coins, but if he gets anyone to believe he can, he could pledge them for collateral to a loan.  This is really strange because Bitcoin is probably the easiest asset to prove you truly control. Just sign something with your private key. Frauds are so easily sniffed out with just the minimum amount of due diligence. You almost have to WANT to be fooled in order to get defrauded.


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December 09, 2015, 04:57:57 PM

Good morning Bitcoinland.

Still over $400. Let's see if it holds until the next leg up.

Up $30 and down $10 ain't a bad day.

Day's just begun, Jimbo.

Depends on where you live

Edit: Ouch! I guess it doesn't.


Fatman, without knowing precisely what the danger is, would you say it's time for our viewers to crack each other's heads open and feast on the goo inside?

Yes I would, Brockman.
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