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[Cconvert2G36]

The more you dig, the more you're left with the impression that Wright went to fairly extensive lengths to out himself as satoshi.

I considered for a brief moment that Wright concocted the story to somehow get control of the late Dave Kleiman's bitcoin, but after looking a bit into Kleiman... it appears that is also not the case.

Fun story though ('cept for Dave's role). Sadly, it looks like the "Tulip Trust locked up until 2020" was just a dream.  

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[becoin]

and banks need to slowly accept their diminishing role.

It won't happen. How will you accept something that is slowly killing you?

[conspirosphere.tk]

and banks need to slowly accept their diminishing role.

It won't happen. How will you accept something that is slowly killing you?

How? You start selling derivatives and paper certificates of it.

[ChartBuddy]

Coin



Explanation

[becoin]

and banks need to slowly accept their diminishing role.

It won't happen. How will you accept something that is slowly killing you?

How? You start selling derivatives and paper certificates of it.

No, this is how you profit from someone else being killed.

[lottery248]

Coin



Explanation

that is escalated quickly.
whelp i would guess $500 soon.
bitcoin exchange in china is already $431!!!1!one!

[XCASH]

Coin



Explanation

that is escalated quickly.
whelp i would guess $500 soon.
bitcoin exchange in china is already $431!!!1!one!

What's up with Coin, it's lower than BearStamp which has been consistently lower than all the other exchanges until today? BearStamp was the biggest block to getting past $400. The price on it kept hitting $399.99 then falling back down.

Maybe it's because Coin's market is small that it's price is lower.

[dloghwak]

Finally above 400USD again with a lot of buying support left.
Oh and we found satoshi again, what interesting times.

[macsga]

I'm surprised. It looks like this time, even some of the veterans in here tend to believe the Satoshi revelation story, that Wright = Satoshi.

Granted, the Wired/gizmodo article and research behind is somewhat better than that awful Newsweek "Look! Same last name!" story, but aside from that: whatever hard evidence Wired has (or has revealed so far) is rather flimsy as well. As far as I can tell, the major documents containing proof of identity either cannot be verified (cryptographically, say), or haven't been verified (by some indirect method).

All in all, I see very little strong evidence, and mainly just a man whose reaction to the Wired story is consistent with someone who could be Satoshi. But in that case, motivation matters, and it's rather funny how it only seems to cross a few peoples' minds that somebody might actually want to be believed to be Satoshi. The crypto nerds mainly seem to focus on the "He just wants his privacy!" angle, so somebody possibly trying to take credit for Satoshi's work doesn't seem to fit in.

Last observation: Wright's style doesn't pass the sniff test. From the soundbites and writing samples I've seen, there's a big difference between Wright's and Satoshi's style -- the latter's phrasing and argument development being rather modest sounding, never boasting -- which means I personally want to see a lot more hard evidence -- i.e. documents constituting proof of identity between the two, that also have been shown to be authentic and non-tampered with -- before seriously considering that Satoshi has been identified.

I concur; having this conversation with a friend today I rationalized my objections to this story with pretty much the same words. Believe me we will witness several similar "revelations" until BTC becomes what's destined to. Finally, I want to put a more "simple" thought in this.

Imagine you're Satoshi; you've invented an extraordinary digital currency that will revolutionize the whole planet. You've included -but not limited to- economics, forensics, cryptography, networking, mathematics, chaotic modelling, social engineering in order to make it happen, and insure it's gonna fulfill its destiny.

Undeniably, -if you're a single entity- and not a bunch of scientists, you're quite an extraordinary mind. What are the odds you didn't close all the links that lead to you? Didn't you foresee something like this coming?

http://gizmodo.com/reports-police-raid-home-of-possible-bitcoin-creator-c-1747025289

I rest my case.

[ImI]

I'm surprised. It looks like this time, even some of the veterans in here tend to believe the Satoshi revelation story, that Wright = Satoshi.

Granted, the Wired/gizmodo article and research behind is somewhat better than that awful Newsweek "Look! Same last name!" story, but aside from that: whatever hard evidence Wired has (or has revealed so far) is rather flimsy as well. As far as I can tell, the major documents containing proof of identity either cannot be verified (cryptographically, say), or haven't been verified (by some indirect method).

All in all, I see very little strong evidence, and mainly just a man whose reaction to the Wired story is consistent with someone who could be Satoshi. But in that case, motivation matters, and it's rather funny how it only seems to cross a few peoples' minds that somebody might actually want to be believed to be Satoshi. The crypto nerds mainly seem to focus on the "He just wants his privacy!" angle, so somebody possibly trying to take credit for Satoshi's work doesn't seem to fit in.

Last observation: Wright's style doesn't pass the sniff test. From the soundbites and writing samples I've seen, there's a big difference between Wright's and Satoshi's style -- the latter's phrasing and argument development being rather modest sounding, never boasting -- which means I personally want to see a lot more hard evidence -- i.e. documents constituting proof of identity between the two, that also have been shown to be authentic and non-tampered with -- before seriously considering that Satoshi has been identified.

I concur; having this conversation with a friend today I rationalized my objections to this story with pretty much the same words. Believe me we will witness several similar "revelations" until BTC becomes what's destined to. Finally, I want to put a more "simple" thought in this.

Imagine you're Satoshi; you've invented an extraordinary digital currency that will revolutionize the whole planet. You've included -but not limited to- economics, forensics, cryptography, networking, mathematics, chaotic modelling, social engineering in order to make it happen, and insure it's gonna fulfill its destiny.

Undeniably, -if you're a single entity- and not a bunch of scientists, you're quite an extraordinary mind. What are the odds you didn't close all the links that lead to you? Didn't you foresee something like this coming?

http://gizmodo.com/reports-police-raid-home-of-possible-bitcoin-creator-c-1747025289

I rest my case.

My impression is that Wright (may he or may he not be SN) wanted to be found.

[ImI]

Finally above 400USD again with a lot of buying support left.
Oh and we found satoshi again, what interesting times.

and still going slow and steady...

no buying panic in sight.

[ChartBuddy]

Coin



Explanation

[Fatman3001]

Australia keeps spewing out these right wing loons who tries to change the world.

Screw the zionist conspiracy! Australians are trying to take over the world and create a NWO!!!

[StarenseN]

Australia keeps spewing out these right wing loons who tries to change the world.

Screw the zionist conspiracy! Australians are trying to take over the world and create a NWO!!!

The Australian School is a school of economic thought that is based on the concept of methodological individualism and comically oversized knives – that social phenomena result from the motivations and actions of Australians.

Australian != Austrian  (nice first post #fail)

[rebuilder]

Where's Satoshi?

[Fatman3001]

Australia keeps spewing out these right wing loons who tries to change the world.

Screw the zionist conspiracy! Australians are trying to take over the world and create a NWO!!!

The Australian School is a school of economic thought that is based on the concept of methodological individualism and comically oversized knives – that social phenomena result from the motivations and actions of Australians.

I knew it!!! Those beady eyed bastards!!!

They're just the same as the Canadians!!



I'm telling you!!! It ain't American at all!!!

[noobtrader]

Where's Satoshi?

OMG this is private key to wallet....

[nioc]

Coin



Explanation

that is escalated quickly.
whelp i would guess $500 soon.
bitcoin exchange in china is already $431!!!1!one!

What's up with Coin, it's lower than BearStamp which has been consistently lower than all the other exchanges until today? BearStamp was the biggest block to getting past $400. The price on it kept hitting $399.99 then falling back down.

Maybe it's because Coin's market is small that it's price is lower.

Coin used to be $1 higher than Stamp but in this recent run up for whatever reason they have been lagging.  I bought 3? days ago on Coin @393 while Stamp was 396/7.  This was after 2 failed attempts at 400 and I stated I had bought because the third  times a charm

[Fatman3001]

Where's Satoshi?

I can see Adam!

[billyjoeallen]

I'm surprised. It looks like this time, even some of the veterans in here tend to believe the Satoshi revelation story, that Wright = Satoshi.

Granted, the Wired/gizmodo article and research behind is somewhat better than that awful Newsweek "Look! Same last name!" story, but aside from that: whatever hard evidence Wired has (or has revealed so far) is rather flimsy as well. As far as I can tell, the major documents containing proof of identity either cannot be verified (cryptographically, say), or haven't been verified (by some indirect method).

All in all, I see very little strong evidence, and mainly just a man whose reaction to the Wired story is consistent with someone who could be Satoshi. But in that case, motivation matters, and it's rather funny how it only seems to cross a few peoples' minds that somebody might actually want to be believed to be Satoshi. The crypto nerds mainly seem to focus on the "He just wants his privacy!" angle, so somebody possibly trying to take credit for Satoshi's work doesn't seem to fit in.

Last observation: Wright's style doesn't pass the sniff test. From the soundbites and writing samples I've seen, there's a big difference between Wright's and Satoshi's style -- the latter's phrasing and argument development being rather modest sounding, never boasting -- which means I personally want to see a lot more hard evidence -- i.e. documents constituting proof of identity between the two, that also have been shown to be authentic and non-tampered with -- before seriously considering that Satoshi has been identified.

I agree for the same reasons outlined. Write has apparently written many white papers so it should be relatively easy to compare formatting, styles of writing, etc.  The personality difference makes this candidate questionable at the least.